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fuzziemutt · 8 months

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On the views of Rio in relation to Miguel within fandom

There's something I'm commonly seeing that has been worrying me which is the depictions of Rio "latina mom-ing" Miguel.

This includes Rio:

- slapping him

- coming at him with "the chancla"

- "dressing him down" verbally or yelling

- humiliating him

- straight up just... Beating him up

And I'm bringing this up because guys... This shit be low-key racist. I know racism towards latines has already been a problem (Yes. I am gesturing to the everything that is how Miguel is treated within the fandom), but I personally wanted to bring up this issue as well as I'm unsure if others have talked about it- and we all know how suck ass searching anything on this site is.

Anyways, I won't lie. I don't know how many latines are making these jokes, but it being so prevalent being her "main" interactions makes me feel even if it started as a latine joke, it sure as hell didn't stay that way.

But the depiction of Latina women as fierce, aggressive and (yes it is) straight up physically abusive (in general words) is a major fucking Problem. Latinas are often depicted in media as these "feisty exotic women" who takes no shit. Perpetuating that with Rio does not feel as #girl power as you guys might think. It feels like a step back in treating latinas not as these power houses but as... Y'know... People who aren't depicted as aggressors 24/7....

But also I really hate this cutesy look at what is a serious issue within latine communities. It's always "ha ha funny" seeing a Latina mom beating someone's ass but guys. That is still physical abuse. That is a serious issue and discussion that is held within the latine community. And seeing it so casually assigned to Rio kind of makes me feel sick.

And this isn't even tacking on that you're having a Latina beating/acting aggressive towards a canonical child abuse survivor (yes. Miguel is a child abuse survivor.) Which adds a whole new layer of how shitty this actually is.

Because I hate how people are boiling Rio down to just being an aggressor towards Miguel to "put him in his place". That's discrediting her character so badly.

Yes, latinas can be strong. Yes, latinas can be angry. Yes, latinas can get aggressive.

These are things people are and do because people are complex.

But I really need the fandom to stop for a second and really think about how they saw Rio, witnessed her give her heart on the screen, - a mom who's trying so hard to break these cycles of yelling and humiliation with kindness and understanding (even being a foil to Jeff's strong headed approach on purpose) -

took her and said "she would perpetuate a real cycle of abuse towards a fellow latino because he's the 'bad one'" and laughed.

I know you guys are depicting her like this as a means to defend Miles, but maybe not like this. Her character doesn't deserve being so bastardized like this for your stolen joke.

(which this whole "need" to defend him in the first place points right back to the racism towards Miguel if we're honest. I have complex thoughts on Miguel's interactions with Miles especially involving the end train scene but boiling a traumatized Latino man down to just being an "aggressive threat" that needs to be "put in place" as I've mentioned above is racist as hell too.)

You guys can reblog this, but don't fucking guilt trip people into reblogging this okay? I'm not giving you brownie points for that shit.

#i speak #spiderverse #across the spiderverse #rio morales #miguel o'hara

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cosmics-beings · 6 months

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i feel like, in attempting to pin a single "ultimately guilty party" between starscream and megatron, people seem to miss that their story is one of the cycle of abuse. they both perpetrate violence that they were exposed to, as a result of or way to cope with their own trauma. this is a very real phenomenon. i still remember when i was about nine or ten and realized that my abuser's mother was also like that, and he was probably just repeating the way he was raised. its not an excuse for any parties involved. people can be both victims and perpetrators of abuse and neither role diminishes the other. their own abuse is still traumatizing, and the abuse they inflict on others is also still traumatizing. you cant pin one person in the cycle as "ultimately at fault" and absolve everyone else of guilt. people are more complicated than that.

also yeah i bet if nova and fem!skywarp were TC and masc!skywarp like in the og, people would be like nooo how can he treat his trine that way-- but people dont care about nova and fem!warp. they see starscream mistreating them and just shrug. fans have a problem with being unable to assign interiority to female characters unless guided there, so i suspect fans are just... not thinking about how that treatment would affect the girls. if it were a male character being mistreated they'd go "nooo he's gonna let that affect his self worth" or something but fans never really do this for female characters, they just take everything at face value. like oh she was kicked. huh. hey starscream is on screen again

I think ultimately, this is exactly what Earthspark is trying to do, I just don't really think the fandom caught that, which would be okay if there weren't a lot of harmful thoughts being perpetrated that skewed victims.

This is why, despite people being upset that Megatron has a redemption arc in Earthspark, I'm glad he does. Because he is also an abuse victim, he has to live with the trauma, and now he is breaking that cycle or can, in his own way. Because now he also has support and family. He doesn't have to fight, he doesn't have to exist in an abusive dynamic or relationship. He's free.

Likewise, Starscream is also breaking that cycle. But it only works if you acknowledge it. That's why I absolutely hated people attempting to argue away the fact that Starscream were abusive to Skywarp and Nova, because this is a cycle of abuse, that needs to be broken and you cannot sit there and try to act like it doesn't happen.

