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#CHARLIE THOUGHTS SO MANY
sophfandoms53 · 8 months
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BB coming back tonight, Hazbin Hotel streaming announcement and date with new footage, Sonic Frontiers update 3 also tonight AND we got gameplay footage???
Oh i am overwhelmed today LMAO
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spoopy-arcade · 7 months
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So are we going to agree that Vanessa is the "Michael Afton" in the movie?? I mean. IT'S ALL THERE
And I can't believe I didn't think about this, but when Vanessa confronts William, he also says "Help me clean up the mess that YOU created"
HM?????
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I ADORE your design for Charlie. It’s so adorable!!!!!!
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I’m so glad y’all loved her design!!
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digitalmyyth · 1 month
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Evil awful women and the blond guy who hangs out with them (he is also evil and awful)
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beevean · 4 months
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Continuing my quest on finding good Charlastor content and I keep having Thoughts :)
because most of said content was, understandably, made between the pilot and the beginning of the actual show. And it's not only noticeable by the insistence of having Charlie and Alastor bond through dancing (since in the pilot that's the scene where the two seem to be having genuinely fun with each other), but also because the "creepiest" works (for lack of a better term) do indeed paint Alastor as Charlie's puppeteer, as the one who will push her to the dark side and unlock her demonic potential.
Part of this is still canon. There's all the heavy handed manipulations in ep. 5 where he presents himself as a better father figure than Lucifer and as the only one Charlie should love and trust; and also... well, the everything in the scene in ep. 7 where he finally manages to strike a deal with her lmao.
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(you sure are unusually touchy with her :^) )
And this damning line:
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Yes, Alastor desperately wants to have a hold on Charlie's mind if not heart. Even after he admitted in the pilot that he doesn't believe in her cause, he wants her to see him as a trusty mentor. And while the pilot is outdated in certain aspects, I can almost see traces of this... possessiveness? in the way he kept pushing Vaggie away: he clearly doesn't like anyone threatening his authority, and in that moment, Vaggie and her mistrust were an obstacle in his objective to ingratiate himself with the Princess of Hell.
I also noticed that Alastor is willing to make deals that don't require owning a soul: he cares about being the one in control even if he doesn't gain anything material. He struck a little "deal" with Vaggie just to do things his way, and he struck a more serious (but still not soul-binding) deal with Charlie so that she could owe him one favor. Alastor very much cares about having the upper hand in any situation, even the smallest one.
But then ep. 8 came along. And we get the confirmation that Alastor is bound by a deal. He hates it. It "clips his wings". He clearly blames this deal for limiting his freedom and causing him to nearly die for the sake of his "friends".
Alastor may be more of a puppet than Charlie is, at the moment.
And if the theory that this deal is what is forcing Alastor to protect the hotel... Charlie may be the one holding the strings, without even knowing it. While Charlie is not the one who directly owns Alastor's soul, she might have power over him.
It doesn't help that Alastor, as much of a self-serving liar he is, really seems to like Charlie...
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(He doesn't need to offer her his precious mic that seems to be the source of most of his power. She already owes him a favor, and was shown comfortable enough to talk to him about her personal issues. This is Alastor showing his trust in Charlie.)
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(again, he doesn't need to say this to Rosie, who clearly thinks the world of him)
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(yes, this is about the entire hotel. But my point still stands that it's more earnest than anything we usually see from him)
So now we have a puppet in the hands of an unknowing, kind puppeteer that he actually be mildly fond of... and he wants out of every constraint possible because he wants to pull the strings, damn it all! And he will do anything to gain mental leverage on the one he's been forced to serve!
And I think this is what makes the dynamic even more interesting than a straightforward "manipulator/victim" :)
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codgod · 7 months
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HAPPY HALLOWEEN ft. the misclick family <3 and gegg as the pumpkin
and here’s some extras :p
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thief-of-eggs · 2 months
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Alastor isn’t one for kisses, he just slowly and lewdly licks the side of Lucifer’s face and walks away as if it’s the most normal interaction to have in the world
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ichiwi · 4 months
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Okay what if during the Hazbin Hotel finale whoever is the main antagonist (Lilith? Eve? Someone else entirely?) is the one who has Alastor chained and they use him to fight against Charlie and the hotel crew. He goes along with it because he wants his freedom and he hopes that is how he gets it.
But it's a delusion, he won't be set free even if he kills them, but he is so desperate for it he had grown hostile to the few people who called him an actual friend and cared for him.
Lucifer almost kills Alastor during the confrontation but Charlie stops him in the last moment. She saw through this charade of selfishness and sees someone who needs help but it too proud to ask for it.
She goes to a almost beaten Al sitting on the ground, panting, and kneels down next to him. His smile is stitched in place but his eyes betray how he feels. She reaches a hand down for him to take and says "You know we still have that deal going, right? Just say the word."
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And he hesitates for a moment, they look at eachother and he knows what she is talking about. He has not yet cashed in the favour from her from the deal they had struck before the last extermination.
She can save him from this if he just swallows his ego and asks for help.
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firefly464 · 7 months
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man. Thinking about Charlie being the one to push so hard for peace. While Cellbit is pushing to win even at the expense of those around him. Something something cellbit isnt even bothering with trying to keep peace. hes disillusioned. He's tried it already and it didn't work.
Meanwhile Charlie has been through the absolute wringer. He lost his daughter he lost his spouse he lost everything. But he was able to work through it because people helped him. He has experience with peace. With community. He knows how powerful it can be.
Cellbit didn't get that in prison.
