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aronarchy · 1 year

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Why we don’t like it when children hit us back

To all the children who have ever been told to “respect” someone that hated them.

March 21, 2023

Even those of us that are disturbed by the thought of how widespread corporal punishment still is in all ranks of society are uncomfortable at the idea of a child defending themself using violence against their oppressors and abusers. A child who hits back proves that the adults “were right all along,” that their violence was justified. Even as they would cheer an adult victim for defending themself fiercely.

Even those “child rights advocates” imagine the right child victim as one who takes it without ever stopping to love “its” owners. Tear-stained and afraid, the child is too innocent to be hit in a guilt-free manner. No one likes to imagine the Brat as Victim—the child who does, according to adultist logic, deserve being hit, because they follow their desires, because they walk the world with their head high, because they talk back, because they are loud, because they are unapologetically here, and resistant to being cast in the role of guest of a world that is just not made for them.

If we are against corporal punishment, the brat is our gotcha, the proof that it is actually not that much of an injustice. The brat unsettles us, so much that the “bad seed” is a stock character in horror, a genre that is much permeated by the adult gaze (defined as “the way children are viewed, represented and portrayed by adults; and finally society’s conception of children and the way this is perpetuated within institutions, and inherent in all interactions with children”), where the adult fear for the subversion of the structures that keep children under control is very much represented.

It might be very well true that the Brat has something unnatural and sinister about them in this world, as they are at constant war with everything that has ever been created, since everything that has been created has been built with the purpose of subjugating them. This is why it feels unnatural to watch a child hitting back instead of cowering. We feel like it’s not right. We feel like history is staring back at us, and all the horror we felt at any rebel and wayward child who has ever lived, we are feeling right now for that reject of the construct of “childhood innocence.” The child who hits back is at such clash with our construction of childhood because we defined violence in all of its forms as the province of the adult, especially the adult in authority.

The adult has an explicit sanction by the state to do violence to the child, while the child has both a social and legal prohibition to even think of defending themself with their fists. Legislation such as “parent-child tort immunity” makes this clear. The adult’s designed place is as the one who hits, and has a right and even an encouragement to do so, the one who acts, as the person. The child’s designed place is as the one who gets hit, and has an obligation to accept that, as the one who suffers acts, as the object. When a child forcibly breaks out of their place, they are reversing the supposed “natural order” in a radical way.

This is why, for the youth liberationist, there should be nothing more beautiful to witness that the child who snaps. We have an unique horror for parricide, and a terrible indifference at the 450 children murdered every year by their parents in just the USA, without even mentioning all the indirect suicides caused by parental abuse. As a Psychology Today article about so-called “parricide” puts it:

Unlike adults who kill their parents, teenagers become parricide offenders when conditions in the home are intolerable but their alternatives are limited. Unlike adults, kids cannot simply leave. The law has made it a crime for young people to run away. Juveniles who commit parricide usually do consider running away, but many do not know any place where they can seek refuge. Those who do run are generally picked up and returned home, or go back on their own: Surviving on the streets is hardly a realistic alternative for youths with meager financial resources, limited education, and few skills.

By far, the severely abused child is the most frequently encountered type of offender. According to Paul Mones, a Los Angeles attorney who specializes in defending adolescent parricide offenders, more than 90 percent have been abused by their parents. In-depth portraits of such youths have frequently shown that they killed because they could no longer tolerate conditions at home. These children were psychologically abused by one or both parents and often suffered physical, sexual, and verbal abuse as well—and witnessed it given to others in the household. They did not typically have histories of severe mental illness or of serious and extensive delinquent behavior. They were not criminally sophisticated. For them, the killings represented an act of desperation—the only way out of a family situation they could no longer endure.

- Heide, Why Kids Kill Parents, 1992.

