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reikiajakoiranruohoja · 1 month

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Why the Apocalypse in the title matters and how W5 fails to address it

Even if it is by this point a joke, all WoD games have a title what creature it lets you play and then one of the core elements of it.

Yet, it is odd that a werewolf game puts the end of the world as one of its most central concepts. After all, werewolves aren't really associated with the apocalypse in myths. The closest is Fenris-Ulf in Norse myths, but Fenris was a monstrous wolf, not a werewolf. Shouldn't Changing or Fury be a better descriptor?

Well, WtA's werewolves draw from older material than the movies and the focus is not on being a werewolf. The focus is on the state of the world, the way nature is being destroyed and such. In the game, being a werewolf is more akin to a spiritual guardian than a cursed being.

The Apocalypse in the title not only refers to the literal end of existence but to the little apocalypses happening every year. Species dying, people losing touch with their ancestral cultures, etc. WtA is about looking at the state of the world and feeling the horror of just how hard it is to fix it if not impossible. Never mind the sadly now very real horror of greed over care and ennui towards your fellow humans and nature.

This genuine approach and call to action has, of course, created an opposite reaction that calls WtA's tone childish. More recently, as we actually start seeing the effects of climate change, the reactions have also become ones of denial, apathy and fear of doing the wrong thing.

It is the latter that W5 shows the clearest in its depiction of the apocalypse.

The apocalypse in W5 is invisible to normal people and other supernaturals. At most, it is the fall of the garou nation as the climate change happening in the real world. Despite this, W5 is very clear about discouraging its PCs from taking action further than locally.

In effect, W5's apocalypse and what it wants the players to do about it is toothless. The game spends page space detailing what not to do, but very little on what to do and what the apocalypse looks like. Because it is afraid to take a stand, instead focusing on passive-aggressive remarks here and there.

W5, despite its blurb stating it is about striking back at pollution, isn't willing to have its PCs be eco-terrorists (though some do slip through) and actively calls direct action the wrong method.

It isn't just what W5 tells the PCs shouldn't do, it is also how much the PCs don't have to do. It's the end of the world as we know it and you can still go to McDonald's in peace. The world is lost and you still have to go to work. If we weren't told the apocalypse was raging, we'd assume it was still in the future. The game is, intentionally or unintentionally, saying that there is no need to do anything. Even if the world is ending, it won't inconvenience you.

To put things plainly, W5's apocalypse is the way it is so there won't be paid sick days for the employees. It is an end that preserves and protects the status quo.

Of course, an apocalypse that changes nothing is not really an apocalypse. Indeed, W5 wears the apocalypse label more out of legacy than any real intention of addressing it. It wants to focus on werewolf packs and caern tending, not something as serious as the fate of the world.

In fact, I'd say W5 doesn't want to be about the garou at all but instead about werewolves. It wants to be Werewolf the Fury.

#werewolf the apocalypse #werewolftheapocalypse #wta #garou #rambly DDW #w5

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batneko · 1 year

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Who Believes Tourneys are Real and Who Doesn’t

BELIEVES:

Genos, Garou, most characters under 20

Suiryu has not been paying attention to the conversation

Tatsumaki and Fubuki (this is why Tatsumaki had a puppet of King, she's a fan)

They and Psykos are all old enough to remember the original tournaments anyway, so they have no reason to question it.

Bado and Isamu know logically that it can't be real but choose to remain in denial and think that only the characters are faked, not the action

DOESN'T BELIEVE:

Suiko is too smart for her own good

Saitama worked at one for a while and Amai only learned about them through him

Zombieman has been stabbed too many times not to see through a choreographed fight scene

Mumen helped fix boxing matches and other sporting events before he left his family so he just assumes all professional sports are rigged. He tells Garou he only cares about the horses so Garou won't try to ask him about his opinion too much.

#undead kingdom au

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the-nysh · 1 year

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I saw this reddit post a while back about how someone felt bang was more like suiryu then garou https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePunchMan/comments/q4attc/i_feel_young_bang_was_more_like_suiryu_than_garou/

and I saw a interesting talk on reddit

WHOO, i love talking about this lol. i already know this is going to be nauseatingly long, so i apologize in advance.

they both:

are martial arts geniuses whose most formative years were spent being trained by paternal figures who weren’t necessarily attached to heroism as an institution, and therefore didn’t really impart that idealism. bang used his hero status to advertise his dojo. suicho was never a hero (and he only died fairly recently, so it’s not like he didn’t have an opportunity). there was no apparent pressure to use their power to rescue others.

have/had an intense cynicism surrounding heroes that was informed by misguided ideas about what true heroism really is/believing a true hero does not and cannot exist.

despite this, they both end up explicitly pursuing their own brand of heroism. suiryu decides to be a hero after the tournament arc and garou is clearly in denial of his desire to be his own specific type of hero. like he’s literally trying to save the world.

are arrogant and generally wretched little bastards, but not unreachable or genuinely bad people.

they’re fairly close in age–suiryu looks only barely older than suiko in their flashback and she’s 18, so i’d estimate 20-21. so they’re both relatively young, and we already know that a big theme is that young people tend to be hotheaded and think they know more than they do. this is extremely pronounced in both of them.

