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ghostatrandom · 3 months

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If people are going to be talking about XY can I talk about how ever since I made my own rewrite of the games this ship has been in my mind ever since AND IT’S ANNOYING CAUSE ONLY ME KNOWS WHAT’S UP WITH THEM AND THEIR STRUGGLES AND I SUFFER the rivals being the most boring thing is the worst cause no one will go as insane about them like me

Canon is my hell and my headcanons only take me to worse places

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#fanart #digitalart #art #sketch #pokemon #my art #Pokemon xy #acarameladoshipping #pokemon rival tierno #pokemon rival Trevor #tierno x Trevor #yes I still can only draw tierno in my redesign #his original design is a crime that I will ignore #THEY COULD’VE HAD THE WORLD YET THEY WERE BLAND #praying for Pokemon legends za being good please universe I beg of ye

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teehee-vibes · 10 months

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In the Pokémon XY(Z) anime, I think that Tierno should have been the Pokémon performer out of the Kalos friends. I think he should have been Serena’s rival, instead of or with Shauna.

On one hand, Shauna’s great and fine, ya know? She was alright! But just Fine. I would like her more if she was there more.

On the other hand, Tierno’s personality is dancer. He is literally a DANCERRRRR. His Pokémon are DANCERS. It was his entire thing in the games (the source material) and even in the anime because of his battling style. And I get it, girl power and stuff. I loved the female solidarity in the master class, ya know? Girls supporting girls, even when competing, which is why I sorta would still like Shauna there (or give the other girls attention, god bless /lh). But as far fetched and/or impossible as it is for the anipoke writers (/lh again), I would have adored seeing a boy in that setting. A boy unabashedly passionate about performing in a sphere that’s female dominated and being just as supportive and positive. Being totally unashamed. I think that would be so cool.

It would have made his crush make more sense too, honestly, or just add some more charm to it. It wasn’t hindering the show because it didn’t come up often, just hindered his character because it came up when he was there. But imagine it developed as she grew into being a confident performer. Don’t even make the crush reciprocated, it still could have been cuter this way.

AND WHILE IM AT IT, because I just thought of this while writing, if I were in charge of the writing with my current mindset and understanding: Change up the counterparts for the trios.

Make Tierno and Serena each others’ counterparts, and change the others along with it.

I think it’s safe to say Trevor and Clemont were kinda~ counterparts, just the least developed of them (brainiacs, both seem to have some type of anxiety, not neurotypical IN THE SLIGHTEST, etc.). I think that Trevor and Ash could have been fun. Trevor was the member of the Kalos rival trio to master Mega Evolution, and he also battled in the League. In the games, he has a crisis about his own strength and doubts his abilities as a trainer because he has end goals different from other trainers. I just KNOW Ash would have been the best rival and friend to help him through that. Trevor has an affinity for taking photographs of Pokémon, pointing out the differences and rarities in them, and seeking out the legendaries Ash has met and battled before. And Ash, mister nomad with such love for the world around him, I think, would find a lot of interest in that and support it. Plus, Trevor has Charizard. Ash’s ace used to be Charizard. They could have bonded, they could have been incredible.

And that leaves Clemont and Shauna. And what do ya know?? Clemont and Shauna are EXPLICITLY FRIENDS in the games! It didn’t click with me until I started ranting about Tierno and Serena, but CLEMONT AND SHAUNA ARE CANONICALLY BUDDY BUDDY IN THE SOURCE MATERIAL (I get that Shauna is super friendly with Serena in the games as well, but you know what I mean). The device Shauna uses to break into the final chamber of Team Flare’s secret lab was a gift from Clemont. In the beginning of the game, Shauna knows little to nothing about being a trainer, but when she gets to Lumiose City and sees the gym leader and his little sister outside the gym, she recognizes them by face and exclaims “Those two are my friends! :D” It would have been fun seeing an unlikely friendship develop between the scientist who thinks he’s got his future figured out and the trainer with no set path who’s striving to love life as it is in the present.

Do you see the vision?

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zip-toonz · 10 months

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Can't believe the XY special stole my au!!

