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sladedicktalia??????? i am LISTENING
there's like. 5 fics. im so starved. i think theyre so hot and funny together!! im obsessed. also this got long so im adding a readmore. whoops.
SlaDick: classic enemies to lovers. they may try to kill each other half the time but they respect each other more than anyone else. OBSESSED with each other, Slade knows he's weird about Dick and couldn't care less but Dick is so in denial about it. they could both give explicit consent but be so antagonistic about it that it becomes unclear if "yes i want to have sex with you" is actually code for "die right now" and i think that's beautiful.
SladeTalia: they fucked! in canon! there was some bullshit plotline where Talia tried to give Slade Damian and pretend he was his son instead! ex fuck buddies who show up just to make each other's lives harder bc they wanna fuck so bad it makes them have stupid brain. also they're both hot as hell. i'm weak for big strong milf/dilf idk idk.
DickTalia: LISTEN TO ME. TALIA WOULD TREAT HIM RIGHT. THEY BOTH KNOW HOW EMOTIONALLY DEVASTATING IT IS TO LOVE BRUCE. LISTEN TO M- ok aside from that. Talia is someone who tried so hard to be good, to choose to be kind. She loved Bruce because she saw how hard he tried to do good in the world. Her character has gotten considerably colder over time, in huge part due to a certain writer writing about her despite knowing nothing about her, but in universe i try and rationalize it as a growing cynicism stemming from both her father's gradually increasing cruelty and Bruce's failure to support her or commit to her or to even just respect her. She hasn't been shown to have very many people in her life who she can really trust and be close to. She used to have a good relationship with Ra's, she used to have Bruce, she's even lost Damian at this point. She feels like such a lonely character to me. And I think Dick would be able to see that, be able to understand it better than most. He's always had people who loved him, people he could turn to, but he's also ended up perpetually isolated for one reason or another. Dick and Talia both feel to me like characters who are so lonely the further they get in their lives. I could see a silent understanding there. The kind of people who would be able to find solace in simply sharing a space with each other. Neither of them like to talk about what they've been through, I think they'd like to have someone who just gets it. Trauma for trauma, you know?
SlaDickTalia: several angles available here.
1) Dick deserves some sexy older lovers who would wine and dine him and also rail him within an inch of his life and also kill for him. i am not immune to the aesthetics!! to the allure of a hot older duo double teaming their young spitfire partner!!!
2) corruption arc. u know u wanna.
3) Dick's fear of abandonment x the 2 most devoted people on the planet. if they were dating nothing bad would happen to Dick again, Slade and Talia just wouldn't allow that. smth smth, couldn't get rid of them if he tried <3
4) Bruce would hate it and that's always fun :3 not that that's hard tho, Babs is like the only one of Dick's partners that Bruce liked and that's bc he wants to keep it in the family.
5) healing.... sobs...... esp when it comes to feelings around parenthood. Those three have shit to work out and i think having some company would help.
6) They all need more people time but 2/3 of them don't get along with anybody so they're kinda stuck with Dick. that kid will forgive anybody if u bat ur eyelashes and behave well enough. He's also more likely to still see them as people despite everything they've been through, and when you're a military experiment and a semi immortal daughter of an immortal terrorist... It can be hard to find someone who looks at you like you still have a chance at humanity.
7) Slade and Talia playing a Cat Vs Dog type game with Dick in the middle. I think it's funny.
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The Throuple Omegaverse Bat Clan AU
Ok so, I came up with this idea I really want to work with (ah, if only I could make something original out of it *sigh*) and then started thinking about it in Batman/BatFam context to create a new AU and @bluetalesoftheheart helped me bounce some ideas around (such a bad influence, gave me waaay too much encouragement).
I really want to write sooooo much for this AU but there’s so many angles I don’t know where to start.
Anyway, here’s an overview of the general universe, I want to know what people think (and hey, share your ideas, or send prompts if you want me to write small one-shots for this AU).
I might edit this a lot, I’m still in the brainstorming phase. I just need to know if people actually want this, if it needs to be a fic or stay in my little rare-pair shipping poly brain forever.
Batman Throuple Omegaverve AU
Warning: polyamory literally everywhere (that’s the point), a/b/o (obviously), mpreg implied, lot’s of different ot3 rare ships.
I’m focusing a lot on brudick, nightbatcat, talbrudick, etc, but you can just read this for the other angles and other ships of the universe if you don’t like these. Hell, you can just read for the Alfred part!