i think their differences are also very interesting:

suiryu was popular and flighty and generally lazy. garou was an outcast who was intensely driven and stubborn.

suiryu was motivated almost entirely by hedonism and fun–garou is motivated by his ideology, which he clings to with complete desperation.

despite being on theoretically parallel tracks–geniuses who were “drowning in talent” like bang–they take this power and do drastically different things. garou uses his power to hurt people, but he also uses it to protect tareo. suiryu clearly has the capacity to use his power to protect others and has expressed interest in doing so, but he was more than willing to leave snek and lightning max to die to save himself. that’s not a trait garou has ever demonstrated.

suiryu inherently hates to lose. garou doesn’t. garou often sees losses as an opportunity to grow, but suiryu just wants to effortlessly be the strongest. garou is a tenacious hard worker who would never just say “i’ll avoid him” in the face of loss.

there’s also a webcomic specific difference i think is also interesting, but will probably be different in the manga:

although they both seemed to genuinely enjoy combat at one point, garou seems significantly less interested after his hero hunting. suiryu is actively frustrated at garou’s disinterest, which is a direct inverse of their manga roles. suiryu got fixed before garou did in the manga and the inverse is true in the webcomic. it’ll be extremely interesting to see how the manga handles this.

how i think this could be explored and fleshed out:

i think garou would dislike suiryu as a person because of their differences–he hates the popular and suiryu is an avatar of popularity and unfairness. suiryu didn’t break his back working to be strong the way garou did, but he’s still surrounded by adoring fans and praise. it’s not fair that suiryu is as strong as he is–he hasn’t earned it. garou may be an asshole, but he worked for his strength. i think showing this contrast would be interesting in fleshing them both out, especially since suiryu is apparently going to change his ways.

i think, depending on how suicho is characterized, their parallel trajectories could be directly tied to their subsequent beliefs. they’re both brats who needed discipline and guidance because they didn’t know how to wield their power in a productive way. we already know bang feels directly responsible. did suicho? did he also struggle to manage his power? did he see himself in suiryu the way bang does in garou? bang and suicho were actively friends. how would their successors interact?

there’s a fundamental loss in their relationships with their mentors. suiryu lost his grandfather permanently. although garou hasn’t truly lost bang, the rift between them is intense. do they feel guilty? how does that guilt manifest? does it motivate them? how does it change them? can they find common ground in that guilt? can suiryu find some level of paternalistic guidance from bang? i mean, suiryu did want to be saitama’s disciple, so why not bang’s?

i think one of the easiest ways to explore these two would be to compare the dojos and their martial arts techniques. garou’s is centered on defense; bang specifically created it for the weak. suiryu’s void fist is intended to maximize damage. could bang’s technique teach suiryu something? we already know that you can have a distinct “voice” in combat based on how garou repeatedly reads intentions, so perhaps there’s something to be communicated by their respective martial arts styles that saitama was…well…not really able to read. hell, maybe they can combine these techniques to create a more well rounded martial arts style–after all, we’ve seen garou do it.

okay, i’ll stop myself here lmao. i also think it’d be interesting to contrast bat and garou since they also have a lot of similarities and key differences. and tbh i think the manga is planning to do that since it’s inserted so much more of bat and a lot of his screentime has been centered around garou. well, wanting to beat garou’s ass. but hey, teens will be teens.

bang’s attitude is almost verbatim what suiryu says in the tournament arc. wanting to live an easy life is definitely a Suiryu Trait ®

This! A HUGEEE part of Garou’s character is his blind and twisted form of justice. He actually has a higher purpose for his violence, albeit a foolish one. And his end goal is ultimately noble in an edgy teenager sort of way.

Bang is exactly like Suiryu in that he just wan to live an easy life, fight strong guys and get stronger. He has no purpose for his violence except doing whatever the heck he wants and getting whatever he wants. He even made fun of Bomb for continuing to do intense training. Intense training is 100% Garou’s thing.

Ah yes I remember, much of those are recognizably @hiruseki's words, and I've made similar posts on the topic here and here, including from another anon who copy/pasted some of those exact lines before.

By now though, there's probably much more potential for manga Garou & Suiryu to meet under very different circumstances. Much different than how their first meeting/confrontation/fight went in the wc. So if anything, I'm looking forward to how that might go this time around, and the changes ONE might do (most likely he will) to flesh out and expand those future interactions in the manga.

#opm #suiryu #bang #garou #megashadowdragon #replies #long text post #yes i remember - cause i've answered about it before #there's not much newly to be said however #except to just look forward to how their manga meeting might go very differently this time around

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ladysunamireads · 1 year

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I'm not in love (am I?)

I’m not in love (am I?) by Lady Irene

After getting an unexpected love confession from Marinette in “Weredad”, Adrien is trying to imagine what it would be like to date her.

