#booksansa

[queenrhaenysmartell]

⤷ Innocence

“Tell me, child, why would you have sent Ser Loras?”Sansa had no choice but to explain about heroes and monsters. The king’s councillor smiled. “Well, those are not the reasons I’d have given, but…” He had touched her cheek, his thumb lightly tracing the line of a cheekbone. “Life is not a song, sweetling. You may learn that one day to your sorrow.”

#character: sansa stark #character: petyr baelish #mine: edits #books: asoiaf #sansastarkedit #asoiafedit #sansamonth2022 #sansasource #asoiafwomensource #booksansa #valyrianscrolls #gotasoiafsource

[istumpysk]

I'm still waiting for that theory you talked about related to showDany had bookSansa romance storyline with Jon. I'm still so intrigued by that I need to know😭🙏🫶❤️

I started a reread to avoid writing metas on my to-do list. Then, I started the iceberg to avoid writing summaries for the reread.

I'm sure you can see the problem you're facing.

#stumpy ask #anon #one day

[sweetestpopcorn]

Hey popcorn, do you like Sansa? Thoughts on her? What would you like to tell the Jonsa stans.

I have heard so much from Dany antis, that Dany is unsuited for Jon, her temper, her actions. Now I'm a great Dany fan, don't care at all about Jon and his arc, and not a fan of Jonerys. How is their pairing bad Incestuous but Jonsa a good Incestuous pairing - something Ned stark would have approved of.

Hi there 🤗

Well those are a lot of questions XD

I do like bookSansa, not showSansa (not a fan of Sophie or how Sansa was written in the show, sorry), but bookSansa I do. In a way I think she is a good representation of how self centred young people are and how they will hurt others significantly without that being their intention. I like flawed characters like her as I think they feel very real. And back in the days of seasons 1 and 2 most people I knew couldn’t stand her. I had a friend who called her Sonsa instead of Sansa (sonsa is Portuguese for a person who is kind of fake and posing). And my general impression was that people were too hard on her. Yes we have other young characters, sometimes younger, that are not immature like Arya and Dany, but to me the surprise isn’t someone Sansa’s age acting like she did, it’s someone of Arya and Dany’s ages acting so mature and having such a deep understanding of the world and such a high emotional intelligence.

At the same time, I also feel for the tragedy of her story. She had a highly privileged and sheltered life that did not prepare her for what the world would throw her way, and the mistakes she made all came with a very high disproportional cost. I feel this is true of many of us out there. Our parents try to protect us, but in protecting us too much they do not prepare us for life, and this makes growing up much more painful. 

Besides this I also like that her story mostly focuses on court drama #dramaalert which as y'all know I LIVE FOR THE DRAMA; and many of the characters around her are very VERY interesting like Little Finger and Myranda Royce which is a queen - if only Rhea Royce was like her, Daemon's marriage wouldn't have been such a sh:t show XD change my mind!

So all in all, I am interested in her story and I am here to see her trying to seduce Harry the Heir like #majordramaalert and what exactly Little Finger will do next.

Do I think she will ever be queen or queen of the North?

But I still want to see how it goes for her yes 😂

As for Jonsas…

First, I see no problem with people having crackships. Like ship whomever you want I don’t care 🛳⛴🚢 as long as you don’t come to me and make or want to force me to also like it. I don’t care what you like. I might be puzzled at a few choices but it’s a free country so what I think of other people’s ships is my issue not theirs. Personally in the asoiaf series, I don’t think I have any non canon ships currently (though in the past I did like the Theon/Sansa pairing in a like weird AU - don’t you dare judge me). And this was WAY before season 5 btw so not show induced. In other series I do like some crackships, like in Harry Potter I love the Hermione/Draco crackship especially in movie canon and I blame the incredible chemistry Tom and Emma had because WoW the possibilities. Plus a slytherin and a griffindor together makes all the sense in the world but ok JK 🙄 have it your way 😂

Second, around the time of seasons 1 and 2 when I wanted some fanfiction the majority of pairings I saw were either Dany/Jorah (wtf was wrong with the world 🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮 oh wait this is the same world who ships Rhaenyra with Criscel… yeah makes sense) or Dany/Jon. I also saw a lot of Arya/fAegon. Like vast vast majority.