The original panels I used to make this fake one! I spent an hour digging through the whole manga for this joke. (and I have a whole other page set up)

#trainer trevor #trevor pokemon #shauna pokemon #trainer shauna #trainer tierno #tierno pokemon #serena pokemon #trainer serena #yvonne gabena #trainer calem #calem pokemon #x pokemon #revival au #manga edit #fake manga page

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flightlessribbons · 9 months

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The Kalos 5! They were mostly a trial and error piece for coloring, but I'm still pretty happy with how it turned out! 💕

#kalos 5 #shauna x trevor #trevor #shauna #tierno #kalos #gen 6 #traditional art #ohuhumarkers #my art #pokeverse 108

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textpostmemespksp · 6 months

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Meme #251

(Image description in ALT text, original images below the cut!)

#trainer x #pokespe #pokemon adventures #pokespe meme #pokemon special #trainer tierno #trainer trevor #🦇#source: twitter

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jadeazora · 9 months

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It's so weird how Sina and Dexio are mentioned to battle Flare, but we only get to fight them starting in Sun and Moon, a whole Gen later.

As an aside, I really hated that Sycamore isn't a part of the raid on Lysandre Labs or the Ultimate Weapon. Him and Lysandre are supposed to be friends, I always hoped that Z would feature Lysandre trying to forcibly save Sycamore and his chosen, or that Sycamore would realize that brushing Lysandre off probably factored a fair bit into his actions later in the game. (At least this is finally rectified in Masters where Sycamore TRIES talking to the guy and actually gets the better of him a couple times in their conversation, and after his plan to destroy Pasio is foiled, Lys actually relents a little, choosing to watch and wait to see if the heroes can bring about the type of beautiful world he desires.)

And that's where I'll end off for the night with some final words from AZ. Hopefully we can get thru Couriway/Snowbelle tomorrow!

#pokemon x and y #pokemon xy #pokemon trevor #pokemon tierno #sina and dexio #king az #pokemon az

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deltaqueen184 · 2 months

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were going back in kalos baby

#pokemon #pokemon y #pokemon x #calem #serena #shauna #tierno #trevor #fanart #digital art #my art

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mamasplat · 1 month

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I posted this elsewhere but I wanna post it here too since I have drawn drafts of these concepts waiting

Identity v + pokemon XY crossover concepts

Characters include: Calem, Serena, Shauna, Trevor, Tierno, Diantha.

#this started as an au not a crossover….#hey is this post too niche??#i am cringe but i am free #pokemon x idv posting #crossover concept #idv #identity v #pokémon xy #trainer calem #trainer trevor #trainer tierno #trainer serena #trainer shauna #champion diantha #I don’t feel right tagging the idv characters because it’s less about them and more about who gets the crossover skin

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savebatsartedition · 9 months

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11 - Pokespe - Under the Weather

Originally shared: Aug 15, 2023

Scratch link: https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/878476087/

More notes under the cut!

Instructions:

Press the green flag for the animation and don't steal anything! Please!

I'M SO SORRY I FORGOT ABOUT THIS.

Characters in order:

X (guy with black hair)

Y (gal with blond hair)

Shawna (gal with brown hair)

Trevor (guy with orange hair)

Tierno (second guy with black hair)

I realized I've barely animated (or honestly even drawn) the Kalos people before, and I like them, so I decided to step out of my comfort zone to do so.

Notes and Credits:

@savebatsfromscratch (me) for the animation and stuff!

Pokemon Adventures for the characters of course!

-LemonDrawn- on Scratch for the map.

Derivakat for "Under the Weather"

Scratch bitmap.

#video #animation #trainer x #trainer y #trainer shawna #trainer trevor #trainer tierno #pokespe #pokemon adventures #pokemon special #laverreshipping #just a little :)

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gumamelart · 2 years

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Little doodle for X's birthday

#Pokemon #Pokespe #pokemon special #trainer x #trainer Y #trainer Shauna #Trainer tierno #trainer trevor #gumamelart

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the-falcon-of-the-fall · 1 year

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It’s a commonly agreed fact that western Pokespe fanon, primarily pre-2016, is sexist. Blue, Yellow, Crystal, and Sapphire are the unfortunate targets of being reduced to love interests instead of people of their own, stripping all of their charms and interesting parts of themselves. While it is not thought that this is still a common problem now, mostly because that was predominant in fan fiction which dropped in activity, it still is, though not limited to those four, fan fiction, and is much less blatant. One of the recent victims of this is unfortunately Y.

