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mikaikaika · 1 year
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Can't wait for Missa to come home to a deranged sugar baby trying to kidnap his husband, an adopted rockstar son, a new granddaughter to take care of, Quackity trying to live in their backyard to steal said granddaughter and the entirety of their lawn being turned into a giant ass potato farm.
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thesmpisonfire · 11 months
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Okay so. I'm taking most of y'all feelings over Forever have been slightly distorted due to language barriers. Because Forever can't fully express himself in English, so his arguments often sound silly or simply funded in nothing
But y'all need to understand that Forever has been suffering ever since he got on the island. Just like water that can break a rock if it hits it too many times, so is Forever with the constant stress of the server. He saw his son lose a life on his second day, he saw one of his son's dads be kidnapped on the first week BECAUSE Felps was trying to make a deal with the Federation and he spent a LOT of in-game months with the possibility that Felps might have been killed
He took over his shoulders the guilt of Tallulah's death because he isn't a good PvPer, he took the responsibility of protecting all the eggs even if no one expected him to. He created the egg hotel and a system that is constantly upgrading in order to keep all the eggs safe
And what he got out of it?
Cellbit's (momentary) betrayal, the French suspecting him, BBH and Baghera keeping stuff from him
Forever holds his heart on his sleeve, and as he does his trust. He trusts 100% and he cares 100% and he loves with all he has. It makes him an extremely loyal person, but also someone extremely inclined to lashing out bc there are too many emotions to keep bottled inside
Cellbit's betrayal hit him DEEP. It pushed him over the edge and made him completely paranoid over anyone else. Cellbit was his best friend and he stabbed Forever in the back with the worst betrayal he could think of: Taking Richas away
This messed up badly with Forever, and then Richa got momentarily kidnapped (willingly) by Quackity. Those two days were BAD. Not only was Forever without Richa, there was also the code attack right after he got Richas back and when the French doubted him
It was when Forever found out that no matter what he did, it didn't matter to people if they wanted to frame him as a traitor. BBH and Baghera defended him at that moment, but it was a bad hit for Forever
And then, Bad and Baghera, out of the care and love in their hearts, i know it, saw how under pressure Forever was, and how he was so close to breaking and they needed to help him somehow. Their decision? Keep information from him, so he wouldn't feel more overwhelmed
It DIDN'T help. If anything, made Forever even more paranoid and hurt. Because Forever would never keep info from his sister and the guy he trusts the most. But they would keep from him and share with each other instead, even if it was to be sure before delivering the info later to Forever
All of this broke Forever's stability. A couple of days ago, he tried to name the people he'd trust with his life and he couldn't name anyone beyond the other Brazilians and Baghera (he was upset with BBH at the time and didn't count him). And it's so heartbreaking that he feels he has this little people he could count on. Ofc later the day he talked with Bad and he reassured Forever he'd be there for him no matter what. With popcorn if he wanted to laugh and with Kleenex if he wanted to cry (Well. Bad,,, you weren't good in keeping this promise, were you?)
And then. We arrive at the most recent situation that Forever feels like it's him against the world. Again. The Jaiden situation
From Forever's POV, he only interacted with Jaiden 3 times: When the Brazilians arrived; During the quest for Bobby (in which Forever was the one defending Jaiden, he was the one to check on her until the end before leaving her alone); And now where she's working for Cucurucho
Forever saw what happens to people that worked for the Federation, Cellbit and Felps tried to get something for Richa and just got completely fucked over, and didn't even got rewarded with the extra life they asked for. Forever knows the Federation isn't trustworthy and worries for anyone that tries to get closer (His panic over Quackity being taken even if they were fighting just minutes prior, his fear that the same would happen to Jaiden)
But even after all the warnings, Jaiden is still doing her tasks, she's still following the missions. From what Forever heard, she's doing all of this for Bobby and the other eggs. And there comes the most important part: Forever sees himself in Jaiden
He saw her grief and her house and how she wanted everything to be back to normal. He knows he's practically looking at a future version of himself in case Richa dies. And he knows that he'd do anything to get Richa back, including support the Federation
Not only that, but everything keeps pointing to Jaiden not being trustworthy. The fact she held Baghera away when Pomme died, how she's still working for Cucurucho despite the warnings, the broken satellite (I mean. Cellbit had a task to destroy his xp farm inside a PROTECTED house, breaking some copper would be nothing)
And even with all of this?? He still cares for Jaiden. A fucking lot. It's WHY he's lashing out and being so loud, because his emotions are a turmoil within him and he wants to save Jaiden from herself but he doesn't know how to do so. All he knows is that they can't trust her but they need to save her anyway. But he's too loud, and over reactive, and he lashes out because wearing his heart on his sleeve means he'll bleed all over the ones around him the moment he gets hurt
He tells Bad his suspicions and then Bad just dismisses them to say Jaiden is trustworthy but can't explain to Forever why. The same Bad that promised he'd stay by Forever's side no matter what. Ofc Forever got hurt, it was just like another betrayal. And Baghera doesn't trust Jaiden as well, but she keeps it to herself, which makes Forever feel even more isolated. His two supports aren't trying to understand his side and instead trying to undermine it (in his POV), and so in who he'll get the support he needs? Maxo, the well known paranoia echo chamber
Forever has been hurt and betrayed and he's trying so hard to heal from that and keep his bonds and connections but to him it feels like he's always the one to give give give and never receive back. He can't lose anyone else but it's like everyone keeps slipping from his fingers. This means Cellbit, Felps, Richa, Bad, Baghera, and yes Jaiden as well. He wants everyone safe, he just doesn't know how to properly convey it
And so... Yeah. Ofc he suspects of Jaiden. Who wouldn't do the same if they could have their dead kid back?
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anonymous-dentist · 8 months
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q!Cellbit’s reaction to Jaiden being back will be really interesting actually because we know that he’s going to be lied to 100%, and he’s very good at picking up when people are lying to him. He’s literally a detective, and Jaiden has been kinda bad at keeping the facts straight in her story. The second she messes up in front of him, he’ll know, and it could get messy fast.
Going all the way back to his prison days, trust has been one of his highest priorities. He needs to trust someone before he can really even begin trying to be friends with them, and he trusts Jaiden a lot. She’s one of his closest friends, and it’s obvious that she trusts him just as much because he was one of the first to get to see Bobby Fields. He’s never really cared about her liking Cucurucho because he trusts her not to, like, betray him and join the Feds or something. Because they’re friends!
And Jaiden doesn’t trust the Federation, let’s make that clear. She said as much today to the Cucuruchos: she trusts them, not their organization.
But then she also said that Cucurucho attacking Cellbit and killing him was just it being “silly”, and I think that’s actually what could do her in here. But it also depends!
Because Cellbit hates the Federation. But he hates Cucurucho more. It’s an obsession. Trying to kill Cucurucho is one of two things that breaks his therapy; he only feels genuine bloodlust and rage when he’s triggered, including when he sees Cucurucho. Because Cucurucho tortured him. Murdered him. Laughed over his corpse. Tortured him some more. Threatened his son. Kidnapped his best friend. Kidnapped him.
So when he hears that Jaiden was kidnapped by Cucurucho, he’ll obviously be on her side immediately. But he also knows how the island’s kidnappings have worked so far, he’s studied them in enough detail to know that the Federation takes people for a reason. For Quackity, it was to have ElQuackity active on the island. For Felps, it was some kind of experiment that he just hadn’t had the ability to look into. For himself, it was because he kinda did join them, but it was also clearly a punishment for what he had done up to that point. It was also a reward for his loyalty and his willingness to abandon himself in the Federation’s name, which is interesting because…
He knows that Jaiden has been doing the same tasks as him. He even warned her from the start to be careful because he got kidnapped after doing his tasks. And then now she did get kidnapped, and he’ll obviously believe her from the start because of the clear evidence pointing towards her telling the truth.
But he doesn’t like when people lie to him. If he finds out, it might not be very pretty. He loves her, yeah, and he trusts her with almost everything he can offer outside of his own ‘mind’ (aka the Fear Room.) He was even gonna build her an office in the Order! And to hear that she was lying to him about this?