I don’t remember ever seeing a Jon/Sansa fic and in fact, I remember I was not only shocked at more recently finding out how many people shipped them (good for you if you like them and can see it) but how they actually (trying not to laugh here and failing) tried to justify it with the books?!

Hello?! Excuse me?! Did we read the same sh:t?!!!!

How?! Just… just how?!

Like back to me for a moment, I love Draco/Hermione fics (movie based ok? In the books he was pure trash, Tom made Draco so much more charming and funny), but I am not going to try and justify this with book or movie material (past the actors looking good together). I accept this only exists in an AU. The fact that Jonsas try to justify it it’s just… and the abuse they inflict on ACTUAL people because of a crackship is nothing short of disgusting.

What I would say to them you ask?

Nothing. I don’t know them. I don’t want to know them. They do them and I do me.

What I would say to everyone, however, is, you don’t have a right to go and pester others. You just don’t. Nor to insult someone because you don’t agree with them. Nor to chase them. Stay in your lanes. Like is it so hard so see something you don’t like and just unfollow or block the person? What gives you the right to insult someone to their faces and stalk them to no end?

Fandom is something for us to enjoy. We should focus on what we love not what we hate. We should try to find people who share our views or that we can have healthy debates with. And it is absolutely not ok to bully others.

I think when something is doing us more harm than good it’s when we have to stop. And this is what I advise many Dany antis who spent more time obsessing over her than their faves. But this is my view. I would never go into another person’s blog to tell them this and I appreciate that if I bother any of you, you make good use of the block/unfollow button. Friendly reminder that I do not answer haters or trolls <3 I laugh at them and delete. I come here to have fun not fights, and if I want a fight, I have one face to face. I put my money where my face is and I am not a keyboard warrior.

Now to end this on the positive note of wincest ❤, again, I struggle to understand how anyone who is bothered by incest - even if it’s “only” cousin-cousin, uncle-niece, aunt-nephew - and big age differences and underaged marriages can appreciate the asoiaf series, I just do. Like dude, go watch/read something else, but don’t get outraged at things the author clearly enjoys writing about and does NOT portrait in a negative light. 

Also friendly reminder to any anti-targ fan who is a fan of other houses and that is very bothered by incest that house Stark had two uncle-niece marriages. You’re welcome besties <3

Also, also, Anon let me hug you because I am a major Dany fan that - at the risk of being cancelled - admits they don’t care about Jon all that much. I mean, it’s the Dany show I am here for all the way!

All the best to you Anon! And sorry that I took so long to answer 🤗

#we stan a dany stan anon #anon don't try to understand crazies #I swear to god this fandom is the gift that keeps on giving #the jokes make themselves #not tagging this #popcorn answers

[sansansource]

The Lady of the Gift by the_moonmoth

The stable was gloomy and warm with the horses’ bodies. She had closed the door when she entered and put the bar across it, and now she stood before him, barely an arm’s breadth away, and he stared at her feet and waited to see what she had come for.  Yet she did not speak, simply stood in silence, and Sandor could feel the weight of her eyes on him. Further down the stable, the she-wolf’s piebald courser whickered and Stranger snapped at him from his stall. The air was still and scented with musty horsehair and sweet-smelling hay. She had a small square of parchment in her hand, he saw. The hem of her gown was wet, as though she had been walking in the snow. And still she did not speak. He struggled briefly with himself before giving in to desire. Sandor raised his eyes and looked at her. And looked, and looked. Little bird.