Words: 537, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English

Fandoms: Miraculous Ladybug

Rating: Teen And Up Audiences

Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply

Categories: F/M

Characters: Adrien Agreste | Chat Noir, Plagg

Relationships: Adrien Agreste | Chat Noir/Marinette Dupain-Cheng | Ladybug

Additional Tags: Episode: s03 Papa-Garou | Weredad, POV Adrien Agreste | Chat Noir, Canon Divergence, Self-Indulgent, Falling In Love, Lovesick Adrien Agreste, Adrinette | Adrien Agreste/Marinette Dupain-Cheng, Marichat | Adrien Agreste as Chat Noir/Marinette Dupain-Cheng, Denial of Feelings

Read Here: https://archiveofourown.org/works/45369046

#AO3 Feed #FanFiction #AO3 Adrienette #♥#Adrienette #Marichat #Plagg #MLB #⚤#🐞🐱#R:T #Sick Fic #A:Lady Irene

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scary-senpai · 2 years

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Hm...how about "Best of All Possible Worlds"?

BESTIEEEE (cherished mutual, may I call you bestie?) YOU PICKED THE SADDEST, CEREBRAL-EST, MOST SELF-INDULGENT ONE!!!

Also, thank you for participating in my fanfic WIP ask game I posted in (checks notes) April. To look on the bright side, though, you can’t spell Executive Dysfunction without Fun, so... there’s that?

By the way, I thought both your WIPs sounded super cool--I’d love to see Atomic Samurai and Saitama switch disciples, and I think a lot of us are wondering which is more overwhelming: 3 regular students or one Genos. One Punch “Ham” series? Haha, that’s brilliant! I am here for the Dad jokes, and also any AU where Saitama has hair.

Anyway, if you recognize the phrase “Best of All Possible Words,” you probably know where this fic is going. If you don’t have 18th century philosophical rhetoric at top of mind, though, the phrase wouldn’t necessarily strike you as ironic. But if I tell you it’s about Genos and Dr. Kuseno, and it’s got major webcomic spoilers, you’ve probably figured out where this is going, and that it’s about to get very sad.

Because it contains webcomic spoilers, I put the content warnings below the cut. If this is too sad and you nope out, I won’t take offense. You also asked about “pure of heart, dumb of ass” story and that’s probably more like what you’re used to seeing from me: it’s mostly goofy and a little sad, but all’s well that ends well. I've posted snippets of that one before: “Game Night” (where Genos beats Garou at Monopoly, and Garou is both intrigued/appalled to find that Genos actually has a Lawful Evil streak) or this scene where Garou arrives early for dinner --Genos is at home cooking, but Saitama is walking Rover, and Genos realizes with mounting horror that he probably should have warned Garou about the uniqueness of their pets... Garou asks about all the half-burned chew-toys, and Genos tells him "although we do not have a dog, Rover is not entirely unlike a domesticated canine." Poor Garou gets really excited for Saitama to return with the puppers. He thinks he's going to meet a wolf. ^_^ Little does he know... Anyway, if you want to have your heart broken, you’re welcome to keep reading. Gome “¯\_(ツ)_/¯“

Content Warnings: Major character death, death of parents, thoughts of death, webcomic spoilers, hurt/no comfort.

We begin with denial. Even with six feet of dirt separating them, Genos finds himself compulsively scanning Kuseno’s grave for vital signs, futile and absurd though it is.

“But we cannot trace spirits (or even a single spirit, the spirit), because they don’t exist, and even if they do, we barely have the means to begin looking.”

Genos’ thoughts and theories regarding the afterlife are inseparable from memories of his father, who was a professor of Economics and Philosophy--that’s not canon, of course, that’s my OC... or (gh)O(st)C, if you will.

As you’ve gathered, Genos and his father are both quite cerebral, and they debated frequently, for fun.

His father liked to argue endlessly, eloquently--not that he actually believed in very much. These were thought exercises, nothing more.

People would say they were alike, he and his father--eloquent, tempestuous, uncompromising. But Genos grew up in a different world, one that was rapidly changing for the worst, and by the time he was old enough to truly follow his father’s rhetoric, things were different: debating ideals wasn’t enough. You had to live them.

This is where Candide comes in: it’s a book that Genos read and discussed with his father. Candide, or The Optimistic, is Voltaire’s seminal satire (and later, a Leonard Bernstein operetta) that grapples with what seems like the futility of hope. I’ll get into more details later--but for now, suffice to say that there’s a character called “Dr. Pangloss” who dies several times throughout the course of the novel, only to reappear at later points, flippantly laughing off any obvious distress displayed by his loyal student, Candide. Dr. Pangloss even has a catchphrase, but I’ll let Genos tell it:

People have survived worse. If only someone were here to chide him for his foolishness, his reckless thinking. His father, Dr. Kuseno...

...But it can’t be. It can’t, it just can’t.