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giving u a free ticket 2 talk about qsmp more bc its fun 🎟🎟 tell me about jaiden. i only vaguely see people talking about jaiden and i just think shes a cool person in general (<< used 2 watch her animation videos ALL the time) so i wanna know what shes up to :]
OH DUDE. INSANE ABOUT QJAIDEN FR. i don't watch her pov often so a lot of this might be off but like. i will not stop thinking about her ever. okay. so jaiden and roier. platonic partners forever and ever <3 they had a son named bobby and he was just the SILLIEST little guy ever on the planet!!! such a little shit!!! and he was so so caring and loving!!! he DIED. ok. he DIED and it was SAD. and roier coped by hiding his grief with jokes, but jaiden just kind of. wallowed in her grief. she let it consume her. and CUCURUCHO CAME ALONG and started hanging out with her and being nice to her. and like. ok. whatever u weird ass bear.
but like. the way she treated cucurucho kind of got similar to the way she treated bobby. and ALL OF US could see that that fucking THING was trying to manipulate her by being a fucking STAND-IN FOR HER SON. and jaiden is not stupid or naive, she definitely realized that she was trying to fill this bobby shaped hole in her heart with cucurucho, but she kind of just. let it happen. it was better to use this love on something than let it sit there with nowhere else to go and turn into more grief. yk.
it's kind of canon that jaiden was involved with the federation somehow before arriving on the island. none of us know HOW. also she has wings!!! she's a parrot hybrid which is really cool!!! but we also know that the feds did horrible experiments on other bird people like baghera and quackity and they're messing with phil. THEY HATE BIRDS I GUESS. also she can't fly. she either doesn't remember how to or never learned how in the first place, and that second option has some WILD implications if u think about her mostly unknown past with the feds
OK now it gets kind of complicated bc GUESS WHAT there are multiple cucuruchos. there's one that types All proper and normal, with correct grammar and punctuation, like this. and another one that types KARKAT STYLE IN ALL CAPS AND IS VERY SILLY!!! and the all caps one (i think??) is called osito bimbo by some of the islanders. at some point jaiden was... not rly kidnapped???? but i guess like. recruited by the federation to spend two weeks training osito bimbo because he wasn't a very proper cucurucho. and these two weeks FUCKED HER UP. she got MORE emotionally attached to the cucuruchos. they are some of the only living(?) things she can count on. she is DEEP in the shit now. even after learning about horrible things that one or more of the cucuruchos have done (the cellbit chainsaw torture, the felps kidnapping, etc etc) she kind of brushed that off as like "oh they were just being silly!!!!" like Girl These People Are Traumatized. So Are You. GET HELP. like she's fully aware that the federation is bad, but she separated cucurucho from the federation in her mind so she doesn't have to feel bad about caring for cucurucho. she's really close with people who have been wronged by the feds and/or cucurucho but she just. can't let go of this lifeline. cucurucho is so important to her, just like bobby. she can't give that up.
my beloved grieving mother/flightless bird/federation favourite <3 she is so interesting i'm going to start ripping up floorboards
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mcytscienceside · 4 months
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YESSS omg so many interesting dynamic
Ramon turning up on Blue with Fit brings us Dapper and Ramon being the frenemies ever (they lovehate each other)
And also Dapper would somehow get into all the higher ups meetings, and him and Tubbo would have the funniest beef ever /affectionate. It’s like every meeting Tubbo plays the game how to find Dapper’s new hidy hole before everything especially important and serious is revealed. He is a good sport about it though if Dapper finds an especially good way to sneak in and hide.
Em, Pepito and Sunny as the youngest are the most protected ones, and often they ended up spending nights together in a cuddle pile under so so many blankets. Tubbo often falls asleep next to them in an armchair which he is reprimanded about by Pac and Tina each time.
Tilin would be so on edge when they get there with Quackity, especially because Bobby, Jaiden and Roier all end up on Red. I think she might be the one to run away.
Pomme, Richas and Dapper would have secret meetings, whenever they can.
Tallulah can’t help but like Tubbo, but she despises Sunny when they first meet. Hard to say why. Meanwhile Chayanne not only adores Tubbo in his own way (despite being very loyal to pa Phil and the kingdom), but also actually finds Sunny cool and funny. He can’t show it outwardly though to not upset Tallulah. But he does sneak his cooking (mainly happiness cookies) to Sunny as gifts when he has a chance.
Bobby and Richas miss each other so much. Maybe Pomme actually takes Bobby as well to her meet ups with Dapper and Richas sometimes.
I don’t know how, but I think there should be something with Roier and Pepito. Maybe Bolas kidnapping Pepito for some reason? And Roier is forced to take care of the kid hostage (they don’t hurt Pepito or give Pepito basic necessities and care because a) Pepito is a child b) Pepito is an important hostage for political reasons).
Rivers would teach the kids sword fighting. Forever and Niki would teach them stuff like geography and literature and languages whenever they can (most of the people will more or less participate in their teaching, but those two the most because they are the best at it).
Bolas do not believe in academics. Forever was green kids’ teacher before as well, but he did have much less time for it because of the more workload.
Pierre works on building robots for all the kids. Just in case.
I think Sunny and Tilin would become unexpected friends while Tilin is still with Blue (in the storyline where he runs away. If Tilin stays, they are still friends).
Empanada and Chayanne have a recipe exchange. This is their only communication – sending each other recipes as letters.
Trump might run away to Blue. I don’t know why, but I think it might happen.
YOUR COOKING!!! YOUR COOKING!! HEHEHE OKAY WAIT GONNA PUT MORE THOUGHTS UNDER READ MORE!!
I will say that Bolas would have academics but it would be MUCH different then what the green kids are used to. What they learned of their solarpunk style tech and magic is instead replaced with lessons on rituals and how to run the bolas technology. They teach the kids how best to use a new magic, one that runs on fire and blood, and some take to it like water while others ademently refuse to learn this stuff.
and the kids sometimes becoming hostages would def be an issue, it's why Bad is so protective of dapper, what better way for them to get to him then through his kid?
So when Pepito is taken by Bolas? I think Bad would have to be held back from literally causing a disaster, he wouldn't focus, he'd be SO angry that it takes multiple people to snap him out of it without causing an earthquake or the volcano to erupt. Also the night crew all meeting up for meetings im soooo :(, they probably wouldn't tell anyone cause much like his dad Dapper is paranoid, he'd definitely not allow anyone like Cheyanne find out or even some of the younger kids who might tattle on them to Tubbo. And Dapper trying to listen in is sooooo wahhhh, Him and Ramon becoming x2 sneaky when they're together and it takes everyone searching the room to find them before any meetings. Tubbo thinks they're very smart but should not be listening in on the serious issues surrounding this intense war. Negotiations can get...heated...to say the least. GOD HEHHE OKAY SO MANY IDEAS TY SO MUCH MY GUY!! These are so so good HEHHE
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So then we get to the bar, and I’m very sure they are basically sneaking out. Like there’s a tiny chance Tommy asked for clearance from Phil and Techno and got it, but it’s more likely he wouldn’t risk it and just want to sneak out. Which does bring the question of why no one was guarding the door. So either 1. Phil and Techno did know. 2. They stopped regarding the door because they realise Wilbur is no longer a threat to Tommy. Or 3. They are a bit too busy dealing with the new realisation of “oh God we kidnapped a guy for nothing and he’s very traumatised how do we fix this/him” to have guarding duty.
Either way Wilbur and Tommy get out and get past Charlie being his wonder creep definitely fully human self again. Then we get to the Wilbur and Quackity dynamic. I love their dynamic in glass so much. Most of it can be summed up by this line [ “Well, what’s a Pythia to a non-believer?”]. Wilbur is just a guy to Quackity. A guy with interesting stories and a lot of privilege, but a guy all the same. Or most like, Wilbur is a person first and the Pythia second instead of the Pythia first and not a person at all.
And somehow this creates a very interesting dynamic of mutual respect. Wilbur knows Quackity doesn’t care about the religious bullshit, so he sticks to different threats (like throwing the drink, something that is entirely possible for him to do). Quackity knows he has no right to call him Wilbur without permission so he doesn’t. They push and they banter and (to Tommy’s dismay and our delight) flirt. And Wilbur might not realise it, but he’s being a person again. A quick-witted one at that.
At the same time, Quackity is aware of Wilbur’s trauma. I don’t think he meant to dig up more by asking about the palace. He’s just trying to learn more about the guy and definitely nosy. He might also be trying to distract Wilbur from getting stuck in his own head like he did while they were talking about the supply run.
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phil and techno have stopped guarding the door during all hours of the day and now mostly just guard it at night, so yeah they're starting to realize that wilbur isn't as much of a threat as he once was but they still don't completely trust him. but yeah, tommy did pretty much sneak out.
I was so happy with the "what's a pythia to a non-believer" line. it sums them up so well just like you said. wilbur is just a guy to quackity! even if the deathlings don't worship clara they still believe in her and hold respect for her, and in turn respect the pythia's status to some degree, while quackity is straight up the neutral party. he doesn't care about clara or kristin, so the pythia is just a person.
and like you said, wilbur knows this. he knows any threats regarding clara won't work so he has to stick to tangible things, and quackity isn't trying to piss him off so he respects the boundaries wilbur puts down with his name. and quackity finds him both interesting and also is a notorious flirt, so he starts flirting with him to see where it goes and wilbur doesn't even realize how he's being a person again like you said. he's not trying to be anything around quackity because he knows the religion aspect is totally null, and in a way it gives him more freedom than he has even around tommy.