Because the wider part of the episode is that both Megatron and Starscream, who were victims of abuse and hurt each other, and other people, literally DECIDED to end it there. I think that Earthspark is trying to show us that, that abuse is far more complex, especially when you have two people who are victims of abuse and acting out because of it.

They both decided to stop, and to do better. And in order for that to work, you have to also acknowledge that it's a cycle and in a cycle, everyone is to blame when they start hurting others. This isn't excusing Megatron and it's certainly not excusing Starscream.

and :Re the misogyny regarding skywarp and nova--it just gets me really upset. Because it was a teaching moment and the fandom missed it. not only did they miss it they tried to explain away why that was okay, why him treating them the way he did (which is probably something starscream did for YEARS!) was okay. Like again, that is the cycle that is being perpetrated that you literally cannot ignore or attempt to excuse. And it was such a perfect teaching moment for the fans and they ignored it.

Most fandoms, no matter how progressive they claim to be aren't really going to care about female characters especially if they're used in a male character's narrative. Hashtag is usually just reduced to propping up Starscream, and Nova and Warp are just seen as extension of his narrative, which is literally what happens with female character.

The episode was spelled out plain as day that the way he treated them wasn't okay and he needed to be held accountable, but like you said, people just shrugged.

#again i love starscream #but i don't like misogyny #and the whole hashtag situation really rubs me the wrong way #but also the skywarp and novastorm #i WILL NEVER forget that person getting mad at people calling out how starscream treated the rest of his trine

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mortal-peril · 6 months

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There is nothing that implies that joey is underage however with susie from the start of development it was pretty clear that susie WAS INTENDED to be a minor due to her looks and personality but BHVR had to age her to be 18 because in some platforms it's illegal to violence against minors so BHVR claims everyone is 18 (including victor) also some of your logic doesn't make sense because

it's implied that Frank has been in Ormond for 3 years which means that Frank was most likely 16 when he arrived so therefore he would still be in school.

minors and adults can still be friends you know and it's not like the legion has a drastic age gap between them because when that anon was saying Joey and Susie are minors the anon was most likely trying to say that Joey and Susie are aged between 17 - 16.

just because a character is fictional it doesn't give you an excuse to sexualize a minor because fiction does effects reality so don't use that shit excuse to sexualize a minor

(i'm not trying to stop you from sexualise since she is cannonicly 18 but I personally think that you're a weirdo for sexualzing a character that was IMPILED to be underage)

I think you're absolutely the same Anon, ngl. I don't have that much engagement, if you didn't notice.

Why does that matter if he was in school IN THE PAST? That's part of my argument, actually.

Dude, if he's 19, hanging around 16/15 year olds, as the cosmetic implies, that's actually weird. Scratch that, it's predatory in his case, considering he kind of became their cult leader. Also, don't you see how insane what you're doing is? You're actively finding arguments as to why she potentially could be a minor, that are just what you made up reading the canon, because you want to restrict me writing about her. Are you serious?

The fact that we're having this discussion in the first place should tell you how unimportant the ages of fictional characters are. Ages of real life minors are not up to debate. Fictional characters, on the other hand, cannot be even minors. They will never have the ability to consent. Yall assign too much personhood onto an OBJECT meant to entertain you.

It astounds me you're coming at me with this "fiction affects reality" bullshit in a fandom about murderers. Oh no, the ficional character that will stalk you and tear your guts out may or may not be underage. Be fr. If you think that, and play horror games, you're a dangerous weirdo. My work has tagged noncon, will have tagged sadism and abuse. Because as I said, I'm not making this vanilla. Again, it astounds me that you think I would care, with this as the main work here.

Separate fiction from reality, as the rest of the world does. It was a standard practice and still should be because this parasocial ass relationship with fiction is weird. Stop with this "video games cause violence" argument. And if you think that, don't interact with horror, because that lowkey makes me think you're dangerous, and normalized violence in your head. Which is particularly disgusting, considering current events.

#horror #slashers #slashers x reader #susie the legion #susie lavoie #fanfic

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rotationalsymmetry · 9 months

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Long post! (fandom "choose violence" ask game.) (tolkien/avatar the last airbender/star trek deep space nine/steven universe (positive)/Discworld.)

3. Hmm. Thing is, there are so many different ways to be incredibly wrong. There's having the writer's intent completely whoosh by you -- right now I'm not thinking of a tumblr post, I'm thinking of the George RR Martin vs JRR Tolkien Epic Rap Battle of History with the "'everyone knows who's going to die by page and age 5" line, which is...really not accurate. In LOTR, the death fake-outs are pretty compelling and Gandalf actually does die, it's just that he also comes back. And that's the only story that this criticism comes even close to being accurate for. In the hobbit? I actually remembered this one wrong. I remembered it as all the dwarves living. Because that's how that kind of story is, right? All the good guys live. And they don't.

And that's not getting into the Silmarillion, where the answer to "who's going to die?" is "very nearly everyone, and justice and virtue have nothing to do with it." Or rather, characters who suck at virtue are perhaps more likely to die, but lots of characters who are pretty awesome and have done nothing wrong in their entire lives also die. Basically every take about Tolkien being all fluffy and "the good guys get rewarded and the bad guys get punished" is...not really based in what Tolkien wrote, and every depressing thing in Song of Ice and Fire is also in the Silm (often not spelled out quite as graphically) and just assigned different meaning.

