#anti culture

[animentality]

All y'all bitches whining about people posting sex on AO3 sound like those pearl clutching marvel moms who think Guardians of the Galaxy 3 is too violent for children.

It's pg13.

That's a fucking TAG. Learn to fucking read, please.

And stop going to content that wasn't made for you and your fellow 2 year olds.

#guardians of the galaxy 3 #ao3 #anti culture #pro ship culture

[mintacle]

So, you've seen the words "anti" and "proshipper" thrown around in people's bios and "batc*st dni" on people's posts. Maybe you want to know what all the fuss is about, maybe you have a particular opinion about all this fuss. In any case, this informative post is for you.

Using Samantha Aburime's paper "the cult structure of the american anti", I'm going to explain the issue.

First of all what is an anti even? It's a term people use to self-identify within fandoms. As the name anti implies, they mainly identify with being against things.

Which leads us to our problem of the anti mentality.

Most antis are minors or under 24. People who left the anti community have explained their experiences in the following manners:

Maybe you have felt the pressure to join in anti behavior as well. If any of the following feelings are familiar to you, then you are experiencing anti indoctrination:

If the shame and guilt instilled in anti members isn't bad enough, there are more consequences for the targets of the antis. In the batman fandom these are blogs that may or may not describe themselves as proship, meaning they ship characters that are (adoptive) members of the wayne family (Bruce Wayne, Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Tim Drake and Damian Wayne) with one another.

Essentially: this is how anti action works:

Examples of dehumanization and harrasement which are very commonly practised among antis:

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And threats of violence:

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Beyond the aggresive nature of the anti mentality, the problem is that the people it targets are overwhelmingly vulnerable minorities.

And I have often seen antis justifying their harrasement by explaining that they are themselves queer or non-caucasian, which is an example of moral licencing and does not actually excuse targetting other minorities or people of the same minority as you.

So what do antis specifically do? The anti community of the batman fandom will often throw around accusations of incest ("batc*st") and pedophilia.

Let us examine those three concepts, disinformation, virtue signaling and legitimate abuse.

We can find disinformation in the prectise of denying reasonable arguments for tolerance of proshipping. An anti will not engage in any attempt to understand why people ship something they find morally apprehensible. They will label proshippers as degenarates, thereby misrepresenting who it is they are targeting. Furthermore they will misrespresent the amount of influence that proshippers yave on influencing people.

Virtue signaling describes the practise of labelling things as problematic without delivering reasonable arguments for doing so and instead using strong emotional language to explain their judgement:

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Virtue signaling also represents the practise of self-describing the anti as morally pure and the "enemy", the proshipper as morally degenerate.

Both disinformation and virtue signaling allow for legitimate abuse. Depersonifying and villifying the opponent gives the anti a feeling of being legitimized in their abuse.

For followers of my blog, I would like to raise awareness of this side of anti culture. Emotional and shame-inducing language can easily sway us. I plead my case for reasonable and distanced evaluation of what you see online. Condemning pedophilia and incest will seem perfectly natural on face value, which is why it is so hare to understand that often time what is labbelled as such is misrepresented, and really all the time the anti myth will equate preference of fiction to beliefs of real life morality (see first image)

To finish my informational post, I leave you with one last essential quote from Samantha Aburime's paper:

"The anti movement perpetuates archaic systems of judgement based on personal disgust and region-specific morality, punishing powerless people for their fannish interests and tainting their online communities. Their work does nothing to dismantle harmful systematic institutions; rather, it embraces them, even going so far as to actively harm and destroy members of their own community."

Read the full paper here. It's very interesting and a not too long read.

https://journal.transformativeworks.org/index.php/twc/article/view/2147/2829

#fandom meta #batcest #or batc*st if that makes you feel better I guess #education as a way of combatting polarism and extremism #essentially. no matter what your opinion is. if you find yourself harrassing people online... you are probably doing something wrong #anti #anti culture #antis #the problem with being anti is that you define yourself through opposition #proshipping #proship #i happen not to be proship. but don't let that make you think I endorse anti mentality or dnis #because I really just HAPPEN not to ship any batfam members #there is more. but the post is already very long and I have hit the ten image limit #ideally I would have inclided a part about how antis call out. expose and target specific blogs #rules for life: 1. live and let live 2. don't yuck someone else's yumm 3. always allow yourself to have your own opinion #dc #batman

[disc-and-miss]

“let’s make proshippers feel ashamed again.”

