#the red and blue discourse

[yrsonpurpose]

RED, WHITE & ROYAL BLUE (2023) book → screen (x)

#rwrb #rwrbedit #red white and royal blue #alex claremont diaz #henry fox mountchristen windsor #firstprince #usersteen #usernuria #uservik #usermaloune #chrissiewatts #userveronika #mine* #dont look at me this start off as...something #anyway the comparison discourse is Old so im not trying to start it again #HOWEVER its so nice to see how some things adapted and translated to screen #some times for the better #i needed to have taylor say then fucking have me so badly GODDDD

[k3ithsk0gane]

PSA:

With RWRB being a well loved and well known book and people actively watching the movie right now I think it should be said that if you didn’t like the film or didn’t like parts of the film that doesn’t give you ANY right to shit on someone who loved and adored this film and thought it was the best book to movie adaptation ever.

LET PEOPLE ENJOY WHAT THEY ENJOY

#if I start seeing discourse I’m gonna be SO upset #bc yes it wasn’t exactly the book BUT IF U WENT INTO THE MOVIE EXPECTING THAT ITS ON U #it was beautiful #and heartwarming #and I can’t wait to watch it again and again #red white and royal blue movie #rwrb movie #rwrb #red white and royal blue #alex claremont diaz #henry fox mountchristen windsor #firstprince #nicholas galitzine #taylor zakhar perez

[howtotrainyourrei]

a redraw of a rwrb scene but its james and reggie!!!

#i like this a lot but idk something feels off to me?? #theres literally no distinguishing characteristics for either james or reg but its them trust me bro #ALSO I DONT CARE ABOUT THE DISCOURSE RWRB IS SUCH A GOOD MOVIE #IF YOU HAVENT SEEN IT GO WATCH IT RN #red white and royal blue #rwrb #rwrb fanart #idk if this counts as rwrb fanart since its mostly marauders but wtv #regulus black #james potter #regulus black fanart #james potter fanart #marauders fanart #jegulus #jegulus fanart #marauders #my art #if you saw me post this before no you didnt #i forgot to add my little watermark

[qtubbo]

Just want to say Tina is the best ever and just because she’s not hard focusing pvp doesn’t make her less useful for the team, infact it actually betters the team. SHE IS A CO-LEADER and don’t you forget it.

#I saw red team fans giving “constructive criticsm” on how blue and green could win #Which boiled down to we think you aren’t good cool friends like our guys and Tina should be doing more in combat #Shes just not communicating enough <- constantly checking in with people knows where everyone is at all times #qsmp #I wouldn’t consider this discourse #But just incase #discourse

[moomoorare]

Need I remind everyone Purgatory is done and it was just a game, for FUN!!!!! Same will be for purgatory 2!!! I understand having bias and favorite teams but do not in any case bring down others because yours is too special or whatever, they were all the same, they were all trapped in there with tensions high and did things they normally wouldn't, the characters acted accordingly to their lore, it's okay to be upset at some decisions made but god don't make it a state affair. It was just Block game rp alroiughtt

#all the vitriol for bluefire and bolas is like insane dude #they were different teams who had different game play #like they all did things differently #blue to win red to not fall in despair and green because they were green and gay and ninjas #all im saying is . #yes bolas was upset with qbad (said specifically about the character bc they did clarified a bunch) for spawncamping jaiden and charlie #and cellbit was absolutely bloodthirsty #so were many others #like okay so they were all wrong or meither were and even if theyre wrong girl. its a mc roleplay with much more upsetting elements #its not a church play stop treating it as such #like even after a month i keep seeing discourse about it #girl be like elsa and let it go #and maybe try seeing the good side of things. they're back. the eggs are back. no relationships or friendships have been tarnished more they #already were at that point #many things and interaction have changed. but for the better #so gooooood idk appreciate it??? #or not idc but let it go #qsmp purgatory #rare rambling

[postilikes]

About the RWRB movie:

I have seen, again, someone saying " they made a mistake, Alex makes his speech and THEN the king meets with Henry to deny the press"

I've seen a version of this way too many times.