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Okay, Pokemon Dream SMP AU
I can’t be arsed to make fakemon so while this is set in a new region it only uses pre existing Pokemon, vauge Pokemon, or characters as regional legendaries sorry. It’s also set out like the games because that’s the Pokemon media I’m most familiar with, so if it reads like a fake rom hack I’m aware sorry. Also this is long.
TommyInnit is a young Pokemon trainer in the region of Essempi, and brother of Gym Leader Wilbur Soot. Today is the day he receives a starter Pokemon, alongside his best friend and friendly rival Tubbo. After a quick battle with Tubbo (who picks the type weaker to Tommy's, daring that he can still beat Tommy even so) he heads to the first gym.
Gym 1 is in L'Manburg Town. The gym leader is Tommy's brother, Wilbur Soot, who’s a Normal type specialist. His gyms gimmick is based on pressing the right combinations of buttons to get through. He gives the LeaderBadge, and gives the TM Explosion. Tommy gets the feeling Wilbur might be going easy on him, but accepts the badge anyway.
It’s after the first gym the player meets the evil (well, “evil”, in this case) team of the region, Team Syndicate. Believing the system of government to be oppressive, they seek to tear it down, and will stop at nothing to get their way. Tommy also meets a mysterious member of Team Syndicate, who doesn’t appear all… human. He introduces himself as Ranboo, and serves as a secondary rival (filling a similar role to N from the original Black and White, though like more traditional secondary rivals he has the starter stronger than Tommy's)
Gym 2 is in Kinoko Town. The gym leader is George, who’s a Grass type specialist. His gyms gimmick is to get through on bouncy mushrooms. He gives the SleepyBadge, and gives the TM Rest. While in Kinoko Town, Tommy can talk to the mysterious Karl Jacobs, who provides some exposition on the Legendary Pokemon of the SMP. Drista, the Chaos Pokemon, and DreamXD, the Order Pokemon, created the land of SMP through a combination of their opposing forces. But the two of them fell into a deep slumber afterwards, requiring Foolish, the Undying Pokemon, to keep the balance in their stead.
Tommy runs into the leader of Team Syndicate, the mysterious “Protesilaus” who hides his face behind an Emboar mask, outside the city after beating the gym, talking to someone mysterious on the phone about “experiments” in an angry tone.
Gym 3 is in Manifold Town. The gym leader is Jack Manifold, who’s an Electric type specialist. His gyms gimmick is based on falling. He gives the AyupBadge, and gives the TM Thunder Fang. After beating Jack, Tommy is once again accosted by Ranboo, who asks if Tommy trusts the Champion to keep him safe. Either answer leads to a battle, but Ranboo clearly doesn’t trust him.
During travelling to the next town, Tommy comes across Wilbur again, and he seems to be taken in by Team Syndicates rhetoric. He says after Tommy beats the champion, he'll step down and allow Tommy to take on the Gym while he ends tyranny. He asks whether Tommy is willing to follow him, though if he answers “no,” he just assumes he’s being convinced by Tubbo.
Gym 4 is in Las Nevadas. The gym leader is Quackity, who’s a Dark type specialist. His gyms gimmick is based around casinos. He gives the AmbitionBadge, and gives the TM Pay Day. He and Wilbur seem to have a history, and before he'll fight you in the gym Tommy is required to take down Wilbur first to stop their bickering.
Tommy and Wilbur meet up with the leaders of the Syndicate. The leaders include “Nemesis”, who wears a Milotic mask, “Zephyrus”, who wears a Corviknight mask, the aforementioned “Protesilaus”, and “Lethe”, who is very clearly Ranboo based on the inhuman features and not even bothering to wear a mask. It’s during this meeting we learn Ranboo is an artificial hybrid of an Absol and a human. The group are abruptly attacked by the second evil team, Team Mask, who are quiet but bear an eerie resemblance to Champion Dream…
Gym 5 is in Rapids Town. The gym leader is Sapnap, who’s a Fire type specialist. His gyms gimmick focuses on dried up river beds. He gives the MarsBadge, and the TM Fire Punch. After beating the Gym, Quackity storms in to berate Sapnap, and Karl Jacobs mysteriously appears in the room. He doesn’t recognise Tommy at first, and engages in a Pokemon battle, but afterwards he calms down his fiancés, and when he leaves says an eerie line implying he knows more than he should.
With the leaders of Team Syndicate, Tommy and Wilbur launch an assault on one of the laboratories producing hybrids. It’s here where we learn Tubbo has been captured by them, and Tommy must fight Team Mask Scientists Ponk and Sam in a double battle with Ranboo helping them. Tubbo is rescued, but has already become a Wooloo hybrid. We also learn through records that they’re trying to get their hands on legendary Pokemon to make hybrids with them, starting with rumours of sitings of Celebi.
Gym 6 is in Drywaters Town. The gym leader is Niki, who’s a Water type specialist. Her gyms gimmick focuses around confectionary. She gives the TreatBadge, and gives the TM Hidden Power. Niki reveals that she is Nemesis, and gives Tommy a job to rescue her girlfriend Puffy from the nearby ruins where she got lost to gain her trust. After this, she becomes friends with him.
Tubbo manages to find concrete evidence Team Mask is associated with Dream, which leads to Tommy being attacked by more Team Mask goons. “Protesilaus” shows up, but is unable to help- it turns out that Dream is blackmailing him with his oldest Pokemon, an old Rapidash, and he can’t openly fight against him. Tommy fights “Protesilaus,” and removes his mask, revealing him to be Elite Four member Technoblade, who scurries off into the night.
Gym 7 is in Badlands City. The gym leader is Skeppy, who is a Rock type specialist. His gyms gimmick revolves around precious gems. He gives the DiamondBadge, and gives the TM Rock Polish. Skeppy is a Carbink hybrid, and we learn that Dream's plan is to create an army of hybrids loyal to him, to have complete control over the Essempi region. It’s only because Ranboo and Tubbo weren’t fully completed hybrids that they’re not completely loyal.
Tommy and Tubbo are attacked by Team Mask Executives BadBoyHalo (a Grimmsnarl hybrid) and Charlie (A Reinunculus hybrid), and Tommy is nearly kidnapped for hybridisation but Wilbur sacrifices himself. Tommy, Tubbo and Ranboo rush to save him, and they find a laboratory with Dream already in it. He leaves while laughing at their amusing attempts and after monologuing about his plans to capture and hybridise himself with whatever legendary is the box cover one to become all poweful, and they barely manage to save Wilbur from the affects, but he’s left completely amnesiac as a Mimikyu hybrid.
Gym 8 is in Endlantis Town. The gym leader is Philza, who’s a Flying type specialist. His gyms gimmick revolves around careful jumps in lowered gravity. He gives the CrowBadge and gives the TM Sky Attack. Philza reveals himself as “Zephyrus”, and offers Tommy his support.
Dream summons the box legendary, but the player shows up in time to capture it, while Philza fights off Dream. Dream storms off, but not before mentioning that Tommy's stubborn determination is certainly interesting. Karl Jacobs shows up to heal Tommy's Pokemon, and it’s shown he is the Celebi hybrid travelled to the past.
The Elite Four are made up of Ghost type specialist Eret, Steel type specialist Purpled, Dragon type specialist Punz, and Fighting type specialist Technoblade. It’s shown Purpled and Punz are oblivious to Dream's true nature, Eret remorseful and trying to help in whatever ways she can, and Technoblade’s blackmailed.
The champion is Dream, who reveals he doesn’t care about winning or losing or the sport. If he wins, he’s going to personally get Tommy hybridised, force him to hand over the legendary, hybridise with them to get ultimate power, and rule the entirety of Essempi, with Tommy at his side unable to resist. When Tommy beats Dream, he breaks down, and the Elite Four come in, and since they could hear Dream and now he’s helpless, he’s arrested, and the control over full hybrids is ended by the chaos/order/undying will of the box legendary, while Tommy becomes champion. The End.
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More timeline stuff!
- I forgot to put this in the last one, but imma say that Dream was captured by the Schlatts at age 6, in 2005.
- In 2010, Wilbur becomes a superhero at age 14, bc that’s Danny Phantom’s age.
- Also in 2010, Quackity, who was 10 at the time, gets kidnapped by the Schlatts. This can be changed around a bit if necessary/if I forgot something.