#sansan #asoiafedit #valyrianscrolls #gotedit #sansa stark #sansastarkedit #sandor clegane #sansa x sandor #sansanedit #booksansa #book sansa #*gif #fanfiction #*

[weirwoodking]

Modern ASOIAF Moodboard: Sansa

#these are more fun to make than i was expecting #asoiaf #a song of ice and fire #valyrianscrolls #sansa stark #sansa #sansa asoiaf #asoiaf sansa #modern asoiaf #asoiaf modern au #modern sansa #modern!sansa #book sansa #book sansa stark #book!sansa #booksansa #moodboard #asoiaf moodboard #sansa moodboard #asoiaf modern moodboard

[ladytp]

@thefeatherofhope replied to your post “I find myself in a curious ‘in-between’ space in my fandom life in...”

So we could tag posts as book!sansa, book!sandor and book!sansan in reblogs and new content. Sounds good?

@nobodysuspectsthebutterfly

replied to your post

“I find myself in a curious ‘in-between’ space in my fandom life in...”

@thefeatherofhope​ I'm not sure that exclamation points work in tumblr tags/search. They might, I haven't checked, but special characters often act very weirdly, especially in themes. I'd test first to be sure, and if it doesn't work you might prefer using something like booksandor booksansan booksansa, or asoiafsandor etc

I tagged one of my replies with #book!sansan and when I tried to search for it, it indeed didn't work. 

But bookSansan, bookSansa and bookSandor might? I tag this with them and let’s see... 

EDIT: It did, searching by tag (https://www.tumblr.com/tagged/booksansan)

#nobodysuspectsthebutterfly #thefeatherofhope #bookSansan #bookSandor #bookSansa

[library-seraph]

Unpopular opinion: I don't find Jon Snow that interesting as a character in either the books or the show

Book jon's not one of my faves, but I like him

Show Jon is just "who?"

#booksansa #asks #replies #askbox meme

[stardyng]

In the first season, I didn’t think much of Sansa. However through out the second to fourth season, I realized how capable she is. She is incredibly resilient, going through one horror after another and is still capable of empathy and kindness. She is incredibly courageous, helping others (ex: Dontos/Margaery) even with the risk it entailed. She is forgiving, calming the Women at the Blackwater despite them laughing at her abuse. She is incredibly smart, knowing how to navigate the court like an expert, and hiding herself behind this fake love for Joffrey. She is an incredible manipulator, which showcased itself mostly at the Eyrie, but even in earlier seasons, she made small lies that went a long way for her. She is also very adaptable. She’s capable of changing the way she approaches things every time the political situation changes. Of course I could list things from later seasons but I personally think that her strongest seasons were from 2-4 because they taught me that there is real concrete strength in traditional femininity that is of the same value as the strength in traditional masculinity. That her crying, complaining or being put into a hostage situation doesn’t make her weak. It makes her human. I also think that vulnerability is another aspect of being strong and her being honest about her feelings and her fears to herself is proof of her strength. The fact that she was able to navigate life despite all these horrors is what made her BADASS. Sansa later on is cool and all but she’s just not the Sansa I fell in love with, rather more of what we stereotypically and lazily depict as being a “strong female character.” (colder, pessimist, killer). She is still my favorite character in the show though, so no disrespect there but what I love about her is that she is FEMININE and STRONG and that she is the perfect example of another way that we, as humans can be badass. I love how she still believes that even if the world isn’t good to her right now, that it can be in the future. I love how she spreads love, compassion, forgiveness and kindness around even to people who were horrible to her. I love how even the sight of her abuser dying was unsettling to her. I love how when she feels things, she feels them intensely. I love she would wear these soft lovely dresses. I love her how she loved to sing, dance, dress, play instruments, listen to romantic stories and write poetry. I’m so excited for book Sansa to continue being strong and badass, the way she always has been and the way she should have continued to be in the show. 

#i feel like some people won't agree with me #but i love my softsansa #i love my blushing maid #who trusts easily #who loves passionately #i love late show sansa too #but like #still #why do the showriters think that you can't be both feminine and strong #sansa #sansa stark #shosansa #booksansa #game of thrones #asoiaf #a song of ice and fire #got #anti d&d #a bit a repeat at the beginning but it was going somewhere #i still need to write a few book metas lmao #anti sansan im coming for you #feminine #strong female character #feminine strenght #feminism

[fedonciadale]

As a Sansa fan who has read the books and watched the show, do you feel the show portrayed her accurately?