And then there's bad ethical takes, eg basically every criticism against Steven Universe or interpreting Aang's refusal to kill Ozai as being about PC lives are more valuable than NPC lives/ the lives of the powerful are more valuable than the lives of ordinary people, in a show that does the best job ever of showing scenery characters from all walks of life as real people. And bad takes about what fiction is for, like anything connected to the idea that it's more virtuous to only read books (or watch shows) whose writers all have the same worldviews as you. (And the indirect fallout of this, that saying anything critical whatsoever about a book/show or connecting an attitude in a book/show with an attitude that causes harm IRL means you think people should not be reading or watching it.)

And then there's things like "clearly people who like talking about (fandom) only consume that book/show/type of show." Eg "people who only watch children's shows"... people can watch both children's shows and adult oriented shows, and I would guess that the vast majority of adults who watch some children's shows also watch adult shows. So why act as though talking about children's shows means a person doesn't watch shows meant for adults? It's because you're trying to insult people, yeah? Get people to shut up by publicly shaming them perhaps?

7. I haven't really, but I have a massive pet peeve around how people talk about Toph. And I hate hate hate how much of the fan art of her shows her dressed super feminine. Like OK she can if she wants to be. But the only time we see her dressed anything like that in the show is when she''s living with her parents. That's a Toph who's not being allowed to be herself.

Ahh this is reminding me of more bad takes. People are so weird about Ursa in the ATLA fandom, and often equally weird about Tenzin and sibs talking about their parents in Korra. It's like some people will allow children infinite forgiveness for any action whatsoever (even when, as with Azula, those children wield adult levels of power over other people's lives) but parents have to be 100% perfect or else they're abusive. No middle ground. No room for compassion or understanding their circumstances. Worst (Set of) Take(s) Ever.

Wait. No. I answered this wrong. Miles O'Brien. Specifically in Deep Space 9. Miles the character = fine character, reasonably likeable, goes through a very impressive amount of shit. Miles as the fandom see him...hoo boy. You get one white male on screen and suddenly every interaction he has, some fans can only see his perspective and not anyone else's. (Especially, apparently, if his conflicts tend to be with his wife, who has the audacity to not only be female, but also an Asian woman who doesn't conform to submissive sex-doll stereotypes. Clearly she must be in the wrong about everything (sarcasm).)

8. Uh, see above. Kids can do things that are morally wrong/harmful to others even though they are kids and it is more understandable when they do things wrong because they're learning and growing and it's harder for them to resist their family/culture/etc. Adults can do things that are morally wrong but in an understandable way too. There isn't a bright line where under 18 or w/e people have no moral culpability whatsoever and over 18 they'd better be perfect or else. The ability to become a parent in particular does not automatically grant adults the ability to not do things that harm their children in any way provided they're trying hard enough. Parents can be basically decent people who are trying their best and still leave their kids with eg a sense that one child was favored over the others, or a sense that their love was conditional, etc.

11. Three apparently? And those are for fandoms I'm not in. Generally if I've specifically chosen to follow someone for fandom reasons, I like what they have to say most of the time.

23. Vimes/Vetinari. Thanks A03.

Also...I don't particularly like Kataang in the show, it felt forced to me, but some of the fan content about them is really sweet.

#ask game #thank you!

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traincat · 2 years

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What, if any, mental illness(es) do you consider Kaine to have? I would think about PTSD after pre and post Clone Saga but I've heard people argue psychosis among other things so I was curious. Thanks 8) (I couldn't figure out if this ask was more appropriate for you or avengers files so sorta asked both of you...hope that's okay)

I think people might argue that Kaine experienced some kind of psychosis because Kaine himself suggests that during the Clone Saga/pre-Spider Island when he states that the clone degeneration affected both his body and his mind. (And his soul. He also specifies his soul. Let's not leave the melodrama out of here.) He references himself as being "driven mad" by the pain, and expresses a general awareness that the degeneration is affecting his ability to make decisions and/or think clearly. Personally, I'm not very interested in trying to diagnose Kaine with anything myself, because I'm not a mental health professional and I think that it can sometimes be unhelpful in fandom to cite a particular fanon diagnosis that isn't strongly backed up by the canon. You could read into Kaine's description of his own suffering for sure, but I don't know if I would say the text explicitly backs up or suggests anything specific.

