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ghostflowerhotpotch · 30 days
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You know? Something funny about being obsessed with these movies (Mostly ATSV really) is reading a fic and realize of "mistakes."
The coca-cola substitute in earth 42, the name of Miles's aunt, etc.
To make this clear: Is in quotes because none of these things really matter, there are details that a regular viewer wouldn't see anyway, but when you are an obsessed weirdo with an hyperfixation is kind of funny see a fic and be like "so did you study this movie like you are doing a thesis on it or are you normal?"
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For some reason the whole Taylor Swift mania thing has made me reconsider the way I look at celebrities and stan culture… I’m a huge fan of bts, especially jungkook, sometimes even to the point of obsession. But I see these people losing their minds over Taylor, following her every move, worshipping even the small actions she does, defending her like their life depends on it and it’s like? You don’t know her? She doesn’t care ab you, not to say she doesn’t care ab her fans but to her, you’ll always just be an indistinguishable “fan” no matter how much of your life you dedicate to her. She’ll just keep getting richer and richer.
It made me realize how I do a lot of these same things for bts, especially Jungkook, and has really made me rethink my behavior and how stan culture has kind of warped my thinking. Like yes, Jungkook is incredibly attractive and talented and kind, but he’s still a person. And it’s such a fine line in stanning spaces between admiration and straight up worship. stan culture seems to be getting more and more unhinged and it’s so strange to watch from another perspective. Just my rambling thoughts, haha
Yes, you're absolutely right, but it's also very easy to fall into the trap. It's not just the individual fan's fault, but a myriad of reasons that lead to it, including from the artist side. I recently listened to someone explaining one of Swift's methods of keeping her fans so attached and interested and it was presumably because she stopped giving promotional interviews and in order to have that gap filled, fans turn to her lyrics in order to find clues about her life. Her dating life is mediated and very public, but she creates a distance by lack of more candid or intimate appearances (in depth interviews and so on). It's easy to create this cult-like image and to have a fandom that moves like that. The bigger it is, the more unhinged the behavior gets. See Army as well or other Kpop fandoms. The Swarm tv series was definitely inspired by the beyhive. When the artist turns into this larger than life figure, this phenomenon is to be expected.
Can we keep ourselves in check? Yes, sure. But not always and it's not easy. Stan behavior is complex and its levels of craziness are on a scale. I see myself falling into the trap. But just because I have awareness, it doesn't mean I stop, you know. Often I have this issue with "babying" some of these men which is ridiculous because I have never done that and I still don't do it with others, except for JM and JK. More in the sense that I see them through rose-tinted glasses sometimes, I can find justifications, they're two babygirls and can do no harm and so on. You know how easy it is for me to check myself? I only have to apply the same way of thinking to other idols and guess what? It doesn't work. I don't see it. In some cases I find some of it completely ridiculous. But this says something about me, not the idol in question. It's the result of being biased and it's difficult to step away from that, but I do try to find a balance.
Another thing that happens when we spend a lot of times in fandom spaces is that we might tend to forget that celebrating achievements and the way we write about these people can turn ridiculous very fast. And if you like the person, it's harder to notice. Writing about an idol through this perspective of them being extraordinary, every minor or mundane aspect has to be praised, etc., gets very close to sounding like propaganda texts. Again, I notice it better when I read stuff about people that I'm not really into. Ten minutes scrolling through Club Chalamet's twitter page and it's like getting a cold shower.
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anothersebastianblog · 5 months
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Sebastian Stan’s fans always wonder why he left social medias, why he cut a lot of his interactions with fans, why he distanced himself from us and if he will eventually come back on instagram.
Well let me tell you something real quick: he won’t. And that’s the best decision for him and a deserved punishment for us because this is the type of comments and hate his girlfriend is getting for literally breathing next to him (not only on instagram but also on here with blogs dedicated to name-calling her and on twitter with people wishing her d3ath)
And don’t worry he absolutely knows that and can’t stand his fans and I don’t blame him at all.