It's not a mistake.

The leak happens, the press prints it/people talk about it, neither the White House nor Buckingham palace make a comment.

They're both regrouping (separately) to discuss how to handle it (as you do).

Buckingham Palace is known for, in most cases, waiting on things to calm down and act like nothing happened. They're clearly at a loss on how to proceed.

Alex makes his speech because, fuck it, he loves this man. And the situation is not ideal, it's actually really fucked up. His mother, the White House, his political party are being hounded. HE is being hounded, his most personal thoughts and business are out for everyone to read. But he's going to take back their power and their narrative, and he is going to start on their plan to make some history because he isn't about to let anyone shame them and their love.

Now he's in Buckingham Palace with Henry and the King speaks to them.

The King explains (quite clearly) how nations have always lied about other nations to gain power over them whether it be during warfare, economically or politically. That Great Britain itself has used it in the past, and that IF it's what's happening right now he will denounce and deny it (he knows it's all true)

Meaning the Crown is ready to go public and say the White House are lying liers who lie. The leak? The speech? All orchestrated to smear the Royal family in order to GAIN something (what thing, who knows, they'd find anything to back it up) or to undermine them.

The Crown is ready to hurt (or kill) their alliance with one of the most powerful nations in the world just to keep up appearances.

That's how far they'd go.

That's what he's proposing.

That's why this scene is there.

The king isn't talking about denying the press. He's talking about denying the White House.

#firstprince #rwrb #meta #discourse #Henry fox #alex and henry #alex claremont diaz #henry fox mountchristen windsor #nicholas galitzine #taylor zakhar perez #speech #red white and royal blue #no but seriously #how is it not clear for everyone #the crown can and will be ruthless #common

[youphoriaot7]

okay, the differences in communication between red and green/blue have never been more evident to me than they are right now.

red: phil + foolish are both on. green: fit, mouse, and forever are all on. blue: tubbo + pac are both on.

i have fit, pac, and foolish's streams up. i have both fit and pac unmuted.

pac has been farming by himself in near silence for, like, the past ten minutes, only stopping to thank subs and mention how much he misses morning crew and talk with chat a bit. fit has been caving for the past twenty minutes, only communicating with forever via whispers and talking with his chat. i see foolish on the bottom screen and went "hm. i wonder."

i unmute his stream? sure enough, he and phil are in vc. i know damn well they are on complete opposite sides of the map, but they're still talking.

i guess this is what maining bolas does to me, because this is so confusing to me KSJFGKSFJ. i've been listening to constant chaos for four days, and it is really weird to not have the constant communication. skjgfskg

#as i type this i see green grouping up—so my point isn't that they NEVER do it; not at all!! #just that i was really surprised that they don't have a more consistent line of communication? #and i don't really consider this discourse? because it's just an observation i have? #but i know some people might not want to see it so i'm not going to main tag it <3 #ev;purgatory #qsmp green team #qsmp red team #qsmp blue team

[that-dumbass-rabbit]

#poll #poll time #tumblr polls #my polls #polls #random polls #colors #math #mathematics #red #blue #discourse #color associations

[peetaparkker]

people saying this is the last instagram post from henry & alex nooooo feeling dead inside

#please #i don’t want the rwrb discourse to end #ANNOUNCE THE SEQUEL #MATTHEW DO SOMETHING!!!!!! #rwrb #red white and royal blue #rwrb movie

[mademoiselle-cookie]

The Green lost

And I have mixed feelings about it.

