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sytokun · 2 months

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To anyone thinking or saying Dillon Goo is unworthy of acquiring RWBY, not because of anything realistic like finances or the size of his studio, but because he's "just an animator", or just a rando from the internet who cannot write or run RWBY:

Thanks for perpetuating the piece of shit mindset that every soul-sucking corporation and braindead consumer has: that animators have no value or are just there to push buttons and make pixels move for the real creatives.

Animators are artists and creators. They have to work with numerous departments to make things work: They have to know what the writer/director wants, and tell them if it's even possible to put to screen; they have to work with artists and character designers to tell if they can commit that art into moving parts. And for an animated show, they're kind of... I dunno, the entire backbone of its production.

Anyone stupid enough to claim that, by their logic, should claim that Miles and Kerry were "just writers" and don't have the right nor the intelligence to have any opinions on RWBY's animation, character designs or music. That's how I know you have zero fucking idea how any actual media is produced, because in your head, these positions all just exist as separate little boxes in your brain so it's simple enough for you to grasp.

It was "just an animator" who made RWBY in the first place, dumbass. A "rando" making animations on the internet that Rooster Teeth took a chance on, and now he's responsible for their best-selling IP. By comparison, Dillon is starting at a way better starting position than Monty was, with a successful YouTube channel, public support from multiple current and ex-CRWBY like J Grelle (Tyrian's VA), Kim Newman (former animator who animated Sun's gunchucks in V5) and Jessica Nigri (Cinder's VA), and multiple collaborations with big companies like Hoyoverse.

If anything, I'd expect an animator like Dillon to know and care enough about his staff to not give them near-irreparable spinal damage. Gee, I wonder why Newman would think he'd be a better employer to work with? Dillon would know how an animation project is run and budgeted. Him being an animator is a benefit, for god's sake.

Monty had character design sketches but needed help from professional artists to fully design them. He knew bits of the plot but needed help fleshing it out. Do you have enough brain cells to rub together to know that's precisely what Dillon can do, too? Fuckin', I dunno, hire people? For his studio??

I'd rather have an animator run RWBY because RWBY is an animated series and he would know precisely 1) what complements the medium best and 2) the precise limits of what can or cannot work within his budget. By your ass-backwards logic, I would rather get EC Myers to run RWBY's production over Dillon just because he's a writer and has been employed with RT longer.

That's another moronic argument: "He's only been employed by RT for 1 Volume". Man, I don't care if he's been there for zero Volumes, his work clearly shows a greater understanding of RWBY's aesthetic, mainstream appeal and style than its own showrunners have for the past 7 years. Or is seniority in a defunct company responsible for a steadily unprofitable IP suddenly a positive in this business deal?

I need you to be aware that RWBY as an IP is a joke outside of the bubble of its fandom, and I am telling you bluntly as a fan. Nobody takes it seriously and the ones that do only praise it for either its action choreography or its character designs, one of which is guaranteed with Dillon's studio. Diehard fans may love RWBY, warts and all, but all that love and support clearly wasn't enough to keep it alive, because its reputation was already cemented from its own mismanagement.

What you do is you get the right person for the job. And Dillon ticks a lot of boxes for it. If you think he's unable to acquire RWBY because he's not a big corpo or cannot meet Warner's asking price, that's 100% fair. If you think he's unable to create something on the scale of Volume 9, that's also 100% fair, but only if you're attached to the idea that you'd rather have Volume 10 or more of the same RWBY that was operating at a loss than any RWBY at all. Or if you'd rather see a season of 14 episodes 15 minutes long where 60-70% of it is made up of exposition, talking head scenes and increasingly overambitious world expanding, over shorter episodes with amazing RWBY action sequences with a story that never bites off more than it can chew.

But if you think Dillon is unqualified or worse, unworthy or undeserving (what a weirdo thing to say about a person, like owning RWBY is like inheriting the fucking throne of Gondor), all because he's "just an animator" or because he was smart enough to see RT for the meat-grinder hellhole it was and left to find success on his own, you're full of shit.

And if you disapprove of him because of his association with Shane, go find a restroom because your unsightly hateboner is showing. It's been almost ten years since the letter and you all have been holding this unfettered rage clenched between your buttcheeks longer than Shane's ever been with Rooster Teeth.

And for what? Pointing out Rooster Teeth is a fucked place to work at? Whoops, that was true and now it's six feet under for every scandal and worker abuse case they brought on themselves. For stealing and cannibalising their creators' IPs? Whoops, that's fucking true as well.

#rwby #rwde #dillon goo

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kaedeichinose · 2 years

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genuine question but what IS crwby to you people. is it the animators like kim newman who now have debilitating back injuried thanks to poor work conditions? or perhaps some of the hundreds of animators unceremoniously layed off and then silently replaced by freelancers and temp workers because its cheaper? voice actors like kdin or arryn who were severely abused and mistreated and unpaid?

if the answer is yes to any of those questions than supporting rwby and rt does not and will never support crwby.

it's so easy to see it as one person or a handful of people. surely gray, who to many WAS a beloved member of crwby for years lest we forget, was just the problem and now that hes gone things'll get better. except they didn't. people are still unpaid for work they did AFTER he got ousted and abused AFTER he left. there's no special team that makes rwby that gets to sit in a special little room with entirely separate management. the "crwby" concept is identical to the CEO of walmart calling every one of their employees a member of the family. a blatant lie to get people to like them.

rt could put out a video tomorrow confirming blake and yang are a couple and I need you all to come to terms with the fact that blake and yang aren't real but the actual queer people rt is throwing through the meat grinder ARE. and they are the ones getting hurt the most if you decide to prioritize your internet cartoon over making an actual line in the sand. Not even Blake's fucking voice actress is immune from this! And no, boycotting the company will NOT hurt the victims here because they weren't and will not get paid what they're owed or suddenly treated well. your lack of support will not hurt the "good" members of crwby because they can't lose what they already weren't getting.

Your first membership isn't helping crwby.