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You guys ask why i made this blog, why i am here defending “bad” women, why i act like a “shipper”: this is why. You misogyny. Your idiotic behaviour. Your crazy conspiracy theories that always consider the women next to him as the devil and him like a poor 5 yo that needs a nurse to survive.
I don’t care what these women did or didn’t in the past, here they will always be defended and protected 🤷🏻‍♀️ deal with it.
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sharenadraculea · 1 month
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It feels very weird to see people call the og-atla-show absolutly perfect and pretend it is the height of everything humans have ever created and has absolutly no faults, especially in comparison to natla. Because it‘s not. It‘s a very good show and it does a lot of things well, but it has a ton of issues. And refusing to acknowledge them isn‘t great.
A incomplete list of problems the show has: -Iroh -especially in season 1- is often really creepy, especially the whole stuff with June -The handlung of Azula and her mental illness is atrocious -Irohs dark past and the whole siege of Ba Sing Se is handled horribly -Sokkas sexism-arc is mostly played for laughs, especially him wearing make-up and a dress. Also it‘s very „don‘t be mean to girls because they could kick your ass, not because you shouldn‘t be sexist.“ -The genocides are handled fine at best and feel very cleaned up (understandable, because it‘s a kids show) (planning to do a longer write up about that soon) -The ending with the energybending and the lion turtles is horribly rushed. -Yue becoming the moon and her relationship with Sokka also feels pretty rushed and a lot of it is focused on Sokka beeing sad. -Subplots are started and not properlly finished. Tophs parents immediatly come to mind. -The cliffhanger of Ozai saying Ursa is still alive despite there beeing zero evidence that she actually is (I know the comics exist and I have no desire to read them) -It‘s totally fine to commit warcrimes if you are a lovable grandpa that makes really good tea/sad music plays whenever people talk about you. -The portrayel of Kataras parentification and it beeing shown as okay -Generally the treatment of Katara and her often beeing the butt of the joke because she is too much of a mom to the other characters -The treatment of Jet and Hama as horrible villains for *checks notes* not just figthing against the firenation with sunshine and rainbows. Yes, obviously hurting innocent people isn‘t great but I do not like them beeing thrown into a category with Sozin and Ozai and the likes.
These are just my thoughts and my rambelings of course. If you like atla -and I do too, it‘s a great show- that is great, just pretending it has zero issues is a bit of a problem in my humble opinion.
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yellowcakeuf6 · 1 day
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Well, suffering from a nasty UTI today has led me to sound off about a long standing thorn in my side.
I am speechless at the superior attitude by some on social media and AO3 towards those whose credentials are less impressive than theirs.
IMO being congenial and sociable to fellow fandom members by offering kudos, likes, comments, reblogs etc isn't creeping or ass licking, it's a way to share mutual appreciation for something we all love and enjoy. So it's sad and also very mean that if someone doesn't belong to an exclusive "clique" they get kissed off as if they are creeps or nuisances.
These "too cool for school" snobs should get their heads out of their asses (which contrary to what they think aren't made of gold) and remind themselves that they are not entitled or special. Summarily dismissing those who don't have the same popularity or presence on social media as themselves isn't smart or endearing. It's petty and spiteful.
I saw a poster outside a primary school recently which tells the kids to 'be nice on their device' and I think there's some folk out there a lot older who could still learn from that.
Rant over.
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gaeapplehairline · 4 months
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I don't even need to name the fandom. Y'all weren't lying when you said I'd never look at anything without seeing those depressed British boys.
