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typologyastro · 1 year

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MBTI & Astrology Observations

🥀 1. Moon/Pluto aspects give off Ni, introverted intuition vibe. Dominant/auxiliary/tertiary Ni users may have Moon/Pluto aspects. They may indicate problems or a strong bond with their mother. Their emotions are intense. I've seen easy Moon/Pluto aspects (Trine, Sextile, Conjunction) are often INFJ, INTJ, ENFJ and ISFP.

Hard Moon/Pluto aspects have to learn to make peace with their intense feelings. One ENTJ I know personally has Moon Opposition Pluto. She has a complicated relationship with her mother and jealous tendency. ENTJs have inferior Fi so it's likely difficult for them to manage their intense feelings. They likely ignore their feelings or explode.

Another INFJ I know in real life has Moon Trine Pluto. His mother is feisty and strong. He loves and admires his mother. Women have big influence on him. He has a healing gift he may not realize in himself.

For example: Fujii Kaze (INFJ, Moon Sextile Pluto), Twice's Mina (INFJ, Moon Sextile Pluto), Madison Beer (ENFJ, Moon Sextile Pluto), Jodie Foster (INTJ, Moon Conjunction Pluto), BTS's Yoongi (INTJ, Moon Sextile Pluto), Avril Lavigne (ISFP, Moon Conjunction Pluto) The Weeknd (ISFP, Moon Conjunction Pluto), Blackpink's Jennie (ISFP, Moon Conjunction Pluto), Billie Eilish (ISFP, Moon Sextile Pluto) , Brad Pitt (ISFP, Moon Trine Pluto), Leonardo DiCaprio (ESFP, Moon Conjunction Pluto), Vanessa Hudgens (ESFP, Moon Trine Pluto)

🥀 2. The next similar indicator is Scorpio Moon for Ni/Se users. I've often seen Ni + Te/Fi users (INTJ, ENTJ, ISFP and ESFP) have this placement. Another ENTJ I know personally has Scorpio Moon. He gives off a dangerous, mysterious and suspicious aura.

My explanation for Moon/Pluto aspects and Scorpio Moon give off strong Ni - introverted intuition is because I associate Ni with Pluto, Fe & Fi with Moon & Neptune.

For example: Epik High's Tablo (INTJ, Scorpio Moon), Lady Gaga (ISFP, Scorpio Moon), Hayden Christensen (ISFP, Scorpio Moon), Avril Lavigne (ISFP, Scorpio Moon), Taylor Monsen (ISFP, Scorpio Moon), Dove Cameron (ISFP, Scorpio Moon), The Weeknd (ISFP, Scorpio Moon), Katy Perry (ISFP, Scorpio Moon), Blackpink's Jennie (ISFP, Scorpio Moon), Blackpink's Lisa (ESFP, Scorpio Moon), Lily-Rose Depp (ISFP, Scorpio Moon), Miley Cyrus (ESFP, Scorpio Moon), Kylie Jenner (ESFP, Scorpio Moon)

🥀 3. Blackpink's Lisa has Venus Trine Pluto. Kendall Jenner has Venus Conjunction Pluto. Blackpink's Jennie has Venus Square Pluto. They are known for their captivating and sexy beauty caused by Venus/Pluto aspects but how the audience feels about each of them can be totally different.

Lisa's passionate dance performances and doll-like appearance stand out in the crowd.

Kendal is the eptimote of how I envision a Venus/Pluto beauty looks like: sharp, tall, dark and mysterious.

Jennie has the most RBF, intimidating and edgy look out of the three. Her reputation is also the most polarizing.

Jennie seems to get hated the most. People mesmerize by Lisa and Kendal's beauty more while Jennie's face both attracts admirers and invokes hatred and jealousy the most. Venus/Pluto beauty generally creates strong impact on people. It's hard to forget their beauty.

It's fascinating to observe how easy and difficult aspects play out in real life. Easy Venus/Pluto aspects are more Venusian and hard Venus/Pluto aspects are more Plutonian.

Kendal is an ISTJ, Jennie is an ISFP and Lisa is an ESFP. They all have a Te/Fi axis.

🥀 4. Dove Cameron was born one day before Blackpink's Jennie and they are both ISFPs and Scorpio Moon. Their chart are almost identical (without knowing their birth time).

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d4rkpluto · 1 year

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𝔢𝔵𝔭𝔩𝔞𝔦𝔫𝔦𝔫𝔤 𝔱𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔶𝔢𝔯𝔰-𝔟𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔤𝔰 𝔱𝔶𝔭𝔬𝔩𝔬𝔤𝔶 𝔦𝔫𝔡𝔦𝔠𝔞𝔱𝔬𝔯

don't be surprised that me someone who is obsessed with archetypes is posting about mbti...but please buckle up for the post because it's a handful, and i'll make the post as easy as possible to understand!

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♇ anyways, [i'll be using sentences that i've learned as well] the mbti is used to understand yourself, the relationships your in along with your personal growth; the mbti is about your cognition which means your intelligence, how you process and understand information.

♇ people need to understand that the typology cannot predict how someone is going to consciously behave, for example, someone sees an intj and the first thing they think is that "omg that person is definitely going to be so emo".

♇ however, the mbti does predict the subconscious micro-expression [which means someone's true emotion] and body language. keep in mind, anyone can change behaviour, so yes, mbti's can change depending on the personal growth of someone, someone's mbti might fully form when they're like a middle aged adult, in my opinion.

♇ the mbti typology believes that we understand information in two ways, which are functions called ⬎

the judging and perceiving functions.

♇ the perceiving function ⟶ understanding information that is experienced first handedly by the person, and putting the information together afterwards.

♇ the judging function ⟶ understanding information without having to experience it first handedly, and putting the information together afterwards or even the same time they come in contact with the information.

♇ everyone judges information by a logical and a rational mindset, along with value based and a honest criteria which is involved with the four modes of cognition [intelligence] everyone has.

↳ and those four modes are:

♇ sensing, intuition, thinking or feeling, which can either be introverted or extroverted. every type has four of the functions [sensing, intuition, thinking or feeling] in descending order, meaning from strongest to weakest. which also refers to how much someone uses four of the functions they have; and the plethora of the descending combinations gives rise to the 16 types.