AGAIN?? Since when have we EVER been ashamed??

Proshippers are the astounding majority in fandom. Proshippers existed before the terms proship and anti became widely used. Proshippers have been here longer than most antis have been alive. Proshippers BUILT the very fandom spaces you cretins are crawling into, still in diapers.

antis need to stop coming into fandom spaces and trying to change the rules we all have peaceably played by for DECADES because they shit and scream and cry at the thought of having to do some actual fucking critical thinking. “let’s make proshippers ashamed again,” give me a fucking break.

antis should be treated like the misinformed children they are, to teach them that shit like suibaiting and cyberstalking and harassment have actual consequences. antis who tell others to kill themself over a fucking ship need to start being ostracized. ANTIS need to feel ashamed.

there’s one group behaving dangerously on the internet, and while we have a few bad apples, by and large it is NOT us proshippers.

#anti ship #anti anti ship #antiship #antis #anti culture #proship #proshippers #antishippers #proship culture #discourse

[princessgemma12]

On Disabled Antis

It confuses me so fucking much how so many disabled antis there are.

It's like. You support people with NPD? Oh, you're chill with personality disorders? People with violent intrusive thoughts? You're supportive of trauma survivors? Oh cool, me too!

Oh you... you're an anti and think they should keep those things lock up inside they're head instead of processing that shit? Great. Greatgreatgreatgreat.

Fuck you dude

#Rant #tw ableism #Yeah I'm calling it fucking ableism #I can't access a therapist so how the fuck else am I supposed to work out my shit? #News flash but keeping the terrifying image of god-knows-what my brain decided to give to myself has never helped #So fuck you #Proship #anti culture #anti censorship

[brsb4hls]

Someone's still pissed at the CW after 2 years and made a whole ass parody account just to whine, which is, well boring.

It also has this gem though

I cannot grasp how people still think this is an own of any kind? I have yet to find a wincest shipper who doesn't like Monster at the end of the book.

I mean, imagine creating a whole meta verse inside your horror dude bro show for the sole purpose of informing your audience that there's gay incest fan fiction of your main characters.

There has never been a bigger shout out to shippers in the history of television.

#wincest #anti culture #twitter #parody #if you ship wincest and hate the ep please let me know for statistics #also the 'stop it'? #so cute #no! #<3

[nando161mando]

Western culture is designed to pacify us

#Western culture is designed to pacify us #western culture #culture #culture is not your friend #facts #fact #fyi #psa #ausgov #politas #auspol #tasgov #taspol #australia #fuck neoliberals #neoliberal capitalism #anthony albanese #albanese government #class war #oppression #repression #capitalism #fascism #eat the rich #eat the fucking rich #anti culture #oppressor #free all oppressed peoples #pedagogy of the oppressed #oppressive

[fuckyeahfightlock]

Place yr bets, how long before the terminally-online Puritans, spurred by the return of Tennant to Doctor Who, go back to the beginning of the modern reboot and begin "calling out" and "shaming" the "seriously problematic" "age gap relationship" between the 900-year-old Doctor and 19-year-old Rose? Extra spicy bonus points if the truly wingnut among them call this "sexualizing a child."

#Doctor Who #I just had a horrible premonition #anti culture #21st century Puritanism

[thecozmoking]

Also if you are seriously going to threaten violence on others or tell them to kill themselves over a ship, you really need to step away from the internet and reevaluate your life and world view.

There are people dying, climate change is nigh irreversible at this point, inflation is through the roof, people are in danger of freezing to death this winter because of energy costs, and we’re constantly on the verge of living in a even more brazen police state.

People writing about two Internet personalities being in a fictional relationship should be the least of your worries, my friend.

#Shyan #Anti-Shyan #anti culture #Antis

[saltwife]

jesus christ. I just heard that Ao3 volunteers are being harassed with threatening e-mails containing LITERAL CHILD PORN, basically because they refuse to take down ‘problematic’ fics. 

this is some hardcore anti doublethink bullshit and it’s revolting. I’m so angry I don’t even know what else to say.

#ao3 #anti culture #fandom assholes

[clownfessionsofficial]

Fantis really feel entitled to all content but when you point out theyre interacting with a proshipper's fandom content who explicitly asks for no anti interaction, suddenly they're "okay with the content existing" but "dont support proshipping". What a bunch of hate the sin not the sinner bullshit.