Hi there!

No, I don’t think so. I think that it was a great mistake that they skipped the Vale arc and let Sansa suffer through the Ramsay plot to make her a ‘hardened woman’. I really hate D&D’s attitude that a ‘woman needs to suffer to become strong’. Yikes.

You can still see some of the traits of BookSansa in ShowSansa. She is very competent in ruling Winterfell and she has grown to become a  political player who cares for her people. That will happen in the books as well, I think. I just regret that they cut short on Sansa’s kindness, amenability and warmth.

I still liked ShowSansa and since I love her character I always looked for reasonable explanations for what she did. But in all honesty, the show did a lot to let her look like the ICE QUEEN, whose motives are hard to see. Point in question is Sansa asking the Knights of the Vale for help and not telling Jon. We never got an explanation for that and it was used to make her suspicious for the WInterhell plot of season 7. I hated that. That they would led the audience to believe that Sansa would betray her family just to create tension, and then they didn’t bother tying up the lose ends in a satisfying way.

So, if people who don’t like Sansa come to different conclusions than I do (for example in regard to the Knights of the Vale) there is barely any evidence you can use. Because it’s all ambiguous. If you look at the show, it is completely feasible that Sansa did it all for herself. If you do not give her the benefit of the doubt, she can come over as a conniving manipulative bitch.

As a Sansa lover you certainly don’t need to see her that way, but there is also little evidence to the contrary and I hate it.

They should just have stuck to the Starks as heroes. Everyone would have rooted for them. If they had just portrayed Sansa in a less ambiguous way, then maybe, maybe we wouldn’t have all these Sansabuts in our inboxes.

But then I don’t really understand how anyone can hate Sansa, so I’m at a loss anyway when it comes to Sansabuts.

Thanks for the ask!

#anon ask #Sansa Stark #Sansa Stark defence squad #BookSansa vs ShowSansa #I still like her in the show #But BookSansa is better

[chillyravenart]

ShowSansa is officially cancelled. I've literally rooted for her for seven seasons, given her the benefit of the doubt up until 8x02 but that's it, I'm done. Little bird no more, but Littlefinger you definitely are. What terrible character development, and what a terrible person they've made her this season. I'm out.

#sansa stark #its over sweetie #i'm done with her #show sansa sucks #got season 8 #i'll go back to booksansa and make my peace with her #seriously fuck this shit #saying my two pence worth and leaving

[esther-dot]

jonsas: in this meta I’m going to explain why I think jon and Sansa not only have similariar dreams of children, marriage, romance, that even complete each other etc but how an union between the two of them can be the solution to the north/winterfell issues

people of this fandom who believe they sound smart and woke because they stan all asoiaf girls (and by all I mean arya, dany and booksansa) and want them to be besties and ship jon with irrelevant characters: omg why does it matter so much who jon will bang? this people are crazy! care about the plot!!!

So, they’re purposefully obtuse in order to pretend we’re vapid, and they ignore what we’re saying to criticize us for doing the thing they’re doing.

And, because that’s not entertaining enough, they bless us with the take that the man who criticized his beloved LOTR for not having sex scenes isn’t highly invested in sexual/romantic relationships.

It’s like they think we didn’t read the books and know the political impact interpersonal relationships had pre-canon and will certainly have in canon. As if we didn’t read Jon having a crisis about whether or not to marry Val and take Winterfell which was an intensely personal decision that impacted plot. As if Robb didn’t marry Jeyne, as if Tyrion didn’t agree to marry Sansa, as if Dany hadn’t struggled with her own choice to marry again...the political is personal because these characters are securing alliances (or refusing to) with their bodies, with sex, with the children they have, and the fandom wants me to pretend this isn’t a thing?