Your viewership of rwby isn't helping crwby.

Nothing you do to support that show will help anyone actually making it and if you truly cared about crwby in any capacity you'll cut RT out like a growth and hold them responsible for their actions without groveling over the hypothetical good part of RT that doesn't exist.

#rwde #rwby #long post #sorry im so mad people have the audacity to be like but crwby tho about this #blakes fucking voice actress was udnerpaid and threatened to be fired if she complained #like?#your ships arent real but the people making the show are

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kitkatopinions · 7 months

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thank you so much for saying how crwby = roosterteeth because it's shocking how willfully ignorant fans can be. the blatant racism of rwby bleeding into the writing is a result of the writers own bigotry and prejudice. rwby fans, especially rwby twitter fans lack any sort of media literacy (im not saying this to be pretentious) on why you can't blindly seperate art from the artist and how rt's bigotry affects the show. they keep on brushing off really huge issues within the writing such as the white fang with 'ok everyone admits that arc was bad!!! moving on!!!' as if it was one bad episode and not a 5 volume long arc built in the very foundation of the show. like, it says something about the writers who tried making a racism allegory yet in their latest season and fucking spin off they keep on dehumanizing their minority character by referring to her as a cat or removing her ethnic traits like WHAT????? tldr: so sick of rwby fans huffing the roosterteeth fumes and not understanding that roosterteeths bigotry is a problem that bleeds into rwby like sewer water

I mean, for real! One of the most frustrating things is that a lot of people don't even bother with saying 'everyone admits that arc was bad' when it comes to the White Fang and they instead try to insist that there was nothing wrong with it!

Like it or not - intentional or not - RWBY is full of the bigotry and lack of education of the writers and company. It's wholly unable to be looked at as a standalone. People want to watch RWBY without acknowledgment towards Miles and Kerry, the other members of CRWBY with bigoted pasts or who are RT higher ups, and without acknowledgement towards Rooster Teeth, because they want to constantly give RWBY the benefit of the doubt and insist that everyone else gives it the benefit of the doubt too. People will straight up pretend that RWBY isn't made by the people it's made by, like I once saw someone say that RWBY was 'made by and for queer people.' People literally just want to cut Rooster Teeth out of consideration when it comes to RWBY so that they can feel better about liking or watching it.

Also the same people that were like "Well, CRWBY isn't Rooster Teeth, and I want to support CRWBY, but fuck RT" so that they could still feel morally a-okay while watching RWBY on crunchyroll and tweeting 'greenlight volume10' are the same people that sold out bumbleby merch selling directly from the Rooster Teeth store that idolize the voice actors for Blake and Yang despite Yang's voice actor being an RT higher up who was on a homophobic podcast, and they took no issue with them being models for overpriced Bumbleby stuff on the Rooster Teeth website in order to sell the stuff better. Like, they were all gung ho about not giving any money to Rooster Teeth (even though they did nothing to ensure that watching RWBY on crunchyroll wouldn't give money to Rooster Teeth still) and about not being down with Rooster Teeth higher ups, but they'll do anything for that bees merch, and to feel better about the bees, so who cares if Barb was literally name dropped as a bad RT higher up who treated people badly.

This fandom is wild tbh, and people's behavior regarding the White Fang is absolutely the worst of it. They'll shrug and dismiss anything and insist that we 'give them more chances' and 'stop seeing everything so negatively' and 'realize that people make mistakes.' The mistakes aren't just a blip in the radar, and aren't few and far between, and aren't even fully in the past, because they're still doing things like having Robyn (a character meant to be a cool hero) call Marrow 'Wags,' and having Blake get called not human, and having Yang essentially say 'You're a minority!' as a means of flirting in the same season where they make a thieving racoon into an anti-romani stereotype and introduce their first non-binary characters in the form of animals that get brutally murdered. Like this is not the behavior of a progressive show made by progressive people that isn't at all affected by the open bigotry of a parent company. This is a show that makes me go 'yeah, it totally makes sense to me that one of the frat boys with a history of misogyny who helped create and write the show for a decade said the n word at age twenty six, this show reflects that sort of behavior.' And people need to take off their (ruby) rose colored glasses and start seeing the show for what it is.

#rwde #rwby

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citadelofmythoughts · 2 months

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Fandoms of media long since finished are still thriving. Some grow slow and then pick up speed. Here on tumblr nbc Hannibal still trends despite the show having ended ten years ago. It’s sad. I wanted to cry at work today because despite the bad parts RT was part of my life since I was 15. I had my first relationship because of it. I’ve come across so many talented and passionate fans bc of rwby (you being one of them). So I’m sad. Not just about the state of the show but for all the people who Clearly didn’t know this was going to happen. Like they were just talking about the new camp camp season and rwby beyond and the stinky dragon puppet show. So many people have lost their jobs with no warning and that sucks so bad. But as for us? We have each other. I’ll probably see if I can buy the blue rays of the show bc online media loves to be nuked from the internet. But we are passionate and we have love for the show and crwby and something ending in production doesn’t mean all that we gained and grew and loved goes away.

I’m sad today. But I’m grateful to have been there for it. And I’m wishing so much that everyone finds a job that respects them and treats them fairly.

I’m also wishing for the death of monolithic corporations and for smaller studios in the arts to thrive again so that many more people can work their passions without fear of being swallowed and then discarded again

(Not saying early RT was peefect this last bit is just about big companies in German since RT is far from the last place to do sudden massive layoffs)

I hope all those who are losing their jobs have soft landings and I can't thank CRWBY enough for the magic that is RWBY.

I've seen more than one person say that it's changed their life and I'm no different. It's inspired me, uplifted me. It's been a refuge when the world was horrible. I've become a much better writer because I wanted to play in the sandbox they gave us.

I'm not without hope. Hope sustains us. RWBY is built around the concept. So, someday, hopefully not too far in the distant future it might return.

Until then, I'm still gonna play in the fertile fields that Monty planted for us.

