#the lannisters

[cardvngreenbriar]

GAME OF THRONES ── season 3, episode 8.

#gotedit #gameofthronesedit #asoiafedit #tvedit #tywin lannister #tyrion lannister #the lannisters #game of thrones #got #userjoelle #userbecca #useramily #tusererika #tuseremilia #* #*gif

[horizon-verizon]

Maybe this Will Put Things into Perspective about Rhaenyra & Cersei's Kids Being Bastards or Not...

Feudalism is an early period or a economic phase of a millennia-managed con against anyone who isn't a noble man, and most men are the active conmen.

Neither set of kids were ever declared bastards. Nor were they ever or "acknowledged" as bastards, because noblemen "acknowledge" a child they father onto another woman. noblewomen, in theory, can, but if their having had sex premaritally/extramaritally isn't already known outside of the household they do not. Because to do without it already being known (like with Alys Turnberry) would publicly ruin her prospects for marriage in the future, ruin her reputation, and likely muddy the family's as well.

Robert probably would have removed those kids from the line of succession had he known (and he didn't) if not outight remove them from the mortal coil. But instead, he got gutted. Therefore, Cersei's kids are not officially or "legally" bastards. That prior declaration is what is required to have them "legally" known as bastards.

Bastardry has always been more of a legal question in its nature than a biological fact of nature. Of course, we the audience and most of ther know that Rhaenyra's kids aren't Laenor's biologically; Ned correctly deduced that Cersei's weren't Robert's biologically. However, he was never able to get his information to matter "legally", or to get it to Robert to make a decision on. Whereas Laenor, Corlys, Viserys all knew and decided to maintain the boys as their heirs. And they made this decision based on the lack of knowledge the public has/what they can control. Which is often what any noble does; once again, GRRM has explicitly stated that the lords of Westeros often take advantage to twist "laws" (customs) according to the circumstances around them & their own desires, and it's is not exclusive to bastards already "acknowledged".

The purpose of marriage as an institution is entirely for the lord/nobleman's benefit. It is an institution that was created and developed entirely for a man's political interests (a father's, a brother's, a husband's, a son's, etc.). And it was made to consolidate/monopolize the noble woman's (or really any woman) body and reproductive labor so as to produce living products to pass on the resources/titles mainly the lord and his ancestors have aggregated. To try to make sure those resources are passed to the people the lord wants passed own to, the sexual purity culture imposed on women and girls works to construct shame & suppress female extramarital and premarital sexual activity, which is an aspect of her overall agency. Her agency is re-confined/socially reduced to her sexual activity because she has no other primary function nor legal privileges aside form being a wife, mother, daughter, virgin, etc. Or sometimes the protectoress of her husband's/son's assets: the castle at times of war/siege when the lord is not present; director of his household's activities and servants by being its head overseer of accounts. Therefore, the lord is literally claiming his wife as his effective property through her womb & this is often why when we see women like Daena sleeping with a man not her husband, it is an act of reinforcing her authority or political agency in spite of how she was raised to see her own body.

Think about it: why do we not have a world or society (fictional or not) where even though the wife births a child not her husband's the husband's do not willfully or are "legally" compelled to adopt that child as their own, effectively de-fathering the biological father? Because men want to feel as if they have as close to total ownership over female companionship and labor so they consolidate power to themselves and not to women. Having all these designations of gender and "bastardry" that everyone are compelled to follow makes that easier without expending energy or sharing power. Medieval customs put the social-legal identification of "bastard" from the institution of marriage, its compulsions on women, and their reproductive labor/bodies/uteruses being claimed by the men who are "licensed" to own them. Which is why when we say that neither Cersei's nor Rhaenyra's kids are "bastards" it is true, because the purpose of bastardry is to attempt to reclaim the product of reproductive labor and Viserys/Corlys/Laenor/Robert have already done that. To protest about how Robert didn't know about his kids not being his kids is really to protest how he didn't not get the products of Cersei's reproductive labor in the usual male-prioritized business of objectifying female labor that is intrinsic in this feudal society. Whereas Viserys/Laenor/Corlys accepted the products of Rhaenyra's reproductive labor.

All this is also why I really don't care for the impassioned argument of these women were being "unfair" to the system (Rhaenyra) or to their husbands, fathers etc. (Cersei) or them being "liars" or "destructive". Feudalism is itself an objectifying, unfair, unequal system. It is designed to benefit men and mainly men inherently, and directly at the expense of women who risk death itself while a man fathering any sort of kid never risks death. Men lie and destroy the women who birth their children, manage their household, protect their castle, rear their children....and it is all "licensed" and justified under the constructed institutions of marriage, oath-making, knighthood and principles of chastity, virginity, the different sub-meanings of "honor" for men vs women, etc. Men are themselves already objectifying or making an exclusive economic use of their female counterparts as well as going back on their vows (a deal that is still in feudal marriages, even for men) through their socially-allowed extramarital and premarital affairs producing bastards.

#westerosi bastards #cersei lannister #rhaenyra targaryen #the velaryon boys #the lannisters #the targaryens #westerosi feudalism #fedualism #asoiaf characterization #jacaerys velaryon #joffrey velaryon #lucerys velaryon #joffrey baratheon #tommen baratheon #myrcella baratheon #westerosi society

[spacephobos]

i love thematically rich sibling dynamics

#saw a meta post about the lannisters especially these two #and i momentarily went feral #cersei lannister #tyrion lannister #a song of ice and fire #asoiaf #fanart #art #digital art #the lannisters #my art

[buckyhoney]

im tired of hiding my truth.

tywin lannister is hot.