#ask dot #this fandom 🤦🏻‍♀️

[butterflies-dragons]

Hello! Sorry to bother you, but all those antis that say that Sansa is not kind or gentle really make me livid. Have you written anything about Sansa’s moments of kindness (there are so many!)? Or do you know any other blog that has? I hope finding metas about this is not an inconvenience for you!

Here two meta links:

https://asoiafuniversity.tumblr.com/post/131018378020/sansa-kindness

https://falconstarfall.tumblr.com/post/624617122293841920/the-big-list-of-booksansa-just-generally-being-a

#sansa stark #anon asks

[janiedean]

i remember your villain origin story re: robb and i also remember all the associated metas about sansa painting her as this massively intelligent lady when she's 11 saying that she didn't say the truth about joff during the whole wolf incident is because she was aware of the political implications and how joff would behave and she has this whole betrothed role to fulfil and she's actually protecting arya by lying and ned is the one to blame AND arya is also to blame because she was needling the future prince and she is too stupid to realize that is dangerous etc. BUT sansa is also an 11 yr old so she made a mistake by going to cersei in book 1 and telling her about ned's plans like ???? pick a side??? lol.

i know sansa got a lot of hate for the wolf + cersei thingy but really it's not that deep. she had a huge crush on joff+ had a huge dream of being this storybook princess + got scared about the whole wolf incident and didnt wanna be hated by joff and cersei whom she adored + idealized, wasn't on the best of terms with arya. and hence she did a dumb 11 yr old mistake. which we also view primarily from arya's pov who really didn't do anything wrong in that one incident so ofcourse readers judge sansa for it. it's not that deep. but you cant go both ways and claim she is some mastermind at 11 while arya is dumb and ned irresponsible for letting arya play around dangerously while at the same time argue that sansa was 11 and made a mistake at the end. that's deliberately misreading EVERY OTHER character to prop up your fave - robb, arya, ned, theon, jon. (not to mention sansa also continuously blames arya and nymeria for the incident in the later book iirc but she has a thing about misremembering stressful periods so).

this has honestly been going on for a looong while. i used to stan sansa and it's true that she got a lot of misogynistic hate in the earlier seasons but the way some stans *cough*yourvillainoriginlady*cough* would behave towards every other character was just ugh. also the latter crop of j*onsa shippers from s6 onwards had a tendency to play down arya and jon's bond too. (the show can be blamed for that partially given that we didn't get jeyne!arya and jon forsaking his vows to rescue arya + giving sansa the "lone wolf dies but the pack survives" line which is literally arya's theme line but yeah). and i'm not even getting into reducing brienne and arya to qween sansa's swords like they're only there to serve sansa lmfao and shipping her with every character that's supposed to be good looking even if it makes 0 sense (jaime, jon, gendry) while ignoring canonical love interests (sandor and tyrion) as if the same problems of age + power + incest don't exist in their ships lol.

good thing I'm not the only one who remembers her and her absurd takes on just about everything not counting that one time she wrote that letter to EW because sansa showed cleavage in her cover and then called ramsay psychotic in it, had to emend because that's not how it works and then apologized for having been offensive but sure af she didn't apologize to me when she called me psychotic for telling her that her robb opinions were literally made up but GREAT TIMES X°DDD and I mean there was the amazing 'robb obv doesn't care about his sister or he'd have known she was being manipulated when he got her letter' and like I'm the least person to blame sansa for falling for it bc she was eleven and cersei is cersei and ofc she had no idea what she was doing but... how was robb supposed to know that X°DDDDDDD also no one is a political genius at 11 and it's all right like that but go and tell her that...

also agreed re the wolf incident but honestly like sansa getting hate for it or for anything she did during agot is stupid bc you don't hate an eleven year old for being an eleven year old we all were like that at some point??? but at the same time bashing on arya for that is like... bruh what the fucking fuck did she ever do to you???

that's deliberately misreading EVERY OTHER character to prop up your fave - robb, arya, ned, theon, jon.