And Warner Brothers can rot in hell. I'm never touching a single one of their properties ever again.

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kdinjenzen · 1 year

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Having worked for RT in the past and on RWBY, would you still recommend people watch the show or engage with the fandom? Or would you prefer people not bother with the show or community?

You're all people, you can choose to do whatever you all want.

However, so many of my friends have been underpaid for years and now are out of work now because of that company after what feels like a lifetime of mistreatment.

There's basically no animation staff left there anymore (the CRWBY you knew doesn't have jobs anymore) and they continue to mistreat anyone who hasn't been promoted due to nepotism.

I gave 10 years of my life to that company, hearing constant promises of "We won't do those harmful things anymore" - I believed them every time and devoted myself more and more to being a proponent of change and advocating for the fact that mistakes they made with me, with my friends, with the community would NOT be repeated.

I put my whole ass on the line trying to do what's right, and they didn't change a damn thing... and now so many people are unemployed after so much work... so much unpaid overtime... so many removed benefits and care... and they swept it all under the rug.

I am a firm believer that people can change, but after everything that they did to the people who actually built and made that company so much money and the lack of care they gave them and how easily they tossed them away... no thanks, I'm good.

I've spent months doing what I can to help myself, and everyone wronged by RT, to recover and find new work.

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roz-ani · 2 months

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Come on, we all knew it was coming. Still, it doesn’t change the fact that this has an impact on the audience and most importantly the employees. I saw that a few of them had to learn about this from Twitter, which is unfortunately common in the entertainment industry. Plus the whole "unprofitable fandom" phrase? But this is not what I want to talk about.

I honestly had no idea how important RT was to people. I recognised that they had some good shows, plus the whole RTX, but now I see how much the company has achieved. It had issues, there's no point in hiding that, but I'm still grateful for their productions. The RWBY fandom has changed my life completely. It's how I've met some of the best people in my life, it's the reason my blog exists. The show is in a tough spot right now. Well, it's been for a while, but even though I have kinda moved on from it, I sincerely hope it gets picked up by another studio.

So, all I can say is thank you. Thank you, RT. Thank you, Monty. Thank you, CRWBY. Thank you to every single person who worked so hard to create something amazing for us to enjoy, not only RWBY or RvB. I hope the future holds something good for you.

#rwby #rooster teeth #mine

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lacunadraws · 1 month

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Hello, is everything ok?

You know, I’ve been thinking about how to answer this for far longer than I should have. So I’ll just be honest. The short answer is…no, not really. But another answer is that I’m not, like, poorly off. I imagine this question was asked in regards to the little post I made to acknowledge that all the blood sweat and tears crwby and co went through on account of the RT fiasco and then deleted. And that may have felt a lil cryptic and weird for you guys in regards to how little I’ve been posting anything.

I’ve got a lot of stuff going on at the moment, but also some personal stuff. Mostly it’s the medical and financial stuff that really worries me. I’ve got a respiratory thing going on and a thing that makes me phenomenally exhausted all the time. As well as a long term chronic illness Ivey lived with almost my whole life that’s also frustrating.

It’s also frustrating that I have a lot of creative stuff halfway started or like almost started, but I just lack whatever it is to pull me through to the finish. Fumes? Motivation? Not sure. It’s all stuff I want to finish an then stick on the tumblr fridge and say, “Lookie lookie!”

But I’m just constantly tired, and sick, and drained.

There’s a lot of work I want to get out there—fan works and original stuff, but I just don’t have the stamina right now, let alone wondering if I can even be successful doing what I do? It takes me forever to finish anything I do. And I sometimes wonder if I should just jump ship to writer-only career stuff versus art-only career stuff. I love doing both, but it’s wearing me down trying to do them in such a fruitless manner.

And I’m sure this is just the latest bout of burnout and depression, but I just haven’t found the right tools to help me cope yet, but I’ll get there.

Anyway, thanks for checking up on me. I apologize if that was kind of a downer. Truthfully, I’ve been getting better in recent days.

I hate ending texts on weirds points I didn’t plan out, so what’s the band you’ve been listening to most lately?

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ozmaonabadday · 2 months

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I’ve taken some time to gather my thoughts, and I’m sure I’m not going to say anything that anyone else hasn’t already said, but I figured I’d share my thoughts nonetheless, because were a community, and that means we care about each other.

I was introduced to Rooster Teeth near the end of middle school, by the same friend who introduced me to Neon Genesis Evangelion, and forever changed the trajectory of my life.

We watch Red Vs Blue season 5 while I was staying the night, and I was absolutely hooked.

I went back and caught up on the rest of the series, and honestly, I think I related to Church way too hard.

Few years passed. I saw they’d put RvB on Netflix, and feeling nostalgic I rewatched it. Out of curiosity, I decided to check out what RT had done after that, only to discover they’d put out SEVEN MORE SEASONS, which I of course immediately binged, like a gluttonous beasty.

It was in the bittersweet aftermath of that binge session that I decided to give RWBY a shot. I’d seen it advertised under RvB playlists, and out of desperation for more of anything like RvB, I decided to give the Red Trailer a shot.

Now this was during the hiatus between Volume 2 and Volume 3, shortly after Monty’s passing, and in those days I was nowhere near as online as I am now, but RWBY is definitely a huge part of why I am online. I tore through the first two Volumes. I started making fanart, I tried to introduce my friends to the show. I desperately googled any information I could find about when Volume 3 would be coming out (this is when I learned about Monty’s passing, and his impact on some of my favorite moments in RvB).

When V3 was announced, I immediately subscribed to RT first. And have been following RWBY ever since. I watched each episode as it came out, I would binge the entire series (some times multiple times) before a new volume came out. I joind RP servers, I created oc’s, I created a LOT of fanart. I have a yearly tradition of drawing a Ruby Rose piece just to check my progress as an artist. Just last year I started writing fanfic. I’ve got a bit of merch. I love RWBY. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve kept up with RvB pretty well, and I watched a bit of Camp Camp and Gen:Lock, but RWBY is my shit.