(Spider-Man Redemption #1)

I also think Kaine tends to dramatize his own story during the Clone Saga, and that he's not 100% a reliable narrator. He can say that he was driven mad by the pain, but how much of that is a young and inexperienced person attempting to either assign meaning or cast aspersions against himself towards his part in someone else's terrible game? For example, I think it's easy for both fans and writers to say he was experiencing some kind of breakdown when he killed Louise in The Lost Years, but it's very clear if you look at the actual story that he knows what he's doing. The problem with this specific incident is that Kaine is so caught up in proving to himself that he hates Ben that he can't reconcile that he killed Louise to save Ben after the fact. Kaine comes from the Peter model of it being less helpful generally to look at what he says or what he thinks about himself and more helpful to look at his specific actions. Kaine is pretty clearly not well during the Clone Saga, especially during Redemption which is his final act in that particular story, but I think it's also very clear he's aware of the decisions he's making, and that he's making them based on the specific but limited information he possessed. (Which is wrong information, but he doesn't know that, and I think Kaine's in an interesting position in the Clone Saga as a character who doesn't have information or possesses wrong information in a way where the reader at the time didn't have any more cards than he did, and why it's important to note in discussing the Clone Saga and Kaine that he honestly believed Ben was the original and that Peter was the other clone and that this is the driving force behind many of his actions.)

On the subject of PTSD, though, yeah, I think Kaine very definitely has that, stemming primarily back to the abuse he suffered from the Jackal. Rather than try to diagnose him with anything, I think for me it's more interesting to talk about the depths of Kaine's trauma. One of the really interesting things that Redemption does is that it explicitly parallels Janine and Kaine, with Ben himself repeatedly saying that Kaine, specifically, should be able to understand Janine's pain and suffering at the hands of her abusive father, and with the further implication that Kaine should be able to understand what Janine did to survive which, for those who haven't read The Lost Years, was kill her father. (Feels like Spider-Man Beyond PROBABLY should have brought that up for readers by now.)

(Spider-Man Redemption #4) While Kaine himself references the abuse and humiliation he suffered at the hands of the Jackal, this implies also that Ben is aware of it, and that in Ben's eyes the abuse that he himself suffered, or that he is aware of suffering, was less so than what he knows was inflicted on Kaine, which is super interesting! I don't know how Ben would know this or be so certain of this! But it's definitely something to think about in part because Ben seems very sure of this information. And I think so much of who Kaine is, specifically the self-hatred he harbors and the empathy he later shows towards young abused women and human trafficking victims in his own Scarlet Spider solo, stems back to that abuse. He very clearly views himself as broken, which again, to go back to the Janine parallels, is something he directly says to her:

(Spider-Man Redemption #3) "We're both scarred, Janine. Both flawed specimens, spit upon, rejected by the world -- and with good reason. Face the truth, Janine -- he's better off without you." This is a super telling quote, even if you factor in that Kaine probably did intend to hurt Janine with those specific words -- the point is that he views them as fundamentally the same in their damage, and that Ben, who Kaine views as undamaged in this way, is better off without either them, which is clearly what Kaine actually feels in that scene. (I really love how DeMatteis tackles trauma and abuse in his works, by the way -- this paralleling is something he also uses in The Child Within, a way to inform the reader of the severity of a character's suffering by use of a comparatively more minor character.)

So I think with Kaine, a lot of the damage is already done by the time we first meet him in the Clone Saga because of this extremely early trauma, and for example this is why he latches onto Louise so tightly, because he's so damaged by what the Jackal has done to him that it's left him frighteningly vulnerable to any kind of love or affection, it's what he craves above all, and it's part of what keeps him both trapped in his specific dynamic with Ben and his early adoration to the point of near worship of Peter. And I think for Kaine at this point in time it's easier to blame his pain on the clone degeneration and on himself as a flawed clone and to focus on that instead of thinking about the trauma and abuse the Jackal inflicted upon him. This is something I think Scarlet Spider also makes clear by use of Ana Kravinoff as one of the primary villains, because, like Kaine, Ana is caught in the machinations of this abusive father she'll never be able to please, and it's such an interesting choice to pit Kaine against someone who is trapped in that specific dynamic, because that is very much where Kaine was during the Clone Saga.

(ASM #404)

(Scarlet Spider #22) "I'm going to choose what I am. Not anyone else." I saw a tweet earlier today that said something to the effect of it's okay to let your characters be happy after their redemption arcs, and that they don't have to die for that redemption to be valid, and it made me think about Kaine because, in spite of Spider-Man Redemption literally being called that, I don't think Kaine has a redemption arc, at least not by a strict definition of the term, because I don't think he needs it. Kaine's Scarlet Spider is so much about learning to be a person after coming from such an abusive origin that he both wasn't considered one by his creator and subsequently couldn't consider himself one, either. Kaine didn't need to be redeemed in the readers' eyes, he needs to be redeemed in his own, and that's why it's important that his Scarlet Spider is so much about him learning to grow as a person, less into who he thinks he's expected to be as Spider-Man's clone and more into who he wants to be for himself and the people he cares for, which is why it's such a crime there's not another 50 issues of his Scarlet Spider series. I've said this like a hundred times but I really wish Spider-Man Beyond would incorporate Kaine into its story specifically because of how Ben is currently suffering in the wake of Clone Conspiracy and Ben Reilly Scarlet Spider and I think there's just a lot of interesting places you could go with these two characters where they currently are.

I think this got off topic from your specific question and more into the area of general Kaine meta, but I hope it's interesting anyway! tl;dr I think it's more interesting for me at least to focus on Kaine's specific trauma and how that influences his actions both during the Clone Saga and after he's cured of the clone degeneration, and how those specific scars inform his actions, and I think that's what's really crucial in understanding Kaine as a character.