1. First, good.

In-universe, bc having the good guys teams being eliminated first is so bittersweet and I love this shit. No one is free of sin, everyone did something wrong and fucked-up at some point, but each team has its thing : the Red are the crazy one, the Blue the bad guy one and the Green are the kind one. It's the group who's leader has forbidden to burn stuff bc it's not nice, who chose to help a team even after they destroy their stuff in the most cowardly and spiteful way, who still had principles in this nightmare of an island. They had really strong members with exp in this kind of situations. And they lost. Wonderful.

Out-of-universe, bc whatever shit the admins have in mind, the player can leave now. Etoiles was starting to get tired of Minecraft and it was taking up a lot of his time. Taking a week's break and getting away from the drama will be good for the team (especially Bagi, poor girl got harassed a lot. I love you Bagi)

2. Wasted potential.

If the event was really for pvp, and the team members had been able to be present earlier, the Greens would have been the strongest. And now we will never have the opportunity to see the full extent of their strength and talent.

BUT ABOVE ALL, their team dynamic. The players weren't that used to playing together, so it was an opportunity to see them exchange more, create or explore their relationships more… The creation of a found family is super interesting!

Seeing the friendship between Roier and Etoiles, two fighters who absolutely want to fight but still have honor (what an idea to put them in the same team) with the added dynamic of a knight and his leader to protect (Mario and Peach lol), Forever very intelligent and strategist who calls himself the mother of the team, Elquackity the traitor who did not show his true potential (except when he voluntarily gave victory to the Red on the 2nd day), Ironmouse who had a very touching and interesting moment with Etoiles about their chronic illness… is something I wanted to see develop. And it will never happened.

3. It was a foregone conclusion.

The competition with the punishment of being eliminated for the loser was announced a few hours before said competition. The day when many Green players are normally not there, where the leader and strongest and most present member on the server had another more important event at the same time. You're not going to make me believe that any of the admins didn't know that this tournament existed, or that Etoiles, a Smash player, would ignore it despite its great importance. The competition could have taken place on Saturday instead of shutting down the server, or it could have been closed for another day, or the admins could have warned the players that something important would happen on Sunday so they could have tried to work something out.

I ask everyone watching Green's POV, did you even have hope that they would win? Well not me. I love them, I think they're the best, but I had no illusions. They were going to lose. The tie was impossible, the event would have been pointless otherwise, and the victory too because the clues indicate very clearly that the Blue are the cursed team. The Greens could not, and should not, win.

It sucks to be a Green Team fan.

4. I'm afraid of what's next.

I'm hoping for two scenarios now that the Greens have been "terminated":

They die and players can do other things until the end of the event. That would be great but unlikely. QSMP is not going to exclude several of its players like that, that would be unfair. There aren't that many of them already.

The Greens are sent elsewhere. That would be giga top. This would promise interesting and different content (and perhaps allow players who want blood to obtain satisfaction) in addition to making the threat of Purgatory credible. The players are inaccessible to others - even considered dead - and must suffer because of some thing that the eye has invented.

See my vision: Cellbit mourning his dead husband, while Roier is having the time of his life in whatever hell the Eye send the Green. That will be so perfect.

But that would require a lot of preparation, while the admins are not even sure that the players will stay or that they will like these new changes.

What I really don't want to happen but is very, very likely:

The Greens are redistributed among the other teams. Lost their new team dynamic, lost everything they had started to create, they now have to adapt to a new group, who were once their enemies and who have at one time or another done a nasty deed to them, and fght their former comrades. They will also have to obey a new leader whom they did not elect. You can think what you want about Etoiles but he was chosen, and him as leader allowed a certain dynamic that would not be possible with other people and another leader. And that would ruin the danger and credibility of Purgatory which threatens people's lives and then leaves them alive and in the company of their friends.

