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miraculousdeservesbetter2024 · 8 hours

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At this point, I don’t think TA doesn’t care about “right or wrong” as much as he claims. He’s just refusing to redeem Chloe because he’s still trying to sell that moral, which has long been dead.

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pro-bee-sisters · 2 years

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Did it ever occur to anyone that both Chloé and Zoé don't wanna be lonely?

Let’s look at some examples.

In “Despair Bear,” this is the first time we see Chloe’s insecurities deep down. In the episode, Adrien threatened to end their friendship until she learns to change for the better.

This takes a toll on her for three reasons.

1. We find out that her mother was someone who abandoned her at a young age, something she still is traumatized by.

2. As seen in the flashback, we see that Chloe had a stuffed bear called Mr. Cuddly that was her coping mechanism to help her cope with her mom leaving her.

3. In the same flashback, we see Chloe and Adrien starting up their friendship while Mr. Cuddly is there.

Therefore, Chloe doesn’t want to be lonely because her own mother abandoned her, so she acted clingy to Adrien (and Ladybug) so the empty hole in her heart could be filled.

Meanwhile in “Sole Crusher,” we learn that Zoe had only one friend in NYC as they were the only who wrote on her shoes as a goodbye.

Then as the episode goes by, Zoe is pressured to be like her family: Mean, Narcissistic, and Rude to everyone around her in order to fit in. Unfortunately, it doesn’t work because it’s not something she likes or even wants to be apart of.

The only person who does give her sympathy is Andre, her stepfather.

Furthermore, from what we gathered, even Audrey treated Zoe poorly back when they lived in NYC.

Therefore, I must ask:

Why the hell didn’t neither Chloe or Zoe realize that Audrey was an abusive piece of shit mother and both decided to abandon her, and actually develop a relationship based of their trauma? Hell, both of them could've helped each other healed and moved on from the pain.

In addition, as we saw in "Optigami," Chloe still has some disdain towards Audrey. She laughed when Alec insulted her. Implying she hasn't forgiven Audrey for neglecting her.

So yeah Thomas, WHY COULDN'T YOU HAVE THEM DEVELOP BASED ON THE SAME TRAUMA THEY HAD!

Oh wait, I remember:

"bEcAuSe ChLoE mEaNiE aNd ZoE sWeEt AnGeL!"

Seriously?

SERIOUSLY?!

YOU COULD HAVE EASILY MADE THEM REALIZE THAT BOTH WERE BEING INFLUNCED AND MANIPULATED TO BE LIKE AUDREY JUST FOR THE SAKE OF HER ATTENTION!

This was implied back in Season 2 of “Style Queen” when Chloe attempted multiple times to get Audrey’s attention.

In conclusion, this would not only be a good relationship between both girls, but also a great character arc for both Chloe and Zoe.

Both could learn to move on and not be like their mother at all.

Both could learn to be their own person.

Both could have mentor one another:

Chloe could've taught Zoe to gain confident, learn to say what's on her mind, and not let anyone step on her for wanting her to change.

Zoe could've taught Chloe that she's not alone and that she doesn't need to be mean and angry 24/7 to get attention, and with some patience, she can learn to do better.

Thanks for coming to my prep talk~

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muggle-born-princess · 1 year

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Meanwhile, Astruc behind his computer desk:

"bUt ShE a ViLlAiN!"

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brickercupmasterx3 · 1 year

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Chloe from Miraculous for the ask meme?

Send me a character and I'll answer these!!