#kaine parker #marvel comics #traincat talks comics #long post/#*replies

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equizona · 3 years

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Shielding Embrace

Fandom: Obey Me!

Characters: Mammon

Format: Drabble

Warning(s): Mentions of abuse(?) Angst(with a happy ending), crying, swearing, calling Lucifer a stuck up little bitch, OOC.

Summary: MC is tired of hearing Mammon get picked on so often, by his own brothers no less. As the second-born demon has always protected them, they think it's their turn to protect him.

Note: I wrote this a while ago, since I'm tIRED of Mammon getting bullied all the time. He deserves better-

"Diavolo, stop being such a scumbag Mammon-"

It wasn't uncommon that the brothers would call the second-born mean words. Scumbag was their favorite, along with dumb or stupid. You agreed that he didn't always make the best choices, but they were always so cruel about it. It never gave off the vibes that they were only joking either. It was like they meant every word.

You hated it with your whole being. Mammon had been the nicest to you, and he had been the one who had been there with you since the start, ever since Lucifer made him your 'guardian' in a way. He wasn't the best at showing his emotions, but you could tell he cared. Sometimes, it felt like he was the only one who cared.

You wanted to shout, or scream at them, for all the cruel things they would say to him. He deserved better than that. He was their brother, so why were they always so mean to him?

"MC? Are you okay?" You were forced out of your mind by Satan's annoyingly Loud question that brought the attention of everyone at the table to the two of you.

You remember when he tried to kill you. You remember when all of them tried to kill you. You remembered when Belphie actually killed you.

All those times never quite left your mind, and you could still feel the fear you felt in each of those situations. Mammon was the only one of them you felt completely comfortable with anymore, as he was the only one who never seemed to lose control and attempt to harm you.

You decided you wanted to stand up for him like he stood up for you all the time.

"Actually, no, I'm not. What's wrong with you guys?"

Satan's eye twitched, and it was oddly satisfying. You could see all of the brothers about to speak up about what you'd said, though you didn't give them that chance.

"I don't understand why all of you keep calling Mammon a scumbag. Is it because he's greedy? 'Cause if that is the case, then I want to remind you that greed is his sin. He's the avatar of greed. And I mean, why get mad about him for that? As far as I remember, all of you don't ever try to deny your sins."

You didn't feel satisfied just yet, so you decided to continue. You wanted to make them feel just as horrible as you assumed Mammon felt each time they threw those words at him.

"I mean, Lucifer is a stuck-up little bitch with too much pride and he can't ever seem to apologize or see that it's his fault no matter how obvious it is. Leviathan is constantly envious of everything to the point it can be fucking unbearable. Satan has extreme anger issues, and gets angry at the smallest things and Asmo is constantly flirting with people and usually not stopping until he's in their pants. And please, don't even get me started on Beel. Then of course, Belphie just seems to never bother lifting a finger to help anyone. But I never see anyone complaining about all of that, do I? It's not like any of you do anything to deny the sin you are assigned to, so why do you expect Mammon to do it, hmm?"

You raised your eyebrow in a judgemental way, just to add that extra spite. You could clearly see Mammon's shocked expression.

You preferred watching the reactions of the others more though. Beel looked guilty to some degree, Asmo looked offended, Levi and Belphie looked annoyed at the whole thing while Satan and Lucifer looked downright pissed.

You could see that Mammon was about to say something, probably about how he was okay and you should calm down, and Satan looked ready to snap and attack you, again. Though neither of them had the chance to react before Lucifer stood up while slamming his hands down on the table, glaring at you.

"Excuse me? Run that by me again, won't you?"

You'd normally apologize and leave the room to do something else, but you were tired with their bullshit and this just seemed like yet another way you could call them out on it.

So, you gathered up all of your courage and looked Lucifer straight in the eye, glaring at him as well, despite the fact you knew it would have little to no use.

"Or what? Are you going to try and kill me again? Because let me remind you that all of you have attacked me before, except Mammon. Oh, and of course, one of you actually managed to kill me. Remember that, Belphie?" You shot him a mean look, and at least he seemed to have some guilt over the situation.

"And you know, Lucifer probably would have killed me before as well, hadn't it been for Lord Diavolo. Oh, but you never quite did apologize for that, did you? You never apologized to Luke for attacking him either, did you? And it's because you have so much pride. Because you're so high and mighty and you can never do anything wrong, can you? Ah, but nobody ever tells you that, do they? Because they know it's the sin you represent and they know it's a part of who you are."

Lucifer blinked at you, shocked, and nobody else seemed like they were going to say anything either.

"Actually, in my opinion, I think Mammon is the least 'scummy' and 'lowlife' person in this room. And he somehow managed to be the one with the most control. Seriously, at this point I'm certain that you all only ever say those things to him because you all know you're the real lowlives and you're just too pathetic to admit it."

You didn't want to stay there anymore, and since they all seemed to shocked to say or do anything, you stood up and quickly made your way to your room, though it wasn't long until someone was knocking on your door.

"Uh, human..?"