Worse, Etoiles ends up on the Red team. First, I want to see them lose (which should happen anyway since they're not the cursed team), and also because I don't trust the Red fanbase with Etoiles at all. Not even with an anti-atomic suit. There's a reason I hate Bolas, and it's not the cc's fault. (One day we'll have to talk about using a character played by an Algerian to be a literal white man's dog)

#can you imagine blue and red teams mourning their dead friends #lost to a nighmarish island who forces them to kill each other #while at the same time Roier and Etoiles are decapitating enemies while singing Disney songs #while the rest are drinking tea prepared by Forever #qsmp #qsmp purgatory #salt #discourse #qsmp etoiles #qsmp roier #qsmp cellbit #green gay ninjas

[val-library]

Is my assumption on this correct?

I’m struggling to fit an ‘actual’ orange anywhere. And though there are red/green ships I either don’t know where to put them (don’t think they are like their own big category, more in the way pink/green is), besides most of the time while the characters might be red & green the ship dynamic itself can be put in one of these 3 major categories)

Source is “the vibe”. So that’s why I’d like to get others opinion and thought on this too!

Also would like to exchange thoughts on the poly one :)

#fandom #shipping discourse #shipping tropes #tropes #red and blue #character tropes #skk #satosugu #klance #fanfiction #ship dynamics #anime and manga #beefleaf #marvel mcu #mxtx novels #catradora #wanxian #ouat fandom #arcane #svsss #harry potter fandom

[soups-archive]

Thoughts on Purgatory Day 4:

God what a fun day, and yet funnily enough a much more relaxed one.

It's gonna be interesting to see what the ramifications of blue's logout strat are gonna be because it's definitely going to be banned, but, from my understanding, blue used this strat to prove a point: that red's strategy was unfair.

Which is true, or at least I think it was true.

Personally, I feel like it was mostly unfair due to how difficult it used to be to get to global, but I feel like the admins have pretty fairly counteracted that and balanced things with today's introduction of the spawn portals.

Because with red's strat players HAD to physically travel to global and turn in the contracts within at least the last 30 minutes of gameplay. The portals now easily allow other teams to show up and at least put up a good fight, and we actually got to see how effective they are today with cellbit and charlie's assist they pulled for roier. If they had been just slightly quicker, green might've been able to steal back the win.

Which I think brings me to the other potentially unfair part of red's strat that I've seen be brought up which is that it isn't fair for streamers in European timezones/streamers who play earlier. Which is a fair criticism, but honestly I haven't personally been able to think of a way for the admins to balance the contracts around that without either: A) completely changing how contracts work, or B) unfairly punishing later streamers.

I think it's complicated, and I feel like the main thing that's gonna result from today isn't going to be them banning turning in tasks late but instead banning logging out right in front of the global NPCs. Knowing the admins, they'll probably figure out something I hadn't thought of and make the whole thing more fair for everyone.

Competition and lore wise, tomorrow is gonna be really interesting as well. A small alliance might be blooming between red and green and that might have massive ramifications going forward. That and I think (???????) that players might be getting their eggs tomorrow (?????). I know they described a period in which they had to keep them alive and the actual event ends on the 10th so I'm guessing they're arriving tomorrow. If they are, that shit is going to be crazy.

(Side note: It was also a delight to see teams casually hanging out more together today. As much as I enjoy the competition, I missed them all just chilling)

Overall, congrats blue on the win! Cheesy as fuck and they knew it but it was absolutely deserved! They worked their asses off! And green put up a hell of a fight! I hope they get their chance to win as well tomorrow!