The term “Panglossian” has made it into our vocabulary as the term for someone “characterized by or given to extreme optimism, especially in the face of unrelieved hardship or adversity.“

Through Candide, Voltaire lampoons his contemporaries--the Enlightenment philosophers who touted that science and reason would eventually bring about Absolute Truth, and subsequently a better world. But Voltaire has come for one scholar’s kneecaps in particular: Gottfried Leibniz, who came up with this whole “best of all possible worlds” thing. Leibniz believed that if (and this is real big “if”)-- if there is a loving God, then this MUST be the best of all possible worlds. Because, well, how could anything ever be otherwise? If you’re inclined to listen to the operetta, the song is pretty catchy:

CANDIDE: There is a reason For everything under the sun! MAXIMILLIAN: Objection! What about snakes? PANGLOSS: Snakes! 'Twas snake that tempted mother Eve Because of snake we now believe That though depraved We can be saved From hellfire and damnation (Because of snake's temptation!)

So essentially it’s a circular argument, right? It’s kind of a cruel, cosmic joke: the only world you have is the one that’s in front of you right now. In that sense, it is indeed the best, but only by the process of elimination. Which brings us to Eternal Return: the idea that every moment--past, present, and future--exist simultaneously, and constantly recur. There’s some debate on whether this is a multiverse/multiple endings deal (if I understand correctly), but to some extent it doesn’t matter: us puny humans perceive our existence in linear time. Once again, all we have is right now.

Still, Genos can’t help but thinking about it:

A world where they escaped, a world where they didn’t. A world where they never had to run from anything. A world unmarred, one he can’t imagine. And a world with his parents would mean, ostensibly, a world without Dr. Kuseno. So in that sense, he can only choose loss.

Understandably overwhelmed, Genos turns to his Sensei for insight:

“Do you believe there’s anything after this, Sensei?”

“No.” Saitama answers quickly, and only thinks about it after.

“...No,” Saitama says again, more assured this time. “I think this is it, Gen.”

Genos lowers himself to the ground, touching the earth.

“Are you sure this is what you want?” Saitama asks.

Saitama is referring to Kuseno’s final wish: that Genos would run far, far away from the violent life he’s made.

Genos spends some time considering the implications of this--there’s something comforting about the whole “ashes to ashes, dust to dust” thing, because we all return to the same thing, in the end, but... Genos won’t. Or, at least, it will take him a whole other eternity, because he no longer has his biological body.

Genos is not inclined to believe in more noumenal things, like spirits and souls, so he considers that he’s no longer like his father in body (even if has, in all forms, resembled his father), because he no longer has a biological body. In that sense, it’s almost as if he’s been made in Kuseno’s likeness--or, at least, fashioned by his hand. So Kuseno lives on in him, but only at the expense of something.

I tried to end it a bit hopeful and kinda Saigenos if you squint:

“Everything you love goes. Or you go,” Saitama says. “That’s just life, right?”

“But you won’t.”

There’s a pause--an unspoken moment not unlike someone speaking aloud a password, and waiting to be allowed in.

In the silence, Genos imagines his heart breaking. Would break, if it hadn’t already.

But enough of that, he thinks. I no longer have a heart.

Saitama sits on the ground beside him and takes a handful of earth, sifting the dirt through his fingers -- it slips through them like air, water, the things that pass through our hands with no hope of being held.

“No,” Saitama says at last. “I guess not, huh?”

And that’s how I feel about Saitama, especially lately--he says the right thing, kinda, but he tends to botch the delivery at least a bit.

I still haven’t worked out an ending, my notes say “something something universe left to cease and grow cold?” but I’d like to end it at least a little more hopeful than the inevitable heat death of the universe. That's kind of a lot.

I’ve always liked writing about Genos and Garou because they are two characters that aren’t going towards strength as much as they’re running away from weakness, and abandoning their human bodies has (for whatever reason) become a key part of that journey for them. That’s interesting when you consider that many responses to trauma live just as much as the body as the mind. Garou monsterizes because that’s his solution to never feeling strong in his human body (despite having objective evidence to the contrary) and (unless I’m mistaken) it’s never confirmed that Genos lost his body during the Mad Cyborg attack, just that his human body was too weak to achieve his goals.

Even if Genos wasn’t directly injured by the mad Cyborg, he did witness the attack-- which means it was likely a narrow miss. In any case, being exposed to the overall violence and un-safety of the world would understandably provoke overwhelming anxiety and fear as well as grief. You might decide to cope with that feeling of vulnerability by upgrading your body to something more durable. Likewise, if you were a scientist ethically conflicted about performing such extreme body modifications on a child, you might take into account the aggressive/reckless behavior that Genos demonstrates now--which is actually a very common trauma response. (This is what I perceive in Garou, as well--he's just a confused kid that has forgotten you can also get serotonin from hugs, not just near-death experiences.).

...I recently did a small (sad) fic exploring similar themes with Garou’s character. Since it’s my crack headcanon that they’re both from the same village, Garou also lost his mom in the attack. To describe the story in the most boring way possible, Garou notices that after his arm shatters and regenerates, and he returns to human form, all his scars are gone--including the ones from his childhood, and he has a lot of Feels about that, actually.

Thank you again for the ask! I really appreciate it, and I always love talking about my WIP. Happy writing ;)

#one punch man #opm #opm fanfic #genos #webcomic spoilers #angst #cw death #cw loss of parent #my writing #wilf

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sentimentalscientia · 1 year

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"Lucked out then. Nine times outta ten, names are a shot in the dark. Can't predict who someone is gonna be when they're five minutes old." In most cases. In his, well... someone should've seen the writing on the wall.