1: sexuality headcanon: bisexual 2: otp: Chloe/Kagami (Felix/Chloe is a close second though) 3: brotp: Chloe/Sabrina & Chloe/Adrien 4: notp: Chloe/Marinette (I cannot begin to tell you how much I DESPISE this ship, at least from my experience. The fandom bothers me and it drives me nuts just how these people praise this ship. I can't and won't ship it. You can tell me that my fave Chloe ships don't have any basis or reasons why you don't think they'll ever work out, because I get it. My Chloe ships are only ever going to work on fanon, but you also have to understand that it's the exact same thing with Chlonette. In canon, they have no chance. So yeah, if you ship this couple, I don't care, I can respect it... but stay away from other Chloe ships if they bother you, instead of bringing other people's ships down! Sorry, but I am 100% anti-Chlonette. Not to mention Bullies x Bullied type ships are NOT my thing.) 5: first headcanon that pops into my head: I headcanon Chloe & Adrien to have a fun sibling-like dynamic since they were children. Because Chloe's parents are mostly absent in her life, Chloe really looked up to Emilie Agreste (back when she was still around), who actually treated her more like a daughter than her own parents did. This is one of the reasons why she looks out for Adrien more often than not, after his mother's disappearance. (I am planning to use this headcanon in my rewrite, so have a tiny spoiler?) 6: favorite line from this character: "Ridiculous, utterly ridiculous." (I mean it's her thing. Though I did also like her: "Really? Well she clearly didn't make a big impression on me." comment towards Lila.) 7: one way in which I relate to this character: Difficulty impressing a parent. Definitely the most relatable thing. 8: thing that gives me second hand embarrassment about this character: Every time I see her character development get undone. 9: cinnamon roll or problematic fave?: Problematic fave!

#anonymous #Send a character meme #Chloe Bourgeois #Pro Chloe Bourgeois #Anti Chlonette #(adding an anti ship tag because I am offering reasons why I hate it.)

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spittyfishy · 10 months

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Bunch of frames from a Chloé animation I just got finished!

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ladyfreya123 · 8 months

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Biker AU. Chapter 3. Part 6.

Chapter 1 | Chapter 2

#Biker AU #Biker Luka AU #lukanette #marinette #lukacouffaine #chloe bourgeois #bikerlukaaucomic #long post #pro lukamari

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yan-san-yan · 1 year

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🫧An older Chloé and Luka, maybe a university au? 🫧

This may or may not be related to a fanfic I’m working on 👀

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pens-and-gems · 2 months

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The Queen Bee and the Vesperia Chapter 2 Posted!

Hello to all of my followers, if you are fan of my Miraculous blog, @pro-bee-sisters, I finally posted the second chapter to my story, The Queen Bee and the Vesperia on my Fanfiction.net account!

Link will be here right here!

I will be posting the chapter on my AO3 @ PrincessGem next Thursday along with The Anniversary, a Steven Universe Ruby x Sapphire fic as well.

Hope you all enjoy! Would love some feedback and sharing helps too!

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miraculouscriticismshub · 6 months

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What if Chloe and Zoe had a good relationship ?

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rainbow-arrow · 1 year

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the fact that chloe was trained in ballet for eight years is such a passing comment but explains so much about her character

#let's go #chloe bourgeois #mlb #ml #miraculous ladybug #this is a Pro Chloe Bourgeois Blog oKAY #they built up more for a redemption arc than they did for the couffaines being twins #or jagged being their dad #and yET whAT DID WE GET #what episode is this mentioned #the singing music video one #uhhhh #mlb frightningale

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mothersalem · 5 months

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Im rewatching Miraculous Ladybug with a friend. Nothing will piss me off more than them revoking Chloes character development. She DESERVED to be Queen Bee. Give it BACK!!

#miraculous ladybug #pro Chloe #chloe bourgeois

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pro-bee-sisters · 2 years

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I want a world where after Ladybug saves an akumatized person, the person at first thanks her, but then Ladybug replies:

"Don't thank me, thank the Bee Sisters: Queen Bee and Vesperia."

And then Queen Bee and Vesperia appear, smile politely, they tell the person it was no big deal, and all three of them "pound it."

Seriously, let Chloe and Zoe have a Woody and Buzz dymanic. ❤💛

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muggle-born-princess · 2 years

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Okay, so Thomas and the show argued that Chloé only liked being a superhero for the attention, right?

And while I do believe that it was true since at first, she wanted to please her mother until Ladybug decided to give her another chance,

I believe that deep down, it was more than Chloé wanting attention.

I believe that it was Chloé wanting a true friend. Someone that could help her see the light out the end of the tunnel.

How do I know this?

Look at her reaction when she sees Pollen in "Malekdiator" and "Heroes Day- Part 1."

