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dcconfessions · 6 months
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i love donna troy and nobody appreciates her enough. the fandom sort of treats her as the therapist friend (especially for dick) and it pisses me off bc shes so much more than that!
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martyrbat · 8 months
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doom patrol vs teen titans – solo #7
[ID: Dick Grayson and Donna Troy in their respective costumes in Bruce Wayne's penthouse. Donna said it's like a party paradise, which causes Dick to unhesitantly rat out his mentor, “Naw. He doesn't really bring girls here. Once or twice a month he drags Wonder Woman or Batwoman up here to keep up his bored playboy façade. They mostly just sit around and play cribbage all night. A swinger he's not!” Dick pours chips in a bowl as Donna is looking at Bruce's vinyls with a displeased expression! She judges the middle-aged man, “I should say he's not! Frank Sinatra? Ed Ames? Ugh! Luckily, the hostess with the mostest brought her own mod tunes! Time to get this joint jumping with the keen teen scene!” END ID]
(the vinyls are ‘Sinatra And Swingin’ Bass’ and ‘Sings Who Will Answer? (And Other Songs Of Our Time)’ btw :))
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hood-ex · 2 years
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People used to ask me how I thought Dick should die or what his death would look like, and at the time, I was kind of imagining some "die while saving the world" endgame because that's big and important and impactful. BUT. Now I can't stop thinking about Dick dying to save Donna because hello.
"You died while saving me and now I'm going to save you."
Dying to save his platonic soulmate and repaying the favor?? Donna, wounded and unable to get up, desperately grabbing his hands and begging him not to?? Dick telling her he loves her and then kissing her on the forehead before he leaves?? A single page of Donna crying and calling out for him??
I WOULD BE DEVASTATED.
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viaov · 1 year
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Elsa C., Wonder Woman
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plastic-pipes · 5 months
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Weekly Wonder Woman (6/?):
+ Donna Troy c:
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fancyfade · 27 days
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I do think that Garth and Donna parallels are neat, but not necessarily by just telling the reader that they have parallels
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Titans #28
The Garth I know is also. way less warrior-y. I'd emphasize more their outsider-status*, but if we do go with a more warrior-y interpretation for Donna (which I don't mind, I've seen it also in other comics, especially titans/yj graduation day, return of donna troy, and some WW comics IIRC), I would have that be a big difference she has with Garth.
*I know Donna acclimated super quick into Man's World, but that's b/c Bob Haney is a coward who just wrote her as "generic teenage girl as a man in the 60s imagines" and didn't read any wonder woman comics
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TWO OF THEM TOURNAMENT ROUND 1
Begins March 15 at noon EST. There will be 8 polls per day. Matchups under the cut.
DAY ONE
Troy Barnes & Abed Nadir (Community) VS Booster Gold & Ted Kord (DC Comics) WINNER: Troy & Abed!
Ingo & Emmet (Pokemon) VS Newton Geiszler & Hermann Gottlieb (Pacific Rim) WINNER: Ingo & Emmet!
Kagamine Rin & Len (Vocaloid) VS Sherlock Holmes & John Watson (The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes) WINNER: Holmes & Watson!
Sans & Papyrus (Undertale) VS Sun Wukong & Six-eared Macaque (LEGO Monkie Kid) WINNER: Sans & Papyrus!
Breekon & Hope (Magnus Archives) VS Ace Trappola & Deuce Spade (Twisted Wonderland) WINNER: Breekon & Hope!
Dipper & Mabel Pines (Gravity Falls) VS Achilles & Patroclus (Greek mythology) WINNER: Dipper & Mabel!
Mario & Luigi (Super Mario Bros) VS Ash Ketchum & Pikachu (Pokemon) WINNER: Mario & Luigi!
Jessie & James (Pokemon) VS Timon & Pumbaa (The Lion King) WINNER: Jessie & James!
DAY TWO
Rosencrantz & Guildenstern (Hamlet) VS Benson Mekler & Dave (Kipo) WINNER: Rosencrantz & Guildenstern!
Pippin Took & Merry Brandybuck (Lord of the Rings) VS Benton Fraser & Ray Kowalski (Due South) WINNER: Merry & Pippin!