I mean again robb was painfully obvious but the thing is that like... usually putting down other chars to prop up your fave means you like your fave for the wrong reasons since it means you never talk about the actual good things abt your fave (I mean these people live assuming that sansa's kindness isn't what actually propels her/is making sure she survives/is what will eventually be what gives her the upper hand in the end but no I have to read it was ic that she gave ramsay to the dogs in the show ffff) and you don't have to prop down everyone else or their bonds with other chars to like.. make your point? anyway sansa used to be in my asoiaf top ten now she's more top fifteen bc the show soured me but like I love booksansa and I 100% stan her, I was done with the show version by the end of S6 so I'm not even going there and the thing about showtruthing but then saying the books will be like that... needs to stop. also I'mma not going to touch the arya and brienne can only be in her qg arguments to make sense of their being gnc/into swords because honestly I have no force of will nor strength to get into why that discussion is not as progressive as ppl think it is but I think for me that was the straw breaking the camel's back if I wasn't already fed up with the casual ableism at sandor and tyrion and whatever else *raises hands*

#1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #anonymous #ask post #anti show sansa #anti-jonsa #my villain origin story #let's bring the tag back shall we #incest cw #meh #let's not even go about jaimesansa #my hatred for jaimesansa has been there since 2011 #and hahahhahahahaha god #i can't rant abt how i hate how it got popular #bc honestly dnw to kick the hornet's nest #but i was there gandalf and still my top 3 most hated ships in this fandom forever #also sandor and tyrion are too old for sansa but jaime or willas are np #when both j and w are older than sandortyrion #god #honestly i wanted to write the ot3 with both sandor and tyrion out of spite a while ago #but never managed #ah well #janie rants

[lillian-81]

Do you mind if I ask you to clarfy: when you say you don't like Sansa, do you mean that you hate asoiaf Sansa, GOT Sansa, the Sansa that her stans head canon, or all of the above? This isn't to start any fandom wank, btw. I don't believe in trying to convince people to like characters they dislike and I'm all about ship and let ship.

I don’t like Got Sansa at all and I don’t like the image of her that some of her stans represent either. You know the representations I’m talking about, the ones repurposing other characters strengths or scenes to make her seem like she has all these extra character traits or that all the other characters are thinking about her all the time.

I wouldn’t say I have anything against BookSansa herself, most of the time she comes off slightly naive and well intentioned (while still trying to survive) from my perspective. It’s just the overblown Stan version and GOT Sansa that make me grind my teeth.

Thank you for asking! Ship and let ship indeed!

#what is this an ask? for moi? #thank you so much for asking #Sansa clarification #thanks for being so polite! #asks

[daenerys-targaryen-moved]

I am fascinated by bookSansa, but I don’t believe she has to have a happy ending. Even prior to trauma, she has a weird, dissociated vibe. Her caring is usually about preserving herself and outward appearances. I am okay with this all biting her in the ass. I disagree with many that she necessarily has to have a positive growth arc. GRRM is most likely saving full arcs for the Big Five. In real life, some people don’t grow or change. They grow into their habits, good or bad.

strongly agree | agree | neutral | disagree | strongly disagree

Yeah, she doesn’t have to have a happy ending (I mean all of them could end up having a bad ending like got lmao) but I think it will happen regardless. I slightly agree and slightly disagree about her only caring about herself and self preservation, I mean yeah she has moments of that but there are other moments like where she stopped joffrey from killing the fool and used her wits to convince him into not killing him (even though the fool ended up dying anyways) so 

Send me unpopular opinions!

#Anonymous

[ladystarks]

Actually, I hope bookSansa is going to turn into the master manipulator showSansa was accused of being! Getting rid of all the people who have belittled her and taken away her agency Rohanne Webber style (Dunk and Egg, if you haven’t read those)! Why should Sansa be the only character who isn’t allowed to be ruthless in getting rid of her enemies?

It’s what we deserve!

#ask #give me ruthless sansa! political sansa! i want it #sansa stark