I know a lot of people are sad, scared, and confused right now. I know I was when I found out yesterday. I didn’t exactly keep up with the nitty-gritty of what was happening with RT as a studio, and a lot of the projects didn’t really strike my fancy, but there were a lot of things I adored from RT. I’m sad to see them closing their doors, and I’m just as desperate for information as the rest of you.

But we’re a community, and that means we care about each other.

I care about you.

I don’t care who you ship with who, I don’t care if you hate my favorite character, or what head canons you have for which characters. I care about you, and I’m glad you’ve been a part of this community for as long as you have been. I’m glad to have known you, even remotely. I’m glad to have seen your fanart, or gotten mad at your hot takes, or laughed at your incorrect quotes. I’m glad we’ve been a community.

This isn’t a declaration of defeat. I don’t know the future of RWBY any better than the rest of you do.

This is an acknowledgment, and an expression of gratitude. CRWBY may have made the series, but you all made this community. As much as it can sometimes be a dumpster fire, you make me proud to be a part of the FNDM.

So, I guess… thanks.

#rwby #rwby fandom #rwby fndm #fndm #rooster teeth #greenlight volume 10

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knights-of-onyx · 2 months

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Welp, this day has come...

Rooster Teeth has officially ceased operations, and as someone who has watched rwby throughout the last few years, it's sad because the fate of the show is now truly unknown, moreso than it was before. While not confirmed that all IP of RT are cancelled, it wouldn't surprise me if this were the ultimate outcome.

Quite frankly, it's also not surprising that this happened, given with all the things and controversies that RT has been involved in, it was a company that I did not see surviving into the future. My only hope was that RWBY would be completed prior to this happening, but alas, this did not happen.

In typical corporate America fashion, everyone, including CRWBY, found out that RT was shutting down via a tweet from warner bros, which is so typical of the dystopian hellscape that we live in. This is why we cannot have nice things, because it wasn't financially worth it to WB to keep RT alive.

For what it's worth, I enjoyed rwby. Yes, it had its up's and down's and it was far from perfect. Through it all, the community still came together to support what was once a niche project and saw it bloom and grow. It still has a place in my heart, flaws and all. Yes, I've critiqued the show and how certain things were handled, or the issue of character bloat, but it was out of a good place, not out of malice.

Monty Oum's dream became a reality, and I thank Kerry and Miles and the rest of CRWBY for keeping that dream alive for as long as they have. Maybe, in time, they will finish the story, and for what it's worth, I hope they do. Small projects (even if RT was larger in scale) like this are simply harder to run and manage thanks to our corporate overlords. It's always about the money.

If I might wrap up this rant and eulogy with some advice for the stakeholders of WB, who ultimately don't give two flying fucks about the news that came out today: no matter how much money you make off your dividends or gains, it doesn't come with you when you get laid to rest six feet deep in your wooden box. What really matters during our short, precious lives is the human experience. That experience is made possible through community, and nothing holds a community together more than it's ability to tell stories. Stories, like RWBY, brought people together from all walks of life, to watch, to share, and to enjoy. Friends and family were made along the way, and no amount of money can truly, genuinely replace that. So take your sacks of money and fund those that can make those stories actually possible. Fix the problem that you created with your incessant greed.

Until the next time my friends, whenever that may be. Thank you for all the memories.

Thus kindly I scatter.

#rwby #rooster teeth #fuck warner bros #fuck capitalism

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littlemisssquiggles · 2 months

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Do you think ozpin and qrow could some how be friends again/ qrow trust ozpin again

Hello there anon-chan! Thank you for the inbox!

In all honesty m’fam, this was a subject matter I was hoping the series would’ve covered after V6. After that season, I was hoping that part of Qrow’s development moving forward would’ve had him reconsidering his entire relationship with Ozpin; touching base on things such as how they first met and really giving the audience a further deep dive in their history together. This would then ultimately leed up to Qrow realizing that he was wrong for how he treated Oz after the reveal, learning to forgive him again and the two would essentially reboot their friendship with deeper feelings of trust and understanding.

Judging from the events of V6, a lot of Qrow’s feelings about himself were synonymous with his ties with Oz. There was no doubt that Oz was someone Qrow revered and thought of highly.

It’s as he told him back during that season. No one else in his life---not his clan, not even his own sister---ever believed in him due to his misfortune semblance. According to Qrow, he was cursed. But it was Oz who made him gain some confidence in his own self worth by making him believe in the good he could accomplish even with the type of semblance he had.

Words alone are not enough to surmise my disappointment in the fact that right after the writers teased the history and meaningful dynamic that Qrow and Oz shared together, they just dropped it after V6. Instead of making Qrow focus on his bond with Oz, they instead awkwardly did everything they could to have Qrow not discuss Oz.

Instead they had Qrow pining over his relationship with Clover for two seasons. Clover---a character he barely knew and just happened to develop a small kindred comradery for like a couple of months versus Ozpin who he has known FOR YEARS. Probably since he was even a student at Beacon and had remained loyal to well into middle age. Like seriously?

Don't get me wrong, I liked Clover as a character. However I honestly hated how he was the focus

Qrow wasn’t even allowed to focus on his friendship with Winter since even their rivalry dating back to the events of V3 was pushed aside in favour of Clover who only first appeared in V7.

Don’t get me wrong. I actually thought Clover was a decent character. However I really didn’t like how he suddenly became a person of massive importance to Qrow when the two barely knew each other.

If Clover shared the same past with Qrow or the two were actually good friends/rivals who knew each other dating way back to their academy days then I can get behind why Qrow cared that much about him after his death.

But no. There were other characters that Qrow shared deeper bonds than Clover, like Oz, and yet, all Qrow focused on between V7 to V8 was this one dude. I will never understand why the Writers chose this route to go for Qrow. It just felt so off and misplaced; at least to me.