♇ let's begin with the perceiving functions ⬎

which include SE, SI, NE AND NI.

SE ⟶ extroverted sensing.

SI ⟶ introverted sensing.

NE ⟶ extroverted intuition.

NI ⟶ introverted intuition.

♇ beginning with the sensory functions [SE AND SI].

⟶ with SE which is the extroverted sensing.

⟶ extroverted sensing [SE] react to events first handedly, [like their own experience], before they believe or understand in something.

⟶ they see things as it is and don't overthink the answer in front of them. for example, they're the type to look at a maths question and think that all "solutions/problem solving" can lead to the same answer.

⟶ people with extroverted sensing are action-oriented and need to experience things themselves in order to understand it, like i have mentioned before.

⟶ onto with SI which is introverted sensing.

⟶ introverted sensing [SI] react to events as patterns they have seen before, for example, if someone has already seen two individuals who belong to loud and violent houses react to situations in a defensive way, and the [SI] individual meets another person who has the same background as the other two people they have communicated before and notice that the new individual behaves the same way. they'll understand that people from abusive households are normally protective over themselves out of trauma.

⟶ [SI] individuals build personal associations to data, they'll look at something like "this solution is bad" and "this solution is good" because of the outcomes they have seen or heard before; which is different than a [SE] native, who would rather want to interact with the solution before they come up with an answer. [SI] people who are selective and consistent; they only want information that is useful for them.

⟶ they're people who go by previous examples, and are likely people who can identify patterns in large source of information, and dont need first hand experience to know when something is true.

♇ now with the intuition functions [NE AND NI]

⟶ starting with NE which is extroverted intuition.

⟶ extroverted intuition [NE] are people who see countless of possibilities with their intuition, every probability or likelihood they see they will take it into account. they're the "anything is possible" group.

⟶ [NE] individuals see possible connections, which causes their work to grow more bigger and bigger as they're expansive people, like [SE], [NE] natives have no specific preferences they'd like to work on, and find every idea useful. these natives tend to be very action-oriented as well.

⟶ they are people who need to first handedly go through situations for them to make the dots/connections; which could sometimes not give them the upper hand when they're trying to solve something compared to an [SI] who will already make the patterns due to events they have read or heard before.

⟶ now onto NI which is introverted intuition.

⟶ introverted intuition [NI] are people who could be perceived as people who arent as expressive to situations openly, but will feel a lot on the inside. they're the type of people to form a logical concept from information that is relevant or they think is relevant.

⟶ like [SI] the [NI] individuals only see information or patterns that makes sense to them and and they do care about other people's thoughts and additional information within their research.

⟶ they're specific and are likely to understand things easily while finding further links and connections. they're reflective about the information they gather, so when they do receive details, they'll see if it makes sense or not.

⟶ people can either have SE & NI or SI & NE; it can never be "i have SE & SI or i have NI & NI".

information about perceiving functions finished.

♇ moving onto judging functions.

which includes TE, TI, FE AND FI. ⬎

TE ⟶ extroverted thinking.

TI ⟶ introverted thinking.

FE ⟶ extroverted feeling.

FI ⟶ introverted feeling.

♇ beginning with the thinking functions [TE AND TI]

⟶ with TE which is extroverted thinking

⟶ they're people who most likely focus on their own judgement, they will decide what makes sense to them and what doesnt make sense to them; what is logical and what is not, which will normally be based on their own experiences with the issue. they're focused on the end product, so they'll likely do the same thing to see if the outcome changes.

⟶ they think of ideas that are effective, and are objective to the route they're taking, they're people who like information that can be proven to them. if they can't see it, they wont believe it. it's their basic understanding of logic.

⟶ [TE] individuals can be considered as quite annoying because they normally don't listen until they have to go through a specific situation all the time/or go through much life lessons to understand what to or not to do.

⟶ with TI which is introverted thinking

⟶ [TI] individuals like to make everything make sense to them, which could be time consuming because for example, they would like to learn something so simple, will learn it, but during the process they would want to know every step, even the irrelevant steps which makes it time consuming.

⟶ they can only go forward in life when they do understand something, they're people who are likely to be anxious when they dont know information they think is relevant to them, compared to [TE] natives who wouldnt mind learning the details when they're going through a route.

⟶ [TI] people are considered less impactive than [TE] folks as they're people who only want to learn the depth of a topic and not other possibilities that can surround the topic.

⟶ onto FE which is extroverted feeling

⟶ [FE] natives judge on what they see on the outside, for example they're the type of people to judge people based on their appearance or based on their first impressions compared to other functions. they wouldnt really be like "oh i just need to know the depth of this person" if someone presents themselves as rude, the [FE] person will always think of the other person as insolent, no redemption.

⟶ people who have [FE] are usually those who are mainly like "it can only either be these two options" nothing else. they're normally like that when they experience something physically first and if their mind thinks something is negative they will always perceive that thing is negative while deeming the opposite thing of that instrument positive.

⟶ they're people who are clear about their intentions so other people can understand what they are striving for. could sometimes lead to them failing since people will always know what they're up to.

⟶ onto FI which is introverted feeling

⟶ [FI] people judge the weight of something after they deeply understand the matter. and when they understand the deepness to an information they decide what part of the information is useful for them.

⟶ like the [TI] system, [FI] is very specific and particular about everything, like they cant just go on with life knowing 2+2 equals 4, they'll need to understand why 2+2 equals 4.

⟶ evidently, they're people who take the time to understand something which can sometimes take it longer for them to understand a subject compared to other people but when they finally understand it, they become very efficient to the subject and find ways to simplify it for other people so everyone else can learn.

⟶ people can either have TE & FI or TI & FE; it can never be "i have TE & TI or i have FI & FE".

⟶ information about the judging function finished.

⟶ TWO THINKING AXIS ⬎

♇ SE AND NI ⟶ see the issue and would like to explore different possibilities of it or live through it.

♇ SI AND NE ⟶ see the issue and would rather focus on that single issue before they apply it to other things.

TWO JUDGING AXIS

♇ TE AND FI ⟶ see the problem and would solve it with how other people might've solved it before, but would solve the problem with multiple tools they'll think that can work on the issue.