Despite these being the most frequent conditions of “parricide,” it still brings unique disgust to think about it for most people. The sympathy extended to murdering parents is never extended even to the most desperate child, who chose to kill to not be killed. They chose to stop enduring silently, and that was their greatest crime; that is the crime of the child who hits back. Hell, children aren’t even supposed to talk back. They are not supposed to be anything but grateful for the miserable pieces of space that adults carve out in a world hostile to children for them to live following adult rules. It isn’t rare for children to notice the adult monopoly on violence and force when they interact with figures like teachers, and the way they use words like “respect.” In fact, this social dynamic has been noticed quite often:

Sometimes people use “respect” to mean “treating someone like a person” and sometimes they use “respect” to mean “treating someone like an authority” and sometimes people who are used to being treated like an authority say “if you won’t respect me I won’t respect you” and they mean “if you won’t treat me like an authority I won’t treat you like a person” and they think they’re being fair but they aren’t, and it’s not okay.

(https://soycrates.tumblr.com/post/115633137923/stimmyabby-sometimes-people-use-respect-to-mean)

But it has received almost no condemnation in the public eye. No voices have raised to contrast the adult monopoly on violence towards child bodies and child minds. No voices have raised to praise the child who hits back. Because they do deserve praise. Because the child who sets their foot down and says this belongs to me, even when it’s something like their own body that they are claiming, is committing one of the most serious crimes against adult society, who wants them dispossessed.

Sources:

“The Adult Gaze: a tool of control and oppression,” https://livingwithoutschool.com/2021/07/29/the-adult-gaze-a-tool-of-control-and-oppression

“Filicide,” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filicide

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centuriespast · 10 months

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Cupid and Psyche Richard Dadd (1817–1886) Ashmolean Museum, Oxford

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anonymousangstmonster · 4 months

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Prompt #9

In the heat of the battle, Danny mistakes his own mother for a ghostly enemy.

He only realizes his mistake when he ripped out Maddie’s heart. In a fit of despair, Danny releases his wail, winning the battle, though not before losing his mother.

Jack finds his sobbing son with his hand covered in blood, laying next to his dead wife with a hole in her chest and her heart on the ground.

Instead of making Danny’s parents kill him, let’s make Danny kill one of his parents and then deal with the resulting trauma.

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crimesandcuriosities · 6 days

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Jennifer Pan: The Girl Who Hired Hitmen to Kill Her Parents

Just before midnight on 8th November 2010, a panicked 24-year-old woman named Jennifer Pan made a call to emergency services from her family home in Markham, Ontario. While watching TV in her bedroom, Jennifer overheard multiple people break into the house and confront her parents downstairs, followed by multiple gunshots.

Jennifer told the dispatcher that one of the intruders had come upstairs, tied her hands behind her back and then bound her to the bannister. As she was restrained upstairs, she was unable to provide any eyewitness details on what was happening downstairs. Towards the end of Jennifer's 911 call, a series of gut-wrenching screams for help can be heard in the distance. Jennifer's father - Hann Pan - was alive.

Jennifer seemed genuinely frantic with worry and puts on a convincing performance to the dispatcher. You would not initially believe she had masterminded the entire attack.

The full story can be read here.

#jennifer pan #parricide #hitmen #true crime #shooting #murder #long post #medium #netflix

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wrathzy · 1 year

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Joel Guy Jr. & His Book of Premeditation:

On November 24, 2016, Thanksgiving Day, 61-year-old Joel Guy Sr. and his wife, 55-year-old Lisa Guy, were in their Knoxville, Tennessee home having a long-awaited feast with their children. Joel Sr. had three older daughters, Chandise, Michelle, and Angela, from a previous marriage. Joel and Lisa eventually did have a son of their own. 28-year-old Joel Guy Jr., or Joel "Michael," as the family called him, was born on March 13, 1988. He had always been with his parents, even after graduating from the Louisiana School for Math, Science, and the Arts in 2006.

With the family together after spending time apart, Joel Sr. and Lisa gathered up their four children and announced that they were retiring. Joel Sr. worked as an Engineering Designer, while Lisa was a full-time mother before becoming an Accounting Administrator as their children grew into adulthood. Together, they would collect their earnings, sell off the family home, and move into a house Joel Sr.'s mother owned until she passed away a few years prior.

The children were on board with their parent's decision, as they were all adults. While the three daughters still lived in the state, Joel Jr. resided in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. The family continued with their night and even made plans to spend Christmas together. The daughters left home on Friday, November 25, but Joel Jr. chose to stay for a couple more days before returning home to Baton Rouge on November 27, the Sunday after Thanksgiving. Then it was the following day that everything quickly began turning upside down.