Frodo Baggins & Samwise Gamgee (Lord of the Rings) VS Sailor Uranus & Sailor Neptune (Sailor Moon) WINNER: Frodo & Sam!
Aziraphale & Crowley (Good Omens) VS Finn & Jake (Adventure Time) WINNER: Finn & Jake!
Statler & Waldorf (The Muppet Show) VS Strong Bad & The Cheat (Homestar Runner) WINNER: Statler & Waldorf!
Bert & Ernie (Sesame Street) VS Vex'ahlia & Vax'ildan (Critical Role) WINNER: Bert & Ernie!
Sonic & Tails (Sonic the Hedgehog) VS Jadzia Dax (Star Trek) WINNER: Sonic & Tails!
Phineas & Ferb VS Carl Carlson & Lenny Leonard (The Simpsons) WINNER: Phineas & Ferb!
DAY THREE
Sam & Max VS Will Graham & Hannibal Lecter (NBC Hannibal) WINNER: Sam & Max!
Spongebob & Patrick (Spongebob Squarepants) VS Eddie Brock & Venom (Marvel Comics) WINNER: Spongebob & Patrick!
Wallace & Gromit VS The 10th Doctor & Donna Noble (Doctor Who) WINNER: Wallace & Gromit!
Geordi LaForge & Data (Star Trek) VS Frog & Toad WINNER: Frog & Toad!
Spock & Jim Kirk (Star Trek) VS Wug Test (Linguistics) WINNER: Spock & Kirk!
Bill S. Preston & Theodore Logan (Bill and Ted) VS Fireboy & Watergirl WINNER: Bill & Ted!
Nadja of Antipaxos & Laszlo Cravensworth (What We Do in the Shadows) VS Heinz Doofenshmirtz & Perry the Platypus (Phineas and Ferb) WINNER: Doofenshmirtz & Perry!
Nastya Rasputina & The Aurora (The Mechanisms) VS Harry DuBois & Kim Kitsuragi (Disco Elysium) WINNER: Harry & Kim!
DAY FOUR
Pinky & The Brain (Animaniacs) VS Scooby & Shaggy (Scooby-Doo) WINNER: Scooby & Shaggy!
Nico Di Angelo & Will Solace (Percy Jackson) VS Timmy & Tommy (Animal Crossing) WINNER: Timmy & Tommy!
Calvin & Hobbes VS Bunsen & Beaker (The Muppet Show) WINNER: Calvin & Hobbes!
Kris & Susie (Deltarune) VS Mercutio & Benvolio (Romeo and Juliet) WINNER: Kris & Susie!
Wirt & Greg (Over the Garden Wall) VS R2-D2 & C-3PO (Star Wars) WINNER: R2-D2 & C-3PO!
Mac McDonald & Charlie Kelly (It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia) VS Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde WINNER: Mac & Charlie!
Phoenix Wright & Maya Fey (Ace Attorney) VS John Doe & Arthur Lester (Malevolent) WINNER: Phoenix & Maya!
Legolas Greenleaf & Gimli (Lord of the Rings) VS Jedediah Smith & Gaius Octavius (Night at the Museum) WINNER: Legolas & Gimli!
RECAP
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dc-polls · 4 months
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"That Really Happened?!" DC Comics Tournament Semi Finals - Match C
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[ID: Two images of cropped comics panels. The first is four versions of Donna Troy Wonder Girl looking annoyed. The second image is Jason Todd as a brownish monster with a person's torso in his mouth. /END]
Moving on from their rounds against Superboy Prime and Milk Wars Inflation we have...
Bob Haney Doesn't Know Who Wonder Girl Was Supposed to Be
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Jason Todd: Tentacle Monster (Tentatodd)
Make sure to follow the links above and check the notes to read more about each event!
Which one is more shocking, unbelievable or just plain wild?
Vote on the other two semi finals HERE and HERE!