Also, if you recall, Chloe took pictures of Pollen on Instagram and called her cute, despite not showing up on pictures.

(Can’t find a photo of this. If anyone can find it, please link me to it and I will update it.)

Bonus! Who remembers at the end of “Queen Wasp” after Chloe is deakumatized, she looks miserable when the bee miraculous is destroyed. She knows Pollen lives in there. She believes that she’s dead now because of her.

Clearly she regrets using her for selfish desires.

Then, we finally get to “Miracle Queen” where if you look closely at Chloe, while she does snap at Pollen, it’s more out of angst and pain than legit anger.

If one knows basic psychology, one who snaps at someone who is feeling hurt, stressed, etc..,usually doesn’t mean it.

And that’s proven at the end when Chloe is expelled and kicked off the team.

She definitely looking at Pollen and trying not to cry.

Proven by these images after this.

Hell, even Pollen and Marinette look remorseful for what has happened.

In conclusion, while I do believe Chloe wanted to be Queen Bee for attention (in some aspects), I also do believe that she only wanted Pollen because she saw her as her true companion. Someone that saw the good in her and only got to know the real her because unlike Adrien and Sabrina who are only there for her when the plot says so, Pollen was her only true friend. With Adrien; it’s social status and clinginess; with Sabrina; it’s obviously abusive.

Yes while I do believe that Chloe to an extend did truly care about them both, it wasn’t a real friendship with either one of them because Chloe was never taught what true friendship was until she meant Pollen.

Without Pollen, Chloe would’ve never experience what it’s like to be a hero with Ladybug.

Without Pollen, Chloe would’ve never learned to be a better person with Ladybug.

Without Pollen, Chloe would’ve never felt like what would it be like to change for the good with Ladybug.

Pollen was Chloe’s key to her redemption.

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diariodeunrincondemi · 6 months

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Since last night I couldn't sleep at all, I started to think about my headcanons and ships. So I'm a big Lukanette fan, like they're my OTP and endgame for me. But also I like other ships that involve both Luka and Marinette by their own.

I don't dislike the love square and indeed I think Adrienette is a beautiful teen love (yes, despite the stalking thing, but tbh when my friends and I were teens, some of them were a bit stalker, so I can't criticize Marinette), but I think Adrienette is more a teen-to-college love-like; so after Marinette and Luka break up and during their middle and high school years and first years of college, I have this headcanon about Luka and Chloe, while Marinette and Adrien are dating.

Yes, I'm pretty sure Luka wouldn't date the mean Chloe, just because she hurt some of the people he loves the most (Juleka and Marinette), but I also think that Luka is the kind of guy who doesn't judge anyone before knowing them and that he could give Chloe a chance (a Chloe that's redeeming herself). And if he witnessed how hard Chloe is trying to redeem herself, I'm pretty sure he would support her and, eventually, they would become closer, fall in love and start dating; not dating for marriage, but for several years. Also I imagine them remaining as friends after their breakup (and Chloe trying to pair off Luka and Marinette after Marinette and Adrien break up too).

So I think Luka could teach Chloe to be more open and honest with herself and Chloe could teach Luka to be a little less selfless.

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theblackseachelle · 10 months

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I'd like to Imagine that this was the ONLY thing they planned out for season 4 as their way of saying "F-you" to us 😂........ 🥲

In all seriousness tho..... I give up at this point. There's no point in fighting Thomas or any them at this point if this was planned from the start. 😪

#miraculous ladybug #miraculous fandom #chloe bourgeois #chloe redemption #eternal damnation #Pro-chloe Redemption #thomas astruc #mlb salt #mlb fandom salt #chloe deserves better #why writers #Instagram

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fox-from-malta · 7 months

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Idk if I already said this... but this song reminds me SO SO SO MUCH of Chloe from Miraculous Ladybug. Like the Chloe that would have gotten her redemption. The lyrics even say 'miraculous' at one point xD

#miraculous ladybug #ml #mlb #chloe bourgeois #mlb chloe #spirited #pro chloe #anti-chloe just don't follow my blog cause you'll just be unhappy #again I do not like S4-5 Chloe - I like her before she was ruined by the show #Youtube

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