I want to explain my stance on each of the remaining couples as unbiased as I possibly can be. This will detail why I prefer certain ships over others.
ELUCIEN 🦊🦌🌻
— I have adored Elain and Lucien as a couple from the moment they became mates in ACOMAF. Their bond snapped immediately upon their eyes meeting, which is both the first we have seen of an immediate bond snapping, and also the first instance we have seen of both people in the pair knowing about the mating bond prior to the relationship. Their personalities are so similar, though both are currently muted due to their complex trauma responses. Their interests align and interlace with one another. Aesthetic wise, their relationship just merged so well in my head when I picture them. My own personal thoughts aside, the plot structure supports them as the endgame couple based on how carefully they’ve been placed in the Koschei arc. Elucien is regency coded and I can only imagine how beautiful their tension is going to be.
GWYNRIEL 🤍🖤💙
— I could tell pretty early on that they will become one of the endgame couples. SJM emphasized their specific interactions, exemplifying on banter and other characters picking up on both Azriel and Gwyn focusing their attention onto one another. The dynamic between them is based in equality and mutual respect, as they have both seen one another in moments that they hide from others and they still choose to face each other. They have such similar responses to trauma and their own inner reflections are very similar. I believe that Gwyn would challenge Azriel, which is what he needs in a relationship. The mate language used in the ACOSF bonus chapter from Azriel’s POV also points out that they are contenders for becoming endgame. Plot wise, ACOSF had so much symbolism and foreshadowing for Gwyn being tied to Dusk, and HOFAS further tied Azriel to the Dusk Court arc. I would love to see them teamed up on spy missions!
ELRIEL 🌷🦇🥀
— I completely understand why people ship Elain and Azriel—that is, until ACOSF. The aesthetic that Elriel offers is romantic and charged and I could even find myself enjoying this ship, if not for the plot arcs and the overwhelming potential of both Elucien and Gwynriel. Elriel has always read very flat to me, as if two people are being forced together in a scene without any build-up, or chemistry. I never felt the urge to read about them and I was very confused when I read the ACOSF Azriel bonus chapter and saw any sort of romantic undertones portrayed between them. A major turn off from this ship was the bonus chapter, as well. I was displeased with Azriel’s thoughts towards Elain and his objectification of her in his conversation with Rhysand. Had Azriel made it clear that he would have fought for Elain, or that he loved her, I could see myself leaning more towards this couple. The remaining plot also do not support Elriel as an endgame couple.
VASSIEN 🔥🐦🔥❤️🔥
— I do not understand this ship much at all, aside from the one line that Feyre uses in ACOWAR to title them the, “Lord of Fire and Bird of Flame.” I have always seen this couple being used as a way to cut a divide between Elain and Lucien, but there does not seem to be any romantic undertones between them. Vassa and Lucien read as platonic. As Elain and Lucien offer us the information that we need for the Koschei arc—and Elain can offer us the same information that Vassa can from her visions—we know that Vassa will not hold a book as a FMC. Vassa and Jurian have been set up to be endgame from the language used in the books—the same language that SJM uses across all books to describe her endgame couples.
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So this intro will be a bit long, but it does have a point and know I'm going to be talking about Todd Chavez from BoJack Horseman and Jonathan Sims from The Magnus Archives.
Asexuality is fundamentally different from being gay or lesbian. Just like being transgender is fundamentally different from being gay, lesbian, or asexual. While being gay means you are a male-aligned person and are only attracted to male-aligned people, asexual means you are lacking a sexual attraction in some way.
Asexuality isn't really a sexuality. It's more like the title to a book. It's okay to have just a title, but you can't publish a book without a story. Real life humans can go their whole lives with a book title in their head, but are never able to develop the story, and that's okay. While real people are perfectly valid having only a title, fictional characters can't exist without a story.
While I say asexuality isn't a sexuality, there are many subcategories of asexual. Not knowing what subcategory to use is internally valid for both real people and fictional characters, but adult humans should know how to describe how they are aroused. If a fictional character gets into a romantic relationship, and it is a mature piece of media, like BoJack Horseman and the Magnus Archives, then the asexual character needs to talk about their sexuality.