General AU science:
It’s an A/B/O universe where couples are not a natural thing, instead the social norm are romantic trios (traditionally alpha-beta-omega).
Other types of trios (non alpha-beta-omega) or groups with more or less than three just fall under the queer umbrella regardless of the primary gender of those involved.
Children can only be naturally conceived with three people involved (how you ask? some pseudo-science where threesome sex somehow allows alphas to contribute sperm, betas contribute eggs and omegas contribute an actual womb, either way the kids have DNA from all three parents).
The usual bites and bonds things still apply but with unique variations, so do the scents, heats and ruts things.
Packs and families are not mutually exclusive, packs carry the same emotional weight as found family whether they are related by blood or not, blood relatives aren’t necessarily pack.
Now, on to the actual Bat Fam universe ideas:
Thomas and Martha Wayne were alpha and beta respectively and their omega spouse was actually Alfred Pennyworth-Wayne, who came to the Wayne house as a servant when Martha and Thomas had just started seeing each other and it led to a torrid romance and marriage that the media made a scandal of. Either way, as a result Alfred is one of Bruce’s biological parents.
On the day the Waynes die, Alfred is also there but somehow survives and raises Bruce alone from then on. Alfred isn’t more of a parent to Bruce just because of the blood connection, it’s actually the social angle that changes things- there’s no master-servant barrier there at all, no social hierarchy, no pretense. Alfred inherits part of the Wayne estate as a widower and raises his son, plain and simple.
Alfred still enables Bruce immensely and even encourages the Batman thing, probably even more than in canon, because he too is pretty traumatized by the death of his partners and understand the need for justice.
So Bruce does grow up to become Batman but due to Alfred’s influence and a far more open and loving relationship between them he becomes a different type of person and far less edgy and emotionally distant. Still dark and depressed though because so is Alfred, he did loose his mates after all.
In fact, Alfred takes a much bigger role in the whole vigilante business himself because he’s just as invested as Bruce (but a lot more clear headed and experienced). Instead of Alfred just showing support by being an enabler, he actively participates as an accomplice with his military and espionage background serving to train Bruce and later the robins, he also becomes mission control and a family spy (basically he has a Matches-style character to do undercover work). On the other hand, he’s stricter and able to discipline Bruce and call him out on his bullshit without having to be passive-aggressively polite all the time.
Lot’s of good stuff to create Alfred-centered stories.
Bruce doesn’t become Dick’s guardian, Alfred does!
Single people or queer couples couldn’t adopt at that point (see what I did there?) but being a widower, Alfred had a different legal standing and could take in Dick.
Bruce and Alfred were at the circus when the Graysons die and Alfred is the one that takes Dick in, Bruce has just become Batman and he’s only about 10 years older than Dick so it would have been weird if he had been one to take in Dick.
Bruce and Dick’s relationship starts a little like siblings/pack but is constantly evolving as they both get older.
Later when Jason comes into play, Dick is about 19 and the law had changed so Bruce does in fact adopt Jason.
There’s a lot of gossip and scandal in the media because Bruce is an obvious alpha, the family took in an omega (Dick) and now Bruce is adopting a beta/omega (Jason, not sure about his dynamic yet). The media just connects the dots very poorly assumes Bruce is grooming or abusing these kids or something, which he is obviously not. In fact, they only become robins because they were going to go down a path of violence anyway and Bruce decided to at least give them purpose and train them properly.
The media gossip is used by a new person for nefarious purposes!
Namely, Dick’s long-lost third parent pops up and tries to get custody of Dick. Turns out this person is actually working with the Court of Owls and they want their little Gray Son back. Is it really Dick’s missing third parent? Or is it a CoO fake? That’s the interesting part.
Cue drama and a fight to save Dick from becoming a Talon with the help of a group strong enough to oppose the Owls (League of Assassins).
The most dysfunctional romance arrives.
Talia Al Ghul (beta) agrees to help save Dick because she is in love with Bruce (duh). Bruce, however, is developing feelings for Dick throughout this whole adventure (is it healthy? maybe not at this point) and Dick reciprocates. Talia is attracted enough to Dick that she decides a trio with them might work (and she can get the heir her father wants in the process).
After a victory against the Owls, Damian is born but the trio starts falling apart because Talia wants to raise the baby as an Al Ghul and neither Bruce nor Dick will allow their kid to be an assassin. They share custody and try to make things work for a few years but, ultimately, Talia is selfish and wants both Bruce and Damian but not Dick.