Shout-out to my fellow Snowbird shippers since we too were robbed of any potential further development between Qrow and Winter since that it seems their dynamic was replaced in favour of one brewing with Robyn Hill.

So, in a nutshell anon-chan, I do think Qrow can trust Oz again and rekindle their friendship. However, it’s up to the CRWBY Writers to implement that into the story canon. Thus far, they haven’t done a good job on having Qrow focus on his ties to Oz. But who knows? Perhaps we’ll get something in that epilogue series that was recently announced by RT. RWBY Beyond.

Hopefully that series will drop some crumbs on the aftermath of Qrow and Oz’s relationship, finally giving closure to of us who were wondering about it.

LMS (2024)

#squiggles answers: rwby #qrow branwen #professor ozpin #qrow and ozpin #qrow and clover #qrow and winter #qrow and robyn

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pilot-boi · 1 year

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Plotbunny AU Anon Here:

Listen to me and listen well everyone.

ARKOS

WILL

GET

THEIR

HAPPY

ENDING

THIS

TIME

So help me, if RT wants to mock us with their angst fuel in recent stuff regarding Arkos, I will make this fluffy fix-it story be their shelter!

The SS Arkos hasn't sunk in this story o-mine, and Cinder needs to get rekked to make it happen then she will not make it out of Vale.

(insert image of Looming Alyx With Glare)

(I already decided a while back how Cinder would meet her end, and fittingly, it all comes back to something Pyrrha once told Jaune that Canon even reinforced for me as a viable tactic > : } )

"They are the darkness, and we are the light."

Oh thank freaking god

THEY DESERVE TO BE HAPPY GOD DAMMIT

CRWBY WHY DO YOU KEEP TAUNTING US

Don’t get me wrong, I love the angst fuel. Jaune being tormented feeds me better than any actual food

But thank goodness they get to be happy in this AU

I’m interested to find out what this viable tactic is to defeat Cinder. Something about literally using light to defeat the darkness, which is a cool idea

#rwby #jaune arc #pyrrha nikos #arkos #cinder fall #anonymous #mine #asks #plotbunny au

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itsclydebitches · 1 year

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With all the discussion of CRWBY/RT's apparent obsession with heroic sacrifices in RWBY as of late (and how poorly framed/managed they are), a part of me can't help but wonder if they're trying to chase the high of Epsilon/Church's sacrifice at the end of Red VS Blue Season 13. (Here's the scene in question for context: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5jM_mrOqec) Which I will admit, I found to be a pretty good scene as a sendoff to the character and at the time thought it was a nice way to end the show. Though RT ended up souring it by continuing on with season 15.

Thank you for the clip! I obviously have no idea what RT's motivations might be regarding the prevalence of these sacrifices - is it "chasing the high" or is RvB just early evidence of a writing trend? - but regardless, I like this a whole lot more than what RWBY's been giving us. I think this has a nice balance between the somber, emotional soundtrack and the funny one-liners that sound like they're core summaries of many character's personalities (unlike Weiss who suddenly becomes the comic relief). I like that Church (if I'm right about how is speaking there) doesn't actually end with "...I hate you all the least!" but has his actual goodbye speech once he's privately recording. I'm missing a ton of the nuances of his argument, but I like that it at least comes across as thought out: he's reassuring the AI voice that he's sure about this, he lays out how the sacrifice will hopefully help the others survive, he acknowledges that he's only here in the first place because of them, and there's some element of being "held back" that this sacrifice would do away with. Finally, I LOVE the self-referential acknowledgement that heroes don't get to see if their sacrifice was worth it (which is one of the problems with having Penny die and then chat with Winter, or Ruby drinking the tea and then waking up fine in the tree: suicide presented as just a journey where you don't really lose your connection to life), ending with the blank screen. We don't get to know if they win either! We are emotionally connected to Church in this moment, experiencing the story through him, and like him we don't get the reassurance of knowing whether the others survived! (Well, until you hit Season 14, apparently lol). You've just gotta have faith that the sacrifice meant something - "aint that a bitch."

And all this, I want to stress, is coming from someone who has NEVER watched more than like two episodes of RvB,which I've now totally forgotten. This scene is the entirety of my context... and I enjoyed it. Which I bring up largely because of the Moistcritikal drama. Personally, I take issue with the idea that someone's negative opinion of a clip is unreliable because they haven't seen the rest of the show. Does that mean then that my enjoyment is unreliable too? Most RWBY fans wouldn't say so because, after all, why would you get mad about others agreeing with you? They're only up in arms because he was critical of the show, rather than praising it, despite both situations stemming from the same ignorance. To say nothing of the fact that criticism is dismissed even when fans (like me) do keep up with the canon, a ton of the side material, are immersed in fandom, and are present for every major development. Doing everything "right," apparently, still doesn't earn you any trust in your opinion, so... why was all that necessary again?

I do believe that context (for obvious reasons) can severely skew an opinion one way or another. For example, I recently saw a new Magnus Archives listener saying that although they were loving the podcast, it really took them out of it to try and believe that all these people just happened to write down perfectly composed, poetic narratives about their experiences. I so wanted to say that there was a reason for this. That, eventually, the podcast would reveal a canonical explanation for how this occurs, taking what's originally a huge aspect of suspension of disbelief - arguably to the point of annoyance - and reframing it as a major worldbuilding detail that enhances the enjoyment instead of detracting from it. So there are obviously cases like that, just like I might enjoy the RvB scene more or less depending on my experience with the rest of the show... but that doesn't mean my enjoyment now is wrong? Nor is Moistcritikal's lack of enjoyment wrong. I find the 'Oh, you just don't understand and you're willingness to speak on the topic without every scrap of information is insulting' to be, itself, a pretty insulting response. This desire to invalidate someone's honest opinion of what they've been given is an issue on its own, but beyond that, a good show should be able to read well even without the rest of the context. Hasn't anyone ever analyzed a clip of a show in school that they enjoyed? Gotten excited over an ambiguous moment in a trailer? Decided to watch something based on just a video/GIF-set here on tumblr with no other info? Good media is good even when you don't fully know what's going on and bad media will read badly without the distraction of already being emotionally connected to the show. Toss in the fact that people can pick up a fair bit of context from the scenes themselves and that Moistcritikal had fans in the chat explaining the situation. People can still look at a clip and think the dialogue is badly written, or the acting shoddy, or the animation poor, or the whole conflict - once explanations are given - to be pretty badly conveyed. None of this takes an intimate knowledge of nine Volumes to develop an opinion on. Moistcritikal might miss character dynamic details like Yang standing in front of a passive Blake to 'protect' her from her little sister, but he can still respond to the general gist of the situation and the ways in which it was executed.