Kelly hadn't intended to make small talk but maybe it was helping his case. Just a couple of years ago he wouldn't have bothered, he would've just taken the first chance to get the hell out of Dodge. I owe Leslie a drink, he thought to himself.

His brows knit. "Human allies?" Yeahhhh. Definitely not Garou. Humans could barely handle their own shit. The second they caught a whiff of something outside their worldview, they fell into one of two traps: denial or aggression.

"That's a lot of faith to put in a species with such a limited scope."

“I suppose that is true. Though in fairness one name was given when he was a teenager. When we could see the potential. Then again it was technically a joke.” The reminder made the ancient smile. A laugh stifled on his lips. Though his attention shifting fully back to the other wolf. To the confusion flickering across that face.

“Like ever other species, they exist on a spectrum. I do not put blind faith into the collective as a whole. I make note of individuals. Judge them on their own merits. As I would do with any other creature. Humans can be…temperamental. But they can also be wondrous. They can be adaptable. Compassionate. My father in law is human and he is one of the most cunning things I have ever met. He has a more fragile physique but that has never stopped him. Frankly I’m glad he was of a mind that supernaturals should be judged on actions rather than lineage.”

#thehighlandhealer #itsuki #kelly

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ao3feed-ladynoir · 1 year

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I'm not in love (am I?)

I’m not in love (am I?) by Lady Irene

After getting an unexpected love confession from Marinette in “Weredad”, Adrien is trying to imagine what it would be like to date her.

Words: 537, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English

Fandoms: Miraculous Ladybug

Rating: Teen And Up Audiences

Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply

Categories: F/M

Characters: Adrien Agreste | Chat Noir, Plagg

Relationships: Adrien Agreste | Chat Noir/Marinette Dupain-Cheng | Ladybug

Read Here: https://archiveofourown.org/works/45369046

#AO3 Feed #FanFiction #AO3 Adrienette #💚#🐱#💖#Adrienette #Marichat #Miraculous Ladybug #♥#R:T #A:Lady Irene #Sick Fic

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theomnicode · 2 years

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So I'm reading again about psychoanalysis and defence mechanisms. Because of my own theory about Sai's powers since we already saw him able to interact with portals and shit that breaks common sense already.

Among the purposes of ego defence mechanisms is to protect the mind/self/ego from anxiety or social sanctions or to provide a refuge from a situation with which one cannot currently cope

And there are like 4 different levels of defence mechanisms for the ego: Mature, Neurotic, Immature and Pathological.

Level I – pathological defences (psychotic denial, delusional projection)

Level II – immature defences (fantasy, projection, passive aggression, acting out)

Level III – neurotic defences (intellectualization, reaction formation, dissociation, displacement, repression)

Level IV – mature defences (humour, sublimation, suppression, altruism, anticipation)

I have a feeling we only went down max like 1.5 levels defence systems Saitama has to protect his psyche in Garou fight, to cope with what happened in the external world.

And that if we ever go all the way down to pathological level, Saitama would be insane and in psychosis.

When predominant, the mechanisms on this level are almost always severely pathological. These defences, in conjunction, permit one effectively to rearrange external experiences to eliminate the need to cope with reality. Pathological users of these mechanisms frequently appear irrational or insane to others. These are the "pathological" defences, common in overt psychosis.

Now what might possibly happen if Saitama's psyche ever gets pushed that far:

Delusional projection: Delusions about external reality, usually of a persecutory nature

Denial: Refusal to accept external reality because it is too threatening; arguing against an anxiety-provoking stimulus by stating it does not exist; resolution of emotional conflict and reduction of anxiety by refusing to perceive or consciously acknowledge the more unpleasant aspects of external reality

Distortion: A gross reshaping of external reality to meet internal needs

Conversion: The expression of an intrapsychic conflict as a physical symptom; examples include blindness, deafness, paralysis, or numbness. This phenomenon is sometimes called hysteria.

Splitting: A primitive defence. Both harmful and helpful impulses are split off and segregated, frequently projected onto someone else. The defended individual segregates experiences into all-good and all-bad categories, with no room for ambiguity and ambivalence. When "splitting" is combined with "projecting", the undesirable qualities that one unconsciously perceives oneself as possessing, one consciously attributes to another

Oh yea that sounds kind of bad. We'd go straight to reality-warping if he ever went into psychosis.

Mob Psycho ??? moment, with no ability to actually interact with him because he'd refuse to accept external reality by denying it exits.

Actually it would be far, far worse than Mob's ??? moment, I mean dimple reasoned Mob out of the state because his cognitive level was not affected I think.

Distorting and grossly reshaping the external reality to meet his internal needs.

Delusions of external reality, usually of persecutory nature, basically thinking everyone is against him, which ties well with paranoia.

Splitting and projecting, attributing his undesirable qualities to another person and segregating everything into categories of good or bad.

Acting out on his impulses and hostility, everyone would become enemy based on whether he feels they are good or bad.

In short: Everyone becomes enemy and reality does his bidding.

