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#c!tommy lore finale
nefkyo · 1 year
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I was talking about c!Dream's death on Twitter and I've come to the conclusion that his Limbo is Spectator Mode itself.
What does Spectator Mode do in Minecraft?
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Now imagine this but with on the DSMP.
c!Dream is stuck in an incorporeal, invisible form with no inventory and is just left to watch the world go round without him. He walks through walls and people, he doesn't even experience gravity, so imagine how many times he fell through the floor or freaked out realizing he wasn't touching it. Imagine a constant feeling of vertigo that should make your heart beat out of your chest, except you can't feel your heartbeat.
He doesn't feel warmth or cold, light and shadow look the same. He chases c!Tommy and c!Tubbo and outruns them, realizing he can't even control his speed. He rushes to c!Punz's house, who can't even feel a change in the air. He can't hear them, and they can't hear him.
He was only dead for a few minutes (making him the record holder for least time in Limbo), but I wouldn't be surprised if he acted like it was nothing and then crumbled with relief the moment nobody's looking. or maybe once he was alone with c!Punz for a second. Because c!drunz is real. I don't wanna hear another "but c!George was on the sign in the prison", I don't think it was for friendly reasons.
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So I just watch part 3 of c!Tommy’s lore finale and here are some thoughts:
-The way he said “I can stand that.” after getting set on fire was so badass and I will never be normal about it. Like he didn’t even flinch. Just. Wow.
-The parallels between this and the January 20th stream. Oh my god. Both have one member of clingyduo ready to sacrifice himself while the other tries to find a better way, but now the roles are reversed. It’s coming full circle!!!
-Tommy destroying the discs to save Tubbo despite everything and being protective of Tubbo even when they’re both in equal danger and being willing to sacrifice his life so Tubbo doesn’t have to. FAVORITE CHARACTER FOR A GODDAMN REASON.
-I REALLY REALLY HOPE TOMMY DOESN’T DIE TOMORROW.
-Clingyduo>>>>>
-I love the detail that they’d be using Tubbo’s nukes to kill Dre@m and Punz. A collaboration between best friends being the thing to take them down is such a perfect rejection and defiance of Dre@m’s fucked up worldview.
-I almost feel bad for Punz in a way. Spending eternity with someone willing to let you suffer through literal hell is something I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. Almost.
-*cries*
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bleue-flora · 22 days
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What's often interesting to me, is Dream spells it out in the finale and people often still don't get it, so I thought it'd be interesting to see what he was actually referencing here. To see where it all started.
[24:27] Tommy: “That first war, me and Tubbo versus you–how it should have ended–why’d you take it?” Dream: “Tommy, you ambushed me and killed me. You stole all my shit! You tried ambushing me in a little cave–you don’t remember that? I feel like you just–your memory is just–gone.”
So here is the ambush Dream is talking about, where Sapnap and Tommy basically decide to just kill Dream and then kept all of his shit. [Death 1]
He gets killed again when he tries to take back his stuff. [Death 2]
Tommy kills him for fun right after he respawns with nothing. [Death 3]
Then after Dream gets his stuff back (via our boy Punz) and he takes the discs to get Tommy to stop, he gives Tommy back his items. But unsatisfied, Tommy goes after Dream, gets one of his discs back and hides it in the little cave. Dream tries to find it, while Sapnap and Tommy try to stop him. They are unsuccessful until, Tubbo brings them axes and they sneak up and corner Dream in the little cave, ambushing and killing him. Once again, taking all of his shit, (including, yes, the other disc.) [Death 4]
[27:58] Tommy: “Think about that, we could’ve been friends but no because you have to figure out the reason you have to get–”  Dream: “Yeah we could’ve but you–you ruined the chance of that long ago. It was you.” Tommy: “I ruined it?” Dream: “You ruined it!”
And I don’t think it’s unfair for Dream to say that in the finale, because for Dream it’s this stream early on, these moments that started it all. It’s these instances of of Dream getting murdered and robbed and made fun of over and over. Him, trying to not just make peace for everyone, but also reclaim respect and peace for himself. It’s Tommy chasing after Dream when he has nothing to kill him and rub it in his face. It’s Dream, even after all of that, giving back their items. It’s these instances of violence taken too far to the point they clearly pissed Dream off and didn’t care or follow his very simple request of just giving an apology and his belongings back that shape my distaste for Tommy and sympathy for Dream. It’s these moments that I feel like are gone from Tommy’s and our memory that highlight a different story.
