#frazeleo

[lockandkeycake]

Ignore this post, my HoTD moots, this is going to be a long post you don't care about.

it's PJO/HoO rant time.

What can I say, Tumblr brings me back to the simpler times of 2016.

Y'all baby Frank too much. Like. Way too much.

Leo was a dick at times, no doubt. But I think y'all forget Frank was absolutely being antagonistic because he was paranoid over Leo looking like Hazel's ex. You can argue it's because Leo fired on New Rome, but Frank himself counters that claim and Leo is initially grateful Frank didn't blame him.

Frank was also the first one to bring up Sammy, not Hazel, just before that. Later, all before Leo says anything against Frank, Piper thinks Frank's behavior is because it seems like Leo and Hazel had a history. This is a longer bit of a book scene, but I feel like it gets ignored.

This is still before Leo says anything against Frank. I will be saying that a number of more times. Leo just complimented his ability and Frank responds with a pretty catty comment about Leo's physical abilities. You can see the difference in how he reacts even more clearly in a scene before, when Hazel is commenting on Frank turning into a dragon

Frank doesn't counter the idea to become a dragon, he just has an issue with leaving Hazel with Leo. Leo again, so far, isn't upset with Frank. He wants to prove he's trustworthy.

When Piper does her fun little exorcism on the lads, this happens. I have to say yet again. Leo has not insulted Frank at this point. Not a huge issue, Frank was a bit shaken up, but it was still kind of a dick move to just. Let him hit the dirt. I'll excuse it because it is very funny.

Later when they find out about Nico, this scene below happens. Leo has still not said anything against Frank at this point - Jason even agrees repeatedly with Leo, but Frank only glares at Leo.

After this, when Hazel is upset and leaves, Leo starts to likely say he should go apologize, but Frank cuts him off saying, "you've done enough."

We're a few hundred pages through the book now at this point. Frank has insulted Leo, he doesn't trust him, doesn't want Hazel around him, singles him out, and literally let him fall to the ground. Leo has not said anything against him yet.

Even Percy notes that Frank's mood is tied to his relationship with Hazel, and Leo seemingly threatening that.

(and for those who are curious - baleful means threateningly, or to wish harm)

This is when, after a good chunk into the novel, we reach Leo's first dig at Frank.

Then ~the iguana incident~ comes not long after, but if you're going to call this Leo bullying him, you'd have to include... Everyone. Since they literally all laughed at Frank turning into a lizard to get out of the finger trap. Hazel, Percy, Annabeth, everyone. Not a fun moment for Frank, I sympathize with him there, but I wouldn't personally call this pointed bullying. You may disagree but I do not think at the very least that Riordan intended it to be seen as bullying. This is followed by Leo sending Frank's dirty laundry out on Buford for awhile (though he does claim that it would be cleaned and returned to him, eventually we do learn the laundry is lost. This was not a planned thing by Leo, and I don't understand why this is characterized by some people as him purposely throwing away Frank's clothes.)

All this eventually leads to this exchange.

Gee, I don't know, Frank. Maybe because you keep glaring at him anytime you're around him to the point even Percy was like oh boy I got to get him off the ship before he folds Leo like a pretzel.

Later, Frank actually helps save Leo in eagle form, but ends up injured in the process - and drops Leo. I really don't think Frank meant to drop him, but Leo thinks Frank dropped him on purpose. That's kind of a big thing, even though it's a minor line.

Then, Frank is back to being untrusting of Leo. He's glowering, glaring, and again - doesn't want to leave Leo with Hazel.

When Hazel is alone with Leo, she finally takes the time to defend Frank.

So, clearly, Frank scares Leo.

Leo scares Frank.

It's a fun horrible little wicked web! It's almost like the author intended them to buttheads! Shocking!

I've run out of pictures to add!

I could and probably will continue this nonsense, but the general point of this rant is Frank is not just some totally sweet big guy who has never done anything wrong in his entire life, and characterizing him as such just makes him boring. He's self conscious, insecure, and lashes out at- boy, doesn't that sound familiar. Anyway.

He was kind of a dick to Leo, and Leo was kind of a dick to him in turn.

I'm pretty sure I had a better ending for this originally, that summed everything up, but now I'm distracted and just bitter they didn't kiss.

I didn't even have time to reach their interactions underwater.