I noticed from the years of being in the Pokespe fandom that the fanon regarding X and Y is very skewed and layered with unintentional sexism and double standards between genders that’s not very obvious. Either X is a sad, depressed boy and Y’s a hot-headed and short tempered girl, or Y doesn’t have good friends to support her through her problems, has to suppress her emotions to be a leader, and never gets anything good. Both are true to varying extents in canon. X is sad and depressed and needs help. Y’s life is pretty sucky and her friends do only realize how much they rely on her until she’s gone and Y doesn’t receive enough validation from them. However, there’s much more nuance to that, and it’s sad to see the fandom not see that, believing it’s one or another.

I’ll first discuss the “X is a sad depressed boy and Y’s a hot-headed and short-tempered girl. That fandom narrative is unsettlingly more dominant, because it sweeps X’s flaws under the rug and makes Y seem more flawed because she looks unreasonable for being frustrated at him. X is frustrating to deal with, particularly in the beginning. He snaps at Trevor and Tierno under high-stress moments trying to help him, Shauna doesn’t really talk with him throughout the arc and is an edgy pessimistic misandrist because of him (and it obviously can’t be Trevor and Tierno as they’re very nice), and he has a bad attitude to Sycamore and Cassius despite them trying to help him and his friends.

(from the second side chapter, page 7 on Mangadex)

(from Vol. 1, Chapter 3, page 12 on Mangadex)

(from vol. 2, Chapter 8, page 23 on Mangadex)

(from Vol 2, Chapter 15, page 18 on Mangadex)

Even if X’s under great stress and has distrust for adults, that’s still not right for him to do. X may be depressed, but his flaws should still be acknowledged and corrected. Y is right to constantly call him out, and as much as she comes off as harsh to him, he never expresses a problem with her, which he clearly would have if he did. Even X realizes that when he messes up or when his attitude and actions in the past and present, he has to take responsibility, though not always in the right ways (invading Team Flare’s HQ on his own). He makes an effort to change and be better for the people around him, seen with trying to be good friends to Trevor and Tierno since the beginning of the arc, being more proactive as the arc continues, and apologizing to Y when she tells him he worried the hell out of her and everyone else for running into Team Flare’s HQ on his own. Being depressed doesn't justify his bad and apathetic attitude or treating his friends terribly, and he knows that. That X can acknowledge his mistakes and tries to change from them speaks to how strong his empathy and willingness to change is, and the fact no one acknowledges that misses what are some of the best parts of his character. While there’s a lot more to the matter about the fandom’s perception of mental health issues and X, that is a completely different topic I won’t discuss here.

While Y does come off as overly harsh and hot-headed on X, it’s only to X. She never acts this way to Shauna at all, who’s the second person who pisses her off the most. When Shauna ran away in frustration at Y, Y didn't bother trying to bring her back and let her cool off.

(Vol 1, Chapter 5, page 22 on Mangadex)

While it turns out to be a mistake, this does show that Y isn’t as hot-headed as fanon often depicts her. Knocking at X’s window every day to have him go outside would wear down her patience eventually. However, with Shauna, she doesn’t let Shauna’s disagreements bother her so much she gets mad and tried to confront her, as she usually does with X, because Shauna at her usual worst is the sassy friend whose jabs aren’t actually harmful.

Now I will discuss the “Y doesn’t have good friends to support her through her problems, has to suppress her emotions to be a leader, and never gets anything good”, which while not as prevalent, is still pretty unfortunate. The emotional suppression part has established to never been true from the start, she makes her problems with X clear and she doesn’t try to hide she’s fine when she finds out Grace is gone. In fact, she directs those emotions to a more productive way, seen here:

(Vol. 4, chapter 26, page 19 on Mangadex)

While it’s true that Y’s friends only realize they relied so much on Y once she’s gone and Y clearly doesn’t get enough validation from them, that’s because her demeanor makes it seem like she doesn’t need it (even though this poor girl does need that because she thinks X is smarter than her, and I’m showing this panel because it forever hurts me).

(Vol. 2, Chapter 17, page 8 on Mangadex)

(Vol 2, chapter 17, pages 23-24 on Mangadex)

While Y is certainly their leader, she’s not the sole decision maker of the group, and the panels above and below demonstrate that she can’t expect to and she has to hear their opinions.