[28:34] Dream: “Yeah, we could have been friends if you weren’t a little shit.”
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hellothereimaloser · 1 year
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new era i guess
Aint gonna lie idk what will happen but i'm excited as hell
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eli-elien · 1 year
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"As long as I can’t be the next Schlatt, you can’t be the next Wilbur."
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don't forget to reblog <3 <3
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twogchamp · 1 year
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okay but tubbo doing all this serious, heartbreaking lore, wearing a shirt that says “i have got crabon monoxide poisoning” is top tier comedy
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neboulosa · 1 year
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pov: you died
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So a few of my irls were talking about how c!dream never targetted c!tommy and or had a dependency issue and I just wanna correct that.
c!Dream at the start of the series (since now the start is considered canon) constantly went after the discs even when c!Tommy told him he wanted to have a truce and that they were allies even wanting to play them together with c!Dream. c!Dream agreed to those terms but then attacked him 5 minutes later anyway.
Not forgetting the first disc fight where c!Dream targetted c!Tommy the whole time and only gave c!Sapnap and c!Ponk and c!Alyssa a slap on the wrist.
c!Dream spent a good portion of a Tommy stream donating him msgs to play the discs.
A couple of early streams of c!Dream trying to get c!Tubbo o someone else against c!Tommy.
Not really targetting but he said "Tommy is under my protection" which is that dependency thing idk it counts.
c!Dream built a tunnel to c!Tommys base.
c!Dream during L'manberg arc seemed more against c!Tommy than c!Wilbur and the others more often than not.
c!Dream focused on getting c!Tommys friends against him, such as most notably c!Tubbo and c!Wilbur in pogtopia arc.
c!Dream betrays c!Tommy in pogtopia arc after initially helping c!Tommy out. He tells c!Tommy this is due to 'business' he also tells him, 'that he put something better over friendship' (aka the revival book he got from c!Schlatt) (either way, he still betrayed him.)
He tells c!Tommy at the end of l'manberg blowing up that 'everythings just getting started', and makes it out as if c!Tommy was in the wong.
A few weeks before exile. c!Dream and c!Puffy went around destroying everything including c!Skeppys home and then framing it on c!Tommy with signs. c!Dream in particular is excited for people to log on and for them to get mad at c!Tommy.
The above was confirmed canon when during Exile trial, c!Dream says that c!Tommy had blown up c!Skeppys house (or he infers it), showing the damage that he himself did.
In Exile trial, I'm not gonna lie c!Tommy totallyyy fucked up here by burning a little TINY tiny small tiny bit of c!Georges home and then trying to fix it. And then he lied about it. (/sarc) But, c!Dream was provoking him in the whisper chat with ":)" and "have fun on probation :)"
During exile, he focuses on putting all blame for his problems on c!Tommy. Not just saying that to c!Tommys face but on other people's streams, he was there talking about how much of a nuisance c!Tommy is and what not.
In exile, he proceeds to get c!Tommy dependent on him so c!Tommy will help with his goals later on. But the way he goes about this is to a severe extreme like how he snaps at him and hits him with an axe or arrow, he takes great enjoyment in bullying c!Tommy and getting others like c!Lazarbeam to bully him too, he makes sure c!Tommy is completely lonely even sending c!Ghostbur away who was memory loss so how could he break c!Dreams plans exactly?, he gasights c!Tommy into thinking that c!Dream didn't kill Mexican Dream, he blows up c!Tommys base despite never telling c!Tommy the rule about how he can't have chests underground.
He goes onto track c!Tommy down. And again, its more the way he goes about it.
Once c!Tommy is back in L'manberg, c!Dream blows up the community house and frames it on c!Tommy. Getting everyone against him and he tells c!Tubbo that he is affiliated to c!Tommy based on the disc that he says is 'Tommys most prized possession' which is him getting c!Tubbo to go against c!Tommy once more.