#leo valdez #frank zhang #heroes of olympus #percy jackson #if i tag this #valzhang #how angry would y'all be #what about #frazeleo

[litiyerses]

this one's got a little kick to it

#bringing tiktok ideas to here bc if i suffer u suffer w me #no wm pls dont steallll #valzhang #frazeleo #frazel #pjo #hoo #heroes of olympus #percy jackon and the olympians #percy jackson #hoo text post #pjo text post #leo valdez #frank zhang #hazel levesque

[0annarya0]

You know when you have a fav and you ship them with more than one person?? Or you ship them with ONE AND ONLY?

It's me with Nico and Solangelo

And me with Leo and Valzhang and Valgrace and Perleo and and and Frazeleo and Jasipereo and oh fuck oh shit it's spilling oh fuck too much oh no god

#pjo #pjoverse #pjo hoo toa #percy jackon and the olympians #hoo #heroes of olympus #riordanverse #trials of apollo #nico di angelo #leo valdez #solangelo #valzhang #valgrace #frazeleo #perleo #jasipereo #the lost trio #the revived trio

[paranoid-spotlight-everest]

Was not expecting the canon to sway me to shipping Valzhang???

#frankleo #valzhang #frazeleo

[hazellvsq]

hazel and frank should pull a gawain and the green knight with leo

#au where the feud between the two camps takes a bizarre turn #au where they ruin leo's christmas #frazeleo

[optimisticfruitcup]

there is something so kallurance about frazeleo. something something equal opposites.

#kallurance #frazeleo #i understand what im opening myself up to by actually tagging the ships but honestly. idc anymore #two sides of the same coin or whatever

[bright-eyes-strawberry-lies]

Top 100 PJO ships (according to AO3)

#pjo #polls #gruniper #reynabeth #thaluke #persades #posally #perachel #pipeyna #frazeleo #jasperico #pertemis #riordanverse #percy jackson series #anyone clowning on this poll will be blocked

[mnm-hive]

HEROES OF OLYMPUS

I love bringing my favorite characters to life, so I made my own take on the HOO gang.

#art & graphics #frazeleo #reynico #percabeth #jasper #hoo

[cabin7-hufflepuff]

argo II crew as songs from my musical playlist (not including tlt musical cuz i think that would be cheating)

percy: once and for all - newsies (king of new york for the jokes)

"we ain’t come this far to lose”

“in a few hours by dawn's early light we’ll be ready to fight us a war”

“once and for all there’ll be blood on the wall if they doubt us. they think they’re running this town, but this town would shut down without us”

annabeth: not your seed - the guy who didn’t like musicals

“i’m not your girl anymore”

“you left me out of your sight for one second and look what happens”

“if you actually paid attention to me”

“why does it hurt to love you? why am i in pain?”

“if i turned my insides out, would you even know that i was there?”

jason: louder than words - tick tick boom

“why does it take an accident before the truth gets through to us?”

“why does it take catastrophe to start a revolution?”

“someone tell me why so many people bleed”

piper: take me back - black friday

“you and i were meant to be something more than a faded memory”

“take me back when we were lost. lost in love and lost in feeling without the cost”

“take me back in time to love you. hold me closer than before. heal my heart and mend what’s broken”

leo: let me make you proud - tangled the series

“maybe you’re right to have doubts in me”

“if you for once could just trust me”

“let me make you proud. let me show you the best in me. let me give you a reason to believe that i can stand tall”

“i know that i’ve disappointed you”

“i will make you have faith in me”

frank: not alone - a very potter musical/darren criss

“i’ve seen how heartless the world can be”

“nothin’ can keep me from lovin’ you”

“i trip and stumble tryin’ to make sense of things sometimes”

“all i need is to look in your eyes and i realize. baby i’m not alone, cause you’re here with me”

Hazel: perfect harmony - julie and the phantoms (dead girl walking for the jokes)

“life can be so mean. but when he goes, i know he doesn’t leave”

“two worlds collide when i’m with you”

“you and me together is more than chemistry”

“we say we’re friends, we play pretend. you’re more to me”

nico: if i believed - twisted: the untold story of a royal vizier

“i’d turn back the sands of time and save you”

“but wishes are dreams and dreams are pretend”