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besthuggertourney · 1 year
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BEST HUGGER TOURNEY: THE MASTERPOST
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I'll be updating this post with links to each poll and the winners of each round, as we move forward towards the finale
ROUND 1-A
Roy Harper v Barry Allen
Courtney Whitmore v Max Crandall
Martha Kent v Cassie Sandsmark
Wally West v J'onn J'onzz
ROUND 1-B
Kon El v Waylon Jones
Jenni Ognats v Ollie Queen
Duke Thomas v Diana Prince
Al Rothstein v Donna Troy
ROUND 1-C
Dick Grayson v Harleen Quinzel
Connor Hawke v Nia Nal
Solomon Grundy v Bart Allen
Kara Zor-El v Big Bear
ROUND 1-D
Cissie King-Jones v Jay Garrick
Stephanie Brown v Kori Anders
Jason Todd v Red Tornado
Clark Kent v Patrick "Eel" O'Brian
ROUND ONE COMPLETE!
Round 2-A
Harleen Quinzel v Connor Hawke
Bart Allen v Big Bear
Round 2-B
Jay Garrick v Kory Anders
Jason Todd v Clark Kent
Round 2-C
Roy Harper v Courtney Whitmore
Martha Kent v Wally West
Round 2-D
Kon-El v Ollie Queen
Diana Prince v Donna Troy
ROUND TWO COMPLETE!
Round 3-A
Connor Hawke v Big Bear
Round 3-B
Kory Anders v Clark Kent
Round 3-C
Roy Harper v Martha Kent
Round 3-D
Ollie Queen v Diana Prince
ROUND THREE COMPLETE!
SEMIFINAL MATCHUPS:
Big Bear v Clark Kent
Martha Kent v Ollie Queen
Propaganda and campaigning are more than welcome! Askbox and submissions should both be open, if you wanna add your two cents!
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dcconfessions · 11 months
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I wanna read different Titans stuff more because it's crucial reading for Donna, Kory, Vic and Raven but I find Dick, Gar and Wally so annoying and sadly they're one of the mains
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martyrbat · 10 months
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teen titans (1966) #2
[ID: Wonder Girl having her ponytail tied around the base of a tree that's on a cliffside to keep her and the rest of the Titans from being pulled down. She has her hands on her hips as she quips, “Look, ma—no hands!” Kid Flash is barely in the panel as he grips her ankle and chimes, “Ring-a-ding-ding! Never thought there'd be just a ponytail between me and eternity!” END ID]
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linkspooky · 1 year
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What do you think about Teen Titans TV Series?
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Best Cartoon ever created? Best Cartoon ever created.
I think the strongest thing about the Teen Titans Cartoon is that it's the most cartoon, to ever cartoon. The writers have gone on record by saying that their challenge was to always try to do the most creative thing possible with every episode, and the result we get is that it's this wild, unrestrained beast which uses the medium of cartoons to tell a story. In my opinion it's as hard hitting as like ATLA, Batman the Animated Series, etc. etc. but like it's made by people who are huge warner brothers cartoons nerds. There's scooby doo references! There's FLCL references! They do entire episodes where the goal is to animate the weirdest thing possible. It is just so unashamedly a cartoon and not trying to be what it is, like no wonder so many children got attached to this.
It's also essentially what everyone's introduction to the Teen Titans was, and the most popular team lineup nowadays.
So like there are two ways you can talk about it, as it's own show, and as an adaptation. As someone who has read every Teen Titans comic ever though, I do have some hot takes on it as an adaptation. UNDER THE CUT.
Number one: Donna Troy's character is missing, and there's a big Donna shaped hole in the team. I don't know if they just couldn't get the rights to Donna, or they couldn't make her work with the story they were going for but like Donna is actually super important to the team dynamic of the Titans. She's the one normal person, the babysitter, the mom.
People wonder why Starfire is so softened in this adaptation, and while I generally agree they rounded off the edges too much on Starfire to make her more palatable especially for kids I feel like Starfire had to have these rtaits of being the patient one, being the naive newcomer, being the one who always served as the therapist friend because Donna wasn't there, but the group needed SOMEONE to be the emotionally intelligent one. I'd say Starfire isn't really out of character so much as they grafted Donna's traits onto her and had her pulling double duty as being Starfire but serving Donna's role to the team, and to Dick Grayson.
Number Two: I don't actually think the Teen Titans cartoon character ruined Raven's character in modern comics. I think the fact that DC editing staff repeated the terror of trigon arc about, five times, until Raven was like double dead and they had no place left to take her character in fact ruined Raven's character.
Dc Editing staff has not figured out basically what they want Raven's character to look like post-trigon, where they would want her character to go, or what she would even act like having grown past the phase of her life where she has removed herself from Trigon's influence and it's shown by Raven basically being a non-character for the past ten years.