After Lmanberg gets blown up again. c!Dream tells c!Tommy "I'm not done with you. Our stories not over... Our stories not over" c!Tommy says "Our stories not over but it will be... It will be soon" and c!Dream replies "I don't think our story will ever be over, Tommy. I think that you're just too fun. I don't think It'll be over."
In disc finale, he proceeds to act like that c!Tommy is his main target, calling him the key to the server and going after him more than c!Tubbo. And puts the idea in c!Clingyduos heads that he needs all the possesions to control the server. (now even though c!Dream staged this whole thing and wasn't actually saying his motivations, c!Tommy never knows that he lied about that not at this point at least. It further riles c!Tommy up and has him believing that c!Dream really is obsessed with hurting him and since c!Dream never explains why properly, it comes off to c!Tommy that he is obsessed for no reason.) (Also possible for it to be half staged making the motivations semi-true)
Then, c!Dream causes c!Tommy to get stuck in the cell with him by controlling c!Ranboo to do that (which this is confirmed that he really did do this, confirmed in the final lore stream and in dream xds video)
The point of c!Dream allegedly lying to make c!Tommy think c!Dream was after him all the time is further solidified when in the prison arc. c!Dream refers to c!Tommy as a light, and key and keeps going on about studying death with him. I know a lot of this may very well be real and a result from him being mentally ill from isolation, but theres so many lies sprinkled in here like telling c!Tommy that he never tested out the revival book before when he had (btw correct me if Im wrong here, I could of got the dates mixed up)
c!Sam also claims that c!Dream kept going on about c!Tommy in the prison, c!Sam also says that c!Dream was practically manically laughing after he killed c!Tommy. (Obsession, putting on an act of obsession, mentally ill from the prison sure maybe all 3)
After c!Dream escapes prison, he immediately goes after c!Tommy. (Which sure is to scare c!Tommy into no longer going after him or whatever it could be an act) But he's still putting the idea in c!Tommys head that he's obsessed with hurting him, and don't say that he did this unintentionally because we already have the 'you're too fun line' and several other moments to prove otherwise. He also then puts signs around c!Tommys home saying 'watch your back' and ":) I'm watching" and he makes a trap for c!Tommy to fall into playing back a messed up disc. Don't say that this was apart of c!Tommys delusion because c!Eryn saw it too and a few others did from what I remember-unless thats retconned idunno.
In c!Wilburs finale, c!Dream can't stand the idea of the discs being burned. (The discs are affiliated with c!Tommy as c!Dream has said before, and has said that the discs are c!Tommys most prized possesion) He still cares about them even now. He also watches c!Tommy for majority of the time.
In Dreams space, he claims that his character was not solely torturing c!Tommy for the sake of it, but that he still really enjoyed hurting c!Tommy. Its to vague to tell if Dream is denouncing the 'c!Dream is obsessed with c!Tommy' theory or not. I believe he is saying that it is half true- as in that his character is, but that he has reasons to do so, and or that this wasn't his only plan.
During the final lore finale, c!Dream claims that he wasn't targeting c!Tommy and that he had left him alone however that contradicts with everything I wrote above, so 1. He thinks he left c!Tommy alone, 2. He was referring to the present where he did leave him alone and purposely/or accidentally ignoring the past, or 3. he knows he didn't and is just trying to rile c!Tommy up. Either way he goes onto admit that he did cause c!Ranboo to get c!Tommy stuck in the prison. He also confirms later on that he genuinely believes c!Tommy is the cause of the ruining of his server. "Why are you ruining everything all the time" "You deserved it (torture)" "I am (a villain), I tortured you."
And not to mention. Out of everyone on the server that gets c!Dream to give up and somewhat open up, its c!Tommy... because ofc it is. No ones surprised.
I think that's everything. as always I'm happy to debate with people and stuff preferably in dms but idm. If anything is wrong, correct it. If anything is missed, let me know. ty
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montic0 · 1 year
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We can still have L’moonburg, right guys? right?
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cellberry · 2 years
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Post-lore content of c!Wilbur: He’s back baby and making it everyone’s problem! He’s scaring away the customers with stories of revolutionary minecraft wars and blue sheep in train station hell. He’s become mormon. He has his own Wikipedia page. God bless America 🇺🇸
Post-lore content of c!Tommy: He’struly alone and abandoned truly. The rain is his sorrow and that peninsula is his only confidant. c!Dream is right around the corner waiting to revivekill him. No future. Such is the life of a tommy.