♇ TI AND FE ⟶ see the problem and would rather solve it with a tool that might've worked in other scenarios. wouldnt think to use other tools if they know the one they have right now is useful.

SO...WHAT MAKES AN MBTI...AN MBTI?

♇ the order of the functions i have mentioned: SE, SI, NE AND NI that belong to the thinking functions and TE, TI, FE AND FI that belong to the judging functions make the mbti!

♇ including what function is the strongest to what function is the weakest.

♇ the axis pairs will either be the first and fourth function or the second and third function.

⟶ SE AND NI being function pairs.

⟶ SI AND NE being function pairs.

⟶ TE AND FI being function pairs.

⟶ TI AND FE being function pairs.

♇ for example, let's use ISTP ⬎

⟶ I = introversion.

⟶ S = sensing.

⟶ T = thinking.

⟶ P = perceiving.

↳ the first two functions determine the middle letters of the MBTI TYPE CODE.

♇ the functions within the ISTP TYPE CODE

⟶ TI SE NI FE ⬎

♇ the TI AND SE within the ISTP function make up for the two missing middle letters in the type code: I _ _ P because they are the first two functions!

⟶ because TI is the _ _ T _ in ISTP because it is about introverted thinking.

⟶ and SE is the _ S _ _ in ISTP because it is about the extroverted sensing.

"but pluto what makes up for the first letter in the code?"

♇ good question! what makes up for the first letter in the code is the second letter in the strongest function and the strongest function for ISTP is TI and what is the second letter for TI? It's "I" which causes the function to now become from _ S T P to I S T P.

♇ if the TI was a TE it would commence the function to become E S T P.

"okay but what about the last letter in a type code?"

♇ you'll have to look back at the first extroverted function in the type code for your mbti, and for ISTP it is ⟶ TI SE NI FE. the first extroverted function in the type code is SE which means EXTROVERTED SENSING.

♇ SE belongs to the perceiving function which implies that the last letter for I S T _ will be I S T P.

♇ if the SE was replaced and FE was the first extroverted function for the type code, the type would have changed from I S T P to I S T J. because FE belongs to the judging function!

↳ lets use an extroverted mbti now.

⟶ E = extroversion.

⟶ N = intuition.

⟶ F = feeling.

⟶ J = judging.

♇ the functions within ENFJ TYPE CODE are ⬎

⟶ FE NI NE TI ⬎

♇ the FE AND NI within the ENFJ function make up for the two missing middle letters in the type code: E _ _ J because they are the first two functions!

⟶ because FE is the _ _ F _ in ENFJ because it is about extroverted feeling.

⟶ and NI is the _ N _ _ in ENFJ because it is about the introverted sensing.

"but pluto what makes up for the first letter in the code?"

♇ good question! what makes up for the first letter in the code is the second letter in the strongest function and the strongest function for ENFJ is FE and what is the second letter for FE? It's "E" which causes the function to now become from _ N F J to E N F J.

♇ if the FE was a FI it would commence the function to become I N F J.

"okay but what about the last letter in a type code?"

♇ you'll have to look back at the first extroverted function in the type code for your mbti, and for ENFJ it is ⟶ FE SI NE TI. the first extroverted function in the type code is FE which means EXTROVERTED FEELING.

♇ FE belongs to the judging function which implies that the last letter for E N F _ will be E N F J.

♇ if the FE was replaced and NE was the first extroverted function for the type code, the type could have changed from ENFJ to ENFP. because NE belongs to the perceiving function!

♇ i hope this helped you guys understand how the myers briggs typology works even more! this is just me opening up before i post about the mbtis!

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elaho · 4 months

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This is the final/touched-up version of the post I made a while ago, along with some story and character lore. I've been thinking hard about what kind of story I want to tell with this graphic novel since I really don't want to put my time and effort into something that isn't meaningful to me.

Story Time: I recently broke up with my INFJ boyfriend of 7 months this December. He was an immature INFJ and it was an unhealthy relationship where I was consistently neglected and my Fi ("Introverted Feeling"), including personal feelings, were not taken seriously or valued.

It was a necessary break-up, but it unearthed a lot of past trauma I was subjected to from *unhealthy* Fe ("Extroverted Feeling") users throughout my life. The realization of my resentment towards high Fe users has brought up a lot of mixed feelings, including both shame for hating Fe and fear of being rejected by it.

I hadn't known Fe to be anything but abusive or manipulative and I had believed firmly that I could never be fully embraced or understood by Fe users because I was too "dark", "depressing", or "anti-social" just for being myself and expressing my Fi.

That is, until recently...

(To be continued with my next post) ;)

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thequirkychameleon · 2 years

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Feeling too much?

As an INFJ, I first noticed that I started developing my auxiliary or secondary function, extroverted feeling (Fe) a couple of years ago when I started university, especially during fresher’s week. There was a period when I thought I had converted to an extrovert as I had never seeked out friends prior to this, nor did I care about doing so. My friends from school were made by ‘accident’ as I like to call it or ‘destiny’ or whatever but the point is, I was never the one to first initiate friendship and I was alright with this.

Anyway, I really enjoyed my ability to connect with others and show empathy through Fe and feel less robotic and more like a people person, which I do consider myself as. However it has recently come to my attention while studying the cognitive functions that this Fe might actually be more harmful to my identity and has pushed me into this people pleasing mode and I realise that I hardly state my opinions due to fear of conflict with others. Also through socialising with Fi doms I have come to the realisation that I am not actually in tune with my feelings at all while completely being in tune with the feelings of others and prioritising this over my own. This makes decision making for even trivial things so difficult e.g. deciding where to eat with friends, hence why I also really enjoy my alone time as I am free from this people pleasing nature and feel less exhausted. Decision making even on my own decisions takes time and can be difficult as I always need validation even though i realise that I always stick to the one decision I made before validation.