On Monday, November 28, Lisa failed to show up for her shift at work. Her boss, Jennifer Whited, contacted the police after being reasonably suspicious, as Lisa never missed work like this. Shortly after, the police arrived at 11434 Goldenview Lane to conduct a welfare check. The police first noticed a "For Sale" sign in the front garden. There were also two parked vehicles in front of the garage, one with its lights on inside, and it was a seemingly empty house despite knocking on the front door and ringing the buzzer a few times.

As all these small anomalous details accumulated during the search, they requested for a detective to participate in the welfare check. Once the detective arrived, they began investigating the home's exterior and discovered the back door's knob was extracted. While glancing through the windows, the police found groceries scattered in the internal entry of the home. They felt a scorching heat through a pet entrance in the back door, and a peculiar odor flowed through it. They also heard the faint sounds of a dog barking from inside.

The overall feeling stemming from the home grew more unsettling as time passed. One of the officers entered one of the homeowner's vehicles and pressed the button of a garage door opener, finally allowing access through the garage and into the residence. Immediately, they couldn't help but feel something was out of place upon entering the home's central area. They first noticed the intense heat, as the temperature was well above 90 degrees, and a solid chemical odor was traveling throughout the house.

Propped on the dining room table were two wallets, a cell phone, money, and a hammer. Cleaning supplies would lay on the floor in the kitchen, and a pot on the stove was boiling at high heat. From there, the officers would continue their search towards the second floor. The officers kept hearing a dog barking from somewhere on the second floor. They advanced upstairs, finding traces of reddish-brown stains along the floor and walls on the way up. Then there was an open door down the hall, where officers discovered a pair of dismembered hands.

After entering the master bedroom, the officers noticed the bed was neatly made, and an even more pungent chemical odor was coming from the en suite. Inside it, there was plastic sheeting laid out on the floor, and a garden hose was attached to the shower. There was a knife in the sink, and two massive tubs were on the floor next to each other. Inside the tubs were the dissolving remains of two individuals. Authorities presumed it was the remains of Joel Guy Sr. and Lisa's bubbling away in the tubs of acid-based solution.

The authorities continued to locate vast amounts of crime scene evidence throughout the residence. Unopened trash bags were discovered in the home's back area, along with containers of bleach, muriatic acid, baking soda, and a sprayer on the kitchen floor. Firearms and ammunition were on the dining room table, along with recently purchased beer and perishable items scattered on the main hall's floor. Cut-up pieces of clothing were also found next to a bloody pair of scissors, and there was blood almost everywhere officers searched.

After taking two days to canvass the entire crime scene, detectives came up with an idea of what had occurred: It was Joel Sr. that was killed first while Lisa was out at Walmart, presumably around the morning of Saturday, November 26, inside the upstairs exercise room. It's believed Joel Guy Sr. suffered over 40 stab wounds to his body; it was difficult for the medical examiner to tell how many injuries Joel Sr. truly sustained due to his dismemberment. Though, at least 34 were lacerations on his back, indicating he was alive during the attack.

Joel Sr. had sharp forced injuries to his lungs, kidneys, liver, and ribs and had several defensive wounds on his hands. His hands were then severed and placed on the exercise room floor, the same pair of hands that detectives would later find after searching the second floor. After returning home from Walmart, Lisa was ambushed with groceries in hand while entering the main hall. She suffered from over 20 sharp forced injuries, though, like Joel Sr., it was difficult for the examiner to determine how many there were due to the state of her remains.

The killer began the dismemberment process after murdering Joel Sr. and Lisa. Joel Sr's arms were removed, both legs cut from the hip, and his right ankle was disconnected from the rest of his leg before being tossed into one of the chemical tubs. Most of his skin was liquefied. Lisa's arms were removed from the shoulders and her legs from the knees. She was decapitated, and all her body parts were found inside the chemical bath except her head. Officers later found Lisa's head inside the pot downstairs, which had been simmering for two days straight.