Talia is not a terrible person in this AU. She's actually a pretty good mother and a complex and morally grey person that believes ends justify the means. However, she does antagonize Dick (and manipulates people to get what she wants because that's how she was raised) and she unfortunately defers to Ra's and his orders even when she disagrees with him, but just because she is an antagonist to main characters doesn't mean she's a villain or evil.
Cue the hexagon!
Talia also develops feelings for another person (Deathstroke) and figures her ideal would be a trio with Slade and Bruce (even though that would be an alpha x beta x alpha trio). She tries to convince Slade to help her get Damian back so they can be a family.
Problem is Bruce hates Slade. Bigger problem is Slade does like Talia very much but he also doesn’t like Bruce, instead he’s obsessed with... Dick.
Meanwhile Selina Kyle (beta) has feelings for both Dick and Bruce, and Bruce might reciprocate. Talia is also not completely against Selina if that means getting Bruce (and being rid of Dick).
As for Dick, he loves Bruce, he might like Selina because she balances himself and Bruce out, but he might also like Slade because he has an unhealthy thing for powerful alphas and they have a bit of a past, the only one he doesn’t care for anymore is Talia because he feels used by her and she kinda broke his heart. Either way he honestly just wants to raise his kid in peace at this point.
Bruce has no idea what to do because feelings, and just wishes his precious Dick wasn’t such a trouble magnet.
Cue a goddamn romantic hexagon (because triangles are so old-fashioned).
(Apollo and Midnighter are around to help in this hexagon war full of kidnappings and weird attempts at seduction. They would probably be searching for a new third since their old one passed away like 20 years ago (just going to say Jenny Sparks, ok? And she probably died in labor. Also, Jenny Quantum would totally be their now adult daughter) and they would probably snap Dick up in a heartbeat, but that’s more of a comedic one-sided thing in the background. Personally I’d love to have them run off with Talia’s brother but that’s influenced by my other fic-verse, in this world that would make very little sense. Then again...).
Again, Slade and Talia are not actually awful people, they just work for the wrong side and use the wrong means to achieve what they want. Slade is actually really doting and spoils Damian as much as his own kids (who are kinda freaked out by the whole romantic hexagon going on, specially because Dick is in it), Talia loves Damian but she was raised very strangely by Ra’s so she raises him with what she knows even if it’s not healthy for Damian.
Previous relationships
Because previous relationships give us a wealth of world-building.
Bruce still dates a lot of different people but he’s only involved in 3 serious trios. First he dated Clark and Diana in the early days of the JL. Then he dates Talia and Dick. Finally he ends up with Dick and Selina.
Dick dated Wally and Roy, then he dated Kory and Babs, then Bruce and Talia. Finally Bruce and Selina.
Selina dated a few people too but, like Bruce, only had 3 trios- first Harley and Ivy, then Dinah and Huntress, finally Dick and Bruce.
Other (and future) Bat Pack relationships
-Jason Todd-Wayne (omega) x Koriand’r (alpha) x Roy Harper (beta)
-Tim Drake-Wayne (omega) x Conner Kent (alpha) x Bart Allen (beta)
-Colin Wilkes (beta) x Damian Grayson-Wayne (omega?) x Jon Kent (alpha)
-(temporary because they all went separate ways later) Barbara Gordon (beta) x Helena Bertinelli (alpha) x Dinah Lance (alpha)
-Cass Cain-Wayne (alpha) x Stephanie Brown (omega) x Harper Row (beta)
-Kate Kane (alpha) x Renee Montoya (alpha) x Maggie Sawyer (alpha)
-Alfred Pennyworth-Wayne (omega) x Lucius Fox (beta) x Leslie Thompkins (alpha)??
-Barbara Gordon (beta), Tamara Fox (omega), Luke Fox (beta), Duke Thomas (beta) and Helena Bertinelli (alpha) are in a “single bats” club for now.
EDIT: Ever since I talked to a certain someone I've had Joey Wilson (beta?) x Damian Grayson-Wayne (omega?) x Jon Kent (alpha?) on my brain because can you image how proud Slade would be if his sweetheart son snagging a Bat AND a Super?
EDIT 2: Someone mentioned past Slade/Wintergreen/Adeline and yes, that's how Grant and Joey came to the world (not Rose though).
EDIT 3: Made some minor changes. Still accepting ideas, prompts, questions, etc, for this AU.
Also, Rose Wilson (alpha) would definitely bring some interesting things into this AU as well.
There’s a whole other angle for this universe for the rogues too but it’s so big I’m not sure where to start yet... ^^’
Ask me about the rogues and their ships and stuff if you want.
