#secondary characters I guess?

[linterteatime]

Some silly with the the goobers and also a quick reference sheet I made

#mellow pumpkin #ciara #duvessa #oc #original character #original art #my art #my ocs #oc stuff #character design #artists on tumblr #reference sheet #Some more oc's! Not as important as mellow but still very beloved to me #secondary characters I guess? #They live in the same Halloween themed place/town as mellow #Mellow thinks Ciara is her best friend #Ciara does not #Duvessa looks out for mellow sometimes since she is all by herself and is her daughter's friend #also both use she/her!

[fromtheseventhhell]

"Arya wouldn't have been able to survive in KL" is really one of the dumbest fanon takes where you can tell someone only believes it because they like the idea of Arya and Sansa being "exact opposites and perfect complements" (even though it goes against the books). Actual evidence from the books to back it up? Never anywhere to be found despite how confidently people make this claim.

And not only does it severely mischaracterize Arya and ignore what she's been through, it also ignores her importance as a political hostage. The Lannisters weren't searching for her, and lying about having her, for no reason. They needed her because having only one Stark after executing Ned put them in a poor position to negotiate. So Arya would have been more than capable of handling herself (thoroughly shown in her Harrenhal chapters) and the Lannisters would've done everything in their power to keep her alive but, somehow, she wouldn't have been able to survive? It's truly one of those takes that falls apart if you think about it for more than two seconds but apparently, that's too much effort for some people.

#arya stark #asoiaf #as song of ice and fire #anti sansa stans #cause they're the main culprits #the story comes secondary to putting Arya down to prop Sansa up for some people though #it's just one of the dumbest and easily disprovable takes in this fandom #I don't even get mad when I see it cause I know it's not based on anything in the story and it's just fanon misinterpretations #and then they try to be neutral and say that Sansa wouldn't have been able to survive what Arya did but they NEVER point out Arya's #skills + intelligence or talk about what Sansa lacks in comparison or why she wouldn't have been able to survive #a majority of the time it's just /Sansa wouldn't have been able to pass as a boy/ cause they hate complimenting Arya #I'm supposed to buy Sansa as the smartest character in the books but there's nothing in her chapters that her own stans can use to prove it #they have to rely on dropping the intelligence and skills of other characters to make room for her and we're just supposed to ignore that #/Arya wouldn't have been able to survive/ instead of pointing out Sansa's actual skills okay okay got it #personally I'm going to use quotes from my faves chapters to prove their intelligence but I guess that's only if it's actually there...

[sonknuxadow]

i think i do want amy and rouge to be in the next sonic movie, especially if its gonna be an sa2 adaptation, but i cant help but worry that if they try to introduce shadow AND rouge AND amy in the same movie then at least one of those characters (most likely amy. tbh.) isnt gonna get the amount of screentime and development that they deserve. especially considering in the game timeline amy was introduced much earlier and by sa2 was already an established character while rouge and shadow were the newcomers. and then theres also the human characters who are gonna be making the cast a lot bigger than it was in the game so more people to divide the screentime among. like what if amy is in sonic 3 and she gets like 5 minutes of screentime and her big moment with shadow is given to another character again

#though i guess the sa2 based story being amy's introduction #could also open an opportunity for her to play a bigger role in the plot than she did in the original ... hmm.... #ive seen some people suggest the idea of amy or rouge being introduced in the knuckles series but i dont think i want that either? #the knuckles series should act as something that adds to the experience but isnt necessary to understand the next movie #i know we're all extremely autistic about sonic here but try to think of it from the perspective of a casual viewer #if i were a casual viewer of a movie series and didnt actively keep up with news for it and didnt know about any spinoff stuff #and suddenly a new character who was introduced in secondary material shows up in the next movie #and the writing treats me as if im supposed to know who they are. i would find that confusing and annoying actually #also with the whole. big cast of characters making me worried that certain characters wont get as much screentime as they should thing #i know in sonic 2 their way of getting around this was like. putting the characters into groups and pairs #that they stick with for long portions of the movie instead of there being a bunch of solo scenes for each character #and the most plot relevant characters all kinda join up at the end and do stuff together #which i guess could probably work for sonic 3 . so maybe im worrying over nothing

[clamsjams]

oh okay so when I ask if melissa would be omega roiers alpha drag persona in the discord months ago i get fucking crucified, but now everyone’s doing it and no one bats an eye