#fanti culture #anti culture #safe for proshippers #proship safe #purity culture #anti purity culture

[zykamiliah]

Why modern America creates fragile children | Jonathan Haidt

this video i think this it articulates very succinctly why gen z's upbringing and social environment relates to purity culture as a phenomenon. it's all connected

here are two of my favorite quotes:

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They're just not used to being independent. When they get to college, they need more help. They're asking adults for more help. Protect me from this. Punish him for saying that. Protect me from that book.

Students are thinking in terms of safety and danger. Students say, by their own admission, they are more fragile. They use a language of fragility, weakness, trauma, triggering. They see triggers all over the world.

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“Always trust your feelings”: It may sound wise, it may sound romantic.

But wise people around the world have noticed that we don't react to the world as it actually is, we react to the constructions, the perceptions.

Epictetus said, "It is not things themselves that disturb us but our interpretations of things."

All of us have had experiences with these. One thing I like to think about is Homer Simpson saying: “Shut up, brain or I'll stab you with a Q-tip!”

Our brains do this. Our brains go on and on, and we're like, "Stop it, stop it, stop it!"

What we've begun seeing on campus is that students are encouraged to follow their feelings. If they feel offended by something, then they have been attacked. They're supposed to not question those feelings.

But part of wisdom is the ability to say, "Now, wait a second. Are there other ways to look at this?" These are crucial skills for critical thinking. These are crucial skills for mental health.

And we need to be teaching young people at all stages to question their first interpretations, look for evidence, and improve the way they interpret the world.

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(all quotes taken from the youtube subs)

#purity culture #tumblr won't let me post the video as a preview #so click the link #this feels pertinent bc of the latest svsss drama #but really it applies to every fandom #fandom discourse #anti culture #discourse

[animentality]

Puriteens will be like I love violent horror movies where people get cut up and eaten by cannibals- but you! Freak who ships Bakugo and Midoriya!!! You're supporting abuse.

Like sweetie.

Kiddo.

Sport.

You support mass murder. Reflect.

#writing #writers on tumblr #ao3 #horror #anti #proship #anti culture

[disc-and-miss]

antis rlly will be like “we’re the normal and well-adjusted ones!” and then tell people they hope they get raped and/or killed in horrifying ways over cartoon discourse.

like… say what you will about my taste in media, but at least i have hobbies & a life outside of the internet and know that telling csa survivors they deserved it is… bad.

i dont even know how to explain to someone that thinking violent sexual thoughts about real people (especially survivors) is not normal and is, in fact, more dangerous than fiction.

#discourse #antis #antiship #proship #anti culture #anti ship #antishipper #proship culture #proshipper #proshit #proshitter

[catgirl-catboy]

Do they not make kids read dark shit for a grade like they used to?

(Old man voice!)  When I was 10 I had to read about suicide and infanticide with a side of corrupt government.  And we enjoyed it because that means we weren’t memorizing vocabulary words.

#antishippers #anti culture #school system

[mrslittletall]

I hear people complaining so much when child characters are aged up for fanfic and stuff, but I never hear complains about characters being aged down. Because... when I have a blorbo, I get interested in their childhood. And then I normally make up their parents and the circumstances of their birth and how they grew up and how that changed them as a person. So you are all up in arms about characters growing up but nobody bats an eye when we take an adult character and put childhood headcanons on them. Oh and don't come me with "They are only aged up for smut reasons!" The moment a character reaches adulthood there is NO reason for you anymore to view them as a fucking MINOR!

#little talks about stuff #anti culture #purity culture

[heartshapedcreaturefromcriptoon]

Oh yeah so you're a fanti who hates Viv now, you say? Couldn't tell by all the ugly, off model proportions you gave her goddamn fucking characters...

Had to draw Mimzy Slim Thick instead of short and fat.

Couldn't just let Nifty be a lil' bug on the ground because she's "minor coded" I guess...

Had to put your bullshit, no more than three years old, "nostalgia" fix its into the main tags instead of just trashing them and leaving it alone.

Fuck you.

#Hazbin Hotel #hazbin hypocritical #Mimzy #Nifty #fanti . #fantis #hazbin hotel nifty #hazbin hotel mimzy #nifty hazbin hotel #mimzy hazbin hotel #undescribed #anti culture #anti anti #fanti culture