NOTE: I might had more to this post later, I’m only just now starting this AU.
#batfam#throuple abo au#omegaverse#polyamory#alfred pennyworth#dick grayson#bruce wayne#selina kyle#talia al ghul#slade wilson#damian wayne#brudick#batcat#nightbatcat#brutalia#dicktalia#sladin#joyfire#timkonbart#damijoncoli#and all the other ot3's#nobody is monogamous in this au#because we deserve more polyamorous rep
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Caged Birds Don't Sing
read it on the AO3 at https://ift.tt/2M9FCeS
by Raven_Hallowryn
Dick Grayson has loved Bruce Wayne since he was a teenager but takes a traumatic event to hurtle him into the alpha's arms.
They could have been happy... If life wasn't so hellbent on tearing them apart.
Cue Talia Al Ghul and her nefarious plans.
Will Bruce and Dick survive the test of time? Will all the secrets come to light or stay buried forever?
Words: 5976, Chapters: 1/?, Language: English
Fandoms: Batman - All Media Types, Nightwing (Comics), Batman and Robin (Comics)
Rating: Not Rated
Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Rape/Non-Con
Categories: M/M
Characters: Dick Grayson, Bruce Wayne, Damian Wayne, Jason Todd, Tim Drake, Alfred Pennyworth, Talia al Ghul, Ra's al Ghul, Slade Wilson
Relationships: Dick Grayson/Bruce Wayne, Tim Drake & Dick Grayson & Alfred Pennyworth & Jason Todd & Bruce Wayne & Damian Wayne, Dick Grayson & Damian Wayne
Additional Tags: Brudick - Freeform, mentions of dicktalia, mentions of jasontalia, mentions of brucetalia, Omegaverse, A/B/O, Alpha/Beta/Omega Dynamics, Omega Dick Grayson, Alpha Bruce Wayne, Mpreg, graphic depictions of pregnancy and childbirth, Rape/Non-con Elements, not between brudick tough, talia is not a nice person, deathstroke is not a nice person, sunny dick grayson suffers from anxiety, Hurt/Comfort, Whump, dick suffers a lot, Baby Damian Wayne, Fluff and Smut, Torture, mentions of catalina flores, the tarantula trauma, obviously romani dick, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Autistic Bruce Wayne, Pack Dynamics, these tags are a mess, Tags will be updated
read it on the AO3 at https://ift.tt/2M9FCeS
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Caged Birds Don't Sing
read it on the AO3 at https://ift.tt/2M9FCeS
by Raven_Hallowryn
Dick Grayson has loved Bruce Wayne since he was a teenager but takes a traumatic event to hurtle him into the alpha's arms.
They could have been happy... If life wasn't so hellbent on tearing them apart.
Cue Talia Al Ghul and her nefarious plans.
Will Bruce and Dick survive the test of time? Will all the secrets come to light or stay buried forever?
Words: 5976, Chapters: 1/?, Language: English
Fandoms: Batman - All Media Types, Nightwing (Comics), Batman and Robin (Comics)
Rating: Not Rated
Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Rape/Non-Con
Categories: M/M
Characters: Dick Grayson, Bruce Wayne, Damian Wayne, Jason Todd, Tim Drake, Alfred Pennyworth, Talia al Ghul, Ra's al Ghul, Slade Wilson
Relationships: Dick Grayson/Bruce Wayne, Tim Drake & Dick Grayson & Alfred Pennyworth & Jason Todd & Bruce Wayne & Damian Wayne, Dick Grayson & Damian Wayne
Additional Tags: Brudick - Freeform, mentions of dicktalia, mentions of jasontalia, mentions of brucetalia, Omegaverse, A/B/O, Alpha/Beta/Omega Dynamics, Omega Dick Grayson, Alpha Bruce Wayne, Mpreg, graphic depictions of pregnancy and childbirth, Rape/Non-con Elements, not between brudick tough, talia is not a nice person, deathstroke is not a nice person, sunny dick grayson suffers from anxiety, Hurt/Comfort, Whump, dick suffers a lot, Baby Damian Wayne, Fluff and Smut, Torture, mentions of catalina flores, the tarantula trauma, obviously romani dick, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Autistic Bruce Wayne, Pack Dynamics, these tags are a mess, Tags will be updated
read it on the AO3 at https://ift.tt/2M9FCeS
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#dc memes#dicktalia#taliadick#dick grayson#talia al ghul#he was like that when she found him i swear
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Chapters: 43/?