#this is real btw i need to find the screenshots #i made a google forms poll for every characters secondary gender bc ppl were divided #so i decided to let democracy decide #i wonder where that went #qsmp omegaverse #qsmp #unreality #i guess #qsmp roier #qsmp melissa #posts from the ocean

[drusilla-carstairs]

I am not even a Kit/Ty fan, but since we all know they are endgame for TWP, I have to say it:

I do not want to see any love triangle shenanigans with these two. They can have other love interests. They can date other people at different points in the series. But not ONCE do I want to see any “waffling over who to choose” nonsense. No “pick me” drama. No avoiding feelings by dating a third party. No Matthew-Cordelia-James or Simon-Clary-Jace mess. They won’t be able to pull it off like Herongraystairs. No one can. CC needs to stop it now

#that being said dru likely will have a love triangle but somehow I feel like she’s a secondary character of sorts #so it won’t be as bad ?? I guess??? #as long as it’s not with Jaime #tsc #the shadowhunter chronicles #the dark artifices #tda #the wicked powers #twp #kit herondale #ty blackthorn #Kit/Ty

[hahniana]

It's actually a little fascinating to me how much Chilchuck has enamored the Tumblr tag with the anime.. unless he was always popular and I just missed it somehow

#dungeon meshi #bc i swear before the anime he was yknow still well liked but peope were all over laios and marcille and falin and uhhhh mithrun i guess #and I'd put kabru and senshi in like a secondary faves category #and then chilchuck and other characters #maybe it was just my circles though

[devilsskettle]

there's a trope i've noticed lately where there is a relationship dynamic between two main characters that has clear homoerotic subtext so they give one of the characters a same-sex relationship with a different character because the story is NOT about a queer relationship but if they didn't make one of them queer, too many people would accuse them of queerbaiting

#i don't mind this writing decision actually because at least it's not aggressively denying a queer reading of the character(s) #but it's interesting. it is interesting #i will be looking into this and making a list #another way writers do this is to make a different (usually secondary) character queer to avoid making the main characters queer #which is more annoying imo but better than nothing i guess #like. make your main characters less fruity or make them actually queer. w/e

[aj-lenoire]

apparently the reason may december is being snubbed during awards season is because a lot of actors REALLY didn’t like what it had to say about actors who take on the roles of real people, and the idea that a bunch of former theatre kids might be sensitive about criticism of the industry they work in is, to me, just so shocking

#hey guess what every industry has problems but the answer is not to ignore and snub people who comment on them #also #it almost seems wilful because for me the main takeaway was uhhh abusing kids is bad?? #a white woman was able to continue abusing a boy/man of colour by infantilising herself to him and the entire world #like the natalie portman as an actress thing seemed more the catalyst of other things in the film than the main point #the whole media circus and the desire of the public to know every detail is kind of secondary to watching this young man #—​who in so many ways still behaves and thinks of himself like a child—come to terms with the fact he’s been lied to and failed #just utterly failed by everyone who supposedly is there to protect him #idk i really liked it and charles melton deserves an oscar for that performance #reggie from riverdale held his own against julianne moore and natalie portman like holy shit #something something charles melton’s character never had his own voice as a child and now as a grown man still doesn’t #he is spoken over by his wife/abuser and by the media who document/frame/characterise his history and now by natalie portman’s film #may december #aj abstractions

[strangefl0wer]

a girl grows up hurt. she is not angry. she is sad and forgettable. she is the kind one, the one who forgives. her brothers are angry. it is not her story.

a girl learns to be strong. it will not be spoken of. she is pretty. they tell her she is. (find me when you turn eighteen). she will not be angry. the righteous grief of her brother will be lost on her. it is not her story.

a woman exists to be ogled. look at her, as she shows everything. that is her character, can't you see? it's a personality. (it is not). if nothing else, appreciate your eye candy. she dies and even those supposedly her friends do not linger. it is not her story.

a girl is forgettable. she is shy, but she loves the boy. that makes her worth something, right? her end would not matter, because her beginning did not. it is not her story.

a woman is hurt. she is damaged and coping in all the wrong ways. it's a joke. she pulls herself back together. but, forget that. she loved the boy after all. it is not her story.

a girl loves the boy. what else do you remember about her? it is not her story.