#rwde #rwby #RvB #mymetas

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lee-rambles-about-rwby · 1 year

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So I fully expected that when Neo finally faced Ruby, it would be when Ruby had been separated somehow (I think I assumed more like, Neo trapping her somehow though).

And I was really curious if/how Neo would communicate with Ruby since she doesn’t talk. Surely would have something to say to Ruby. And I mean yeah she could just silently attack Ruby, or do what she’s done in the past and like turn into Roman for a second to say “This is who I’m avenging and this is why I want you dead.” I thought it’d be really interesting for there to somehow be actual dialogue though, but without just being like “Oh look Neo can magically talk now!” obvs

THEN also last year when I saw RT suddenly using a Maya model of Pyrrha on a couple promo things instead of just continuing to the old images like they had been for a while, I remember thinking “Oh god Pyrrha is totally going to reappear in the show at some point. There’s no way they made a whole new model JUST for promo material”

Anyway, last episode was about the cruelest possible confirmation on both of those things, thanks crwby, thanks Miles and Kiersi

#rwby #rwby spoilers #rwby volume 9 #rwby volume 9 spoilers #lee speaks

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A Much-Needed Talk

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DISCLAIMER: I want to make it clear that, under no uncertain circumstances, I do not support RT. The company has committed many atrocious acts of harm, both to its employees, former or otherwise, and numerous marginalized groups that are utterly reprehensible and completely unacceptable. While I have Things to say about fans that continue to financially support RT via RWBY and RT's other IPs, this is not the place to divulge such criticism. As such, any discourse that potentially crops up under this fic will be promptly deleted. If you continue trying to create discourse or make my fic a hot spot for debate, you will be blocked and/or removed. You do not need to agree with me but I ask that you please respect this boundary. This will be posted on any and all future RWBY fics from this point forward.

I did not think I'd post another RWBY fic for a good long while yet but the autism brainrot hit back in April so I had to do it. Still, what better way to ring in Pride Month than by writing about the Bees?

So the way this came about was that I was SO disappointed by how RWBY never had a scene in which Yang and Blake talked about the events that happened at Beacon and of the aftermath that followed. I had hoped so much that Vol.6 would give me something, anything, regarding these two talking about Blake leaving Yang and the pain that caused her and I got jack. Nothing. Not even a passing mention outside of the beginning. Needless to say, I was annoyed, especially since the angst of that situation was part of what drew me to shipping the Bees in the first place! Like, CRWBY had the opportunity to have these two struggle with this massive bump in their relationship and eventually reconcile with each other and they MISSED it! Thankfully, that's what fanfics are for.

This was actually tough to write. What I wanted for this fic was to acknowledge that Blake wasn't wrong for leaving Yang and she had perfectly valid reasons for doing so but to also acknowledge Yang's pain at that and how she was completely within her right to be upset with Blake for leaving her. I wanted to show the nuance this kind of situation has and how both girls aren't wrong to feel how they did. Whether or not I did a good job at that is up to the people who read this.

I also added some things in here, like Yang and Blake having an argument at the Brunswick farm that ended with the former telling the latter something along the lines of "leaving is the only thing you're good at". I needed something that would get these two together initially and I saw the opportunity to throw in even more angst so I figured why not?

Last thing is that this fic was beta'd by my good friend, whose name I shall not say in this. I normally credit them but due to the fact I have my disclaimer at the top of this and I'm paranoid about the "fans" harassing them because of their association with me, I'm choosing to keep them anonymous (with their permission, of course). Thank you for your work, beta reader!

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Quiet.

The room was so quiet. Yang could almost hear a pin drop. After the bombshell that was dropped on everyone only an hour ago, it had been unanimously decided that they all would take some time off to think. Yang had chosen to go upstairs and head into one of the spare rooms the Cotta-Arcs had. There were unopened boxes and furniture strewn about everywhere but it suited her needs just fine.

Honestly, even after all this time, she still couldn’t quite believe it. Salem, the witch responsible for the attack on Beacon and mother to the Grimm, was immortal? And she couldn’t be destroyed?

The knowledge of that truth drove her to despair. It made her question everything she had done to get to this point. Defending Haven, fighting her mother, taking the Relic; was it all just meaningless? Did trying to stop Salem even matter anymore if she couldn’t even die? Would it be better to just…give up? Accept that nothing she did would change anything and resign herself to her fate?

Gods, what were they going to do?

Soft knocking shattered the silence. Yang turned her head to look at the door, wondering who it could be. A second or two passed before there were more knocks, followed by a voice.

“Yang, are you in there? It’s me.”

Panic mixed with a dash of guilt ripped through her.

What could she want?

The last time they had talked to each other was back at the farm, that hadn’t ended well between them. All it took was one misstep for an argument to ensue and the other girl to walk out in a huff. Yang wanted to apologize to her for it once she’d calmed down enough yet the Apathy had made it so that she couldn’t find it within herself to care. Since then, the two girls avoided being alone together wherever they could.

But they obviously couldn’t do that forever. If their relationship had a shot in hell of going back to what it once was, they needed to get over this. So, with that, Yang pulled open the door.

Blake stood on the other side with an expression of surprise on her face. Their eyes met for a second before Blake averted her gaze, her ears drooping ever so slightly. Yang hated to see her act so meek and timid around her, though she could understand the reason why. There were still so many unsaid things between them.