Marvel does the exact same thing with Jean Gray where they keep on recycling Dark Phoenix forever, and ever, and ever. I don't think Raven's character being empty is the fault of the titans cartoon, I think it's because they keep recycling her dark phoenix moment and don't know what to do past that. Like "They keep resetting Raven to a younger version of her character" that's not necessarily the fault of the cartoon either, they do that to Jean Gray. and it's cuz they wanna repeat Dark Phoenix / Terror of TRigon instead of just trying to move past that.
Number Three: So when it comes to individual character adaptation.
Robin: This is the best Dick Grayson adaptation, with the exception of the Live Action Titans show Dick Grayson. Dick suffers from what I like to call the "WanyeFamilyAdventures-ification" where people like to sand off all of his character flaws to make him a wholesome good boy. Dick was an angry little kid for a long time, like Batman turning into him into a sidekick and Bruce's like really overbearing controlling nature did a number on Dick and he's a way more compelling character when he's working through those issues then when people skip straight to NIght Wing and make him "The Good Robin."
Also, like Dick Grayson is always better in Titans adaptations bar none. I wonder why. It's almost like he's a Teen Titans character and that's where his good development is.
Cyborg: Cyborg is probably the most accurate to his comic book counterpart, the only thing they really cut out was his interactions with his father, and his connection to the city he grew up in which are important but like they were superheroes most of the time in this show. Cyborg just has like a really strong disability representation narrative which has always been a big part of his character and how he stands out. On top of that they do a lot of focus on Cyborg's flaws and his own personal narrative how like unlike most of the other characters he was a completely normal kid, and he had his life thrown off by his life altering accident and now he is still trying to grow up and gain some semblance of his life back. And like living with prosthesis is not the end of the world to him because he figures out he can still live just like everybody else, his life can be just as fulfilling before the accident. The fact that Cyborg is just kind of a normal kid who went through a horrible accident, but chooses to do good and become a hero makes him one of the more compelling and down to earth characters. Cyborg's all about his emotions too,he's like the most driven, the most in a hurry to grow up, the most argumentative he's cool.
Starfire - I mean I kind of explained why, but Starfire is the character who suffered the most from the adaptation. Especially since she's the only character who doesn't get a season. If you want to watch a more comics accurate Starfire, who still keeps her traits of being the loving, emotional, heart of the group while having a much rougher exterior then please watch the Live Action Titans on HBOMAX.
Beast Boy - Actually pretty accurate, I like to bully Beast Boy so don't take this too seriously, but Beast Boy is like if Dick Grayson was more annoying and whiny. Beast Boy is an essential member of the team, but he's not the smartest, not the strongest, not the most driven. He's kind of completely necessary because you need one person on the team of children who acts like an actual kid. Beast Boy's weird immature bullshit is actually just as important as the other character's issues, and this Beast Boy especially gets two seasons sort of since his character is so tied to Terra. The only thing that I'm sad they cut out is Beast Boy's trauma from losing the doom patrol is so interesting in New Teen Titans and such an important part of his character for a long time, it's a little bit sad they cut out his really bad depression.
Raven - I don't knooooooooooooow. The thing is I don't know if you could have done a comics accurate adaptation of Raven as a character. Raven in the comics is like such a slow burner character. For the longest time she barely interacts with the team she just like teleports in and out. When she starts living with the team she has no relationship to anybody besides Jericho until like, way past the Terror of Trigon arc. If you wnted to do a cartoon that is about the dynamic of the whole team, where every character consistently shows up every episode, where they have to get in group fights, those traits of Raven would not have fit well at all.
Like, adaptations sometimes have to make changes. However, I think Raven's character is actually a lot more in spirit of the original character than people give her credit for. Like I've said in othe rposts Raven is Jean Grey. What you need to get right about her, is that she is a heavily abuse and isolated child who believes deep down she is evil, and she will hurt people if she ever loses that carefully managed control of herself. If you keep that core to her character I believe you have essentially captured the spirit of her character. Characters aren't just like personality traits, they're also themes, and the most important theme of all to Raven is a young girl told she wasn't even allowed to exist, and that her birth is a sin reclaiming agency over herself and learning how to live. Teen Titans has that and so you have a character that is true to the spirit of the character if not a 1:1 adaptation.