Wonder if Blast or someone else would push him this far or if it would be God. I have a feeling we're gonna see this happen at some point though. Just like how he dissociated when Genos was killed and went neurotic. Only a matter of time.

#opm #one punch man #opm meta #saitama #psychoanalysis #defense mechanism #psychology #psyche #opm prediction

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askopm · 2 years

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Hey how limp are Garou’s wrists

IM NOT GAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I HATE GAY PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

- Mod Garou

#off the rails #LMAO #garou homo in denial.#garou #opm #asks

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tt-vision · 5 years

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cough

#one punch man #opm #ワンパンマン #garou #tareo #sketch #in denial

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standreamy · 2 years

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“Fertile Ashes Au” As Marichat gets stronger day by day, Ladynoir limps on its uncertain path. Thanks to her bonding with Chat as civilian and him becoming her pillar after the stress of being guardian drove her away from most friends after they separated to go to high school, Ladybug realised her mistakes in their partnership before and after taking the guardianship. No one knows her identity, but she wishes more than ever she could come clean with him and enjoy what they have as Marinette and Chat.

However, Hawk Moth becomes more brutal with each attack and well... if she wished to reveal on a side, on the other it terrifies her. She talks to him, tries to be a better partner, but their friendship and whatever bond there was is rebooting and uncertain as ever, with her needing to confirm by action her words of faith. And the rift between drove him away enough from her to being difficult crossing the already fragile and mere line of friendship.

He drifted away and concentrated more on himself and Marinette. The same she did with Adrien after his father made him skip a grade in high school and they got separated from being classmates.

She never felt so close yet so far. And after a long period of denial and gradual falling in love, nurturing those feelings... she got totally mindblown. She was close to him as Marinette, but as Ladybug they were always on a thin line and she couldn’t just let the walls down because their bond under that form was so broken. And well, acting normal while hints are thrown at your face that feelings are changing... is very difficult.

These are sketches of one of the situations she had with him while realising she is in love with Chat and trying to settle with the feeling.

André just wanted them to get an ice cream to thank them for rescuing him after being reakumatizated, and it ended up sending message to their minds. Ladybug recognises her ice cream is about Chat, and that his is about Marinette. Chat only gets his points at Mari, but doesn’t notice or pay attention to Ladybug’s so he doesn’t get it.

Reminder! This is set at the end of season 3, after Papa Garou, so most of what comes after and all season 4 is not canon to this AU and it didn’t happen. Alya doesn’t know about Marinette’s secret yet, Ladynoir naturally drifted apart for what happened before season 4 and during the 2 years time skip of the Au. What happened between them wasn’t as extreme as in season 4 and didn’t just explode in one shot, as also Ladybug’s actions weren’t SO extreme. Things were just bound to get a bit messy with the lack of communication and each’s personal issues.

It’s based on the concept of Marichat being friends and bonding with time, with him visiting her after it was enstablished! Luka and Kagami only had crushes on Marinette and Adrien, but in the end they stayed friends only.

Marinette and Chat’s bond only deepened after Adrinette and Ladynoir drifted apart.

Chat still cares a lot about LB as friend but there is a big wall between them. He doesn’t stay too much to engage and simply let things go their own way professionally. He doesn’t want to get hopes up that she won’t hide things from him anymore, Standing his ground would be easier if things got messy again.

He has no idea also that her feelings changed, since she still tries to not get her Marinette self out. Her focus is get their close bond back and she IS more affectionate and caring, but is very careful to not let her romantical feelings for him slip. When they do, he doesn’t really notice

#marichat #ladynoir #MLB Fertile Ashes #mlb fanart #miraculous #post papa garou #post weredad

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the-nysh · 2 years

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I don’t like how fans characterise Garou as a touch starved person who would reject x person for physically and emotionally trying to get close to him. We have already seen in the manga how he didn’t push away Tareo for clinging to his leg (except a tsundere-esque verbal rebuke) and he didn’t shake off his employer slinging his arm across his shoulder either. The boy craves social acceptance and validation so why would he reject it lol?

Have you...been seeing fics where he rejects contact like that from s/o's lately or something? Cause of those examples, the biggest difference is that people like Tareo (and Bang) and his wc employer are not complete strangers to him either. So the level of familiarity/closeness matters on whether he'd allow, initiate, avoid, brush off, or simply tolerate the physical contact from others. :O Otherwise he will keep some level/awareness of his defensive guard up (yes, even when the employer was being friendly/non-threatening with him) so strangers suddenly spooking, shooting at, or targeting him from behind is a bad idea.

Cause it's not like Garou's touch-adverse; you don't see him physically recoil in disgust/shame or shy away from general human contact (as if in pain from a trauma response yet) or anything like that, you just rarely see him initiate it (ie outwardly show 'softness' in front of others) that much either. Which is WHY him voluntarily reaching out for Bang was so important, cause it showed that at least on an emotional level, Garou's growing more ready to open up with the willingness to reconnect and reconcile with his old man. Craving that distant acceptance/validation/approval that's always tragically eluded him he's likely never fully received from him, yes. Which is an improvement showing progress on Garou's side, even if Garou himself still has doubts on how the Bang he knows would believably treat him. :') (Until god completely fucked it up.)