I have also recently asked myself the question, what are my hobbies? What are my interests? What do I like? What am I passionate about? This leaves me in an identity crisis whenever I have time and space alone, hence why I subconsciously always try to be productive with my time so I don’t end up in this sad rabbit hole. If I don’t think about it, I think I am happy at least. This is why I also hate icebreakers when you do group activities at uni or interviews or when you first meet someone and tell them about yourself and you don’t actually know who you really are but can go on for hours about everyone else. Also, I call myself a chameleon for this reason, as I can blend in with others and change myself subconsciously to fit others and this even happens with my accent depending on who I’m talking to. I’m aware this can come across as fake but I do it subconsciously and I guess a positive is that as a medical student, it makes me relatable when I’m with patients in the hospital as I can communicate in their manner and fit their needs which helps build rapport.

What do my fellow INFJs think of this? Is this relatable?

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mbti-enemies · 2 years

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just isfj and infj, who like to observe other people, keep catching each other's eyes because they attempt to observe at the same time and then just end up holding eye contact

#i felt your gaze #queue: you looked at me first! NO YOU #infj #isfj #extroverted feeling #fe

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earthling-wolf · 9 months

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Adaptive: agreeable Fe

Universal Love / Compassion

Although anyone may come to this conclusion, adaptive types more often leads the individual to believe "we are all one family", one humanity and we all have an intrinsic connection to one another as well as a shared narrative of joy/pain and a moral obligation to our fellow man. It believes more powerfully in the ability of everyone to make a difference in the world, and to be a force towards that difference. It believes that if everyone lent a helping hand to everyone else, we would have no need for wars or conflict. Nobody would be left out, and by the simple fostering of good-will, solutions would arise to any social problem. This translates more generally into good-samaritanism. Taken to a deeper level, this can mean an advocacy for global peace and democracy. Adaptive types will tend to prioritize the group over any one individual, and will also see it fair and necessary for resources to be distributed more or less evenly. If called forth to serve, it will serve. It will heed the call both to satisfy a personal value of goodness, and to affirm their character and trustworthiness to the collective. Acts very much define this facet, and an adaptive attitude feels one only truly cares if they act out that care in deeds and words. This also leads adaptive person to be very verbal, and perhaps overly saturated, with its expressiveness in order to ensure the sentiment is communicated.

Adaptation

As the name implies, another quality of adaptiveness is adaptation -- specifically the adjustment of oneself in order to meet any necessary social conditions. An adaptive attitude carefully tracks the energies of the social environment and intuits what is the acceptable protocol, then proceeds to blend into that energy. The adaptive person may wear many faces and will switch between faces depending on the crowd they're in, in order to seamlessly adjust to the needs of each setting. They may excel at Pickup Artistry and at reading the nuances of social and sexual energies. And while this can help them create a highly prosperous social network, it can lead to a somewhat vague or diminishing sense of self, as they slowly start to lose their center to the many personas they have created for themselves. But adaptive Fe's adaptability is not limited to the building of personas, and can also be motivated to adjust as is necessary for their own ethical convictions. If one's personal relationships are suffering from frictions stemming from their own behaviors or habits, adaptive people will take measures to correct themselves; going through transformations of character. Whenever they discover areas for improvement, they may remake themselves according to a higher image. The adaptive person will feel that they are prioritizing the ideal (often God) above themselves, and submitting themselves to the requirements of the ideal.

Politeness

Following from the aforementioned, adaptiveness is prone to manifest politeness and the automatic assimilation of a social programming or etiquette in order to maintain their rapport. Adaptive types will feel a strong anxiety whenever they are out-of-step, and this feedback quickly shapes their behavior in an unconscious way. "That which will offend" is not said and in some cases not even consciously thought. It becomes necessary to provide everyone with a smile and to be on good terms with all people. Adaptive people may not be able to stand the thought of having enemies or being disliked. This can be terribly debilitating and restricting as adaptive person may feel they are always walking on eggshells. They may secretly resent having to always yield and not show their true opinions, even if this self-regulation was their own choice. It may even be the case that non-standard or non-polite forms of expression are indeed socially acceptable given the right execution, however the adaptive person will not be the most daring to risk experimenting with alternative outcomes and will feel most safe following a known set of words and expressions. Over time this can lead to psychological distortions and to a splitting of personality due to how the darker aspects of directiveness have been repressed and not given true representation or validation. Words are minced; criticisms are withheld. And this fragmentation of self can lead to intense volatility when the person falls under stress.

-Under Stress

Social Cowardice

Adaptiveness often manifests as cowardice; an inability to confront problems, challenges, difficult situations or people. The most straightforward expression of this is lying. Rather than saying "no" to something one is being asked to do, an adaptive person will lie and say they will do it even when they know they will fail at it later. They may downplay the negatives of something in order to retain a positive image, or aggrandize their accomplishments in order not to lose face. When asked if they still love someone, they will say yes to prevent hurt feelings in the immediate moment. When confronted and asked to explain, they'll say nothing is wrong or will make excuses. This cowardice can become very distressing and troubling to their life, sabotaging many relationships both personal and professional. They may not consider that they are in fact damaging the situation rather than helping it by their concealment and dishonesty. However, they will rationalize their actions as being for the greater good even though fear is the truer motivator in them rather than a genuine wish to aide the situation or the people involved.

Martyrdom

Another negative effect of adaptiveness is martyrdom. Like the aforementioned cowardice, adaptiveness will often not have the spine to speak up for its own needs and will be prone towards quietly taking abuse. They may be paid a very low salary at work and never ask for a raise, or ever complain about their position. They may take on all church responsibilities and bury themselves in obligations to everyone else. If this behavior is neurotic, they will work themselves down to an early grave for not knowing when to stop giving. At other times, their own ideology may persuade them into this martyr behavior as they sacrifice themselves for a greater cause. But adaptive Fe's martydom is not always a result of heroism; it can at times be just as much a result of shame and failure. The adaptive person may not feel they have the personal value or right to assert themselves due to a feeling of low self worth. This can cause them to take on the attitude that they "deserve" what is happening to them; that it is fair and that they're in the wrong. In severe cases this can lead to suicide where what seemed like a perfectly kind, beautiful, polite woman is found dead from the excessive toll she incurred for living a life of emotional debt to herself.