The authorities commenced a full-on homicide investigation. It wasn't long before they came across CCTV surveillance footage of 28-year-old Joel Guy Jr. with bandaged hands at a local Walmart shopping for the same supplies that were eventually found at the crime scene. Joel Jr. primarily used cash for every transaction and self-checkout he made. He purchased supplies for the murders as early as November 7, including muriatic acid and hydrogen peroxide. A week and a half later, Joel was also seen at a sports store buying a Ka-Bar knife.

On Tuesday, November 29, Joel Guy Jr. was arrested in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. He had cuts all over his hands, perhaps due to Joel Sr. and Lisa fighting while being stabbed. Then while searching Joel Jr's vehicle, officers found a meat grinder and gasoline canister in the trunk. Joel Jr's initial plan was to use the cleaning supplies he had purchased to dispose of all the evidence to cover his tracks. However, after murdering his parents and getting his hands cut up, Joel Jr. left the scene and returned to Baton Rouge to take care of his hands.

Why would a person like Joel Guy Jr. plan on murdering his parents, especially in a horrendous manner? Well, we won't have to look very far for the answer because he wrote his entire plan in ink, a 5-page journal dubbed "The Book of Premeditation," to be precise. Authorities found Joel Jr's "Book of Premeditation" while searching through his backpack that was left inside the home of Goldenview Lane. This journal contained meticulous notations summarizing his strategy to butcher and obliterate the remains of his parents. One of these pages includes the following:

*get carving knives

Get killing knives - quiet - multiple to make small pieces

Get sledgehammer - crush bones

Bring blender and food grinder - grind meat

get bleach - denature proteins

get plastic bin for denaturation process

does not matter where they're killed

just get rid of bloody spots to prevent evidence of time of death (not the mattress or couches)

get rid of bodies inside house - their and

my DNA already there

open up doggie door to provide entryway he needs to be blamed,

flush chunks down toilet (not garbage not intruder

disposal)

get plastic sheeting for disposal process

get hollow point bullets just in case will

be seen buying bullets; just use computer room gun →

check to make sure there are bullets (last resort

He's not alive to claim her half of the insurance

money → all mine ($500,000)

flood the house, covers up forensic evidence

turn heater up as high as it goes → speeds decomposition.

bleach reacts with luminol just like blood → douse area

with bleach

big sprayer

lye

trash compactor?

Body gives times of death → alibi

Don't have to get rid of body if there is no forensic evidence

on the body.

HIS FINGERPRINTS AND DNA

The entire motivation behind Joel Jr.'s actions was out of bitterness and greed. Both Joel Sr. and Lisa, who had taken care of him all his life, were finally going to cut off all resources from him. Joel Jr., of course, wasn't hip to the idea, so he created the "ultimate" plan to annihilate his parents. Lisa also had a $500,000 life insurance policy, and Joel wanted it, meaning he had to kill both her and his father to retrieve the money, and both of their homes, for himself. However, the reason behind why he butchered them in such a brutal manner remains unknown.

According to family testimonies, Joel Guy Jr. was always an outcast. Joel never appeared to keep in close contact with his family. Everyone seemed to follow suit except his mother, who contacted him daily, sent him money, and paid the rent for his apartment in Baton Rouge while he did absolutely nothing. The trial commenced on Sep 28, 2020, and the final decision was made after four days. Joel Guy Jr. requested the death penalty, but instead, the jury found him guilty on two counts of first-degree murder, felony murder while committing theft, and abuse of a corpse. He was ordered two consecutive life sentences on October 2, 2020.

#joel guy jr #true crime research #true crime community #parricide #dismemberment #monstruosity #true crime #morbid curiosities #wrathzy

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stylistic-nightmare · 11 months

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Pestilence - Parricide

#pestilence #parricide #metal #death metal #music

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eyobis-andthe-bunnycats · 2 years

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Parricide, Crayola and Staedtler markers.

[ID Start: a marker doodle of a small, spotted lion cub standing over the limp bodies of a lion and lioness. The cub is on the back of the lion. It is drawn with jaggy lines; the eyes are white with thick, scribbled outlines. The cub's spots are orange with black hatching and there is splotchy red blood on the cub's muzzle and front paws. Blood drips from its mouth. There are multiple sharp, jagged lines all around the cub. The lion has its head and a paw draped over the lioness; its eyes are white and narrow and blood drips from the eyes, mouth, and corner of the nose onto the lioness. The lioness is laying on its side, facing the viewer and a paw is bent towards the viewer. The lioness also has blood dripping from narrow white eyes. The ground under the lions somewhat follow their contours and is reminiscent of finger prints. The background is bright yellow with ten rays of orange and red stripes. Artist signature is on the left, written in the bottom most ray. End ID.]