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daydreamerwonderkid · 5 months
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I need people to understand that when I say I'm "horny" for a character, what I actually mean is that I wanna put them in a bottle and then shake said bottle VIOLENTLY
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kassylin · 5 months
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Re: Henry Cavill. Look who won though. He received hate from a part of the fandom/previous fandom (both bc of his gf - Did fans think they have a chance with him? - and some twn fans bc he left the show) but look at him now. He's getting more and more roles, he's working non stop with critical acclaimed directors and he looks happy. I'm happy he's not on social media, they are a tiny indication of someone's life or popularity. (meanwhile twn already lost 48% of its viewership from s1)
Yes, the biggest indication of his happiness for me is his work. I am selfish though and want him to post something, anything. That way I'd know he forgave us *sighs* And to those who were dissapointed and left, well, bye! lol
I can't wait for Argylle and everything he has to show us)
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athenasparrow · 7 months
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Since I have quite a few of these now...
For the anons sending insults or backhanded compliments about other writers work to my inbox - I won't be publishing them.
Why are you sending them to me? What are you expecting to come out of it? I'm not going to partake in sharing messages that will hurt other people's feelings. My inbox is not a dumping ground to try and get around other authors switching anon off.
If you have kind words to offer, please send them directly to the author - I promise it will make their day ☺️ If you can't, I am happy to repost answer and tag them, but I encourage you to go off-anon! They don't bite!
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For all the other lovely anons in my inbox: I SEE your asks! I'm getting to them! There are so many and I'm having a bit of a week, but I'll get there 😘❤️
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beautifulpersonpeach · 5 months
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Hello BPP,
One of the thoughts I have had over the last few days, and one I hope doesn't offend anyone, is that shipping sometimes is founded in selfishness.
The reason I have come to this conclusion is the behaviour of a certain community that is quite vocal online in their displeasure over the content that gets produced. They have turned to focusing solely on the members they ship instead of grasping the emotional weight of the moments we get to observe. They immediately jump to the conclusion of a conspiracy against their ship, despite how non-sensical repressing said ship would be from a purely capitalistic viewpoint, and then use footage that was taken without the consent of the members and after their express wish for fans to not appear at the send-off to support their theory. I have heard of them furthering the narrative that their ship is real due to private moments yet these moments are either (a) debunked by those who are not sucked into the narrative or (b) obtained by sharing videos once again without the consent of their shippées.
But it isn't about the bond between JK and Tae for them but rather being right, about being the ones to see the truth - going against the grain - and whatever rhetoric they like to employ.
It's about the fetishisation of two attractive men being together, a comforting thought for what I imagine to be girls and women that would like to be in a relationship with these two themselves. Why else would they mostly focus on bashing a company and real human beings because they're not being catered to?
It is quite disturbing to consider how there's this willingness to cross boundaries of every type, including tweeting at an actual government branch and then accusing said branch of furthering fanservice. All of it is, as I stated at the beginning, selfish. There is no consideration for the feelings of the people they claim to protect, no media literacy, no acceptance of Occam's Razor, no interest in factual depictions.
I hope they grow tired soon, because it is tiring to even witness in the periphery.
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Sorry for the quite stilted English, I've been watching too many video essays the past few days and I physically cannot turn off that filter.
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It’s sad, amusing and concerning all at the same time, isn’t it? You’ve hit the nail on the head and yeah it applies to most shippers: taekookers especially but also many jikookers, and even solo stans, who resort to the same mental leaps when their expectations aren’t met. I agree with you and have said much the same several times in the last few years.
I don’t share your hope that they grow tired soon though. In fact what tends to happen is that they become even more unhinged. The more they invest into their theories and worldview, the more they take increasingly invasive steps to validate those theories. It’s sad and one of the worst expressions of sunk cost fallacy I’ve seen in fandom. The most we can do as fans is to check that behaviour when we see it in the fandom, and deplatform people building a following set on those ideas. And hope to god that the military does a decent job of ensuring their security while in service.
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eurofox · 11 months
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Whenever I see some intense, wacky shite there is often a Brazilian involved.
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What do you think about people who use the Jikook tag to announce they no longer believe in Jikook as a ship? Or who post opinions such as no longer believing their friendship is special? I’m sort of torn because on one hand the tag isn’t technically a place for only pro-ship opinions, but on the other hand I thought it was general knowledge that most people use it to seek out positive content (and I don’t mean only pro-shipping, just positive content about whichever duo even in a platonic manner).