“science says your dead and gone forever. reason says i’m talking to the air. but something in my heart, some secret, hidden part, illogically insists that you are there”

will: days of summer - a very potter sequel

“we got these days of summer to remind us of each other”

“i’m hoping that the good old days are something i can dream about at night”

“i don’t wanna see you go, but it’s not forever”

“you’re the part of me that makes me better wherever i go”

reyna: woman is - lempicka

“woman is powerful”

“woman is shape, breath, form. woman is bone, muscle, light. woman is curve and shadow. woman is beautiful”

“i am alive”

“i am on fire”

“please let me hold you close, here in the breathing dark”

#pjo #rick riordan #percy jackson #percy jackon and the olympians #heroes of olympus #hoo #annabeth chase #jason grace #piper mclean #leo valdez #frank zhang #hazel levesque #nico di angelo #will solace #reyna avila ramirez arellano #pjo disney+ #disney pjo #percabeth #frazel #frazeleo #jiper #jasper #pipabeth

[fandom-queen-13]

#percabeth #frazeleo #connieverse #Huntlow #lumity #soos x melody

[melancholic-pigeon]

Hazel has two hands ot3 meme 💜

#pythia rereads the source material #frazeleo #you can barely keep up but you're learning a lot about coffee

[lockandkeycake]

I got the Mark of Athena graphic novel and the valzhang is strong with this one.

Why are you making that face.

Also this entire page

Unfortunately there was none of their underwater scenes in the graphic novel like there was the book but whatever.

Also this page was good just cus it looks like Leo's reenacting the Charlie iasip meme

#leo valdez #frank zhang #hazel levesque #percy jackon and the olympians #heroes of olympus #mark of athena #comics #valzhang #frazeleo #why is Hazel so pale tho #this isn't Hazel this is chestnut or smth #dark skin Hazel supremacy #Leo needs pointier ears too #i love that he looks like fanart lmao #he wore suspenders once and didn't like em

[litiyerses]

dare i say

#idiot 1 is frank #2 is leo obvs #hazel is the only normal one #leo valdez #frank zhang #hazel levesque #valzhang #frazel #frazeleo #calypso pjo #hoo #percy jackon and the olympians #heroes of olympus #percy jackson #pjo text post #hoo text post #annabeth chase #jason grace #piper mclean #nico di angelo #will solace #solangelo

[ghostsfoster]

frazeleo may not be my favorite ship but goddamn the fics are so well written its hard to read anything else

#like #how #why are frazeleo writers so talented #heroes of olympus #leo valdez #frank zhang #hazel lavesque #frazeleo #hoo

[luneyruthy]

LOOKING FOR WRITING PROMPTS

I would like to write some frazleo. I need prompts though. Anything goes as long as its not Omegaverse, 18+, or Mpreg. If it helps, I am a diehard Leo kinnie so I think best from his perspective. I really want to get back into writing, and my favourite thing to write is hurt/comfort.

I will also be up for other ships for prompts, I just feel frazeleo is incredibly under appreciated.

They most likely will be quick one shots just to get the brain juices flowing. I am also thinking of starting a chatfic for PJO, because there are not enough of those either. Maybe some fake dating prompts, I'm not sure.

LEAVE YOUR SUGGESTIONS BELOW!! :D

#percy jackson #dialogue prompts #whump prompts #story prompts #rick riordan #prompts #percy jackon and the olympians #fanfic prompts #leo valdez #frazel #frazeleo #frank zhang #hazel levesque #please #i beg <3

[hazellvsq]

frank/hazel/leo most popular pjo ot3? an analysis

okay so the love triangle poll had me thinking. i knew frank/hazel/leo had ship content on ao3, and i was curious to see if other love triangles or popular trios got the same treatment.

(this is very long and rambling)

this is the amount of ao3 content frank/hazel/leo has:

these are the other trios i was looking at:

last one is crazy lol. anyway, other potential trios like jason/reyna/piper or different combos of percy/annabeth/piper/jason all had less than 20 fics each. its possible i missed one but i'm pretty sure i tried of all of them.