Terra - This is probably the best adaptation of Judas Contract. Yes, I know Terra in the cartoon is way more sympathetic than comics Terra but like, a twelve year old cannot process comic book Tara Markov, grooming victim, sociopath, hater and still see those sympathetic traits. I think once again the spirit of the character, rather than a 1:1 adaptation.
I read an interview somewhere where, the gist of what they said was the creators also didn't want Terra to quit the team, or fail at the end of her arc. But, some people aren't meant to be heroes. That is who Terra is at the core of her character. She's not necessarily a bad person, she just couldn't make it as a hero. Terra's self involved, and unempathic, and hurts a lot of people but at the same time her life is genuinely hard, and she was groomed by Slade and all of these things make Terra a mess.
I think one thing that the cartoon nails is number one Terra is a fake human being TM. Basically no matter who she is around, Terra is never presenting her real self to anyone. Terra's personality changes wildly depending on who she is with, when she's with Beast Boy she acts like a normal kid, when she's with Raven she's catty and mean spirited, when she is with Slade she's conniving and manipualtive, there's like no consistency between any of these identities because Terra is in constant survival mode. She is just a runaway kid who is saying and doing anything to live to the next moment because she's had no stability in her entire life.
Number two, is that Terra does not trust anyone, ever. Terra is exactly the kind of person who would blow up over a little betrayal of thinking Beast Boy told someone else about her powers, because like I said she is in survival mode. She is constantly expecting that betrayal coming and trying to make herself ready for it. In fact, I think from Terra's point of view the Teen Titans betrayed her to begin with. The night that Terra betrayed the Titans, she makes it sound like Beast Boy is the one who betrayed her by breaking his promise to her to always accept her and be her friend no matter what happens. That's insane because obviously he'd be mad at her for letting Slade get the access codes to the tower, and distracting Beast Boy while he attacked all of his friends. but like...!! In Terra's weird little head it makes sense. Terra can't really see the consequences of her actions because she's always reacting to things. She literally cannot decide things or choose things for herself, so it's almost easier to do what Slade wants of her because number one the way Slade treats her alligns with Terra's idea of what relatinoships are, based on transaction and not trust. Number two, he at least introduces some kind of control in her life, whereas the easy trust the titans share with one another is something she's to scared to belive in.
So yes, I think cartoon Terra is different than comics Terra and I definitely like comics Terra better but I don't think it's a bad adaptation of the character at all. I also don't want to fault the show for not being like the comic books, it's an adaptation it's supposed to make changes.
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snaxle · 8 months
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who are your favorite female characters :O
NOT NECESSARILY IN ORDER
- NAMI (One Piece) - Harley Quinn (DC) - Lucy Heartfilia (Fairy Tail) - Boa Hancock (One Piece) - Mio (Dororo) - Noelle Silva (Black Clover) - c!Tina (DSMP) - Starfire (DC) - Power (Chainsaw Man) - Orihime Inoue (Bleach) - Donna Troy (DC) - Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) - Touka Kirishima (Tokyo Ghoul) - Yoruichi Shihōin (Bleach) - Riza Hawkeye (Fullmetal Alchemist) - Matrona (Seven Deadly Sins) - Elizabeth Liones (Seven Deadly Sins) - Reyna Ramírez-Arellano (Percy Jackson) - Temari (Naruto) - Diana Prince (DC) - Riyo (Gachiakuta) - Sakura Haruno (Naruto) - Cassandra Cain (DC) - Nico Robin (One Piece) - Nefertari Vivi (One Piece) - Iris (Fire Force) - Ultear Milkovich (Fairy Tail) - Lust (Fullmetal Alchemist) - Eto Yoshimura (Tokyo Ghoul) - Saiko Yonebayashi (Tokyo Ghoul) - Sally Jackson (Percy Jackson) - Perona (One Piece) - Bishamon (Noragami) - Retsu Unohana (Bleach) - Derieri (Seven Deadly Sins) - Iris West (DC) - Medusa (Soul Eater) - q!Tina (QSMP, she isnt canon yet but in my heart she is) - Semiu (Gachiakuta) - Kate Kane (DC) - Lois Lane (DC) - Iris West (DC) - Regina George (Mean Girls) - Katniss Everdeen (Hunger Games) - Makima (Chainsaw Man) - Madoka Magica (Madoka Magica) -
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troythings · 28 days
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rating donna troy costumes part 3
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oh god. what the fuck man. i have so many opinions about this damn costume. i should not have so many fkin opinions about this ONE costume. gahhhhhh.