But perhaps today would be a step in the right direction.

“Hey, I uh, I just wanted to come check in on you and see how you were doing,” Blake said, folding her arms. “Things got pretty crazy downstairs, so…”

“Yeah, they did.” Yang forced out a laugh. “But I’m…hanging in there, I guess.”

“That’s good.”

“Yeah… How about you? Are you doing okay?”

“Oh, uh, yeah. I’m…okay as I can be, given the circumstances.”

“Good! Good, that’s---that’s good… Do you, uh…” Yang started, rubbing the back of her neck, “wanna come in? So we can talk?”

Blake’s ears perked up as she replied with, “Oh! Uh, s-sure!”

She walked past Yang into the empty room with slow, careful strides. Yang’s heart pounded in her ears as she closed the door. Psyching herself up, she turned around to face Blake---

“Yang, I’m sorry.”

Wait, what?

“I’m sorry about what I said back at the farm. It was stupid and wrong of me to even imply that you couldn’t take care of yourself and…yeah…I’m sorry.”

Why was she the one apologizing? Wasn’t Yang the one who blew up at her? The one who hurt her? This wasn’t right.

“No, I should be the one saying sorry, okay? Yes, I was angry and upset over what you said but that’s not an excuse to then fire back at you, all right? I should’ve just kept my mouth shut and walked away.”

“Well--” Blake’s lips curled up into a tight smile-- “I think I deserved it. After all, I am pretty good at running away from my problems.”

The brittle laugh she gave did little to ease Yang’s guilt. It was hard enough knowing she’d hurt her with such a low blow, but hearing Blake basically agree with the sentiment just stung. Was it really possible for them to fix their relationship or were they destined to only harm each other even now?

Then the smile vanished, leaving behind a frown as Blake continued on. “Still, I should’ve been more careful with my words, so I’m sorry. Truly.”

“Listen, we both…said things we didn’t mean. Things we wish we could take back but can’t. No amount of apologizing is going to change that so…” She took a tentative step towards her. “I’d say we’re even.”

“Even. Right...”

Blake’s eyes fell to the floor as her ears folded downward. It didn’t take a genius to figure out what she meant by that. Sure, they were even in this situation but in the grand scheme of things? There may as well be a chasm as wide as the whole of Mistral standing between them. Yang would find this to be inappropriately comical if if weren’t so fucking tragic…

“You know,” Blake began, peering up at her, “with how everything is right now, I think now’s a good time as any to have a talk…wouldn’t you say?”

She didn’t know which was worse. Realizing she might die by Salem’s hand or facing the emotions she’d been burying deep down since Blake’s return? Frankly, the former sounded way more appealing to her than the latter. But this may finally be her chance to get some concrete answers, an opportunity for them to close a fraction of the distance separating them.

This was what she’d wanted for so long. Why was she hesitating?

Taking a deep breath in to settle her nerves, Yang replied with, “Yeah, let’s…let’s talk.”

Using chairs they found spread out around the room, they sat facing one another, gazes locked. Time passed as both girls waited for the other to speak up and break the silence between them. Yang, in particular, wasn’t keen on going first, mainly because she couldn’t guarantee she’d remain calm throughout. She didn’t trust herself to not lose her temper as she remembered the months following Blake’s departure and the pain she’d felt during them.

But she had to keep it reigned in no matter what. Weiss might’ve actually been right that Blake had a good reason to leave them all in the dark. Maybe she felt guilty over what happened, or maybe she blamed herself for it. Whatever it was, Yang needed to meet her halfway, to create a safe environment for her to voice her feelings without the fear of judgment.

Anything to ensure Blake didn’t leave her again.

“I guess I should start from the beginning.” Blake folded her hands neatly in her lap. “The reason why I left. Well, actually, there are two reasons.”

With a deep breath in, she said, “The first was that I needed a break. A break where I didn’t have to think about the Grimm or Adam or anything else that happened that awful night, so I took the first ship out of Vale and went back home to Menagerie. It was the first time my parents and I had seen each other in years and I thought they would be mad at me for leaving them but…They just welcomed me back with open arms, and I’ve never been happier.”

“Was your trip good?” Yang asked, catching the small smile across her face.

“Yeah, it was. It allowed me to get my head back on straight and I was able to relax, at least for a little bit. It was good--” her mouth formed a thin line as her ears drooped-- “until it wasn’t.”

Nothing more needed to be said. Blake hadn’t gone into detail over everything that transpired before her arrival in Haven but it was enough for Yang to understand it had been pretty rocky. She was almost beginning to wonder if she had somehow gotten lucky in having to overcome her inner demons before setting out on her journey. Compared to the rest of their team, she had it easy.

“The other reason was…him. Adam. We fought, he overpowered me, and…” She closed her eyes, seemingly willing herself to stay calm as one of her hands moved up to where her scar was. “He threatened to destroy everything I loved as punishment for me leaving him. I knew how powerful he was, I’d seen it with my own eyes, so I knew he wasn’t bluffing. Then he heard you looking for me and…well, you pretty much know the rest.”

The scene from that night was forever seared into Yang’s mind. The instant she saw that bastard pull his sword out from Blake’s body she wanted to tear him limb from bloody limb. It was with reckless abandon she rushed in to save her and it cost her an arm and almost nearly her life. Everything afterwards had been a blur but she couldn’t forget what he had taken from her even if she tried.

“I thought you’d all be better off without me. I didn’t wanna risk Adam coming after any of you to get to me, especially you, Yang. It’s my fault you ended up getting hurt and I don’t know if I can ever forgive myself for that.” Blake’s gaze landed on her prosthetic. “I know I shouldn’t have left you like that, I know, but it was the only thing I could think of to keep you safe. Believe me when I say that no amount of words will ever be enough to express how sorry I am for hurting you.”

Tears slid down her cheeks before she hastily dried her eyes. Yang wanted nothing more than to comfort her in that moment, letting the things she said chip away at the walls she’d built around her heart. It didn’t erase the months of grief she endured but damn, it was a good start.