- In 2011, Dream, who was 12 at the time, escaped the Schlatts and went to live w/ George’s family. George would’ve been 15.
- The govt hero program tries to recruit Sam when he’s 17, in 2013. He becomes a solo hero instead.
- In 2014, Techno becomes a hero at age 15.
- In 2015, Antfrost becomes a hero at age 16.
- In 2016, Velvet escapes at the age of 16 and meets Sapnap, who is about 19 in demon years (he’s 20 in demon years at the start of canon).
- Also in 2016, Techno (age 17) makes what he still regards to be the greatest mistake of his career, accidentally killing Jack Manifold (age 14) in an explosion.
- The govt hero program’s pr ppl spin this to their advantage by saying that government regulated heroes are safer. This is demonstrably not the case. They had to manipulate a lot of data and charts to make this claim look remotely reasonable.
- Techno ends up founding the Syndicate initially as a way to hold himself more accountable by having other people he trusts to do the right thing nearby. Kind of like in fullmetal alchemist brotherhood, how Mustang made Riza promise to kill him if he ever goes to far.
- Okay now back to the other side of the story. Niki and Jack were actually childhood friends, long before either of them became villains.
- Also before either of them became villains, they found a couple of old arm bracers (y’know, like Wonder Woman’s arm things that she uses to deflect bullets) in Niki’s basement. One was blue and the other was red.
- Jack got the red one and Niki got the blue one, granting them fire and water powers respectively.
- Honestly they mostly just used them to mess around. They got into some trouble, but the worst crimes they did were like… vandalism, minor property destruction, and shoplifting.
- When Jack died, Niki was 15. She became a villain nearly immediately after. She had been hoping to attract Techno’s attention so she could fight him herself. Luckily, considering the fact that he had several more years of formal training and experience that she lacked, this didn’t end up happening.
- She inherited the red bracer when he died, but refused to use it.
- Niki also dyed her hair pink around this time.
- The Schlatts saw Jack and Niki doing magic stuff w/ their powers and stole Jack’s corpse for experimentation purposes.
- In the winter of 2016, Jack Manifold was resurrected by the Schlatts. (Well, actually, it might be just Schlatt singular by this point, but I haven’t actually nailed down the Schlatts’ timeline yet, so…)
- Schlatt and Co. can’t figure out how to recreate the resurrection process without Jack, so they keep trying to capture him. This carries on through the era of the show.
- In early 2017, Niki finds out about this and rescues Jack and gives him back the red bracer, and they become a Villainous Duo together.
- Also in 2017, Ponk, being an absolute fucking prodigy I guess, graduates medical school and becomes a doctor at age 17. I feel like there’s a lot more to be said about this and what it says about Ponk as a character, but that’s probably best saved for another time.
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Ok so, these are all fucking genius as always /gen I especially love Niki and Jack's story <333
And damnnnn so this is a TEEN Titans au XD
Regarding Quackity, age 10 is fine as long as the whole "Q and Schlatt were actually friends and had mutual feelings for a bit" stays >< Also, PRODIGY PONK LETS GOOOOOO!!
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dodo-begone · 3 years
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Loyal here!
I was thinking about the yandere kids and had a thought. If all this yandere stuff goes down while Tubbo and Ranboo are platonically married, perhaps they’d work together in kidnapping y/n and bring them back to their shared home. Maybe the two try and persuade y/n to stop trying to escape by guilting them with Michael. And though he’s a child and none of it’s his fault, I’m sure that—so long as the Stockholm syndrome hasn’t kicked in yet—they would grow to despise the kid. So, in a last ditch effort, maybe they threaten Michael’s life, but promise his safety so long as the two boys would just let them go. Please. They can’t take this anymore.
Imagine if y/n had wings. They’re basically a symbol of freedom, ya know? I’m only familiar with the DSMP, but my god. I don’t see any of them letting their darling keep their ability to fly. I’m too tired to group ppl at the moment, but here are some generalized reactions/responses I’d expect. (I hope that last sentence made sense. I’m tired af.) Some would maybe clip four or five primary feathers, allowing y/n to glide, but not lift off. Others may clip some secondary feathers, which leads to poor gliding and landing. Gives y/n a hope that they can fly away, only to struggle to stay in the air and/or land safely. If this is the case, the yandere can go and collect their darling, cooing at them and softly telling them that everything will be okay as they lead y/n back home and tend to their wounds. Or, maybe they’re scolding, telling y/n that they knew this would happen, and if they’d listened, they wouldn’t be hurt. Then there’s those who would clip both primary and secondary. They don’t want to take any chances, but they also ain’t gonna risk hurting them or making y/n hate them. Also, there’s those that would flat out pluck the feathers. If a birds feathers are plucked from the same spot often enough, they’ll never grow back. Lastly, those who decide that the wings need to go. Whether this is their first choice or a last-ditch effort depends on the person, though. I only pray that y/n ends up stuck with a yandere who would only do so as a last resort.... :)
I don’t know why, but this concept has always plagued my minds when it comes to yaderes in general. For yanderes who would be a romantic and not platonic: how would they react if their darling didn’t swing their way? For example, a female yandere who has a male darling that’s gay, a female yandere with a female darling who’s straight, or a male yandere with a gender neutral darling who’s into girls. THIS HAS BEEN IN MY HEAD FOR YEARS AND IDK WHY IVE NEVER BROUGHT IT UP BUT IM BRINGING IT UP NOW. Idk why, but the concept is funny to me. There’s so many ways that this can be discovered by the yandere. Imagine being so close to confessing to your darling, only to see them making googoo eyes at some dude and they comment about his looks. When you ask their sexuality, they say they only like guys. You’re a girl. OR maybe you’re a guy and your darling comes to you with something heavy obviously on her mind. She wringing her hands as she says that she wants to tell you something, mentioning that you’ll be the first to know. She comes out to you as lesbian. *Cue surprised Pikachu face* it just *chefs kiss* cracks me up.
Ah yeah, the platonic marriage team-up. A dream team- Threatening Micheal; 10/10 move. They care so much for Micheal, but who do they care more for? Do they want you to stay more than Micheal to live? If Micheal was disposable... you aren't going anywhere. Go on, try it >:D
Okay the wings? Hella fun idea! I don't know birds well, so forgive me on this Loyal- So here's what I got (this is dsmp only)
Clip Primaries: Philza, Quackity, Eret Clip Secondaries: Foolish, Niki, Bad Clip a bit of both: Ranboo, Fundy Pluck em: Schlatt (You won't fly away AND he gets memorabilia) No Wings: Techno, Dream
I'll admit, I've only thought about that last one a few times but I never really pondered over it heavily. It's an absolutely hilarious crack idea but also a heavy angst idea. The amount of pain inflicted on both parties- UGH. I'd go into this deeper, but then it'd get more questionable and might trigger/upset some people.
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blockgamepirate · 3 years
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Any idea on who Harpocrates is? My head is saying Dream, but my heart is saying Karl. In all seriousness, I feel like, from a doylist perspective, Dream is going to be Harpocrates. I think that's how the narrative is going to play out.
I have no idea, dude, I actually went through the entire whitelist earlier trying to figure it out but I really don’t know what to think. And the fact that his theme is secrets kinda means it could LITERALLY be almost anyone, since he could even be pretending to be something he's not. And even the pronouns could be a trick, might not even be a "he".
That said, I was partly joking about FitMC but honestly that would be so cool. I kinda hope it IS a new member.
I agree that Dream is a very plausible option, unfortunately. But at the same time it would feel so wrong to me. Dream is definitely not an anarchist, or at least he definitely wasn't when he went to prison, and it doesn't really sound like he's become one while in there (although it's not unthinkable, people do become anarchists in prison, it's kind of a thing). And what would have had to have happened off-screen to make Techno and Phil trust him? Because they didn't trust him even when they were working together, what would convince them to change their minds?
I guess one possibility that comes to mind is that Dream might have sent messages to Techno through enderwalk!Ranboo. It's not impossible at least. There isn't really evidence that he has? But it could have happened. And he might have convinced Techno into believing that he was an anarchist now, who knows.
Narratively speaking... I don't actually know if it makes sense to me. Maybe if Dream joined in good faith it could be interesting but it would be a huge shift in his characterisation with no build up... and if he joins to trick and use them, idk, that just sounds repetitive both for him and for Techno. None of this is really speaking to me, I'm gonna be honest. I feel like the more interesting option for the narrative would be that Techno helps Dream break out, fulfilling his favour, and then Techno has to deal with whatever consequences result from Dream getting out.
It WOULD be funny if Techno was making fun of him for not showing up to the first meeting while he was LITERALLY IN PRISON tho. And I guess it might explain their dismissiveness towards the news that Dream beat Tommy to death, although I think that was more of a meta thing than some kind of hint.