Making others Dependent

A different result that might arise from an adaptive attitude is an encompassing feeling of importance in the eyes of others as nurturer. The ego becomes fixed in an identity as "provider" and "supporter", giving their life a purpose. In order to feel valued, adaptive individuals may want to make others dependent on them in order for them to feel they have some greater meaning to others or the world. If she is a mother, then she will be possessive and use her children as her reasons for existing. This expression of adaptive qualities crosses over with what Jung called the dark mother archetype; the over-protective woman that suffocates and consumes her children. This expression will work to unconsciously make it difficult for the other person to leave them. While outwardly wishing for the freedom of their dependents, their actions will speak otherwise. In a million subtle ways, they will secure their value to the party in question. They may say "we can use my car, you don't have to buy your own" and thus ensure their place in the morning drive and its conversation, as well as pave the way towards a more difficult emancipation. The same will happen in romantic affairs. In its worse form, this obsession with the dependent party can lead to jealousy. Other friendships or connections are discouraged or even prohibited, isolating the individual beneath the adaptive person’s faint smile.

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robcognitivepersonality · 5 months

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The truth bearing of Fe dominant

Remember this about functions: If you lead by the dominant function, you are led by the inferior function.

ENFJs and ESFJs are driven by their Introverted Thinking (Ti), and they use Extraverted Feeling (Fe) as the means to express Ti. That makes them logically driven people. This is different from other Fe's of other types. They interact with the world via Fe based on their Ti laws and principles. They seek the truth, live by the truth, promote the truth. They can live so logically and objectively they're willing to ignore their own feelings and opinions. They see feedback from others are more objective (read more valuable).

We've always heard how Ti is like having this one single truth or theory of everything. Ti-domimants like to build and model their own, Fe-dominants promote it. Truth sets people free, the world is better off if we understand more about it. They can even be evangelical about that. Harmony is when everyone's unified by that one Ti truth—for everyone to agree on something and fall in line.

The typical descriptions of ENFJs and ESFJs are sensing other people's emotions. But again, Fe is just the means to promote Ti. Many of us picture them as social people pleasers when they’re actually ego managers enforcing logical rules and convincing others to follow them. So one way to reword that is typically ENFJs and ESFJs have learned to be good with people and emotions in order to find sensible ways to instill truth in people. Fe is the utility and creativity to inform emotional human beings.

A practical example is being a teacher teaching math in grade school. Arithmetic is irrefutable truth in the practical sense, and we're better off knowing about it. Some of us might *feel* discouraged when we don't get it, and the Fe-dominant teacher can help us sort our feelings around and help us better intake the information.

But it’s not like Fe-dominants figured everything out nor have the necessary knowledge to make themselves useful in the first place. They study. A lot. That’s what Ti Oppositional means—To proactively research and acquire knowledge for Fe to shape the world. The best teachers make the best students. Learn to follow before you lead. More than any other type, Fe-dominants put a lot of pressure on themselves to ensure they’re in the position of knowing what they’re doing. If they were insecure about one thing, it’d be losing that credibility. There’s motivation to go beyond competence, and be the embodiment of excellence.

Competence is meeting performance expectations, excellence is putting a face on it.

So that introduces many ways an Fe-dominant can be:

The more extraverted ones can get into more combative situations where people may not agree with their Ti. They'll try to hammer in and talk some logical sense into them.

The more introverted ones are rather private with what they believe in, they might see Ti as principles to live by on a personal level. And would only share their thoughts if those around are willing to listen.

The more anxious ones feel like they believe in something that people might disagree on and might get volatile about, so they keep it to themselves.

The more agreeable ones tend to operate safely with information that everyone already agrees with. Everyone likes humor, everyone likes music for example.

There are infinitely more, these are just what I can come with. Just remember that there's a catch with Ti, in that it's actually quite subjective. But ENFJs and ESFJs can get too caught up with it thinking it's objective and that people should look at it as such.

#esfj #enfj #introverted thinking #extroverted feeling

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notanotherinfjblog · 1 year

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Fe and overprotectiveness

It’s so funny to realise that as I grow older and grow more into my auxiliary Fe, this one annoying part of high Fe that I’ve witnessed in so many ESFJs throughout my life that I like to call aggressive overprotectiveness ... has been slumbering within me all this time as well.

Like, you expect me to not get mad when I meet INFP to get some ice cream late in the afternoon, only to hear that that’s the first time he’s eaten anything that day? Doesn’t matter that I frequently forget meals myself, still makes me want to spoon-feed him like an infant. And you expect me to not get mad when ENTJ tells me he’s feeling a bit sick and almost collapsed on the stairs on the way up to his office, only to learn that two hours later (when he should have learned his lesson!!!!), he took the stairs again instead of the elevator? Keep doing that, boy, and I’ll have to break your knees to stop you and take proper care of you myself.

I’ve always hated it when my ESFJ mother/aunt/friends babied me saying things like “Is that jacket warm enough? Put a scarf on! Right now!!” or “Did you drink enough yet today? I’ll get you some water. Drink it, child. Now, while I’m looking!” etc. etc. because I always thought I was capable enough to take care of myself (which is a lie), but now I look at all these idiots in my life that are just as bad at taking care of themselves as I am and now I have to actively stop myself from shifting into mother hen mode, too. Heartbreaking. I mean, it’s nice to know that I actually can get angry. I’ve always had my doubts if I was capable of that emotion. Turns out I am.

#i'd get mad at my sensor friends too but they aren't such idiots they know how to take care of themselves #i'm leaning so much into my fe lately i suddenly learn so much about myself #met an extremely nervous esfj recently and learned that i have a big sister mode as well despite never actually having been one #but my entire being just gets completely overrun by fe and i go 'give me your hand child i'll show you the way don't be afraid i love you'#and i swear if i catch entj in the office at 9pm AGAIN i'm gonna start throwing hands #doesn't matter that i only catch him there that late because i myself am still there and yes i know how hypocritical that is #but I'M allowed to mess up my life HE is NOT i won't allow it #mbti #fe #extroverted feeling #infj #enfj #isfj #esfj #high fe

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trebleknight · 11 months

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#infp #mbti #small youtube channel #myers briggs #16 personalities #cognitive functions #ESFJ #Introverted feeling #extroverted feeling #introvert vs extrovert #trebleknight #treble knight #Youtube

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theomnicode · 1 year

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I've thought about third eye and it being a manifestation of seer-like abilities in OPM that stems from intuition, where the character is able to read body language and read and predict enemy movement and practically predict the future in Saitama's case because his intuition is his dominant cognitive function...it is said about the infj mbti personality type that they basically have psychic-like abilities and funnily enough, their superpower would probably be telepathy/mind control.