Clearing her throat, Blake continued. “Anyway, it was during my time back home I realized I couldn’t run away from my problems forever. I had to face them and stop blaming myself for things that were out of my control. I needed to stop being a coward.” She met Yang’s gaze. “I’m not running anymore. Not from this or from Ruby or Weiss or you. You’re all too important for me to risk losing again.

“I swear--” she placed a hand on her chest as if making a solemn vow-- “I’ll earn back your trust and your forgiveness, no matter how much time it takes.”

She spoke with such resolve in her voice, it made it almost impossible for Yang to not believe her. She’d had people apologize to her before for leaving her and that was usually the end of it. Never once did they promise to earn back her trust and forgiveness, as if they were worth it. As if she was worth it. It was strange.

Different.

Yet…nice, all the same.

Scooting her chair up a bit closer, she asked, “Can I say something?”

“Yes, of course, go ahead,” Blake replied.

“I won’t lie to you, I was…angry when I found out you left. Pissed off. I thought that, after everything we went through together, you’d be there for me. But you weren’t. You had just…vanished. Disappeared without a trace. It hurt, Blake. Hurt more than losing my arm did. It---It felt like a betrayal.”

Memories of that time floated up to the surface. The moments she’d throw books across her room in a fit of fiery rage because they reminded her of Blake. The days she’d turn on the TV and see news updates about the White Fang, wondering if Blake was okay out there. The nights she’d dream of Blake, whether they were of the both of them together at Beacon or of her dead at Adam’s feet. It was truly a wonder how she got through those months without losing her mind.

“I spent all that time thinking about you and wondering what I’d say to you if I ever saw you again. I wanted to curse you out, hurt you like you’d hurt me. I even had a list in my head of all the things I wanted to call you. I had it all planned.” Then she scoffed. “And it all flew out the window the moment you showed up at Haven.”

“What stopped you?” Blake asked.

“Don’t get me wrong, I was still angry and upset at you. But…seeing you there, hearing you call my name, it…it made me want to hug you and never let you go. I think I would’ve done it if we didn’t have more pressing issues at hand.”

“Yang…”

“Still, even then, I couldn’t believe it. I didn’t want to believe you actually came back for us. I was scared, scared of getting close to you, only for you to leave again. So I kept my distance. With each day that passed, I kept expecting you to be gone. That’s why I kept putting this--” she gestured at the space between them-- “off because I wanted to just get used to you just being around again. However, I…I believe you when you say you’re not running anymore.”

She tentatively put a hand on Blake’s knee, watching her intently for any sign of discomfort. She didn’t dare take it a step further, lest she scare her off with how forward she was being. The ghost of a smile appeared on Blake’s face as she placed her own hand down just before Yang’s. The way they imperceptibly inched towards each other wasn’t lost on her and it prompted her to continue talking.

“I’m not mad at you for doing what you needed to do. Do I wish that you had told me? Yes! But…I get why you didn’t. I also don’t blame you for what happened to me. It wasn’t your fault. I would’ve done that for Weiss or Ruby if they were in your position so please…stop tormenting yourself with the what-ifs.” Yang brushed her fingers along the side of Blake’s face in an attempt to soothe her. “I really…care a lot about you and I don’t want you to feel like you have to stay with me. You should stay because you want to stay, not out of any obligation you feel like you have.

“If you need some time to yourself, just tell me or anyone else here and we’ll give you it. Just don’t leave us in the dark again, okay?” She gently took hold of Blake’s hand in her own, feeling her skin against hers. “The least we can do is welcome you back with open arms.”

They exchanged smiles, though Yang could see a hint of red dusting across the other’s cheeks. The sight of it brought forth a sense of warmth deep within her, a smoldering kind of feeling that coursed through her body.

Thumb stroking over her knuckles, Yang spoke softly, “I also wanted to apologize for how I treated you back at Beacon. Shoving you against a desk, making those stupid jokes at your expense, it was wrong and I shouldn’t have done that.”

“Yang, it’s all right, I know you weren’t---”

“No, it’s not.” She grabbed Blake’s other hand and held it. “Getting physical with you, annoying you with that laser pointer, it wasn’t right. Ignorance doesn’t excuse the fact I still hurt you. That’s why, although I can’t make any promises, I’ll be more conscious in how I speak and act around you.” Her grip tightened. “I don’t want to be like him.”

Blake’s eyes peered into hers. “I know you aren’t.”

Hardly a second passed before Blake drew Yang into a hug, her arms wrapped tight around her. She buried her face in the crook of Blake’s neck, breathing her in. She smelled of flowers and salt and the essence of twilight. It reminded Yang of home and it made her want to bring Blake there once things had settled down enough.

“You’re not like Adam,” Blake murmured, her fingers gripping onto Yang’s shoulders, “you’re better than him.”

With a hand on the back of her head, she simply answered, “I’ll keep trying to be. And I already forgave you a long time ago.”

They pulled away a moment later, bumping their foreheads together with a subdued red blooming across their faces. Violet and gold shared tender looks at each other as their hands laid entwined between them and their knees barely touched. They stayed like that for what seemed like forever, letting time fly past them just so they could indulge in the luminous joy this brought them.

It was strange. The world seemed like it was heading towards total destruction due to Salem’s machinations and the only hope it had of being saved rested on the shoulders of Hunters-in-training. She didn’t know what the hell they were going to do but she felt…hopeful. It was a feeling she hadn’t felt since before she left home to search for Ruby.

Maybe there was a chance they could all get out of this alive.

Now was the perfect opportunity to gather everyone up. There’d been more than enough time for them to kick their minds into gear so they needed to try and figure out a game plan. Yang wasn’t going to go down without a fight.

So she and Blake went off to find Ruby.

Together.

#airi's writing #Bumbleby #Yang Xiao Long #Blake Belladonna #Fanfiction #RWBY #Canon Divergence

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