#qsmp #soup speaks #it could be perceived that way but this really isnt meant to be a discourse post #i just like thinking about strategy and gameplay balancing lol #this event has been so delightful for me i love disecting possible tactics and ways the admins can make things more fair #while still rewarding interesting and smart strategies #because red's strategy WAS smart #and with the addition of the portals its a lot more fair and opens up opportunities for some sick ass skirmishes over global tasks #i think it also opens up a lot of opportunities for teams to get creative #because all the teams DO have streamers who log in later #even if theyre not their pvp heavy ones #off the top of my head blue has tina missa and rivers #and green has bagi quackity and roier #and not all of those people are the best at pvp but thats where creativity and strategy come in #id love to see blue team come running in with a bunch of explosives or poisoned arrows or other ranged attack methods #to try and stop red team or green team without getting too close contact #like AHHH!!!! i wanna see teams get really creative with this!!! i love fun strategies!!!! #theres so much fun bullshit you can do in this scenario #like god i could sing red's praises so much theyre so tactical and think so strategically its fucking awesome #their cave base made specifically so that it would be less detectable using cave layers? and convincing people they still live at spawn? #delightful #and shoutout blue team for the way they've let people play to their strengths #they caught on to so many good strats early on like moving their base off island and tea being the best food source #and god the way green really came back together today was such a delight to watch #i hadn't caught much of their pov prior to today but i tuned in while they were grinding to fight blue and it was so much fun #i hope them and red actually commit to the little alliance they've formed and try to secure green the win tomorrow #god this event spawns such shit discourse but also im so delighted by it #sorry for the fucking essay in the tags i just have so much to gush about this event kudos to the admins this is sick #qsmp purgatory #really putting the blog back in tumblr blog with this one huh

[elftism]

there were lots of memorable things happening in the fe3h fandom in the few years after it came out, but that whole confederate AU sylvix thing might be one of the most wtf moments

edit: adding on that I remember felix being the confederate soldier and also a vampire or immortal or something

#still wish i had my screenshots from that time. couldnt find any pics of it anywhere unfortunately #oh yeah there was also that fanartist who drew despicable me incest fanart #most other things i can remember are just your average discourse about certain red and blue lords from the game but that's about it #elftisms #fire emblem #fe3h #fire emblem three houses #sylvix #sylvain jose gautier #felix fraldarius #if any of yall still have the screenshots please post them i can only find people talking about the fic online #nothing from the actual fic nor about the person who wrote it #i dont really like fe3h like at all anymore but this shit was so funny

[kamomie]

It might be unintentional on reds part, but they did wait until the last minute when there were no players there to counter their strategy and they made sure to do it so other players were unable to redeem any quests before time ran out. So, it's not 100% the same, but it's close enough that you can't blindly cheer for red and hate on blue for it.

#qsmp #qsmp liveblogging #also people saying red grinded throughout the day for their win #yeah? #so did blue??? #literally could not have cashed in the global quests if they hadn't grinded for the stuff??? #qsmp discourse #it's like everyone is able to see how much purgatory has sucked for red and green #but seem to be unable to recognise that blue team has had a damn terrible time too #they grinded for two days and got nothing #so are they supposed to be sorry they decided that today they were going all in???? #newsflash all the teams play dirty #/neg #just to be sure #venting real hard in the tags

[qtubbo]

The amount of people saying blues using unfair strategy again, and are being cruel for wanting to destroy green’s base when red has destroyed green and blue bases?????

#The endless unescapable nightmare #Also im seeing way to many people talking about how roier and etoiles are annoying #It is upsetting me greatly :[ you dont deserve them #Blues so evil for going to destroy reds base while kind red has only used the bounty hunting mechanic to hunt down bad and not let #Him do anything for the entire day because their so nice #Discourse #red team neg #fandom neg #neg #qsmp fandom neg #Val haterisms #qsmp #Literally any other neg tags I need anything else?????

[sweetie-peaches]

Not so polite post begging people to use god damn tone indicators and tags when talking about purgatory events and discussing teams

Not all of us are able to tell when your joking or being lighthearted, or are mad, or are talking about a person in the perspective of their character Just use them, it doesn’t have to be anything big, (joking) or (lighthearted) to let people know

#peaches posts #qsmp qosts #qsmp #qsmp purgatory #qsmp tumblr is the worst place to be as someone who struggles with telling tone #ngl #it’s like #it sucks a lot #qsmp blue team #qsmp green team #qsmp red team #qsmp discourse #tagging that just to be safe?