#doodle #sketch #marker #lions #baby animals #blood #gore #cartoon animal death #b-k draws #b-k describes #eye contact #death #parricide #baby noooo #not exactly vent art but close to it

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quotesfromall · 1 year

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It is entirely in the modern spirit to criticize your parents.

Agatha Christie, Murder in the Mews

#parricide #found family #no contact #antinatalist #agatha christie #christie #murder in the mews #hercule poirot #poirot #1937 #poirot 1937 #mystery #murder mystery #hercule poirot mystery #christie 1937

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parricidepodcast · 27 days

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Episode 35 Pt. 2: The Lightbulb - Henry Wachtel

Henry's defense was that, although his body killed his mother, he had not. He was pretty sure this meant he wouldn't go to prison...and he was right! But that didn't mean freedom for him. It meant treatment. According to his treatment providers, he was more interested in looking good for court than getting any treatment. Could Henry convince the Courts he'd changed? Listen now! If you like our shows and want to become a part of the solution to this age-old problem, please consider making a tax deductible donation to us at / parricidepodcast . Your support means the world to us! For transcripts of this episode, please visit us at https://www.parricide.org and click on the Transcript Link under Parricide Podcast.

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hcdahlem · 1 month

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L'origine des larmes

En retraçant le parcours de Paul Sorensen, coupable d'avoir tiré sur un cadavre, Jean-Paul Dubois explore l'origine de l'identité, les liens tissés dès la naissance et dont on ne peut se défaire. Une confession mélancolique, une sombre comédie.

En deux mots Paul Sorensen part à Montréal récupérer la dépouille de son père. Mais à son retour, il est arrêté pour avoir mutilé le cadavre. Ayant écopé d’une peine de prison avec sursis et soumis à des soins, il va raconter sa vie à son thérapeute. Ma note ★★★★ (j’ai adoré) Ma chronique Vengeance sur un corps déjà froid En retraçant le parcours de Paul Sorensen, coupable d’avoir tiré sur un…

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aronarchy · 9 months

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(cw for severe child assault and abuse)

The article ends with this:

The teenager was apprehended on September 5 (Monday) and produced before the juvenile justice board (JJB), the police said, adding that the boy has completed his Class 12 this year and has no previous history of crime.

Side note, but it really irks me how so much (maybe nearly every single news article) I find on adolescent parricide feels the need to emphasize how the teen was “good at school” or “hardworking” and “had no previous history of crime.” Obvious cultural adultism (+ ableism + saneism + classism) trying to persuade the public that this one was in fact a good and worthy victim/survivor and did not actually fit the stereotypes of the “evil child”/“delinquent” that they would normally be expected to be. (Other common tropes include emphasizing their “intelligence” or quietness/that they were “well-behaved,” or their sanity/lack of mental illness (apart from a palatable depression/PTSD).)

Usually, with reporting in the Western world, they implicitly center the victim’s whiteness as making them more ~angelic~; a lot of academic articles also seem to be (possibly, maybe, but can’t be sure about any of that) slanting toward “more white = more okay” when they say “most parricide offenders are white/middle-class” while not acknowledging racism/extra barriers faced by survivors of color/power imbalances produced by white supremacy. When occurring in a non-white country, they don’t have that card as readily available, but they still bring up other markers of good citizenship and other subtly abuse-culture-enabling views.

I think it really is time for a societal reckoning with “bad survivors,” and school abolition, and for youth with intellectual/learning disabilities, psychotic/dissociative/personality disorders and other hyper-stigmatized mental illnesses, or criminal records, or who are “lazy” or cannot work, who do skip class or do poorly in school or maybe don’t even try, who refuse to and cannot even conform at all/achieve respectability to start taking center stage in the child abuse convo.

#OP #parental abuse #parricide #adultism #youthlib

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