Hey speaking of enderwalk!Ranboo, has anyone suggested him as the possible Harpo? That would honestly be hilarious. Ranboo unknowingly sitting right across the table from literally himself. One side named after secrets, the other forgetfulness. It would mean Techno and Phil secretly know about enderwalk!Ranboo, which would definitely be a twist.
Not the MOST plausible idea maybe but it's an INTERESTING one.
Short comments on other possible options:
Callahan: it would be funny, I would love it, probably not tho
George, Sapnap: I highly doubt it.
Sam: literally a prison warden, nope nope nope, he's like the one person I'm SURE it isn't
Sam Nook: okay I can't even take this seriously lol
Alyssa: ...
Ponk: he's with the egg, also I just can't see it at all
BBH, Antfrost, Punz: no
Tommy: now that would be one hell of a twist... but no
Fundy: no
Purpled: I don't think so
Wilbur: he dead
Ghostbur: not around, also not very good at keeping secrets
Schlatt: he dead
Glatt: a landlord apparently
Skeppy: maaaaaybe? I don’t THINK it’s him but... HMMM
Eret: literal monarch, although has apparently shown some interest in anarchism
Jack Manifold: nope
Quackity: lmao no
Mexican Dream: he dead
Karl Jacobs: I mean Karl would absolutely join anything, but like wtf. Unless there's some kind of timeline shenanigans going on I highly doubt it. And I think he's too into his own thing right now. Apparently building a kingdom???
HBomb: honestly this is a plausible option! Like he's not gonna be an active member, he has his own place far away, but he WAS kinda vibing with Techno and Phil on Doomsday. As far as I know, it could be him.
Connor: I don't know shit about Connor tbh but sure why not. I mean he seems to be kinda forgiving about the whole kidnapping and torture thing and technically Techno and him kinda had a tentative alliance at one point??? Plus Connor is Techno's friend out of character.
Puffy: I'm not gonna lie, she was the first person I considered. But I don't think it's her. There's no point in making her a member secretly off-stream.
Vikkstar or Lazarbeam: I'd say it could very well be one of them if not for the fact that they don't really play on the server anymore afaik. Also I'd expect them to both join if they did?
Foolish: I don't know enough about him but the symbolism is pretty strong, the connection to ancient Egypt and all. And apparently he had talked about allying with Techno. That was a VERY recent development, though. Doesn't seem like a lot of time for him and Techno to get to know each other. Also Foolish was online during the first meeting. That doesn't NECESSARILY mean that it wasn't him, but it is a bit weird for him not to show up.
Hannah: I don't think it's her, despite the connection with roses
Charlie Slimecicle: I mean.... maybe?
Corpse: I know he isn't really much of a character on the server but he's shown up for multiple Tales episodes so who knows.
Ninja: ... I mean it would be funny and the name would be fitting (ninja, silence/secrets, idk)
Other guests: yeah probably not
A possible new player: plausible, I would love the idea, even if it would have less of a narrative effect it would still be a cool reveal for a new server member.
Nobody: I guess yeah, I wouldn't be that shocked if he turned out to just be a running joke
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Observations and discussion- the 11/29 streams
Part 1 George’s stream| Part 2 Tubbo’s stream ( will be linked when it’s done )
George logs onto the SMP because his chat was freaking out about his home.
Dream tells George to not worry and tells him to not look at his now burnt home.
George already heard that Tommy was the one who torched his house from chat but the first SMP member he actually hears it from is Karl.
I don’t remember if Quackity knew it was Tommy or not but when he follows George to his house Quackity never blames Tommy and tries to convince George that it was BBH and Skeppy because of that one sign Tommy (I think) placed. ( Though I think this is most likely because Quackity likes trolling BBH. )
After Quackity leaves the VC Karl immediately starts complaining about Tommy’s actions to George ( and Ranboo but mostly Tommy. ) 
Karl advices George to not fix his house immediately, and tells him to “harp on it”. ( To me this feels like Karl trying to rile George up and get him even angrier at Tommy. )
Continued under the read more
( Karl is an interesting character in this plot. He tends to be overlooked and he’s very aware of that: it annoys him but he also uses it to his advantage. He is both clever and very blatant with his power hungry tendencies: he doesn’t immediately try to obtain the highest levels of power and instead is trying to climb the political latter one step at a time. He’s not at all subtle about it but because he’s Karl and people underestimate him he can get away with it. )
( We we’re all out here going: Fundy betrayal arc, Quackity corruption arc, Tommy villian arc and ended up forgetting about a possible Karl arc lol )
Karl is the one who suggests George talks to Tubbo about Tommy’s behavior and flat out says “Tommy is the vice president I think we need to overthrow him and... I don’t know who the Vice Vice President is but whoever is just needs to step up and become the Vice President... That’s just my opinion though.”
( FYI: Karl pressured Tubbo into naming him vice vice president. )
Karl keeps on attempting to make the V.V.P look better to George who is focusing on rebuilding and doesn’t seem to care about what Karl is saying. Karl also wants George to leave the mess as is to provide proof for Tubbo but George once again ignores him.
They join VC5 but Tubbo gets overwhelmed by all the talking and moves into VC6 with Quackity.
Karl informs George about Dream’s wall and speculates that Dream did it for George.
The King flat out admits that he doesn’t understand politics ( lol )
George initially agrees with the wall but Karl keeps on pushing for a change in power instead.
Tommy joins and George accuses him, Tommy denies the claim but Karl doesn’t believe him. When George considers that Tommy might be telling the truth Karl says that Tommy is lying.
“What do I get out of lying to you George?” ( Now Karl isn’t lying to George but I find this line interesting because it’s VERY clear what Karl could get and has been pushing for this whole conversation. )
Karl hits the nail half on the head. “Listen, here’s what it is. It’s two people that are just obsessed with power: Tommy and Dream... They are using the ashes of your house as a political statement.”
( Now I say half because Tommy isn’t interested in political gain or political control, he just wants his discs back... now Dream. I was actually writing a draft about this but never finished so I’m just gonna say my own thoughts here: Dream has been looking for an opportunity to make his move and Tommy attacking George, the king of the SMP, was exactly what he needed. He could’ve just punished Tommy but instead he targeted all of L’manberg because he knew that 1.) they are in not in ANY position to fight back against him right now and 2.) Tommy would face major consequence for what was essentially a small prank that was fixed in like less then 10 minutes. To quote Tommy “It was the perfect crime.” )
( Also no one confronted Dream about him burning Manifold Land and that upsets me! >:( Jack Manifold deserves better!!! )
George travels to L’Manburg and finds Dream. Dream informs George that it was Tommy who burned George’s home and since George is the King it would be considered a very big offense. So Dream decided to make his move and boarded up L’manburg to pressure Tubbo and the rest of the cabinet into punishing Tommy. Karl agrees with the idea of punishing Tommy.
Dream tells George not to worry about it again, George asks Dream where he got all the obsidian from and Dream refuses to give a straight answer aside from “Not from creative mode.” ( I��m pretty sure Dream took it from Fundy... interesting that he doesn’t want George to know about that. Does George even know that Fundy is engaged with Dream? )
Dream continues to try and keep George out of the situation meanwhile Karl switches his target over to Dream asking if Tommy should step down as VP to which Dream agrees but also adds that it isn’t enough. Karl also asks if the V.V.P should step up and become VP to which Dream shrugs “ I guess...”, Karl latches onto this as his official endorsement and runs off.
( I’ll talk more about this later but I when I watching Tubbo’s stream I got this overwhelming feeling that Dream is trying to separate Tommy and Tubbo or at least drive a wedge in their bond. )
George expresses concern that the wall wont be enough, Dream once again stresses that he is handling the situation. Dream says “Do you see how much I’ve already done for you... trust me.” and leaves shortly after it. ( It almost feels like a parent talking to a child; a bit of a patronizing energy from Dream to George. Dream wants George to stay neutral and stay out of conflict but recently it seems like George has been wanting to get more involved- just a tiny bit. )
George however stills feels uncertain about the wall, Karl argues that it’s a step in the right direction “it sets up a precedent.” and while George agrees he still doesn’t see how it’ll help in the long run while Karl continues to drag Tommy.
George and Karl join the L’manbergian VC and they argue for a bit before the cabinet move to a new VC without George... and Karl which infuriates him.
Karl vents his frustrations to George about being treated like a second class citizen despite his status as a member of the government.
Karl sulks and George legitimately feels bad for him.