Mammon's voice.

You almost wanted to cry. He didn't usually knock, he preferred to just barge in with his stupidly cheerful attitude that never failed to make you smile.

"You can come in."

You voiced it quietly, a small part of you hoping that he wouldn't hear you and just leave instead, but seconds after he opened the door and let himself in.

He didn't say anything as he sat down next to you on your bed though, most likely trying to figure out what he should say in a situation like this.

What you weren't expecting was to hear the sounds of sobbing.

Worriedly, you say up and moved next to him, concern filling your entire body as you gently put your arms around his shoulders and made him lean on your chest.

"Hey, hey, shh, are you okay? Do you want to talk about it?"

You tried to make your voice as gentle as possible. You weren't entirely sure what to do, but you never liked it when he was sad. His negative expressions and tears always layed heavy on your heart, so much that it was almost unbearable.

"Did- did you mea-mean it-?"

He stuttered out after a few minutes of you running your hand through his hair in an attempt to calm him down. You frowned, not entirely sure which part he was asking about.

"Which part are we talking about specifically?" You questioned him, though you made sure that your voice was soft.

"All of it." As soon as he answered your question, he got out of your embrace only to put his hands around your neck for a hug. You grinned, hugging him back.

"Of course I was. You're the one that's been there for me since I came here, and while I can agree that you don't always make the best decisions, they don't always make the best decisions either. They are your brothers, and they should never be saying things like that to you. Actually, from now on, each and every time they say something mean towards you, I want you to come to me so I can smother you in my love and affection."

Oh shit, fuck, did you just-

"Wait- like- uh- no- uhm- like in a-a, uh-"

He moved away from you, and you wondered if he regretted that considering how red his face was. You'd probably burn your hand if you touched his face at this point.

"I'm sorry, but you're going to have to say that again."

You gave him a patient smile, wanting him to feel comfortable. You were almost certain that he liked you back, since he wasn't exactly very good at hiding it, but you hadn't wanted to act on it before now incase you made him uncomfortable or that you were wrong.

Though his reaction only made you more certain.

He took a few moments to collect himself, before trying to speak up again, though he didn't seem able to look you in the eyes.

"Do, uh- do you mean like- like in a, uh, a rom-uhm.."

"Romantic?"

You inquired softly, and to your delight he nodded, still not looking at you.

This wasn't exactly a side of him you saw often, since he would usually try and deny anything, but you were happy about it.

You moved to hold his face in your hands, though he still refused to look you in the eyes.

"If you want to. I'm not sure how you feel, since nobody but you can be certain about that, but I know I like you, and wouldn't mind smothering your face in kisses each day."

Your tone was playful, be genuine. You felt his face heat up even more, if that was even possible. He changed the direction of his gaze to look directly into your eyes, and you felt like you would get lost in the ocean his eyes had.

He leaned forward for another hug, and you grinned, barely taking a single second to process it before you were moving your hands to hug him back.

"I like ya too."

You grinned even brighter, squeezing him tighter. You didn't ever want to leave his embrace, and while you knew that you would have to face both his brothers and the world later, it would be a lot easier with him by your side.

#obey me #obey me x reader #obey me mammon #obey me mammon x reader #mammon #mammon x reader #obey me devildom #obey me one shot #mamoney #om #devildom #mammon avatar of greed #obey me reader insert #reader insert #otome #rpg

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crystallinee-waters · 3 years

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Do you think Harley will be mentioned in JL? What do you think about J's look? I actually like his look. i'm affraid that because of Margot who acts like Harley's friend not just actor they will be talking like their relationship was and is bad and abusive. I'm soo sad that because of her SS Jarley Will never come back. Why the hell DC cares about what Margot thinks about Jarley?. She doesn't understand her. And she openly says that she took part in Jarley's break up. I still wish them to come back you know. I'm literally obssesed with them. I hate Margot and i don't get why people love her so much and at the same time ship Jarley. Margot Robbie has no respect for her fans.I heard that she could play with Jared in JL but Margot didn't agree cause you know he is manipulative and abusive and IvY iS tHe TrUe LoVe. She literally said in interview that she is good person. Thoughts? Well I hope you will answer and are not tired of this topic but i'm curious if i'm the only one in pain and you are the only one Jarley blog which is still active.

I’ve been watching DC with very little interest for the last year because I’ve really lost emotional investment due to all the shit that went down - this is promising and I wish I could be hyped about it, but I’m cautious about my expectations.

J’s new look though? Interesting. The long hair, no tattoos, the butcher vibes... I’m somewhat intrigued. I’ve always headcanoned Leto!J as a lowkey fleek Jack the Ripper type, who definitely has that horror movie quality if you were to unleash him and give him a more physically demanding weapon instead of a machine gun, but that wasn’t realized at all in the SS studio cut which was sadly more about bling bling, no matter how accurate that look would be to the actual drug lord underworld.

I’m getting both Nolanverse and Azzarello vibes from this. This look is such a 180, devoid of self-reference yet it’s a Statement look. Aside from that, it depends on the directing, performance, and editing, so we’ll see what comes out of it.