Jonathan Sims is awful asexual representation. The only way you know Jon is asexual is from a QnA that you don't have to listen to. The only evidence Jon is asexual is from Georgie saying, "He just didn't." when referencing Jon and hers sexual part of their romantic relationship. . . from back in college. Jon then gets into a homosexual relationship with another character, which now confirms he's bisexual, but him and his boyfriend, Martin, never talk about their attraction for one another.
Jon himself is classified as asexual by his creator, but his boyfriend isn't. Jon didn't have sex with Georgie, we do not know why. Jon never gets a chance to explain or defend himself. We do not know if Jon and Martin had sex. We do know they lived in the same house and sleep in the same bed. Jon doesn't have a sexuality. Jon isn't even really asexual- he's just a blank canvas.
To be asexual means you are lacking in some way with your sexual attraction. That could mean absolutely anything, and no two humans are alike, so you cannot define asexual in a non-vague way. Ask any person who is a fully pubest adult to define their asexuality. What will they say? One person may say they cannot become aroused until they feel a personal connection (Demisexual). One person may say they were allosexual but because of a sexual trauma are now asexual (Caedsexual). One person might say sex and masturbation is disturbing or inherently disgusting (Apothisexual). One person might say they only feel arousal during solo masturbation (Autosexual).
There are many different kinds of asexual. Only feeling arousal when a person does not reciprocate those feelings, switching between asexual and allosexual, only feeling arousal when you don't know the person, or maybe you really want to feel arousal for another person, but you just can't.
While Jonathan Sims is an awful depiction of asexuality, Todd Chavez from BoJack Horseman is perfect. Todd does not recognize he even has a sexuality when the story first starts. He himself is very confused as to why he seems to be lacking when it comes to a sexuality. When the term asexual is brought up to him, he is welcoming. When he enters a relationship with a woman who is not asexual, he openly admits that sex is not something he is comfortable with at all. Todd doesn't know what his sexuality is when he starts, but by the end he is confident.
Todd is a beautiful story about coming out, about accepting yourself, and about standing firm in your sexuality. Jonathan Sims is a bit like a piss in the dark, sure you get some in the toilet, but most of it's on your feet.
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so you want me to stop fighting. I see how it is, taking away my joy in life" LMAOOOOOOO accurate reaction from etoiles after almost passing out from blood loss that he didn't even know he had
but OW THE PAINNNN OMGGGGG his literal instinct to deny help with his injury as he's had to push through almost every fight with the code alone so patching himself up with potions is something he's used too, but in those fights he had adrenaline to keep him going with tough injuries. every wound and injury was almost instantly undone with splash pots but here an injury was left to fester and drain him of energy- only difference though is that here he's with allies and friends who can help patch him up before things get too bad aaaaaaaaaa I LOVE WARRIER WITH 💞💕💞💗💞💖💞💞💕💞💖💞💗💞💞💗FRIENDS💕💗💖💞💕💗💖💞💕💞💕💞💕💗
also crying codebreakers is so special to me especially etoiles body allowing him to zone out for a bit while having his arms wounds tended too as the threats gone and he's around someone who he doesn't have to protect as much as others on the island as phil's more versed in combat then the average person living there and can compose himself before being fully grounded again once he's had time to register the injury and phils finished healing him AAAAAAAA CODEBREAKERS PUTS THEM IN A GLASS JAR WITH HOLES IN THE TOP FOR BREATHING AND SHAKES IT INTENSELY AND WATCHES THEM GLOW LIKE FIREFLIES AND PUTS THEM ON THE SHELF TO LIGHT MY ROOM UP - 💿
RAAAAH I‘M SO NORMAL ABOUT THIS AKAKAJ
I don‘t know why but I adore Characters that just.. have this deep trust in each other that just can‘t be described, different than they have to everyone else - like the way that Etoiles insists on pushing through and brushing off Phils concerns surrounding the wound, but he still let‘s him treat the injury. He still let‘s Phil sit him down somewhere and take care of it, while Etoiles doesn‘t attempt to fully fight back how he starts to zone out because Phil’s here.