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nefkyo · 1 year
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Restless
a short fic about c!Dream's revival during the DSMP S1 Finale from c!Punz's point of view.
Characters: c!Dream, c!Punz, c!Tommy, c!Tubbo
Tags: implied death, necromancy (of course), blood, mania?, hurt-comfort (c!punz style)
The chants gave him a massive headache at first. When they tested the rites on each other, his head hurt for days like he was hangover - "Maybe this is what 'drunk on power' means", he thought without remorse. Though it wasn't just the adrenaline that made them keep trying until they'd get easier, roll faster on the tongue. It was the prospect of defying Death.
He didn't have a lot of time to do it. Tubbo and Tommy were already coming down the steps, the blonde up first with his shield drawn and his suspicions met. But he was ready, yes, he knew he'd have to perform the ritual without his corpse present. He grabbed his notes from his desk, read the runes, muttered the chant under his breath with precision. The runes may seem complicated to other people, but Dream had found the way to read them and even taught him how to translate them to English. He traced the pattern with his hands and concentrated. His muscles tensed to the point of pain.
Come on. Come on. You've done this a thousand times.
A dark flash. A strange rumble beneath his feet and a thunder of pure magic. The air went cold and then warm again as a pair of bloodied hands, then a head, then a full person crawled out of the portal that was there and gone again in a second. And just like that, he was back.
The moment his eyes were open, he gave chase. Tubbo and Tommy screamed in horror as they ran back up the steps and into the light again. They're cussing and shouting over eachother while Dream's beyond furious pace quickens, until he's almost grabbed one of them, yes, he's almost got his fingers locked around Tubbo's boot-- before he leaps out and kicks him in the face in the process, the entrance of the vault is blocked off with cobble.
The screams start to dissipate, the young ram barely noticing what he's just done. "Dream?" Punz calls from below the steps. No answer, just horrible sounds. Bate knuckles on stone. Blood. He isn't just angry. He's manic, frantic. They mustn't have noticed how he was staggering up the stairs, how his knees were almost touching the steps rather than push him forward. He's tired. He's confused.
And he doesn't hear him call his name over and over while he's on his knees, trying to dig his raw, bloody fingernails into the cobble. "Dream! Dream, hold on, stop!". He thinks for a moment about grabbing the emergency supplies before going back up, but even a second wasted sounds horrifying right now. He catches up to him, he sees the gash on his back, his arms stained in old and new crimson. Almost tentatively, then more gently, he has to put a hand on his shoulder. Dream almost jumps, hitting his head on the rocks. "It's me!" Punz says.
Dream looks at him, but without focus. "Punz-- Do you have a pickaxe? Quick, give me your pickaxe!" he scrambles together as he stands to his feet, and Punz is immediately fixed on the wounds he won't acknowledge. "Dream, take a minute--" "No, no, they'll get away, the pickaxe--" "Dream, they won't get far! They're out of breath and hurt!" Punz exclaims, then more softly adds "You're hurt."
The funny thing about revival is that it won't fully heal the person if it's done too quickly. The less funny part is that the person doesn't realize they're still wounded.
Dream looks down at his stomach, then at his hands. He stares a lot at his hands. "You've scared them enough, Dream. Take a breather." He murmurs, turning Dream's palms to inspect how he - yep, he did it again - almost crushed the bones in his hands to punch the barrier. Dream inhales with a tremble and Punz already knows to wrap an arm around him. His legs shake with no restrain, he looks so much smaller than he is. He mumbles apologies and gratitude in the crook of his neck and Punz just squeezes him lightly without a word while accompanying him to sit halfway on the blackstone steps.
Punz finally opens one of the Emergency Chests at the entrance of the vault, filled with milk, golden apples and all kinds of potions. "You're dizzy, aren't you?" Punz says with echo, remembering the motion sickness as a side effect. "A little", Dream lies. He helps him bring the glass of milk to his lips and sip calmly, scrutinizing the airflow in his chest until it evens out. But he also hears him too well when he spits "They got me. I know it was part of the plan, but they just... They fucking got me." Punz just nods and gives him the apple. "They're probably headed towards Tommy's house. They don't have anywhere - or anyone else - to go to." he adds before his partner bites into the apple and chews too quickly. He beings to walk up the steps, pickaxe in hand. "Remember to drink the Regen potion slowly." he reminds him. Dream sighs in response, which Punz likes to interpret as a 'thank you honey'.