for context, the general state of pjo character and ship content looks like this:

the vast majority of tagged fandom content with frank and hazel has them as background characters. finding content that centers them takes digging. aside from calypso/leo, they have the least popular canon ship, and the only other character that either has any substantial fan content with is leo. the pjo fandom has shipped leo with literally any character he was in proximity with, and hazel was a canon love interest of his. in addition, the pjo fandom has incredibly popular mlm ships and has gone through the time-honored tradition of finding ways to sideline, if not villainize, the canon female love interests. which makes these next stats so interesting to me:

a decent portion of works in both of these tags are frank/hazel/leo fics that got crosstagged. obviously, frank/hazel have more fics than frank/hazel/leo:

however, its impossible to figure out how many of these fics actually center frank/hazel, as opposed to them just being background characters. so i did a test and filtered out all of the more popular ships in their tag:

this isn't a perfect representation, because there are definitely frank/hazel centric-fics that had other ships in the background, and frank/hazel/leo aren't the main couple of every fic they get tagged in. still, though. that's less than the frank/hazel/leo fics.

the other thing about hazel and frank content is that they are the two characters who are most frequently headcanoned as straight. it's died down some in recent years but it used to be CONSTANT (it happened to leo too, but not as much). most fans thought they were the two most "traditional" characters, value-wise. so i was thinking, if frank and hazel got this much content for a poly ship, then the characters that this fandom actually thinks are gay have to have more:

and then i was like, hmmm well okay i'm very surprised there's not more for those three. but there's so many people who ship some combo of nico/percy/jason/will. i've seen so many big 3 edits that leave out the girls. there's no way frank/hazel/leo is beating out the white slash ship industrial complex.

frank/hazel/leo beat out the white slash ship industrial complex (big threesome is a very funny ship name tho).

my biggest guess would be that there was some sort of beef between the percy/nico and jason/nico crowds that has led to this lack of ot3 content. i wouldn't know. i'm wondering if they're going to catch up; its not far off right now. as far as i can tell will solace has no popular ot3's that broke more than 20 fics and is pretty much only shipped with nico.

other potential ot3's like jason/piper/leo...i have a theory that a lot of jason/piper shippers only really shipped it in conjunction with percy/annabeth because they were were a good secondary couple for percabeth-centric fics, and didn't care about leo as much (which could explain why there's more overall content for jason and piper than for leo). also, i think historically a lot of leo fans thought jason and piper were bad friends, although these days there's a lot more renewed appreciation for their trio. piper has also been commonly written as a ship obstacle since the inception of her character, when people thought she was homewrecking jason and reyna (the jason/nico crowd uses this trope too), which might be why she's not commonly put in ot3's despite having chemistry with most of the cast. on the other hand, the "ship wars" between hazel/frank and hazel/leo shippers in the mark of athena era were pretty mild, because most readers liked all three characters and didn't have strong enough feelings about either pairing to fight about it, whereas other ot3's don't get written because fans have a very strong preference for their other ships.

i know frank/hazel/leo has its origins on ff.net, but it was mostly one author and mostly just kink. there's a much bigger variety on ao3. i'm wondering why people liked it enough to make it a side pairing for other fics, and at what point the bulk of content for it was written. i'm wondering what people get out of combining the three of them that you don't get from just two. is it because all 3 dynamics are so clearly defined in canon? some of them also are based on kinks like mpreg that historically exclude women, so why do these authors include one? this is also interesting because the rest of the fanbase, including both fans who ship frank/hazel and fans who think that shipping hazel with anybody is problematic, refuse to write about hazel or frank having sex to the point where it was a fandom meme for a while. except in frank/hazel/leo fics, where a large percentage have explicit content. i'm wondering which of the nico/jason/percy or frank/hazel/leo tags has more mpreg, but i'm okay not knowing.

if you made it this far, there's not a real point to this post, except pointing out that for characters who barely get shipping content, frank/hazel/leo is unexpectedly popular considering how much content exists about them otherwise, and also goes against popular fandom perception of the characters in interesting ways.

#i have NO idea what to tag this as lol #frank zhang #hazel levesque #leo valdez #frazeleo #i'm still kinda shook that this had more fics then the nico ot3 i did not see that coming #lost hero trio deserves more fics tho tbh like every combination of it has been popular at one point. its time for a merger #also this essay is not an endorsement or criticism of any ships listed idc about any of them #just trying to figure out what makes different ships tick in fandom #if someone ran a ot3 poll rn i do not think frazeleo would win. but if you ran it during the height of the pjo ship wars? #my running theory is that ship wars prevent ot3s. since ppl usually have a strong preference. this is just one of the rare cases where peo