I just find it odd someone would feel the need to announce their personal, negative opinion about a ship publicly in a ship tag (especially if they go on to then complain in said ship tag about any negative response they receive). I also don’t understand why they thought their unprompted opinion was worth sharing in the first place when it seems like something only their friends and followers would really care about. It almost comes off a bit… self-important? Or maybe I’m just overly conscious of how I use tags and most people don’t think like this? I don’t think it helps that a lot of these posts carry an air of superiority where they paint themselves as more rational and objective than shippers… and it feels almost intentionally antagonistic to then purposefully post it in a place full of them.
Do you think my opinion is unfair or oversensitive? Am I wrong about how people use the tag and am I underestimating the demand for critical shipping content? Is it too controlling or unfair to criticize or judge a person for posting debunking/negative posts about a ship and their overall bond in their ship tag? Does this mentality negatively contribute to the toxicity of shippers and the overall hive-mind mentality of requiring each other to 100% believe said ship is real? Would it discourage or push away people who don’t believe in the ship but still enjoy and positively contribute to shipping spaces?
It’s obvious who I’m talking about if you go into the tag and I hate gossiping about other bloggers (and have absolutely nothing against them and hope people leave them alone if they don’t like their posts) so I don’t expect you to post this. But if you ever feel like writing about any of this, because it’s something I’ve seen multiple people do, I’d love to know your thoughts. I really like your stance on anti-shippers so I’d be curious to know your opinions on things like tag etiquette and the phenomenon of people needing to publicly announce when they no longer believe in a ship.
I know some people like to have an outlet to express their doubts on a ship being real or not and that’s valid, obviously there's a demand for spaces like that, and the tag doesn’t belong to just one group of people… but as someone who doesn’t even have a strong opinion on the nature of Jikook’s relationship, I still feel like it’s an odd way to spend your time when you could just have fun enjoying them without having to commit to thinking they’re romantic or not. And spamming a space people use to seek out positive content with your negative, cynical (and sometimes equally biased takes) just feels like such a douchey thing to do. But I still can’t tell if I’m being like… a bitch about it when obviously there’s a desire for content like that, people have a right to post whatever they want, and overly zealous shippers can be just as annoying.
Sorry to go off about this in your inbox! But if you have any thoughts to share on any of this one day, I’d love to hear them!
Thanks for sending me the follow up ask with the link. I'm not reading all that rant because I don't feel like getting angry in the morning and especially over a ship of all things. I have that person blocked since the beginning, I sort of clocked what their deal was. Not that difficult to figure it out.
I also understand why you have all these questions and it's perfectly valid. There is no single answer though. We do need to be careful to not transform online spaces in echo chambers, but the solution to that is not being antagonistic either. In some cases, that's clearly the purpose and you can see it in the username, usage of tags, how it's targeted and so on. We all end up knowing how things work on the platforms we mostly use.
Healthy conversations surrounding ships and shipping spaces should take place. But that space needs to be created in a way that feels inclusive and not exclusionary. It's one thing to want to talk about all aspects of a ship, what clicks to you or not while being open minded about it (phrasing and tone are an indication of that) and another is to purposefully want to spread an agenda. Not just this blogger you're referring to, but also others that I've seen throughout my time here. There is no conversation taking place, it's an invitation for like-minded people and thus creating their own echo chamber in which arguments in favor of the ship are dismissed. Ultimately, all what people want is to share their opinion and for others to approve it. There is no real conversation, just the illusion of it and somehow the lie is more prevalent in anti-shipping spaces in which so called rational, anti-delusional thinking is a sign of superiority, just like you pointed it out.
I don't think we can/should control what is being posted in a tag. Perhaps there's an established etiquette that I'm not aware of, but looking at it that way can perhaps be harmful in the long run. Nevertheless, I also don't believe that flooding a tag with mostly negative takes is the right way to go. Perhaps there should be a separate one for anti-shipping discourse or keeping it in-house.