Fandom: Batman - All Media Types, Nightwing (Comics), Batman and Robin (Comics), DCU
Rating: Explicit
Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Rape/Non-Con, Major Character Death
Relationships: Dick Grayson/Bruce Wayne, Tim Drake & Dick Grayson & Alfred Pennyworth & Jason Todd & Bruce Wayne & Damian Wayne, Dick Grayson & Damian Wayne, Talia al Ghul/Dick Grayson, Dick Grayson & Jason Todd, Dick Grayson & Heretic (DCU), Heretic & Damian Wayne, Talia al Ghul & Damian Wayne, Dusan al Ghul/Dick Grayson
Characters: Dick Grayson, Bruce Wayne, Damian Wayne, Jason Todd, Tim Drake, Alfred Pennyworth, Talia al Ghul, Ra's al Ghul, Slade Wilson, Dusan al Ghul
Additional Tags: Brudick - Freeform, mentions of dicktalia, mentions of jasontalia, mentions of brucetalia, Omegaverse, A/B/O, Alpha/Beta/Omega Dynamics, Omega Dick Grayson, Alpha Bruce Wayne, Mpreg, graphic depictions of pregnancy and childbirth, Rape/Non-con Elements, not between brudick tough, talia is not a nice person, deathstroke is not a nice person, Hurt/Comfort, Whump, dick suffers a lot, Baby Damian Wayne, Fluff and Smut, Torture, mentions of catalina flores, the tarantula trauma, obviously romani dick, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Autistic Bruce Wayne, Pack Dynamics, these tags are a mess, Tags will be updated, mostly dick pov, mentions of arab culture, Romani Culture, all aboard the Dick Grayson pain train, Pregnancy drama, graphic child death, Child Abuse, domestic abuse, well it's domestic abuse from the kid's pov, (i cannot stress this enough- the abuse is not brudick), now with NightGhost, brudick is endgame, PTSD, Depression, Suicidal Thoughts
Series: Part 1 of Caged Birds and Tamed Bats
NEW CHAPTER IS FINALLY OUT!
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"know those scenario where a guy cheats on 2 girls who find out and dump him and hang out with each other instead" HNFJHFKF CRYING NO U R SO RIGHT ABT THIS... they should just raise dami together lol 😭
so real so true my mind is so powerful... im glad ur seeing my vision <3
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(same anon) Oh also I have to tell u that canonically talia & dick Hate each other sm (but like, they secretly have begrudging respect for each other bcs they see the similarity with their devotion coughesptowardsbrucecough)
i am Aware lol, my thoughts about them often hinge on "what if they stopped angsting over bruce and actually got to know each other"
they also kinda. they kinda have the feel of. u know those scenario where a guy cheats on 2 girls who find out and dump him and hang out with each other instead. yeah.
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hiiii my shame is now public <3
Little Princess (JayDickTalia): Dick and Talia have been together for a while now, and Talia thinks it’s only fair to spoil him from time to time, especially when he’s been such a good girl for her. (And she isn’t blind, she sees the way Jason looks at them when he thinks she won’t see. It’d be good for them both to get a reminder of who belongs to who.)
Rating/Warnings: Explicit
#my fics#jaydicktalia#dicktalia#jaydick#jaytalia#be nice to me or ill pass out and cry or smth /light hearted#i havent. written since middle school.#that parts not a joke its been literal years ik my writings clunky n awkward
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Dicktalia for the ship ask because I know you like them, and JayTalia because I like them ;)
Hehehe, dicktalia <3
What made you ship it?
"Wouldnt it be funny if bruces baby mama fucked his boywife"
What are your favorite things about the ship?
They know exactly how much of a disappointment bruce can be as a partner <3 so they get to offer each other compensation for dealing with whatever bruce was doing
Is there an unpopular opinion you have on your ship?
They deserve more than just hatesex!! Talia can be tender!! I want them to spoil each other and find genuine happiness in what was meant to be a spiteful fling <3
And Jaytalia, just for u <3
What made you ship it?
Umm. Mommy? Sorry
What are your favorite things about the ship?
Sorry i just think Talia's hot. That's kind of all I got here.
Is there an unpopular opinion you have on your ship?
Jason was canonically of age and talia was goin thru some rough shit when they slept together in canon, so i really think it was just dubiously consensual at worst
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Step one to proving to ur ex that ur over him: fuck his son
Step two: catch feelings for said son
Step three: court him properly with a variety of gifts and affection
Step four: propose
Step five: ur ex has to walk his son down the isle at ur #girlboss wedding
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