(Vol. 3, chapter 19, pages 4-6 on Mangadex)

While the group’s plan is very obviously flawed and they didn’t find the Team Flare HQ as they wanted to, this shows that their friendship is not a one-way street as the latter narrative implies. The friend group have minds and agency of their own, and while they do rely on Y, they have their own opinions to the situation that Y doesn’t share. And in the end, they are right they should fight Team Flare head on instead of running. Taking that initiative to fight against them is what led them to reunite with Korrina and Diantha and meet Gurkinn, and led them to meet more allies through the gym leaders and Green to stop Team Flare from firing the Ultimate Weapon. This change in attitude and new opportunities followed along after it was not because Y made that decision alone, but all of them agreeing to do it. While the attack on Team Flare was only spearheaded by X’s stupid decision to go in there alone, it still shows that it wasn’t Y who made that decision, but X, who helped delay the first firing even if he was stupid about. Even Y acknowledges that would have been an acceptable plan if X told them all.

(Vol 4, chapter 27, page 17 on Mangadex)

A more unsettling part of that narrative is that it implies that Y’s friends have to help her with her bullying at school and they have to help her with her issues with Grace. That ignores that Y’s friends can’t help her with bullying at school because they don’t go there. And as much Y getting bullied frustrates her, she refuses to let it get to her to the point she wants to skip school and stop being a sky battler. That’s very impressive, because not everyone can stand against that kind of constant harassment, but that’s so rarely talked about, if ever. But that strength can’t always be founded by one person alone. There are hints that Shauna, Trevor, and Tierno all think and say to her she should be a sky battler because she wants to, given how that Trevor says in the first chapter he calls Y’s dreams big and everyone agrees Y is one of their best battlers, so it shows they do support her in that regard, even if it isn’t very obvious.

(from vol. 1, chapter 3, page 11 on Mangadex)

And while it most certainly was because Y saved her bullies’ lives, the bullying stops at the end and Y even has a friendly relationship with Yvette to the point she can say she looks up to her.

(Vol. 6, chapter 39, page 24 on Mangadex)

Unfortunately, the fanon narrative also ignores how Grace and Y are in a more unique position that none of Y’s friends can understand, as Grace and Y are famous public figures, which is a big part of their conflict, while Shauna, Trevor, and Tierno are not. X himself can’t help Y with her issues with Grace either because he gets along with Grace, so he will have biases in favor of her, but he also doesn’t agree with Grace trying to stop Y from being a sky battler because he’s the one who encouraged Y to think for herself and pursue her own dreams. He recognizes that Y is in a situation he can’t understand or help with. Only Grace and Y can address the problems in their relationship, which they do in the end and on better terms now.

Furthermore, this fanon creates a double standard between her and Pearl, who has a similar situation like her. Both have strained relationships with their parents they don’t discuss much with their friends, both are leaders of their groups, both have to deal with a massive world-ending catastrophe involving legendaries, and both have been hairs away from death. While Pearl had a much less stressful situation in the beginning while Y’s in one since Day 1 and Palmer’s merely distant from Pearl, not disencouraging of his dreams, no one ever criticizes Dia or Platinum for never addressing Pearl’s issues with Palmer, especially Dia, who knows Palmer. Only Pearl and Palmer could address their problems in their relationship, with as a common meme shows, Palmer insisting that Pearl calls him “daddy” as a signal they aren’t so distant and Pearl doing so at the end. This double standard all but says that only boys and men can solve problems in their relationships on their own, while girls and women need someone to help solve their relationship problems. That is completely wrong and a potentially damaging message, as this can lead to girls and women receiving wrong advice from the wrong people or getting other negative consequences, instead of following what they believe is right and is actually right in addressing issues in their life. Of course, some people who believe this fanon may not have read the Dppt arc, however, the fact that Pearl’s situation with Palmer in relation to Dia or Plat isn’t discussed much still points to an unfortunate double standard.

Now I want to say that people who believe in either of those fanons regarding Y or any kind of fanon where the subtle sexism is there are not all bad people who want to hold women back. Sexism in the west is still present and still must be addressed. However, it can manifest in more subtle ways, and we should be critical of the opinions we hear and our own as well. I hope that we can discuss this more, and I’m happy to hear any response.