it works for that specific version of donna and her origin. an aggressive, more conservative take on diana’s armor. the shoulderguards give off this cool militaristic silhouette, and the belt buckle kinda reinforces that by looking a bit like the one in a service uniform. also personally, the combination of the W logo coupled with the winged shoulderguards, call me crazy but that looks like donna’s belt logo got incorporated. that’s my crazy
it’s also fking impractical. like i think, besides the silver eagle armor its the most impractical armor on this list. the titans hunt#3 cover (left) fixes this by simplifying it and removing the cape. make the shoulderguards smaller and more ‘sculpted’ along the shoulders and it works. also get it a better palette.
i actually liked the composition of this costume when i first saw it, which is bc sonia oback did good job making a cohesive palette. front bodice and the harness buckles were red. side bodice, battleskirt and the upper side of the boots were brown. silver (crest, boot decorations) and gold (studs, shoulderguards belt buckle etc) were used appropriately. leggings and cape were black. there were flaws. but the color continuity worked.
so this starts to fall apart when the artists get inconsistent. finch doesn’t draw it as detailed as it was in the debut issue. the war torn arc had colorists with WILDLY different ideas on coloring the armor. the one in the middle (brad anderson) is all over the place. like holy god. there’s no organized palette or any contrast to diana’s. i also hate the way they colored that cape like. the fuck. why????
that arc did its thing and then new 52 donna popped up in titans hunt. for the most part it only looks good in the covers that yanick paquette drew for the series. like the skirt is simplified, the belt is simplified, we don’t have a cape in that cover and it actually looks redeemable. we also have a structured color palette again: silver makes up a majority of the metals there and maintains consistency, the bodice, boots and arm/sleeves/wraps/whatever are the same shade of red. skirt and armbands are same color. the black non-cape looking harness thing and the leggings match. in the comic it looks like hot garbage. that is all.
imo i think the paquette take on this costume should be the definitive version. it could be improved further by saturating the red further, giving donna actual bracelets, desaturating the gold and changing the red harness buckles to match the silver belt. darken the leggings to black and we’re good.
but like. the perception of this is heavily colored by that one arc. people see this costume and remember that this version of donna committed genocide. same way i hate the current one, just for being in the liberal virtue-signaling steve orlando storyline where unlawful combatant donna troy breaks international law and topples an entire country but its somehow ok because fAsCiSm. and like this costume has to be improved so much from canon. in canon it’s about as ugly as the first troia suit and only slightly more functional. so like. 0/10
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so this one’s solid actually. it’s a pretty cool way to tie in the black/silver color scheme without referring back to the godfuckingawful titan seed origin. here you just have the plausible deniability that a) the red became black, b) yellow stars went white and c) gold obviously turned into silver. sort of like a, costume graduation thing. kinda. like it’s a more tactical and reinforced version of the wonder girl aesthetic which is cool. modern militarism with amazon elements. i like the belt but i wish it wasn’t mistaken for an A all the time. the W on the collar is AESTHETIC im sorry but the one good thing of rebirth was that they gave the choker to donna and not diana. but it’s actually p good!! wish we still had it 10/10
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fucking 0/10 what were they trying to do here this is ugly this is needless whoever approved this should be court-martialed
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ew. ew. ew ew ew ew ew ew ew. like. im sorry but. dc it’s going to take a lot more than aesthetics to invoke the previous continuity. double that when this donna’s first solo story was her committing americentric violations of international law, thanks steve orlando for putting your dumbass liberal escapism in here and now this costume is ruined forever.
also im pretty sure its not gonna get better with the jimenez thing coming up. and the fucking “donna has a father” origin (goddamn ANOTHER RETCON). so not only does this suffer from the same thing with new 52 donna buuuuuut.
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dc. this exact costume was conceived in a fan edit from the 2010s. you didn’t even fucking try. 0/10
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