But aside from the other examples of Garou voluntarily patting Tareo's head or carrying him by the scruff of his shirt instead of like a human child?? lol (the anime also added more moments like Garou grabbing Tareo's shoulder to stop him from going outside the shed into danger; in the manga, Garou just verbally warned him), in general Garou primarily keeps his distance and a hands off approach (beyond fighting) if he can help it. Or at least tries to maintain a certain level of distance away.

Why? Because when he sees himself a monster, notice how he prefers to keep innocents like Tareo uninvolved from his business. :O That's a key thing, because even if his inner human side doesn't want to reject it, he doesn't like seeing people like Tareo (those he cares about) dragged into danger, or affected by the 'misery' he brings, even more. (You saw how pissed he got at Death Gatling for firing towards the shed and at Sludge Jellyfish for taking Tareo hostage. “The kid has nothing to do with this!”)

But I think especially in Tareo's case (who has special 'close' privileges anyway that Garou would allow him to do without complaint, besides all his tsun denials), it's very important and noteworthy that Garou doesn't raise a hand or physically push Tareo away, or even step away from Tareo clinging to him either. :')) (Even if he tells Tareo to step back instead.) BECAUSE in my eyes, I see that as Garou not wanting to accidentally hurt him!!! ;o; So he makes no move that would unnecessarily endanger him until Saitama provokes him, oop. So in his right self-aware state of mind, Garou tries to be careful about that, especially towards those he cares about and wants to protect.

However, as long as that 'monster' self-perception persists (where he sees himself a 'bad' person undeserving the positive treatment or care/closeness of others), he'll keep that certain air of distance and defensive wall up to prevent even those he cares about (like Tareo) from getting too close to him. Not necessarily to protect himself from getting emotionally hurt, which is one thing, but mainly so that they don't get indirectly hurt or unnecessarily involved because of him. :')) Even if that conflicts with Garou’s better nature and inner human desires concerning what he actually wants....well, you can see which one he weighs more (hint: it’s not his own emotional needs/health he prioritizes) that’s ‘best’ for their sake. BUT remove that self-alienating barrier, and allow Garou to see it’s safe & ok to be more emotionally honest selfish with himself, and then we’d see more significant progress on that front.

#opm #garou #tareo #bang #anonymous #replies #once again the length of this thing got ahead of me #but there's a lot more going on to explain the dilemmas of his behavior

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g4rous · 2 years

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Garou having a crush (fluff headcanons)

Ask: Hey, You do garou headcanons, right? I was wondering how Garou would act if he ever had a crush on someone? (If you’ve already done this or don’t wanna write it then just ignore this)

Heyy! <3 I didn’t write hcs for this specific theme before but in some earlier works I did add some parts of what could go along with this lol so there’ll probably be a few familiar thingies here but I hope you enjoy nonetheless! 💕💞💓 A lovestruck Garou is all I can think about now sjdjdhhjdhdff

-A couple of times before I wrote that he’d only start developing feelings for someone after an amount of bonding

-Doesn’t necessarily mean chatting for 4 hours straight but rather he just needs to know the person. Genuinely.

-If they acted sweet from the beginning of their interactions some suspicion would cross his mind. Is he being deceived? Don’t blame him he’s been through a lot :’)

-Appearance isn’t really the first thing that makes him swoon (though trust me, later he’ll admire the person and all their beauty with every glance)

-Due to many reasons, before he didn’t think much of relationships or getting into one. However, imagine being in one where he could be and express himself without judgment, maybe finally understood for once?

-Seems pretty neat, truth be told

-If he were to find a person sincere and accepting, kind and without some shallow façade then boom

-The on-first-sight unapproachable badass is catching feelings

-How can you tell? Let me begin ;)

-He may not be exactly chatty with others, but would try sparking up a conversation with you

-And if you two have a bunch of similar things you enjoy talking about he’ll put so much enthusiasm into it you couldn’t help but chuckle at his lit up grin

-A bystander would get incredibly perplexed upon witnessing that gloomy-looking teen turning into an adorable grinning nerd that fast

-Even though he prefers to listen to you talk more, he just can’t help but get thrilled over the fact you have common views AND you’re interested in hearing what he has to say

-Speaking of which, is very observant about your interests and the things you like

-Some days he might get a bit quiet because he’s just busy looking at what makes you happy

-Don’t get surprised if one day he decided to take you to that place you briefly mentioned wanting to go to weeks ago

-Isn’t an overthinker but in all honesty more than once he’s been left dumbfounded on which way to show you he cares

-Is hanging out and listening to you really enough? In a way he can’t help but get a feeling that maybe he should do more

-Casually helps you out with the smallest things (even something cliché and silly like opening a jar or bottle), stares at you while you’re not looking, often speaks in a softer voice and let’s not forget about playful banter and teasing

-Always tries to find an excuse to be near you. Usually it isn’t obvious but if you were to point it out he’d just shrug it off of course

-“Huh? Maybe if you spoke louder I wouldn’t have to get this close all the time.”