So I thought I'd give an example of how introverted intuition and extroverted feeling actually works irl, just for fun. And how a person is able to map the world around them in future-perspective. WC readers know what's coming up, so...

So my SO was sitting on my unsteady gaming chair and he had lager on my mousepad and my comp table has one of those pullable keyboard boards. He was playing splatoon 3 on my switch and he was getting agitated because comp games weren't going too well.

I know him so I know his reactions, but I could also easily predict what was about to happen, just based on that agitation and the fact that he had put the lager on my pullable board, which if you bump, it would bump the lager down.

I did not say anything to warn him, because if you're self-conscious, such behaviour of "this should be done that way because I just know something will happen" could easily be seen as nagging, pointless perfectionism and holier than thou attitude at times.

Insecurities btw.

Hindsight is 20/20 and so, 5 minutes later, he reacted exactly as I foresaw. He teetered unsteadily on my chair and his leg bumped the board and the lager fell upside down, though magically missed my mouse and computer.

Easy to predict I suppose, especially because I know him.

Now a bit more abstract one.

Today at work when I was carrying my tray of food cuz my new workplace has lunch restaurant, a customer slowly juked in front of me and just walked normally, but my first somewhat conscious thought process was:

"He did not see me behind him/he's not aware of me, I best hold my tray in preparation if he might accidentally bump into me."

So I walked normally to my seat and whadduja know, just as I was in position next to him, he suddenly started taking his coat off and straightened his hand and bumped me with that hand.

But I was already subconsciously prepared for something to happen, just not exactly what since intuition often works in the approximates, because I was aware that he was not aware of me, so I was able to still hold my tray and nothing flew off and thankfully he bumped into me and not my tray holding food. He apologized to me and I just went to my seat and ate my food and thought nothing of it.

Intuition is often termed "gut-feeling", but it should not be confused with instinct.

If any of this sounds weird...well now you know why Saitama doesn't wanna talk about his powers or why it would seem that some of his decision making seems completely out there LOL. If he even consciously knows about them.

Such as "just knowing" that if he did this and that, the ship he was surfing on would get into a good position to protect the heroes and "just knowing" they would be unharmed when the centipede carcass fell, because he could predict where it would land. Within his sensing abilities ofc.

And why being future oriented and relying on intuition can sometimes be costly when reality and present time comes knocking at the door, if you rely on intuition too much and not extroverted sensing, which is the weakest cognitive function. Thinking you know everything that is going to happen.

As to why they're manifesting more strongly during Garou fight…it is a stress reaction to MA arc.

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"Oh man my house is on fire, why did this happen?"

(Hilariously enough, there is a house on fire OVA reference.)

He seemed to be showing difficulty accessing his intuition after he came back from the future, which seems understandable, because he stopped trusting in that, so he attempted to gauge what was happening in the present.

#opm #one punch man #opm meta #irl #saitama #infj #introverted intuition #extroverted feeling #stress reaction #Youtube

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rainytypology · 1 year

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ATEEZ Yeosang MBTI Analysis

- INTP -

An in-depth analysis of an idol's MBTI type. Based on my opinion and observations, may change later. Not an expert.

MBTI: INTP (Ti - Ne - Si - Fe)

Dom: Ti - Introverted Thinking

A judging function that uses subjective thinking and logic to make the most rational decisions

Yeosang is known for his bluntness, which is honestly the most Ti dom thing ever. He admits this himself, even saying the members are scared of his honesty. He isn't purposely mean though - Ti doms are just straightforward. They often don't see the point in sugarcoating if they see something wrong/irrational. Ti wants the truth always.

Aux: Ne - Extroverted Intuition

A perceiving function that creates new ideas through connections and patterns in the environment

His Ti - Ne shined in ep 5 of the Salary Lupin series. The way he thought of the theory of MPD being an obsessive lover of San and of Seonghwa being genderfluid was quite astounding. He connected the details so well that it was highly convincing. Although he was wrong, it was still impressive that he managed to come up with that (even if it was given to him by some sort of script - I doubt it would've been that descriptive). He even has a witty sense of humor that I've noticed in high Ne users (e.g when members were wondering about Woo's apple watch model and Yeosang proceeded to put a literal apple on his own wrist, calling it an old model).

Tert: Si - Introverted Sensing

A perceiving function that is focused on the internal sensations of the body. Prefers familiarity and internal structure

Yeosang seems comfortable keeping some sort of routine (e.g working out). He's quick at picking up choreo and can dance correctly not too long after, making him a perfect lead dancer. He likely has a good eye for detail.

Inf: Fe - Extroverted Feeling

Extroverted Feeling places importance on the values of others and group harmony. However, Yeosang is known to be quite blunt. He isn't rude on purpose, he's just honest (which seems to be a lot of IxTP's problem). A higher Fe position would likely sugarcoat or phrase their words carefully so that they still receive a positive reaction in the end.

For Yeosang, it seems he struggles with that. Like the time he was having some issues with Wooyoung, he didn't know how to talk about it. He didn't even want to bring up the issue for fear of disrupting peace. However, it ended up slipping out anyways accidentally on live. A lot of Fe inferior don't really know how to face issues they have with others properly. How to bring it up, the apropriate timing and setting, etc so they may end up having an emotional outburst.

He also tends to keep things to himself, only going to Hongjoong when he was struggling.

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Why he's not an ISFP (Fi - Se - Ni - Te) or ISFJ (Si - Fe - Ti - Ne):

I don't think he's an ISFP since I don't see him use ISFP's functions at all. San is an ISFP and comparing the two, they're completely different. Of course not all ISFPs are the same, but Yeosang does not have a dominant/auxiliary feeling function at all.

Or an ISFJ...although same functions as INTP, just different order, I don't think he's a Si dom or Fe aux. He definitely does not seem Ne inferior.