#im upset about women in shonen again #i want to scream #how am i suppose to feel happy about this story when the female characters are so secondary #they deserve better #naruto #mha #bnha #ruroni kenshin #cookie if you guess who the characters are

[bootlickerhawks]

You were asking who Bakugo lost to and it’s Tsuyu, and yes I am also shocked even though I voted her

poor kid can't catch a break 😭 first he gets curb stomped by Shigafo and now the Extras are teabagging his corpse

#asks #bnha #what good is having a rabi- *cough* i mean /dedicated/ fanbase if you can't even beat the frog girl secondary character 😔 #(yall can take your guesses as to who bkg's husband and child are) #yes it DID take me an embarrassing amount of time to make this thanks for asking :D #bnha spoilers #<- cuz of bakugou's ''dead'' body

[wr0ngwarp]

human contradiction

a symbolic piece of jet set radio art that is so mired in headcanon/au stuff that the symbolism has no basis in canon and its halfway to nonsense. this is a picture of Beat

i actually had this art sitting around in my files for like half a year because i felt, like, Embarrassed to post this. but life is too short not to embrace the ouroboros of hypfix bullshit and i also want it out of my to post folder

bwaah

i dont even remember why i drew a bwaah of the Purely Metaphorical Cabbit Beat. whatever. bwaah

#jet set radio #beat jsr #jsr #jsr beat #FOR SOME EXPLANATION FOR TEH CURIOUS: #in me and my sibling's take on jsr (jet set radio paradox is wat we call it lol) #we ended up going with the ''beat is gouji's kid'' theory #(i know very uncharacteristic of me to just roll with a popular fanon theory like that. forgive me) #and like theres a lot i could say about that decision but whats relevant to this art #is that beat was doig a Lot of self-identity suppression until he ran away #he was like. worlds scariest 12 year old tbh. #ALSO weve associated beat with both rabbits and cats. so i guess Whatever. Cabbit #ugh beat of COURSE youre such a special boy you get to have a mythical creature fursona. #this is the second time a character has been assigned Cabbit for symbolic reasons. huh #Does this mean Gouji's secondary fursona (aside from a rhino) is a cat? Yes. I'm sorry #somewhere in the depths of pseud's files there is a gouji catboy drawing #this is such a low quality infodump but in my defense its been like 6 months since this drawing #there is more to this i do not remember how to put it into words. #the thoughts are not fresh in my mind. #i jast need to get this posted while im feeling brave so it doesnt rot.

[cloudysfluffs]

what if i made sa//m and m//ax tickle art..............has anyone in this community other than me played those telltale games even <////3

#the thing is i probably wouldnt even draw sa//m OR m//ax #i wanna draw this obscure secondary character from the de///vils playhouse gettign fcuking WRECKED #but even in the fandom he is 1) not very well known and/or 2) not very well liked #but hes my GUY. my favorite character Of All Time. my skrunlly beast #amd I KNOW some of you will be like 'be delf indulgement and do it anyway' but you DONT UNDERSTANDJSKDJ #he and his ler look a 🤏 little bit scary terrifying. i think everyone would just be like 'what the hell is going on' #anyway. might do it anyway #if anyone knows/correctly guesses who im talking about btw i will do it

[br1ghtestlight]

extremely smart bob's burgers fan realizes just now that season one is 13 episodes and season two is 9 episodes and if you add them together thats 22 episodes because the first two seasons were produced to be one regular season rather than two extremely short seasons. only took me like eleven months

#internally i always kinda viewed seasons one & two as the same season #both writing and production-wise #but i guess they technically arent. lots of important secondary characters introduced in season two who were probably SUPPOSED #to be introduced in season one like darryl tammy zeke etc #season 3+ are all standard production seasons. and season three is also when they redid the intro and credits i believe! #no more comic sans </3 #txt #bob's burgers

[beneaththeshadows]

I thought of doing something nice for this year's Valentine's Day, so here's a poll with rare pairings from F&B (I decided to choose a Targ/dragonrider and a non Targ/dragonrider, just to do the cliché "hold on me" pose). Whoever you people chose as the winner, I'll draw them on a little (romantic) dragon trip

#asoiaf #fire and blood #A song of ice and fire #text #I know some of them are very minor and very rare to come by #but I think they all have some interesting dynamics for shipping #and they're fun too #so vote for your favorite I guess #also important to mention #why is it so hard to find any alternative ships for both the OG Rhaenys and Laena? #I swear I tried to include at least one of the two #but beyond their main and secondary ships #they had no other (non targ) characters to go with #especially Laena #depending on how the drawing goes I might do one poll specifically with HotD ships later on

[adaines-furious-feast]

I know nobody cares but this can’t live in my head

I have an OC. I’ve never had an OC for a fandom before but this is maybe the best character I’ve ever made so I thought I’d share her here because I have nowhere else to share here. 