Since this is apparently J before his druglord era (I can’t see how it would be set after), I suppose there is no reference to Harley because Harleen had probably not started working at Arkham/been assigned to him yet. And I frankly wouldn’t want Margot to step her foot in this bc she would probably try to push another made-up narrative that undoes everything Harleen ever stood for.

About Margot... I’ve lost interest in other characters too because they casted a Big Name actor/actress for their looks or whatever, and then said actor completely overrides the character traits with their own and refuses to embody what the character stands for and turns it into some version of themselves instead. It ruined Harley for me.

Like, in Margot’s case, if you just can’t accept the core traits that your character represents, maybe don’t choose to play that character over and over. Yeah, she doesn’t understand Harley's motivations and she should not have been cast as her, imo. So, I don’t care for her at all at this point.

I don’t wanna discuss Harls & Ivy again or anything related to BOP because the topic makes me so, so tired.

I have more or less left the fandom for the time being, but it might change depending on future content and what we get in JL. If it helps, there are still other active multifandom blogs on here that still post JxHQ content, more than me these days!

I do know how you’re feeling, though. Are you in the Jarley discord? It's a great place if you want to share your feels.

#Anonymous #the joker

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todokori-kun · 7 years

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WELCOME BACK!

<3 I really missed you, and it’s so great to hear you had fun! (and omg yes so ready to see all those beautiful pics)

Yaaayyyy join me in MCU feels hell. And oooh, you have a ship for the fandom now! Like, Stoki’s still my favorite Steve pairing but Stony’s really cool too…you know I ship almost everything XD (also am I the only person who sorta hated almost everyone by the end of CW? Like, of course they’re still my favs and there are still some cinnamon rolls, but, come on. Why couldn’t you all just get along ;-;)

Speaking of Illumi, do you know that Hisoka/Illumi is an incredibly popular ship in the HxH fandom? Probably because both of them are so horrible that they have like 0 friends other than each other. Nobody else wants to hang out with these losers. (Chrollo tolerates Hisoka and the adults in Illumi’s family seem to spend enough time with him to give him orders, but that’s about it.) It’s a trash ship with two trashy people and tbh I love it XD

So continuing with the eye jokes, imagine. Hisoillu version of Helpless. Hisoillu version of Satisfied.

“Look into his eyes and the sky’s the limit”

“Intelligent eyes in a hunger-pang frame”

(I know you did thise one before but still) “But when I fantasize at night, it’s Illumi’s eyes”

just, I’m imagining animatics for this with the ‘camera’ zooming in on Illumi’s dead fish eyes every time the lyrics mention them. It’s hilarious and also mildly terrifying

(though I guess if we’re actually making a Hamilton AU Hisoka’s way more likely to do something like Say No To This…)

idk if I’d want to be a parent either really LOL. Kids are adorable but I don’t think I’ll ever be responsible enough to raise one…

If Ishida makes a plot twist or something about it being someone else pretending to be Hide I'm actually gonna get mad. Dude. Not only would that bring the Hide feels right back it’d just make absolutely no sense omg

(also you read the new chapter, right? So, let’s talk about Juuzou and that huge death flag)

I’ve heard of Soul Eater and considered reading it but it’s not really the kind of thing I’m into…artwork’s cute, though, and Death the Kid seems like an interesting guy so maybe someday XD

AGH I’M ACTUALLY SORTA JEALOUS BECAUSE WOW I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA HOW TO WATCH THAT LEGALLY HERE IN KOREA. (unless I ask my dad for help but he doesn’t like manga/anime at all, so…) But yes, I’m really happy Lizzy finally got her moment this time! Now anime-only fans can’t complain about her being a ‘shallow’ character so hopefully there’ll be less fighting over Lizzy in the Kuro fandom :D

FINALLY. Fellow Death Note fan <3333 Who’s your fav? Do you have any ships? Are you done with the anime??? :D (also do you know…you picked a really interesting time to join the DN fandom. The American live-action movie just came out and it sucks so freaking bad, like I haven’t even watched it yet and just from the reviews/clips, here’s what I got:

-They turned Misa into this Harley Quinn-type character. Only without any depth.

-Light/Misa is an actual canon ship, like, it’s not abusive or one-sided like it is in the anime/manga, it’s just…a thing. Light loves Misa. Misa loves Light. It’s like every cringey high school romance movie ever, only with more murder

-They freaking bent the Death Note rules just so Light could get away with all sorts of ridiculous stuff

-L cries, L rants, L is overly emotional

-Light tells L where he hid a page from his Death Note. Light doesn’t deny being Kira. Light shows Misa his Death Note when they like barely know each other and she’s still a complete stranger to him. Light acts like an idiot.

-Oh sure, he’s Kira, God of the New World, but he still cares about going to prom with his girlfriend and making stupid faces as they pose for pictures

-So much unnecessary gore. Heart attacks are Kira’s thing, Light isn’t that emotional about his kills, he doesn’t care as long as the 'villains’ are dead, so why???