ISFPs: San, SF9 Youngbin and Yoo Taeyang, BTS Jungkook

ISFJs: Seonghwa, SNSD Taeyeon and Yoona, TXT Soobin

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typologyastro · 1 year

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Planets & Functions

Disclaimer:

These are my current observations. I'm aware I need to observe more to improve my understanding of the connection between planets and functions. I deduce the main theme I've seen similarly in both then match the planets and functions accordingly. There are 10 planets and 8 functions so there will be some overlaps. I tried my best to match their essence together. I hope you like reading these because I have fun connecting! It's a fun way to learn cognitive functions.

You can be strong in mutiple planets but we focus on your strongest planet(s) or influence hence your type or dominant/auxiliary function(s) is most likely associated with those planet(s). You can be influenced by mutiple planets and the lesser influence (the influence may still be strong no matter what) may be associated with your lower functions (auxiliary, tertiary, inferior).

Easy aspects (trine, sextile, conjunction) work like dominant/auxiliary/tertiary functions and hard aspects (square, opposition, conjunction) work like tertiary/inferior functions.

Focus on aspects, houses, signs, etc. to know your influence is associated with which function(s).

For example: you have strong Mars, Moon and Pluto. Mars is the strongest, Moon second and Pluto last. You may be an ESFP (Mars: Se; Moon: Fi or Fe; Pluto: Ni, Fi & Te). It's just a rough example to predict your type. I don't claim its accuracy since this is just an observation. Overall it's for entertainment purposes so have fun!

🟤 Saturn: Si

I associate Si - introverted sensing with Saturn. It's an easy connection because these two are very similar. They are both about hard work, stability, conservation, tradition, etc. I notice dominant/auxiliary Si and Ni users or J types (ISTJ, ISFJ, INTJ, INFJ, ESTJ, ESFJ, ENTJ, ENFJ) have strong Saturn or Earth influence in the chart. They are blessed by Saturn. I'm jealous because I have inferior Si and a weak Saturn. You may wonder why dom/aux Ni users may have a strong Saturn. It's because our chart is a combination of lots of influences. One placement doesn't purely mean you are a certain type. It just means you have strong Saturn influence, but you may have other stronger influences (for example, Pluto or Mars) that make you another type. Descriptions are overlapping. J types in general prefer to plan so they may have strong Saturn or/and Earth influence. But Si is Saturn closest archetype, not Ni for the above reason. ISTJ is the closest to Saturn due to having auxiliary Te that is more tough, masculine and fatherly. ISFJ with auxiliary Fe is more warm, motherly and Moon-liked.

Color: brown

The most possible type: ISTJ

Other possible types: ISFJ, INTJ, INFJ, ESTJ, ESFJ, ENTJ, ENFJ

Honorable functions: Ni, Te

⚪️ Uranus & Jupiter: Ne

I associate Ne - extroverted intuition with Uranus, Jupiter second. Ne and Uranus are similar in so many ways. They are both about unorthodoxy, unpredictability, open mindedness, qurikiness, futurism, freedom, etc. Ne is the opposite of Si, like Aquarius comes after Capricorn. Dominant/auxiliary Ne users (ENTP, ENFP, INTP, INFP) usually have strong Uranus. Dominant/auxiliary Se users may also have strong Uranus in a lesser extend or P types (ENTP, ENFP, INTP, INFP, ESTP, ESFP, ISTP, ISFP) in general. P types prefer to go with the flow, are more adaptable and love freedom so they may have strong Uranus or/and Air influence. ENTP is the closest to Ne due to having auxiliary Ti that is more detached, partial and logical and tertiary Fe is more humanistic. ENFP with auxiliary Fi is more passionate and personal.

Color: white, sky blue

The most possible type: ENTP

Other possible types: ENFP, INTP, INFP, ESTP, ESFP, ISTP, ISFP

Honorable functions: Se

I associate Ne - extroverted intuition with Jupiter because they are both about optimism, fairness, foreignism, theory, philosophy, etc. Dominant/auxiliary Ne and Se users or P types (ENTP, ENFP, INTP, INFP, ESTP, ESFP, ISTP, ISFP) in general may have strong Jupiter because they all love adventures & traveling. I think Ne is a bit more closer to Jupifer than Se because Ne is theoretical and philosophical like Jupiter while Se is hands-on and practical. Among the two dominant Ne users, ENFP may be closer to Jupiter because they can be more optimistic due to not having auxiliary Ti that structures dominant Ne in ENTP. ENFP is also more stubborn, untamed, honest and idealistic due to their auxiliary Fi.

Color: beige? I don't know lol help me pick a color.

The most possible type: ENFP

Other possible types: ENTP, INTP, INFP, ESTP, ESFP, ISTP, ISFP

Honorable functions: Se

🔴 Mars: Se

I associate Se - extroverted sensing with Mars. They are all about drive, action, competitiveness, agressiveness, passion, bravery, pioneer, impulsiveness, athletics, wildness, confidence, sexiniess, etc. Dominant/auxiliary Se users (ESTP, ESFP, ISTP, ISFP) have strong Mars or Fire influence in the chart. Dominant/auxiliary Se users are hot, athletic, blunt and child-like like Mars and Fire placements. They have no filter. Nothing fears or stops them. They can't be controlled. They master following what they want. They're doers. They learn by doing. ESTP is the closest to Mars due to having auxiliary Ti that is less emotional and more tough. Mars is not based on emotions. ESFP with auxiliary Fi gives a touch of softness and is Venus/Neptune-liked.

Color: red

The most possible type: ESTP

Other possible types: ESFP, ISTP, ISFP

Honorable functions: Te

⚫️ Pluto: Ni

I associate Ni - introverted intuition with Pluto. They are both about psychology, secret, knowing, mind reading, manipulation, depth, etc. Pluto is a higher octave of Mars like Ni is the opposite of Se. Dominant/auxiliary/tertiary Ni users (INTJ, INFJ, ENTJ, ENFJ, ISFP, ISTP) usually have strong Pluto or Fire/Water influence. Ni is about what we don't know or our unconscious. Ni perceives our hidden dark sides. Ni reads into silence and absence. Ni/Se users have encountered many upheavals and gone through transformtions like they have lived many lives so they have a profound understanding of human psychology. INTJ is the closet to Pluto since auxiliary Te is more commanding, intimidating and powerful and tertiary Fi is more passionate, deep and intense. INFJ with auxiliary Fe is more motherly and Moon-liked. Another planet that connects to Ni is Neptune.