Dream whispers to George to get out of the borders, George asks if Karl should come with them and if he’s gonna hurt the L’manburgians. Dream just says for George to stay away from the conflict and remain neutral
( I saw someone else bring this up before but Dream seems to stick around ‘neutral’ people: George being the obvious one, Callahan being appointed the royal squire, that one time he told Purpled of all people to stay away from Manberg before the war, and last night when Dream was trailing after Puffy who has recently been feeling conflicted about her place in the SMP. I can’t tell how much of it is Dream genuinely caring and how much of it is just him wanting easy people to control and use. )
Karl talks about going “back to the grind” and George, somewhat cautiously, says that Karl should “just get out of here.” ( here being L’manberg )
George gets out of L’manberg but quickly hops back in to watch the discussion between the cabinet members but since he can’t hear anything he leaves- not wanting anything to do with a possible war.
( Which is probably what Dream wants George to do- stay out of it and let Dream handle it. )
Karl continues to vent about not being respected and George sympathetically listens
George stumbles upon the L’mantree, this prompts Karl to say “I’m not telling you to, because I’m the vice vice president and the only reason I’m letting this slip is because they’re being mean to me,... but that tree is very important to them I’m just saying.”
George comments about how interesting it would be if something were to happen to that tree. Karl eggs George on to do something but George gets distracted by Dream.
Karl gives George 24 blocks of obsidian, Karl continues to talk about how disrespectful it was of the others to not include him in the meeting.
Karl joins their call, promising to recount anything to George. George calls Karl his little spy.
( funny little moment: George kidnaps a L’manberg salmon and drops it on Quackity’s head. Your honor they are brothers! )
George joins the VC with the others: they discuss George’s home and if Tommy is guilty.
Dream and Tubbo go to talk in private.
George listens as the other cabinet members beg for Tommy to just tell the truth.
They all start leaving the call until it’s just George and Karl again
Interestingly Karl brings up supporting the idea of Quackity being VP in place of Tommy ( with Karl perhaps aware that because of the lack of respect the others have for him trying to make Quackity the VP instead would be more realistic )
George and Karl continue to bond over disliking Tommy.
Karl joins a VC and George soon follows but they’re immediately told by Tubbo to leave, this just frustrates them even more.
“I’m peeved George.” 
Karl encourages George to read his chat, who are telling George to burn down the tree.
George finds the ingredients to make a flint and steel in a nearby chest ( I don’t know if it was just a coincidence or if Dream or Karl placed those items in there. )
George decides against burning the tree and instead takes some of it hostage.
George and Karl are asked to join the VC and they all travel to the courthouse
I’ll cover the court stuff in more detail when I watch Tubbo and Tommy’s streams because it concerns them more and I don’t want to make this TOO long.
George listens as the cabinet continues to argue along the way, Niki and Ranboo join.
Pretty much everyone is vocally against Tommy, except for Ranboo who is mostly keeping to himself
George blocks tommy off with his obsidian. Karl and George play dumb about where the obsidian came from ( Though Karl might not have realized it was George who placed it or forgot that he gave him those blocks )
George jokes about Tommy already being done for with Quackity as his lawyer ( Your honor!! They are brothers!!)
Niki immediately tries to defend Ranboo when George brings up Chats claim of Ranboo being involved with the house burning. ( Sibling moment Pog <3 )
Tommy also defends Ranboo, and Tommy keeps defending him even after admitting to the crime.
( I’ll talk more about interesting Tommy stuff I noticed when I watch his stream )
Niki and Tommy vouch for Ranboo’s innocence and since Ranboo’s memory is apparently very spotty they all decide to let him go, except for George who wants them to review the footage ( Tommy’s vod I presume ) to see if Ran is truly innocent but George is ignored.
George tags along after the trial while the L’manberg cabinet continues their discussion.
George listens as Tommy talks about his goals to piss off Dream until he gets his discs back, the rest of the cabinet argue that his actions are irresponsible since as a member of the Government he represents all of L’manberg ( Though something tells me that even if Tommy wasn’t VP Dream, opportunist and conniver he is, still would’ve tried to make Tommy burning George’s house into a big deal since Tommy is still a L’manberg citizen. )
Dream shows up and Tommy chases after him, everyone follows in a panic.
Karl confronts Ranboo about him helping Tommy burn George’s cottage but let’s him off easy and tells Ran to apologize to George.
Ranboo apologizes even though he can’t remember doing it ( allegedly )
Niki is on Ranboo’s defense, she blames Tommy for being a bad influence on Ran.
Ranboo says “I never said that I couldn’t remember any of it- I just said that I have bad short term memory... “ he also tells George that the fire was an accident and that neither him or Tommy meant for it to spread.
Ranboo does also confirm that Tommy stole stuff and Ranboo did too but Ran put the stuff he stole back because he felt bad.
Ran says that he’s not good at standing up to people and George forgives him but George still wants his stuff back- Ranboo promises to try and help.
Ranboo questions the construction of the walls just because George’s house was burned.
George decides to interrogate Tommy and joins their call, he hears the cabinet argue about the discs ( I’ll cover this more in another post )
( This is when Tommy’s mom tells him about the dishes LOL )
Sapnap joins in confused and George tells him what happened alongside Karl.
Sapnap officially declares himself one of Gogy’s knights. For now George asks Sapnap to keep an eye on Tommy.
Sapnap gets anxious when Tommy and the rest start punching each other ( in reality they’re doing a handshake ) and protectively gets in front of Karl and George
“Dream’s not here, so I gotta protect you guys!” ( Just a nice little moment)
The cabinet go back into the Camarvan, the others watch from the top of the van. Ranboo and Niki decide to respect their privacy.
Sapnap is vocally on George’s side and against L’manberg
“These L’manbergians George, they should’ve learner their lesson the first time when we dealt with them.”
Niki takes offense to this
Karl reveals why he was on Schlatt’s side during the war “ I didn’t feel welcomed...” ( Interesting!! Not feeling welcomed was what caused Quackity to create Swag2020 and later join Schlatt!!!!!!)
Sapnap agrees that the L’manbergians don’t make people feel welcomed. Karl adds that even as vice vice president he still doesn’t feel welcomed since he’s not included in the meetings, Niki agrees that it’s pretty rude of them to do that to Karl.
( This might be important later on: Last night Puffy considered joining Dream but she doesn’t want to turn against Niki but Puffy might try to convince her to join Dream’s side- but I don’t think Niki would go without Ranboo and he needs to be a citizen to run in the next election.)
George and Sapnap agree that it’s wrong of them to not include Karl
Sapnap criticizes Tubbo for not keeping his people in check
Niki doesn’t defend Tubbo, instead she brings up how Ranboo is running for the next election ( interesting!!!!)
Sapnap calls Karl their “ambassador”
George wants to help Karl break down some of the walls around party island but decides to not get involved- Sapnap agrees once again brining up how the king mustn’t get involved and neither can Sapnap as a royal knight.
“I’m the kings right hand man- one of his right hand men. One of the knights, I represent the king.”
George warns Karl about Dream having the walls be in specific places for a reason and gets him to stop, the two are about to listen to some music before Dream whispers for George to come over to him.
Dream gives George the fish Quackity took for his pond in exchange for the parts of the L’mantree he took. At first George questions giving back the leaves but does so.
( In Tubbo’s stream I saw him give the pieces back to the L’manbergians as a show of good faith, but too me this rings more of Dream trying to make himself seem like a good guy to the other L’manbergians while he tries to make Tommy look worse. )
George goes back home to return his fish
Tommy gets blamed for damage done to Karl’s walkway ( I don’t know if he did that )
( George hears a Minecraft cat meow and meows back at it????? )
Tommy asks George for some leather and to two have a little spat, Tommy also remarks about how he hoped that him and Sapnap would be on better terms after Mars but it seems that ship has sailed- Sapnap is loyal to George first and foremost.
Karl’s loyalty to L’manberg has been deeply shaken, Sapnap apologizes to him.
George see’s the rebuilt L’mantree.
George and Sapnap try to cheer up Karl, encouraging his growing negative feelings towards L’manburg.
Quackity is concerned and joins the call after Karl drowns himself three times.
George and Sapnap take Karl back to his house and try to cheer him up with help from Quackity but Karl tries to drown himself again until George orders him as king to stop, threatening to never “pop-off” with him again if he keeps drowning himself
The group decide to have a serious conversation at party island
They all climb into the tree house to support Karl
Quackity promises to talk to Tubbo about Karl getting ignored.
Quackity mistakenly thinks that Karl kissed George (unless he’s talking about a different situation idk ). Quackity then hits George and the two start fighting before George orders Sapnap to get Quackity out of there.
Sapnap draws his bow ordering Quackity to leave while Karl begs them to stop fighting. Things get tense between the trio and Quackity asks if Sapnap still loves him. Sapnap says he does and that this is just a formality before George shoves him out of the tree accidentally killing Quackity.