The cobble barrier falls apart to let fresh air grace their faces. Dream's brushes pebbles off his mended armor, while Punz reaches his hand out to him. Climbing out they don't say anything, but they're thinking the same thing. They've been doing that more often, though they'll never find out they're doing it at all.
They won't get far. Let's go.
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hubrisity · 2 years
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Watched the finale of Wilbur's lore stream and...... wow!
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bleue-flora · 1 month
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So um, in light of my last post I was inspired to look into other dsmp people's ages because I feel like we don’t really think about it too often and oh does it make things interesting…
Just for reference and consideration, here are some United States Legal Age Minimums:
Drive: 16-18
Adult: 18-21
Vote: 18
Drink Alcohol: 21
Political Office: 25 (Representative) 30 (Senator) 35 (President)
Military: 17-18
Also Note: On average the brain is scientifically not fully developed until age 25 - and oh wouldn't you know it 90% of the server fall under that, meaning no wonder we have a bunch of wars their prefrontal cortex isn't fully developed and wouldn't you know it that part of the brain is responsible for regulating attention, behavior, and emotion as well as the processing that Actions Have Consequences... huh whelp that makes sense.
Anyways… age data is below (I didn't do everyone nor every event - nobody got time for that ;D... I didn't have time for this to begin with lol...) But I specifically want to highlight that not only was Dream 21 from Jan-Aug of his Imprisonment, but Sam was also 21 till Jun, and Quackity was literally 20 while he was daily torturing Dream... 20?! They were roughly a year apart, all of them so close. Like can you imagine, treating your peer like that? Sam is like a couple months older than Dream and that's it. Quackity can't even drink legally in the United States. That's insane...
(* to signify canonical Immortality)
Ok, so the full list of members and ages is at the bottom, but first, here are so key events I picked just to highlight their ages at the time.
Server Creation - April 24, 2020
GeorgeNotFound - 23 Callahan - 23 Dream - 20 Sapnap - 19
L'Manberg War - August 2, 2020
BadBoyHalo - 25 WilburSoot - 23 GeorgeNotFound - 23 Callahan - 23 Punz - 23 Eret - 21 Awesamdude - 21 Dream - 20 Fundy - 20 Skeppy - 20 Ponk - 20 Quackity - 19 Sapnap - 19 Niki Nihachu - 19 Jack Manifold - 17 Purpled - 16 Tubbo - 16 Tommy - 16
Pogtopia vs Manberg War - November 16th, 2020
Philza - 32* BadBoyHalo - 25 HBomb - 26 WilburSoot - 24 GeorgeNotFound - 24 Callahan - 23 Punz - 23 Karl Jacobs -22 Antfrost - 22 CaptainPuffy - 22 Eret - 21 Technoblade - 21* Awesamdude - 21 Dream - 21 Connor - 21 Schlatt - 21 Fundy - 21 Skeppy - 20 Ponk - 20 Quackity - 19 Sapnap - 19 Niki Nihachu - 19 Jack Manifold - 18 Purpled - 17 Ranboo - 17 Tubbo - 16 Tommy - 16
Exile - December 4, 2020
Ghostbur - 24 Technoblade - 21* Dream - 21 Ranboo - 17 Tubbo - 16 Tommy - 16
Doomsday - January 6, 2021
Philza - 32* HBomb - 27 Callahan - 23 Punz - 23 CaptainPuffy - 22 Eret - 21 Technoblade - 21* Dream - 21 Fundy - 21 Ponk - 20 Quackity - 20 Sapnap - 19 Niki Nihachu - 19 Jack Manifold - 18 Ranboo - 17 Tubbo - 17 Tommy - 16
Disc Confrontation - January 20, 2021