Dottie Cruller. This is long. I’m sorry.

Dottie, or Doughrethy Cruller, is the daughter of Lady Donetta’s younger brother. She is a person shaped doughnut. Her parents both died in a boating accident when she was six and she was adopted by her aunt and uncle – mostly because they couldn’t get her aunt’s inheritance if they abandoned her.

Dottie is 15 at the beginning of the campaign. She is a bard with a love for history and really learning about the politics of the world. Her favourite question is “how would everyone react to this”. So her bardic inspiration comes in the form of “remember in xyz battle when this thing happened”. She’s the kind of nerd that really admires the cool kids, so she really likes the princesses, but she also asks for plausible deniability when they’re up to something because Queen Caramelinda is her favourite person. She gets an acceptance from the queen that she doesn’t get from her aunt and uncle.

Dottie is disabled. She needs a walking stick and has chronic pain. It’s really a role of the dice at the start of every day as to whether that’s going to limit her movement or not.  

The original idea or trope I was playing on for Dottie was the “we must sacrifice someone pure and innocent to succeed” kind of thing. It dates back to Ancient Greece and is still used today. But what if that sweet innocent sacrifice had the strongest will to live?

I have mentally played the whole ACOC campaign with her which I know is not how this works but I tell myself stories to get to sleep and this is one of them.

So Dottie starts the campaign with very low self-esteem, mostly because she is frequently reminded that she is not part of the royal family and if she doesn’t make herself useful she will be thrown out. But as, first, her bardic inspiration is useful during the ambush – her uncle tells her explicitly to stay in the carriage but that doesn’t happen – and then in Comida where her understanding of the political map of the world comes in useful she starts to get more confident.  

She is also... very good at lying. Because she’s always thinking about what other people think, so she’s great at masking. That and she grew up in close proximity to the best liar in Candia, though didn’t realise his biggest lie until too late.  

So after the tournament, she makes a show of going to the Cathedral to pray partially because she does believe in the Bulb and wants protection, and partially because she knows how this will look to people. After her truly miraculous survival in the Cathedral ambush, she does multi-class as a cleric, though not a healer. Dottie is all about trying to understand the world and her place in it.

Dottie believes she is unlovable. Not only to her aunt and uncle – her aunt has never been cruel to her, but she’s never been loving either – but to anybody. And especially to the Bulb. Because when you’re six years old and your parents are both killed in an accident, you’re told that the Bulb needed angels, the Bulb needed them close to it, they’re in the loving embrace of the Bulb. But when you were also in that accident, and didn’t die... well, doesn’t that mean that the Bulb doesn’t love you? You’re not even good enough for the Bulb. And while, when she was six and sitting after her parents’ funeral pondering this, a very nice citrus yellow lady told her that wasn’t the case and she was lovable, that fear always been internalized in her. Then, after battle after battle where she really should have died, but didn’t, it feels more and more like not even the Bulb loves her.

Dottie’s birthday takes place during the trip back to Castle Candy, and is forgotten by everybody. Which is understandable given, you know, a war just broke out. And she doesn’t mind too much. But a Sweet Sixteen has got to be important in Candia. So when she gets back, and finds in her chambers a box with a label wishing her a happy birthday in what looks like Queen Caramelinda’s handwriting, she’s so sure this is a good thing. Except for the watersteel razor blades under the box lid. She doesn’t die, but is unable to cast magic until someone else uses a staff gifted to her by Captain Chedder – for saving the life of a cheese sailor – to do a greater restoration.  

After Jet’s funeral, Caramelinda reminds her quite bluntly that Dottie’s not her daughter. A conversation with Jack is the first time since her parent’s funeral that she’s said aloud that the Bulb doesn’t love her. At this point, Dottie doesn’t know if her aunt is alive or not. She’s assuming the worst because everything else is the worst. At that moment, her entire family is dead. The only family she has by law is an uncle who is a traitor and has told her for the past 10 years she doesn’t matter and the royal family will just throw her away. And while her head knows that’s wrong, she’s now wondering if maybe he knew more than she did. She knows the Rocks are hurting, but now she’s wondering if maybe she doesn’t matter as much as she thought she did after all.