-One important thing that needs to be added is that he is actually quite aware about his feelings. Has been from the start, even if he found them initially incomprehensible and odd

-Despite any in-the-first place denial, he’s no dimwit I assure you

-Takes some time getting used to the fluff is all

-And just as he’s naturally tenacious and devoted to something he deems important, this extends to the person he’s crushing on as well

-Isn’t the type of person to do anything half-assed

-Really, he wouldn’t even look at someone else. Why would he since all he wants to look at is you 💗

#garou headcanons #one punch man #opm #garou #opm x reader #garou x reader #one punch man x reader #garou opm #garo #opm headcanons #one punch man fluff #one punch man headcanons

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scary-senpai · 2 years

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What’s in a name?

Words are hard. Really.

Words are essentially symbols with collectively agreed-upon meanings, which implies that spoken dialogue is a puzzle we have to decode. To complicate things, every word is (at least) two toned: it has both a denotation (the literal/primary meaning — i.e. its agreed-upon, dictionary definition) and a connotation (the feelings and associations it evokes in each individual person).

We all have our own little dictionary in our heads, which grows with us and evolves over time. It’s why “Forgive me, Father, I have sinned” hits differently than “Sorry, Daddy, I’ve been naughty” — and whether someone interprets the latter example as innocent or salacious might provide some insight into their headspace. (No judgement, though!)

Anyway, where am I going with this?

In this scene, Tareo defines “hero” as a good person and a “monster” as the baddie. There’s a lot going on in here (some of which might be denial), but it’s entirely possible that Garou can’t take Tareo’s compliment because he doesn’t hear it as a compliment.

Remember, Garou has yet to meet a decent hero -- so from Garou’s perspective, the term “hero” refers to the popular jerk-offs that have free reign to act as judge, jury, and executioner -- which is not at all a concept that he wants to embody. To Garou, the “monster” is everyone who’s been “othered” and outed from a group, all those who have never been offered a chance to win.

So, combine that context with this panel, and...

What Garou actually seems to be saying saying is: I want the underdogs, the outcasts —everyone— to understand that they matter, that their goals are worthy, and that they are capable of making a difference.

Which is a message that Garou believes he wouldn’t be able to send, if he were to officially side with the heroes at this moment. Heroes win because they’re supposed to, not necessarily because they work for it. In one of Garou’s flashbacks, he asks his father when there will be a monster strong enough to defeat Justice Man. His father tells him, basically, “never -- heroes always win.” This is the barebones explanation you’d expect a parent to give a child of that age, but interestingly, there’s almost an element of predestination in this answer, so perhaps Garou carried this idea well into adulthood. If that’s the case, then that would explain why he’s so excited about Madam Shibawa’s prophesy: the stars have finally aligned in his favor. (But alas, dear Brutus Garou, the fault lies not within the stars but within ourselves, that we are underlings…)

To complicate things, in this universe there is actually a legal/official definition of hero -- and it’s being monopolized by an objectively shady org. It’s more than a noun with various connotations, it’s a title (a denotation): it’s a paid job, governed by its own regulating entity. (One might argue that paid heroes creates creates a significant conflict of interest: they have no incentive to fully eliminate monsters, because it would put them out of work... but that’s a story for another day). From what we’ve seen, the Hero Association is patently unfair; far from being a cooperative environment, it has some questionable corporate practices and it’s not above bullying its own. And, again, these are the people that made “heroes” into an official and standardized profession as opposed to a philosophical concept. And, as far as they’re concerned, you’re either with ‘em or against ‘em: That’s what Tareo’s Hero Almanac says: anybody that calls themselves a hero but hasn’t yet registered with the Hero Association is just some pervy weirdo in a costume, and you should probably report them immediately. And Garou knows all about the toxicity at the HA, too -- from his own research and lived experience, including his recent conversation with Death Gatling. So, in that context, I can see why Garou initially balks at being lumped in with those guys. “What, me? Side with them? Do I look like someone who cares about ranking and a fucking merch deal? I’m out here getting shit done, that’s all I care about.”

Perhaps most poignantly, Garou knows that, in order to be a hero, somebody else has to be cast as the monster.

Good vs. Evil, Heroes vs. Monsters... these concepts, as they are traditionally understood, can’t exist independently. What’s Batman without the Joker, or God without the Devil, after all? (In one of my favorite books, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ, the Devil goes so far as to broker a deal with God, arguing this exact same thing: wherever I go, you go; as my influence spreads, so does yours. So let’s pretend to fight, and become friends for real.) But to shove some poor sap into a villain role, just because your hero story can’t stand on its own? Garou wouldn’t wish that on his worst enemy.

Speaking of which... this binary thinking that Tareo is doing? It’s innocent and well-intentioned, sure, but picking sides has always been a squick for Garou. He’d rather people look beyond the binary, and consider the facts at hand:

As George Orwell so famously wrote in Animal Farm, “All men may be created equal, but some are more equal than others.” Us vs. Them is a meaningless game that begins with labels and ends without winners. Garou doesn’t want to play anymore.

#one punch man #opm #manga spoilers #opm spoilers #garou #meta #one punch man is a story about perception bias in this essay i will #literati

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