Color: black, burgundy?

The most possible type: INTJ

Other possible types: INFJ, ENTJ, ENFJ, ISTP, ISFP

Honorable functions: Se, Fi, Te

🟣 Neptune: Fi

I associate Fi - introverted feeling with Neptune. They are both about idealization, compassion, etc. Dominant/auxiliary Fi users (INFP, ISFP, ENFP, ESFP) usually have strong Neptune or Water influence. Fi alone is a creative function to me. So many talented artists are dominant/auxiliary Fi users because of their ability to express emotions. They understand the intricateness of their own feelings so they have deep sympathy for other creatures. They have high desire to live in the best world so reality is often not their strength. Luckily ISFP have a more balanced auxiliary Se and tertiary Ni so they can conquer both physical and spiritual worlds fine. INFP & ENFP can be too idealistic, scatter-brained, clumsy and unrealistic due to blind spot Se (INFP) and inferior Si (ENFP). I've also seen dominant Ni users (INFJ & INTJ) have strong Pisces/Neptune because of the dominant Ni + auxiliary Fe combination (INFJ) and tertiary Fi (INTJ). The dreaminess, glamorousness, creativity transcendence, etc. are similar to Ne & Ni. INFP is the closest to Neptune due to dominant Fi and auxiliary Ne provide a highly creative combination.

Color: purple

The most possible type: INFP

Other possible types: ISFP, ENFP, ESFP, INFJ, INTJ, ESFJ, ENTJ, ENFJ, ISTP, INTP, ENTP

Honorable functions: Ne, Ni

🟡 Sun: Te

I associate Te - extroverted thinking with Sun. They are both about leadership, competence, achievement, success, etc. Dominant/auxiliary Te users (ENTJ, ESTJ, INTJ, ISTJ) usually have strong Sun or Fire influence. I've also seen dominant/auxiliary/tertiary Se and dominant/auxiliary Fi users (ENFJ, ESFP, ISFP, ISTP, ENFP) except INFP (due to blind spot Se) and maybe ESTP (due to tertiary Fe is more Moon-liked and ESTP is more pure Mars) have strong Sun/Leo/Fire influence. The drama, expressiveness, passion, authentication, attention seeking, etc. are also associated with Fi in the Fi/Te axis that wants to express their identity. Dominant/auxiliary/tertiary Te, Fi & Se users have a drive to be seen successful. They want to shine and feel like the best of the world. That's the best feeling ever. ENTJ is the closet to Sun due to dominant Te that is assertive, authoritative and commanding and tertiary Se is strong, fast and risk-taking.

Color: yellow, red

The most possible type: ENTJ

Other possible types: ISTJ, INTJ, ESFP, ISFP, ENFJ, ISTP, ENFP

Honorable functions: Fi, Se

🟠 Moon & Venus: Fe

I associate Fe - extroverted feeling with Moon. They are both about affection, warmth, care, etc. Dominant/auxiliary Fe users (ESFJ, ENFJ, ISFJ, INFJ) usually have strong Moon or Water influence. Dominant/auxiliary Fi users (ISFP, INFP, ESFP, ENFP) may also have strong Moon or Water influence in a lesser extend. The difference between Fi and Fe is Fi have high ideals (Neptune) while Fe likes to protect loved ones (Moon). They both want to feel loved. INFJ is the closest to Moon because dominant Ni is intuitive and sensitive to all needs and auxiliary Fe is still caring but less smothering and prefer one-on-one interaction. Si (ISFJ, ESFJ) gives a more physical and down-to-earth attention while Moon is more intuitive. Dominant Fe (ESFJ, ENFJ) can be more Sun-liked because they want public attention.

Color: yellow?, purple?

The most possible type: INFJ

Other possible types: ENFJ, ISFJ, INFJ, ISFP, INFP, ESFP, ENFP

Honorable functions: Fi

I associate Fe - extroverted feeling with Venus. At first I didn't have much knowledge to match Venus with a function. I know Venus must be a feeling and sensing type. Neptune is a higher octave of Venus so it's more intuitive and abstract while Venus is more physical and sensual. Since Neptune is associated with Fi due to out-of-this-world ideals, I found Venus seeks more shallow admiration and material luxury. Taurus can be both either Si or Se with its desire for physical comfort and materials. Libra loves to be in a relationship which is associated with Fe more than Fi. Libra seeks harmony, peace, politeness and balance are all associated with Fe. Hence I believe Venus is more related to Fe. While Neptune and Pluto are more related to Fi due to idealization and passion. Dominant/auxiliary/tertiary Fe & Fi users (ESFJ, ENFJ, ISFJ, INFJ, ESFP, ENFP, ISFP, INFP) usually have strong Venus or Earth/Air influence. No matter what Venus is the lower octave of Neptune so it will influence both Fe and Fi. ESFJ is the closest to Venus since dominant Fe has sophisticated and charming manners and auxiliary Si loves physical comfort.

Color: pink, purple

The most possible type: ESFJ

Other possible types: ENFJ, ISFJ, INFJ, ESFP, ENFP, ISFP, INFP, ESTP, ENTP

Honorable functions: Fi

🔵 Mercury: Ti

I associate Ti - introverted thinking with Mercury. They are both about logic, accuracy, connection, calculation, etc. Dominant/auxiliary Ti users (INTP, ISTP, ENTP, ESTP) usually have strong Mercury or Earth/Air influence. Tertiary Ti users (ISFJ, INFJ), dominant/auxiliary Ne users (INFP, INTP, ENFP, ENTP) and dominant/auxiliary Te users (INTJ, ENTJ, ISTJ, ESTJ) may also have strong Mercury or Earth/Air influence since Ne is about making connections and Te is also rational in making decisions. INTP is the closest to Ti since dominant Ti is logical and auxiliary Ne is more theoretical.

Other possible types: ISTP, ENTP, ESTP, INFJ, ISFJ, INFP, ENFP, INTJ, ENTJ, ISTJ, ESTJ

Color: blue

The most possible type: INTP

Honorable functions: Ne, Te

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