HBomb - 27 BadBoyHalo - 25 Callahan - 24 Punz - 23 Antfrost - 22 CaptainPuffy - 22 Eret - 22 Awesamdude - 21 Dream - 21 Ponk - 20 Quackity - 20 Sapnap - 19 Niki Nihachu - 19 Jack Manifold - 18 Ranboo - 17 Tubbo - 17 Tommy - 16
Quackity’s First Prison Visit - March 16, 2021
Awesamdude - 21 Dream - 21 Quackity - 20
Techno's Visit- June 6, 2021
Technoblade - 22* Awesamdude - 21 Dream - 21
Jailbreak - November 28, 2021
Philza - 33* HBomb - 27 BadBoyHalo - 26 George - 25 Callahan - 24 Punz - 24 Karl Jacobs - 23 Antfrost - 23 CaptainPuffy - 23 Foolish Gamers - 22 Eret - 22 Technoblade - 22* Awesamdude - 22 Dream - 22 Connor - 22 Fundy - 22 Skeppy - 21 Hannahxxrose - 21 Ponk - 21 Quackity - 20 Sapnap - 20 Niki Nihachu - 20 Jack Manifold - 19 Purpled - 18 Ranboo - 18 Tubbo - 17 Tommy - 17
Comprehensive List From Oldest to Youngest: Name - Date of Birth (Current Age) - [Join Date] Age when Joined
Philza- March 1, 1988 (36) – [Nov 16, 2020]  32 *Immortal*
HBomb- Jan 4, 1994 (30) – [Sept 22, 2020]  26
BadBoyHalo- April 2, 1995 (28) – [May 19, 2020]  25
Wilbur- Sept 14, 1996 (27) – [July 12, 2020] 23
GeorgeNotFound- Nov 1, 1996 (27) – [April 24, 2020]  23
Callahan- Jan 19, 1997 (27) – [April 24, 2020]  23 
Punz- Jan 31, 1997 (27) – [July 7, 2020]  23  
Karl Jacobs- July 19, 1998 (25) – [Aug 26, 2020]  22 
Antfrost- Aug 27, 1998 (25) – [Sep 5, 2020]  22 
Captain Puffy- Sept 18, 1998 (25) – [Nov 16, 2020]  22
Foolish Gamers- Dec 18, 1998 (25) – [Jan 16, 2021]  22 *Immortal*
Eret- Jan 9, 1999 (25) – [July 19, 2020]  21
Technoblade- June 1, 1999 (23) – [Sept 22, 2020]  21 *Immortal*
Awesamdude - June 8, 1999 (24) – [April 28, 2020]  20 
Dream - Aug 12, 1999 (24) – [April 24, 2020]  20
Connor- Aug 26, 1999 (24) – [Nov 16, 2020]  21
Schlatt- Sept 10, 1999 (24) – [Sept 20, 2020]  21 
Fundy- Oct 10, 1999 (24) – [July 7, 2020]  20 
Skeppy- Jan 17, 2000 (24) – [July 18, 2020]  20 
Ponk- April 18, 2000 (23) – [May 7, 2020]  20 
Quackity- Dec 28, 2000 (23) – [Aug 11, 2020]  19 
Sapnap- March 1, 2001 (23) – [April 24, 2020]  19 
Niki Nihachu- Nov 3, 2001 (22) – [Aug 6, 2020]  18 
Jack Manifold- Aug 14, 2002 (21) – [Aug 3, 2020]  17 
Purpled- Oct 24, 2003 (20) – [July 9, 2020]  16
Ranboo- Nov 2, 2003 (20) – [Nov 17, 2020]  17 
Tubbo- Dec 23, 2003 (20) – [July 7, 2020]  16 
Tommy- April 9, 2004 (19) – [July 4, 2020]  16 
They are all babies confirmed... things make so much more sense... brain development guys it's important ;)
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eonslice · 2 years
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ctntduo if they talked during the lore finale
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i-didnt-do-1t · 1 year
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A little more reflection on life and death, a little more reflection on self sacrifice
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A c!tommy poem (specifically the second last lore stream)
- ‘there will not be much of me left to bury’
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hopalongfairywren · 3 months
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The Weight Of Us is such a c!Clingyduo song. Like yeah There are thieves who rob us blind and kings who kill us fine but steady the rights and the wrongs and bathe us in innocent song I can't decide which of them it fits more though. I think c!Tubbo. Anyways if I had any artistic talent i'd host a multi animator project about clingyduo's whole story to that song but ugh
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