Quackity says “he understands” to Karl and leaves.
( Damn, Gogy out here destroying relationships left and right! /lh )
Quackity comes back for his things and is asked to rejoin VC
More relationship drama ensues: Quackity is upset at Karl for not standing up for him when their other fiancé, Sapnap, pulled a bow on Quackity. Karl claims that he didn’t just stand there but Quackity moves on to Sapnap, asking for them to just leave Karl. George is confused.
Quackity asks for his “yeezys” back from Karl but George takes them, promising to give them back so long as Karl stops drowning himself
Karl says that’s he’s gonna be fine since Quackity promised to talk to Tubbo, the trio decide to make up to “ not make their wedding awkward”
Hbomb joins and George gives the boots back
(Sapnap clearly cares about both Karl and Quackity but in the end of the day his duties as a royal knight come first- things might get messy if another war starts up. )
( Edit: Addition to the above point, Quackity and Sapnap actually bring this up during Sapnaps 11/30 stream and my point is kind of reaffirmed but not quite in the way I expected. Sapnap listened to George because George is the king and he’s already seen what happens when you disobey the king; it’s certainly fear over respect in this case. He quickly shifts the topic to Karl after this- revealing that, while he still loves Karl, Sapnap views Karl as the “3rd wheel” of their relationship. Quackity basically agrees with this. Ouch. )
Alright back to serious stuff: George, Sapnap, and Karl speculate about what’s going to happen next. George still hasn’t gotten the stuff Tommy took from him back.
Hbomb suggests that George looks through Tommy’s stuff and see if any of his stolen goods are there, George agrees and goes but Sapnap has to leave, he tells George to be safe.
since George doesn’t remember what exactly Tommy took from him he decides to just take what he wants ( Hbomb noting about how that’s just the way this server works lol )
George takes useful stuff from Tommy, chat freaks out about how this could break George’s neutrality and Karl later asks if George was committing war crimes via stealing: George denies this.
Later George joins the VC with Tubbo and they start talking about making a chess tournament.
Some more little humorous moments happen- nothing really plot related I think. George plays chess with Fundy, Karl tries to make a rollercoaster in Philza’s house since he got rid of the school, a global warming arc is jokingly discussed, George tries to enforce some rules as king ( things like flight licenses, and shop permits. Nothing serious), I think George and Karl kiss in the kissing booth ( hard to tell with Minecraft; but George- I know it’s hard but please stop being such a darn homewrecker!! /Joking )
Also Jack briefly logs on but I don’t think he noticed the destruction to Manifold land yet ( He most definitely noticed during  Fundy’s stream today and is pissed )
Karl attacks Maid!Hbomb in church prime
George asks Hbomb to keep an eye Tommy, Hbomb continues to do cat maid things~ to George’s dismay
( George has never watched ATLA wtf )
Punz joins and George tells him about what happened. 
Later Punz confirms that he is one of George’s knights.
George considering granting Punz a flight license so long as he serves under him.
Punz comments on L’manburg’s loss in territory, George says it’s justified.
George, Punz, and Hbomb notice an odd cobblestone bridge structure in that starts around Hutt’s pizza and ends over L’manburg. Punz investigates it with the others. It ends right above the little town square area, with the Technoblade wanted posters.
Punz and George speculate the importance of the bridge and find out it’s a good ledge for jumping into a pool of water in the nation.
After a few awkward moments with Maid!Hbomb George and him considering making a deal: George would get one of Hbomb’s Pigstep discs in turn for renting a room out to Hbomb in George’s cottage. Nothing is set in stone yet and George decides to end his stream.
And that's about it! Thanks for reading!! I’ll try to cover the other streams ASAP.
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darealsaltysam · 3 years
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HEY GUYS WHAT ABOUT A DREAM SMP SPIES ARE FOREVER AU???
(before I even get into it please note we're removing ALL romantic plots – that means Curt and Owen having a relationship, the whole misunderstanding between Tatiana and Curt and the subplot with Barb having a crush on Curt. Everything in this au is PURELY PLATONIC)
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first off, the setting;
we're removing the au completely from the cold war setting and instead putting it in an alternate dream smp timeline type of place – with some things changed. (this also means that there's no nazis in this since uh.... it would be strange to take a character and say “you can be the nazi :)” LMAO.all actual countries and their politics are completely removed from here)
l'manberg, the antarctic empire, the greater dream smp and the eggpire/badlands (sort of merging them into one in this au) all exist at the same time, with some changes to who's allied to which faction and how they function.
currently, l'manberg and the antractic empire are in a state somewhat mirroring a cold war – at the verge of firing at each other, but holding back and constantly ready to attack the other. In the center of it all, the greater dream smp has just been settled and is trying to gain power, meanwhile a fallen empire, known as the eggpire, is trying to rebuild after losing power formerly
the eyes of the whole world are on king eret and his son, prince fundy – and every nation is attempting to seize power through both of them. so that's the setting, basically
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secondly, the characters:
first the obvious out of the way – curt and owen go to schlatt and wilbur. (AGAIN, REMINDING EVERYONE ALL ROMANTIC PLOTS ARE COMPLETELY REMOVED. THIS IS STRICTLY PLATONIC). They're both spies for l'manberg and during a failed mission, schlatt “died” because of a mistake made by wilbur and he stops spying all together for four years because of it. He comes back four years later and your usual storyline follows.
Tatiana is replaced by techno – formerly an assassin for the antarctic empire who left his family behind to protect them, trained from since he was around four to be the perfect killer. Again, all romantic plots removed and apart from that the usual storyline follows.
The deadliest man alive is “dream” - and the man behind the mask is actually schlatt, same as it was in the canon. He always has his mask completely down, which leaves his identity completely unknown to everyone around him.
Instead of brians usual character *cough cough* we have bad with the eggpire! Theyre side villains and they want to take charge of the greater dream smp through kidnapping fundy same as the original story, and hire dream to help. And, same as canon, they of course fail.
Cynthia is replaced by phil, since, yknow. She literally says curt is like “a son” to her. If that aint phil I dont know who else.
Barb (once more, without any romantic plotlines) is instead niki – who wants to support l'manberg with her tech as best as she can. This is the pre-villain arc sweetheart niki – as superior as villain niki is, this one fits more-
and susan is ranboo. Because. Just imagine ranboo doing the little “you gotta!” back up vocals during “eyes on the prize I”. just,,, enderman boy,,, helping phil,,,
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other smaller characters are;
sergio – connor, the scammer pants 
manvanger borshtit – quackity, because he'd make a great reporter at the big ball with all the drama
the singer in the opening – minx? Not sure about this one, but she has the girl boss energy for it
mrs mega – unsure, but could be kristen if you wanna go with the sleepy boys lore, or maybe change that section completely and instead of coming home to his mother all wilbur finds is tommy being home alone and chaotic as per usual. Remove the romantic sub plot thing here completely of course and instead tommy starts admiring techno and being all irritating about how he'd wish HIM to be his cool older brother
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song/plot changes: 
the opening is pretty much the same, just remove any foreshadowing of owen's and curt's relationship and make it purely platonic. The way schlatt died could probably be made a lot more serious somehow, considering the source (im still not over the fucking banana peel, tcb)
four years later wilbur comes back to spying at phil's request, trying to stop a deal between connor and dream, which is promptly interrupted by techno, who he assumes to be a spy from the antarctic empire. Coming back to Phil he gets told off and then told to follow techno to where he is said to be heading, a casino somewhere in l'manberg
now instead of doing that whole seductive female spy thing the original did we could have a far cooler plotline where techno convinces wilbur to come along with him to the trap in the hotel by revealing he knows a lot more about him than he thought (maybe some sleepy boys family type stuff could be slightly referenced here?) and the usual scene follows
the eggpire reveals themselves and their plans, with dream and techno on their side, but following bad turning on techno and threatening his family techno once more switches sides and helps wilbur escape from dream. The two get out of there and start heading to the big party being held by king eret for political reasons and here the prince fundy plot comes in.
the party happens same as canon, with everything that follows. In the end, niki, techno, ranboo and wilbur all team up to take down schlatt once he reveals himself. The plot ends same as canon here – and it's all just as sad :(((
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yeah but anyway that's my overly complicated au that I might snap one day and just write
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More Leverage/DSMP because I’m stressed and this AU is like half the worms in my brain that arent if history is dead and gone
At some point, Tommy gets kidnapped. 
Maybe it’s a mark, who caught on and grabbed the scrawniest one he saw, which, to be fair, Tommy might be tall but he is scrawny and ultimately a hacker. 