He has the trust in Phil that he let’s himself be vulnerable in a way, because he trusts Phils skill and abilities, his confidence and determination when acting.
Etoiles doesn‘t attempt to brush it off playfully with lighthearted comments anymore and the silly banter between them only starts up again when Phil finishes up the injury, waiting for Etoiles to be properly grounded to hold an actual conversation with him.
They are both warriors and fighters, yet they are just as gentle with each other when the time calls for it.
I AM SO RAAAAH, THEM!!! THE SILLY LITTLE GUYS, I HOLD AND RATTLE GENTLY YET INTENSELY
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Controversial opinion among Dune book fans maybe, but I loved the changes they made to Chani's character. Making her a fedaykin who is already an experienced fighter before Paul arrives was a brilliant choice. Dune Part Two is a war movie, and this puts her at the center of the action, side by side with Paul, and gives her a much more active role than she has in the book.
We got a hint of where things were going in the beginning of Dune Part One. The first thing we ever know about movie Chani is that she's a fighter. She serves as a voice for the Fremen, telling us the story of their struggle from her point of view. I wrote here about the difference this change makes compared to other adaptations of Dune, what a perspective shift it is to have the world of Arrakis introduced not by an outsider, describing it as a dangerous but valuable colonial prize, but by one of its native inhabitants, who tells us before all else that it's beautiful, her home that she's fighting to liberate. I am so, so glad that the second movie followed up on this characterization.
I never found Chani and Paul's love story in the book particularly convincing, because why would this woman, who already has a prominent and respected place in Fremen society, even give the time of day to her deposed would-be colonizer, let alone fall in love and have children with him? Without a compelling reason for Chani to love Paul, she ends up feeling like a prize to be won, and "indigenous culture personified as a woman to be wooed (or conquered) by the colonizing man" is a trope we've seen and don't need to repeat.
But as soon as you tell me it's a barricade romance I get it. Cool cool cool, I know exactly what this relationship is now and it makes sense. Movie Chani doesn't respect or even particularly like Paul when she first meets him, and she doesn't think he's the fulfillment of any prophecy. She comes to respect him, and eventually love him, through his actions. He's brave--sometimes recklessly so. He fights well. He's willing to stick his neck out on the front lines with the other Fremen fighters. He can (after a little help) hack surviving in the harsh desert environment. He's not too proud to learn from others. He seems to genuinely want to be her equal in a common political struggle. All these qualities make sense as things she values.
Fighting side by side as equals is just about the only way I can see movie Chani falling for Paul. And it fits perfectly with the film's pattern of reversals that Paul's capacity for violence would initially be one of the things Chani likes about him, only for her to be repelled later when she sees what he becomes.
And as for Paul, well, he's had people deferring to him his entire life. Someone who doesn't take any shit from him is probably refreshing. He seems to like people (Duncan, Gurney) who challenge him and engage in a little friendly teasing--and aren't afraid to go a few rounds in the sparring ring.
It's easy to speedrun a romance when you're spending all your time together in mortal danger fighting for a shared political cause. Especially if you then start winning in a war your people have been fighting for decades. Are you kidding me? That is the perfect environment for intense battle camaraderie to turn into romantic love, and lust.
It makes sense that this version of Chani never believes Paul is any kind of messiah. Of course a character like movie Chani wouldn't believe in or trust some outside savior to liberate them. She's been working to liberate her own people for years. The more Paul invokes the messianic myth, the more he starts sounding once again like someone who plans to rule over them, and the more uncomfortable Chani becomes. In this way she becomes a foil to Jessica, the two of them representing the choices Paul is pulled between. It's a great way of externalizing the political and philosophical debates that often happen within characters' heads in the book.
And of course this version of Chani would leave Paul at the end of the film. It's not just the personal, emotional betrayal--although that stings. What common cause does she have with someone who just declared himself emperor and is sending her own people off in a war of conquest against others? Given the important role she plays in Dune Messiah, I am super curious to see how they get her back into the story, but girl was so valid for being willing to just gtfo. Given that she has the last shot of the whole movie, I'm sure she'll be back somehow, and I can't wait to see what they do with her character in any future installments.
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