They're both just working with what they know. And you can really see it here
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peceraynadamas · 23 days
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I'm cooking up some fallenwings drawings that are taking longer than I'd like, so here's a scrap of chaggie and the carmine girls.
I love Odette and Clara, it is such a shame we hardly got to see them or hear them banter at all. Holding out hope for season two once again (sigh). Anyway, I like to think they are very silly behind closed doors. They match by wearing those cursed shirts for pajamas and tease each other lovingly all day. They banter, but they would not hesitate to kick anyone's ass for each other. Had to get Odette with the autism beam because the vibe is definitely there.
Assuming this is a safe space, here's the official pecera smash or pass lol. I meant to put Rosie in hear me out not because she isn't a smash, but because she'd read me to filth beforehand and that would greatly impact the quality of the smash.
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pusangkambing · 1 year
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They're off to go play!
Consider reblogging and not just liking ty ^-^
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il-predestinato · 1 year
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Charles Leclerc chats with Max Verstappen during the team photo at the 2022 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. 🎥: Drive to Survive, Season 5 Episode 10, "End of the Road"
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lifeandtimesoftrying · 4 months
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The overlords’ persuasion, the Morningstar’s power, and what this means for Charlie
Hazbin Hotel's been rotating in my head since the finale and I have capital-t Thoughts about the worldbuilding (and its implications). So!
Hazbin Hotel’s power system is fundamentally divided into two parts: the overlords, whose abilities are fully tied to and determined by their connections with other denizens, and the Morningstars/other Hell-born aristocracy, whose abilities are innate and unchanging. I think this is why Lucifer is incredibly powerful while not really having power, the overlords seem to be running the show, and Charlie’s character has a lot left to come.
(This got pretty long and there are spoilers, so I’m putting it under a cut!)
Lucifer doesn’t have much authority—the meeting to decide the fate of hell is attended by only the overlords, other demons repeatedly dismiss Charlie (often even using her relationship with her dad to do so), and when we do finally meet the King of Hell himself, it’s when he’s engaged in a hobby which he clearly has a lot of free time for. When Charlie needs large numbers of allies, it’s Alastor and Rosie who coordinate to get them for her, and Alastor is terrified of Zestiel but told Lucifer “fuck you” to his face. Lucifer doesn’t have any control over his subjects.
However, he is still incredibly powerful. He and Charlie, whose powers presumably came from him, defeated Adam, and in the finale sequence he conjured the foundation for a whole hotel without any strain.
The overlords function in the exact opposite way: their powers are gained through their various relationships with other people, and can be influenced as such. Most obviously, Carmilla Carmine explicitly tells Vaggie that the best way to fight is for love, but Rosie is powerful because of the ways she can provide for people and gain their loyalty. Alastor’s known to have bought souls to do his bidding, and the Vees are all themed around ways to influence people (pornography, TV, and social media), and at least one of them also has contracts for souls.
“Hell’s Greatest Dad” illustrates both the overlords’ and the aristocracy’s perspectives. Regardless of how authentic Alastor is being in his claims in the song, it can be assumed that he’s doing everything he can to convince Charlie to work with him, and Lucifer is doing the same. However, their approaches are polar opposites.
Lucifer’s persuasion relies on his innate abilities: he calls himself “the big boss of Hell himself,” and says that he can help “with the punch of a pentagram / I wap-bam-boom, alakazam / Usually I charge a sacrificial lamb / But you get the family rate.” This emphasizes both his familial (and unchangeable) tie to Charlie and his inborn abilities, which come up again when he says “there’s no substitute for pure angelic power.”
The reasons that Alastor cites for why he should be chosen are all based in the actions that he’s done for Charlie, and the resulting relationship that they have because of those actions. He emphasizes his consistency (“who’s been here since day one”) and reliability (who’s been faithful as a nun), both of which are good traits for an overlord to have.
I think this contrast is why Mimzy has to show up when she does: there is no way to resolve the argument about whether to choose that which has been built or that which you were born with. And that’s because of Charlie. Charlie’s dad was never mortal, but her mom was. None of the overlords have been called immortal, but many of them are confirmed to have been mortal. A large part of Charlie’s arc in season 1 is her learning how to connect with the people around her and get them to believe in her. She is, in many ways, beginning to function like an overlord would. With one major difference.
We know that Husk used to be an overlord, most likely one of gambling. Gambling is really three things: chance, skill, and being able to read other people without them being able to read you. And from what we know of overlords, getting that status requires all of those traits. Chance and skill exist in any field, but the ability to see past other’s facades without revealing your own hand is incredibly important here, to the point where it’s Alastor’s whole shtick—a smile is a way of staying in control.
But where overlords try to read those around them while keeping their own feelings hidden, Charlie always has her heart on her sleeve. When she goes to cannibal town, Alastor’s advice that she always smile quickly stops working, and only after she’s processed her feelings about Vaggie by talking with Rosie is she able to convince people to follow her.
But this is still only half of what she’s potentially capable of. We haven’t seen her try to battle anyone on her own and win—the closest we got was Valentino, but she quickly backed down from that. Since a second season is scheduled, my bet is that it’ll follow her learning the extent of her innate powers, and how to pair them with her connections to others—after all, she is the only character with both mortal an immortal lineages.
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found--family · 1 year
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said the lesbian about a guy to the "straight" guy
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i-prefer-to-mosey · 4 months
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frothing at the mouth over the last episode of hazbin hotel like oog
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I lied. I don’t like sex. Now put your clothes back on while I explain Shin Soukoku’s development
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