I KNOW HES A HORRIBLE PERSON BUT HES SEXY IM SORRY ITS THE DEEP VOICE AND THE AMOUR THE WAY HE COMMANDS A ROOM IM SORRY YOU KNOW WHAT THE WHOLE LANNISTER FAMILY THEY’RE ALL HOT ESPECIALLY JAMIE FUCK

#the lannisters #game of thrones #tywin lannister #jamie lannister

[samstigmata]

ppl who like jaime but hate cersei are the weakest links

#honestly just pure sexism #he raped her over their dead sons corpse but no she’s the one at fault for their entire relationship #UGH #cersei lannister #jaime lannister #the lannisters #got #game of thrones #also ppl who hate shae.

[witchofvalyria]

Why do you think Willas Tyrell is unmarried, he's very old by Westorosi standards no?

There are plenty of reasons that we can speculate about why Willas is still an unmarried man.

Some can claim that it's because of his grandmother Olenna ( she likely played a part, and will play a big one in choosing who the next lady of Highgarden will be). In contrast, some claim that it's because of his disability (not really true, while he's a cripple by Westerosi standards, he's no imp/paralyzed man) he can sire kids and is still heir to the most prosperous kingdom.

The Tyrells are an ambitious lot, they're aiming high, they want to make powerful alliances with influential people, and there aren't that many suitable ladies, of marriage age that suit the area currently in the books, there was Sansa, and we know how that mess turned out, there was also Arianne, and Myrcella (pre-incest reveal) and we should also bear in mind that the Tyrells have plenty of cousins and that Willas has two brothers, one who is already married.

I think GRRM chose for Willas to remain unmarried to give Sansa hope about escaping the Lannisters, he did say he'll play an essential role in the next book, so I'm crossing my hands to get a pov chapter of his.

#willas tyrell #the tyrells #house tyrell #a song of ice and fire #westeros #sansa stark #garlan tyrell #olenna redwyne #olenna tyrell #lady olenna #mace tyrell #Alerie Hightower #margaery tyrell #queen margaery #the lannisters #arianne martell #myrcella lannister

[tvsandmovies]

I love the most hated characters for no reason in the show ❤

Cause I love interesting characters.

#the fandom is hypocrite and toxic #hotd #house of the dragon #hbo #got #game of thrones #alicent hightower #queen alicent #ser criston cole #criston cole #larys strong #Lord petyr baelish #little finger #tywin lannister #the lannisters

[shotbyshe]

siblings | the lannisters

#game of thrones #new york #nyc #manhattan #hbo #lannister #cersei lannister #cersei #jaime lannister #tyrion lannister #the lannisters #siblings #golden hand #costumes

[jonquilete]

it makes so much more sense if cersei and jaime killed jon arryn rather than littlefinger. i always had the thought of „why“. why would littlefinger do this NOW and not before!!!! that’s why i wish george made some things more simpler but that it makes sense and isn’t this great conspiracy. how will these books ever be finished phew

#the lannisters #jon arryn #littlefinger

[quixoticclown]

Yes, these Muppets have taken Manhattan. The question now is can they HOLD it

#tywin lannister #asoif/got #asoiaf #game of thrones #lannister #westeros #the muppets #muppets #muppets take manhattan #the muppets take manhattan #kermit #gonzo #fozzie bear #miss piggy #a song of ice and fire #a song of ice and feels #house lannister #storm of swords

[mahgck]

#savers #og post was about jaime lannister. if you even care.

[horizon-verizon]

Rohanne Webber’s backstory is so horrifying, she was wedded at 12, wedded again to a 54-year-old man and bedded at 13, gave birth to her first child at 13, who was weak and died within three days. Precise ages for her successive marriages are unknown, but she was married five times before age 25. 

For those who don't know, she is Tywin Lannister's grandmother, who married Gerold Lannister. They are the parents of Tytos Lannister. Before Gerold, she had already married 5 men, thus a widow 5 times. Fucking insane that she had already been married 5 times before 25, and even survived all that childbirth before having 4 kids w/Gerold. (She also fell in love with Dunk/Ser Duncan the Tall, who reciprocated but they never got to really be together.)

This is what happens when women do not have their own political, autonomous power and role from birth.

#rohanne webber #asoiaf asks to me #asoiaf #a song of ice and fire #awoiaf #a world of ice and fire #awoiaf characterization #awoiaf characters #the lannisters

[spacephobos]

two twins in a tower they might- wait no.... stop that!

#just gonna draw asoiaf fanart til i am forcefully accepted in the fandom #cersei lannister #jaime lannister #the lannisters #asoiaf #fanart #a song of ice and fire

[coyoxxtl]

nightmare blunt rotation

#txt #for all you fags who are asking where preminger is. i left him out on purpose. now shut up. #people who suggest dio and jaime lannister can stay

[kudriaken]

House Lannister. My fanart series for the Great Houses from the ASOIAF. I wanted to make this for the longest time.

#artists on tumblr #illustrators on tumblr #fantasy art #fanart #digital artist #character design #illustration #asoif/got #asoif fanart #asoiaf #game of thrones #house lannister #cersei lannister #jaime lannister #tyrion lannister #myrcella baratheon #joffrey baratheon #tommen baratheon #tywin lannister #lancel lannister

[elainiisms]

you ppl love villains/morally grey characters UNTIL they're a woman, then all of a sudden they are annoying, evil and irredeemable

#like just say u let men get away with anything bc u want to fuck them #alicent hightower #daenerys targaryen #azula #cersei lannister #sansa stark #shiv roy #grace blackthorn #fang runin #nesta archeron #shauna shipman #camilla macaulay #catra #zoya nazyalensky #carmilla #jude duarte #jinx #bellatrix black #narcissa black #morgana pendragon #elainposting