It's also a personal choice at the end of the day. People can write whatever they want on their blog. I know that in my case, when I know that I write something that obviously has potential to upset/anger fans of a ship/person, I choose not to tag the name because I know nothing productive will come out of it and it will only lead to a confrontation. Which is ultimately a waste of time.
Having very strong opinions over a k-pop ship to the point of preaching it's realness or the opposite, its lack of romantic nature, is not something that can have moral superiority attached to it. Regardless of each side, I don't think most of the people actually know the private lives of these idols so perhaps being more chill about it should be the way to go.
I've said this numerous times, but as much as shipping is villainized as opposed to supporting or even anti-shipping, it is (or should be) ultimately a fandom practice that can be fun, without necessarily getting too deep into it or a reason for conflict. It's in our hands the way we behave and what we write.
And perhaps not being complete assholes about it helps.
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cozyrosykay · 1 month
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Ok ya’ll drop your insta handles if you have them, I’m going to be deleting my tumbler at the end of the week. Unfortunately the amazing art and aus are just not outweighing the bullshit and pointless arguing that I see in every fandom I’m in on here, it’s reaching Twitter levels and I left that over a year ago. It’s just exhausting and I get so tired of having to block people. But if you have insta for your art or fandom please let me know. I have a bookstagram account over there.
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colourfulgreyscales · 3 months
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OK, this is a call-out, although I will be as kind with it as I can. Also this is about more than one fandom of artists confirmed or suspected queer. Also, please bear in mind that I am making broad generalisations.
For the hetero people: there is nothing wrong with you or your fave being called out gay. I don't understand the need to get defensive. I understand if it had to do with people gatekeeping the fandom from you, or not being open to the fave being another non-straight identity, but trust me, there is nothing wrong with your fave being called gay or queer or even bisexual. If you deem appropriate to counter, take a step back and look at the context before you do.
Now with some in the queer contingent of fandoms: Some of you react with equal levels of triggered if the possibility of the non-straight person being bi/pan/attracted to multiple genders is mentioned. I get it, we want our favourites to represent us but I don't understand what's with the anger from some of you. Is it that you feel discredited? Because being bi is queer, it includes homosexual attractions and the possibility of your fave ending up with someone of your gender. I have seen this with both suspected and confirmed bi+ artists (Kristen Stewart, Janelle Monae, Alan Cumming and Michael Stipe are examples of the confirmed ones). And again, context matters here.
To members of both camps: so you accept your favourite might be bi? Cool. Please bear in mind that they might end up with someone of a gender that is not yours. Can you be or learn to be okay with that?
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bean-in-dice · 4 months
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Another year in dramaland.
My outtake is that people continue to be fucking unimaginative, they see someone shipping a pairing that is "Not canon CP" and immediately go: "Oh repressed straight girls are projecting their fantasies onto characters."
Like???
I will ship a tree and a monkey together if I spot two minutes of chemistry between them and I'm definitely not straight. I don't need a story to continuously push overly-heightened het kabadon scenes in my face to decide if a couple is worth shipping lmao
Try it. It's freeing.
And once you do, you will also open the door to an amazing community of like-minded people that you didn't notice before because you were too busy policing others' harmless fun.
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gaeapplehairline · 5 months
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How do I explain that I am not nor have ever been part of the fnaf fandom but..
1. I played at least 2 hours of several games
2.can recite several parts of the lore by heart
3.listened to all the big songs and had a favourite
4.seen dam near all the matpat videos
5. Still watch Markiplier play it
6. Know who Vincent is
7.have drawn art of it
8. Noticed several Easter eggs in the movie before my diehard fan friends(lost my shit at sparky)
9. Knew the teaser for the 4th game by heart
10. I vaguely remember having mystery collectables
11. Have 2 really dope posters for the game that I may have taken from my brothers
But like I have never considered myself I fan.....just so many people I know are. Like it was fandom behavior but by proxy.
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