When it comes to Saccarina, Dottie doesn’t immediately flip to her side, but given she feels distant to the Rocks and is trained to be a political advisor, she happily sees a role for herself beside the new queen and accepts her as the queen. Dottie also doesn’t feel like she would stand out as being “broken” in Saccarina’s court. It wasn’t that the Rocks were abelist, but she didn’t see people like her there. She does in Saccarina’s marudas. However, Dottie doesn’t spend much time with Saccarina, as she’s captured in Buzzybrook. She’s unable to move fast enough to get back to the portal.

She finds out that her uncle has told everyone that she was kidnapped by the Rocks, and he is very worried about her. She begs Grissini not to take her back there, and actually manages to win him over when she saves his life during an ambush that is quickly foiled, but there’s not much he can do. At Castle Candy, Calroy plays the role of worried guardian for all of five minutes, long enough for Grissini to leave, before placing Dottie in the care of the church, where she’ll be an assurance for them that he plays his part of the bargain.  

Dottie has not spent the past 10 years learning how important it is to be two faced to fail on the final exam. She dutifully plays the part, and actually manages to get the nuns fooled long enough to catch some gossip, that her uncle may be trying to sweeten the deal – no pun intended – with a certain gluten-filled emperor with a marriage. Dottie considers going along with it. She hasn’t heard anything about Saccarina in this time and for all she knows they’re all dead. Being close to the emperor wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing. She sends a Sending spell to Grissini, disguised as a prayer to the Bulb, asking for advice. His advice comes on the night of the siege on Castle Candy, before the Rocks troops have been spotted, when he comes into the tent where she is being held and tells her in no uncertain terms that this would be terrible and while that loaf of bread is a war hero he would be a terrible person to have to spend any amount of time with.

Dottie wouldn’t play a major role in the siege. She is one person – two with Grissini. But she does take Grissini out of the fight against the Rocks, so that’s good. The only grudge she really has at this point is against her fucking uncle, but confronting him doesn’t go so well and he manages to escape. At least until the King finds him.

This is the first time Dottie learns about Cinnamon, and is horrified. She becomes even more horrified when she learns about how Cinnamon got so big, mostly because this is going to be pretty hard to smooth over politically. But Dottie still pledges herself to Saccarina after the battle. The Queen is going to needs someone who knows how to sweet talk people and, while she doesn’t intend to be quite as deceitful as her uncle, she learned how to be manipulative from the best. If you’re going to upend an entire religious system, you’re going to need someone who knows how to talk good.  

Does Dottie ever get over her belief that she is unlovable? Yes, because Grissini shows her that isn’t true. He is the first fatherly figure she has had since she was six and, even though she’s almost an adult now, she welcomes having that fatherly figure in her life.  

She also gets the title of Marquesa of Muffinfield when her aunt is found dead (whether the wound is self inflicted literally or just metaphorically is never determined). It’s something that Dottie held at great importance after the escape from the castle because she was not going to let her fucking uncle take her birthright. That anger at him was the only thing that kept her going.

Anyway, that’s Dottie. Nobody has read this long, I know, but if someone has, I hope you like it. I love her, she’s the best character I’ve ever written. I love the idea of having a character who is every part the trope of “innocent sacrifice” who keeps living and is convinced that god hates her because she keeps living. I also love Grissini’s character, and mourn the alternate universe where he ends up an ally, because I think it could have happened.

#hey look it's my oc #I have spent months thinking about this character and I'm not going to be able to share her anywhere else #So here she is #Dottie Cruller #A donut girl with a bread stick cane #Dimension 20 #a crown of candy #a crown of candy spoilers #I guess? #talking about the secondary characters in the last adventuring party inspired me to write it down

[scribefindegil]

i am simply holding a small sign that says "Let Shinra Have A Good Day"

#was not expecting one of my big manga takeaways to be #'i have now become fiercely protective of this secondary character' #but here we are i guess #maybe the heroic stupidity flipped my Magnus Burnsides switch #maybe i'm just like this #idk #mp100