Maybe it’s an old enemy of Tommy’s. 
Maybe Tommy just has shitty, shitty luck and gets kidnapped by someone who has no idea who he is but still manages to ruin/destroy all his tech so no one can track him and he can’t hack anything.
Regardless, Tommy is kidnapped and SBI is freaking out because it takes them several hours to realize he is gone and they have no idea where he went. 
Unfortunately, none of them are particularly good with technology and Tommy has encrypted everything to hell and back so none of them can even really get into his stuff. *
Phil remembers Tommy saying that Sam taught him lots of things about Technology, so he immediately goes over there to retrieve Sam, consequences, and father figure fight be damned. 
Sam, of course, has no idea anything is wrong until Phil is standing on his doorstep, looking more than a little panicked. 
Phil pretty much just says that Tommy is in trouble and that they need Sam’s help, and doesn’t explain much, Sam and Phil argue a bit, but when they arrive Tubbo snaps and tells them all to shut up bc it’s for Tommy. 
Unfortunately, Sam can’t get into Tommy’s systems because it’s far beyond his own abilities since he only knows regular person coding. At this point he steps out, trying to process that Tommy is missing (he still doesn’t exactly know that SBI are criminals) and calls Puffy to tell her. 
Puffy immediately asks to speak to Phil and offers to call Dream (and therefore Quackity) to help them out. 
Phil of course accepts, and essentially all these criminals are working together to save Tommy. 
Eventually, Quackity locates him, and Sam demands to go with them, and eventually, they relent but tell him to stay in the car. Wilbur and Tubbo stay behind in case he needs medical treatment. 
Sam watched Techno and Phil just… annihilate men. 
Tommy is like, mostly fine. 
Honestly, he’s doing better than everyone else tbh because he was sure that someone would come for him or he’d get out. He’s only a little dehydrated and has some minor injuries. 
(or if I’m feeling angsty, Tommy is badly injured and delirious, and is happy to see both Sam and Phil, calling Phil Dadza and Sam Dad.  Him just, accepting the affection for once, with menial protests since he’d only half-conscious, and the whole crew just hovering) 
Sam, over the course of all this, figures out something definitely illegal is going on, but also, when he sees the fear in all their eyes on Tommy’s behalf he accepts that they might be good for Tommy. 
SBI also accepts that Sam really cares about Tommy. 
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junoisnotme · 3 years
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/rp and /dsmp, ok so im 3 days late but I think thats ok so Tommy and Techno kidnapped Connor and bargained his safety in return for Technoblade’s weapons specifically his rocket launcher and his pickaxe. Tommy and Techno run in with Dream and Tommy finally stands up to Dream and breaks out of Dream’s metaphorical chains. Im so proud of him but Dream tries one more time to get Tommy back under his manipulation and bring him back to his place where he can never leave again but Techno stands up for Tommy basically saying “HE’S MY THESEUS GET YOUR OWN” but my hopes of a protective older brother Techno it’s all crushed by “unless you wanna cash in on that favor” but Dream says that he has something else planned for that later and lets Tommy and Techno leave. Tommy is finally free from Dream’s clutches and to represent this instead of looking down at lava ominously by Dream’s doing he jumps right into the lava without a second thought. Now it’s theories and thoughts time, a lot of people say that Techno is also manipulating Tommy like how Dream manipulated him because he’s trying to convince Tommy that Tubbo is bad but in reality Techno is only telling that to Tommy because that’s what he truely believes, he knows that exileing your friend and never visiting them once is not something a friend would do and it seems like Techno really cares about Tommy because Tommy in Logshire (or however you spell it) would always log on drowning in water and sometimes does die in that water and he knows that Tommy reallwants his discs back thus Technoblade gave Tommy a turtle shell helmet with respiration 3 on it so that he wouldn’t drown anymore and he also gave him Technoblade’s Canon Disc as a way of making him feel better not to mention standing up for him when they encountered Dream. I think that Tommy is going to be put into the prison for plot reasons because who has a bunch of withers that can easily break through obsidian ya thats right Technoblade I think that Technoblade is going to break Tommy out of prison but I think that the favor is going to be used to save Dream when everyone starts to hate him or maybe to save Dream at the festival and btw i have no clue as to what might happen at the festival but i have some idea so Techno and Tommy are going to invade L’Manburg with the hound army, Ranboo is probably going to loss a canon life, and I think Dream is going to go into hiding on the day of the festival for maybe revealing something that will make everyone hate him or do something to make everyone hate him. (just a note again i only watch TommyInit, Technoblade, Wilbur and occasionally Quackity when it comes to watching SMP stuff) { Ok apparently tumblr is being rude but here is my comment back for your reply @laellia I will add in my input and thoughts on the favor thing I also think it was more challenging kinda tone is seemingly saying to Dream "hey unless you wanna loss the only leverage you have on me for something as usless as this im not going to give Tommy up" i fully 100% agree with that but I still think that the favor is going to be used for something because Techno is still leaning on it and it keeps getting mentioned so it probably is going to be used in the lore unless they wanna do some sort of useless red herring to throw us off but from what i can tell thats not really Techno's writing style (i have some sort of ultra analysis where i can tell someone's writing style its weird dont ask) i think i implied it in a previous ted talk of mine but i do fully agree with you! }
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bonesandthebees · 1 year
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Also, I think I’ve figured out the theme for Glass divine. There’s still elements of trust like in Stars, mainly that trust doesn’t make sense because neither Tommy nor Wilbur have a reason to trust the other, yet they do. As always with your works it’s about how complicated morality is and how it isn’t black and white. But the big one for Glass Devine is control and agency.
Glass!Wilbur is a character who constantly gets striped of his agency by the people around him and in turn believes he doesn’t have any at all. Possibly a coping mechanism to deal with the fact that he has no control, like how not being a person is a coping mechanism to deal with the dehuminasition and all the other, not okay shit he’s getting because it’s fine, he’s not a person anyway. And I got side tracked.
My point is that Wilbur gets stripped of his agency when he becomes the Pythia because he gets no choice in the matter. Tommy likes to think that the Deathlings are better than the people at the palace because and I quote [“We never said someone has to give up their name to serve Kristin, so I think we’ve got you beat there.”] It’s the us vs. them and what’s normalised again. But the Deathlings also stripped Wilbur of his agency (of which he already had very little) by kidnapping him. So we get this very weird situation where both sides might think they have the moral high ground, when neither do.
Then there’s the control part. Wilbur has always had very little control over his life. He’s also had very little control in general because Schlatt doesn’t listen to him. Then he gets kidnapped and has even less control. And now he doesn’t even know what the future holds. Side note: He thinks that Clara not sending him vision and thus not showing him the future is a punishment.
Then there’s Wilbur’s control inside the temple. He’s constantly trying (and failing) to get more control. He tries to use Clara and his position as her vessel to try and get people to do what he wants (which is getting him out of there). He tries to use it on Quackity too. He’s trying to find control in learning the limits by dropping the food. He thinks it will make them angry, which is a bad idea but he chooses what little semblance of control he can get over the anger he would receive and then nothing happens.
And then this chapter Tommy again takes that control away by going behind his back and finding him name. Tommy is trying to help. He means well. He’s pinpointed a lot of the issues, but I think he’s missed the control thing since he has no way to know, cuz most of that is in Wilbur’s head. The trying to find boundaries can be taken as trying to goat them into hurting him to prove his suspicions were correct. So Tommy has no way to know it’s an issue, but he’s still adding to it. I think that’s the part that icks me. That Wilbur is again being stripped of his control even if Tommy trying to help by doing it because he doesn’t understand the full impact of his decision or the (severity of) the traumahe’s triggering.
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yup, a theme in glass is definitely control/agency. wilbur believes he has none, because it's easier to accept that everything is out of your control and never could've been in your control vs having your own agency stripped from you. he didn't have a choice in becoming the pythia, but then again he also didn't have a choice to stay with the deathlings. while the deathlings have the upper hand of not having a dehumanizing institution at their core, they're not the great moral high ground tommy is trying to make them out to be.
wilbur is struggling to find any sense of control so he can feel like he's not totally spiraling. his only upper hand is his position with Clara, so of course he tries to use her name any chance he gets. and the more he tests them, the more control he feels he has.
I get what you're saying with tommy wrenching control again and how it makes you feel icky, which is fair! tommy isn't handling this situation properly! but like you said he has no way of knowing that. the thing is though that again, they were making literally no progress with how things were going. the control thing is an issue, but it's more of a symptom of the dehumanization issue as a whole. so in order to help with those problems, tommy has to target the dehumanization. that's the root. it's unfortunate, but helping a victim of severe religious brainwashing isn't an easy task.
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