-Apparently Rem does not exist. Sayu doesn't exist either. Light’s mom is dead (probably so he can angst over her)

-Light Turner. Light TURNER. Out of all the surnames they could have chosen…

-And now, for the most unforgivable sin:

How dare they not include the Potato Chip scene)

And then random things: JJ and Light have the same voice actor. Yurio and Mello (imo…have you met Mello yet?) could be long-lost twins.

Also:

I’ve fallen into Steven Universe hell and now I’m imagining so. Many. Gem AUs. Have you ever heard of SU?

(look:

1- don’t stress about the messages, and come on, I’d never get mad at you over something like this! You’re way too awesome.

2- I don’t really know what to say 'cause I’m bad at comforting people, but ugh, it sucks to hear that school’s tiring you out! Queen Luna’s gonna get through this, though. I mean, you’re great at so many things and you’re freaking smart and…this is awkward but maybe you understand Evans Language by now? XD Guess I’m just trying to say that I’m sure you’ll do great, and if you ever need someone to talk to I’m (almost) always free *hugs*

3- Um. So, other than tumblr, I think the only way I can talk with you right now is if we email each other? The email address I used this time is my real one (or rather, my dad’s, since I don’t have one of my own yet…) so maybe we can talk about this more through email and find a better way to contact each other? If that’s ok with you can you send me a message there?)

P.S:

I’ve started college and have no idea what I’m doing

*slams head against keyboard* guess who managed to get sick. It’s only been a week since school started. Whatever, I’m still going to school, but I woke up breathing like a fish on land, bc asthma. Yay.

I’m definitely gonna upload the pics today!!

Okay, but one thing I’m wondering about, is How? Not in a malicious way or anything, I’m genuinely curious to why you ship Stoki (and where it began). Was it that redemption fic you told me about or did you ship it before?

Tbh, I didn’t hate the characters in CW, I hated the situation. Because there’s so so much pointless conflict that could easily be solved if everyone sat down and talked like normal people. But nooo we have to go around attacking each other. ((ALSO CAP’S LETTER TO TONY, I AM DEAD))

I’ve already learned (and experienced) that shipping is a very weird and unusual thing, so I’ll be honest and say I’m not even surprised that ship exists. At least it has some basis XD

I’m actually tempted to go through the lyrics of the whole musical and find every single eye line there is, only to replace it w Illumi’s eyes.

Not only zooming in on the eyes, the word itself is louder than the rest XD man if only I could draw…

Tbh I’d say I’m responsible enough (HA, that’s more or less a lie), but I’m honestly way too irritated with the little ones to be able to have one of my own. My cousin recently celebrated her 3rd bday and I was stuck looking after her during the party, bc all the adults were talking among themselves and I swear to god, I haven’t moved that much since I had to run 2km for PE. Where do they get their energy. Not to mention the adults thought it would be a good idea to leave me w her, because I’d already drunk 3 glasses of wine (i was bored and not allowed to do anything other than stare at emptiness or look after a 3yo). Turns out my tolerance isn’t that bad after all.

Lol let’s be honest, Ishida would totally do that. He knows the fandom would riot and that’s the whole point.

All the death flags. Tbh I don’t know how I feel about it. It’s obvious that either Touka or Juuzou are probably gonna die and I wan’t neither (If I have to choose tho, I’d rather Juuzou survives.) Also Naki. HNNNNNNGH

I think you’d actually like the manga? It takes a pretty dark turn compared to the anime and deals with lots of mental issues (the whole theme of the later volumes is Madness). Also, lots of death XD Well, the artwork changes drastically, so which one are you talking about XD

The girl in the coat (left first pic, middle 2nd) is the same person for reference. Death the Kid was one of my first anime crushes. The guy has OCD and is a total badass.

MUHAHAHAHA I think someone uploaded the Lizzy fight to youtube so you can probably find it there, but I am in love. The animation is beautiful, so that’s also a huge plus. All in all, it was handled really well.

Death Note

So last I’ve watched is ep 25, aka the one WHERE L DIES. And i am not okay. I am nowhere near okay. Nope. Not at all.

Oh i’ve heard all about the adaptation. Tbh I find the whitewashing hilarious. Setting the movie in America removes so much of the series’s logic, so why? L being the way he is is probably my favourite mistake. They took the best character and ruined him completely. POTATO CHIP SCENE NOOOO But my question is: did everything go just according to the keikaku?

Have fun w SU! I’ve watched it for a while, but gave up at some point. I might pick it up again if I have the time ^^ Word of advice, watch out for the fandom, they’re among the most toxic ones I’ve ever encountered. One time, they almost drove an artist to suicide because she didn’t draw Rose ‘thick enough’. So yeah.

What did I do to deserve you as my friend TT^TT Thank you so so much, those words mean more than you can imagine.

Um. Looks like we’ll be staying here, because I never, ever check my mail, despite getting school assignments there, so yeah. If we used mail, you’d probably get a response every leap year.

How does the education system work in Korea? Like, at what age do you start going to which school?

Also, I’ve told you about Mystic Messenger? I think you’d like the newest update, because damn, it’s creeping me out. Also, it’s in Korean, so + ((My thoughts during the prologue of the new route: Nani the fuck))

#evans #submission

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