In the grand expanse of the cosmos, where stars flicker with ancient wisdom and galaxies pulse with the heartbeat of creation, there exists a realm where imagination reigns supreme. Within this boundless expanse, there emerged a craftsman named Dave Filoni, a bard whose tales once resonated with the harmonious chords of the Force. In the beginning, his hands sculpted worlds, his words breathed life into characters, and his vision illuminated the darkest corners of a galaxy far, far away.
Oh, how we marveled at his ingenuity! The Clone Wars, his magnum opus, unfolded like an epic poem, each episode a verse in a cosmic ballad. Ahsoka Tano, Anakin Skywalker, and the clones—they danced through his narrative with grace, their stories etched into the very stars. It was Filoni’s storytelling that rekindled the spirit of Star Wars, bringing forth a resurgence of hope among the faithful.
But as the wheel of time turned, a shadow crept over Filoni’s creations. The nefarious specter of greed began to weave its tendrils around the heart of his storytelling. The allure of profit beckoned, whispering promises of wealth and power. And thus, the purity of Filoni’s artistry began to wane, eclipsed by the insatiable hunger of corporate coffers.
We, the ardent admirers of Filoni’s craft, find ourselves in a state of profound lamentation. Where once there was depth, there now lies a barren landscape of shallow plots and hollow characters. The live-action series under Filoni’s stewardship, once hailed as the heralds of a new era, now stand as monuments to avarice. These productions, bereft of the soul that defined his animated triumphs, reek of profit-driven decisions. Substance has been forsaken for spectacle, and intricate storytelling sacrificed upon the altar of easy fan service.
Yet, in the depths of our sorrow, we extend a hesitant hand towards Filoni, seeking to understand the nature of his fall from grace. Is he a captive bard, his creativity held hostage against his will? We theorize, not out of malice, but out of a desperate desire to preserve the belief in his intrinsic brilliance. Could it be that his hands are tied, his creativity stifled under breakneck deadlines and profit-hungry overlords? The very thought chills the heart, for it suggests that the shackles of capitalism have ensnared even the most luminous minds.
And so, until the truth unveils itself, we stand resolute in our condemnation of the avaricious grip of the Disney corporation. The gloved hands of a mouse have become instruments of oppression, throttling the imagination and desecrating the sacred lore we hold dear. The weight of this corporate yoke stifles not only Filoni’s genius but also the collective dreams of fans worldwide.
In the echoes of our discontent, there lingers a glimmer of hope—a hope that one day, Filoni will break free from these chains, that he will once again wield his storytelling prowess with unbridled passion and unwavering dedication. Until then, we raise our voices in defiance, calling for the restoration of creativity, integrity, and the boundless spirit of storytelling that the Star Wars universe deserves.
manifesto anon you genuinely brought my mood up, it's been such a crazy fucking day, sorry I've been delaying answering this but it's always so funny to read your little manifestos they make me giggle
Let me answer your question in simplest terms; Luke was intended to be Force-sensitive from day one and his character built up around that. Sabine's Force-sensitivity is a big fat retcon that overshadows the infinitely more interesting aspects of her character.
1. Did ANY of you people hear Dave Filoni ever say Sabine WASN'T a Force sensitive? Maybe he always planned for her to be a Jedi? Where is the interview that said he DIDN'T plan it?
2. Intended? Like the way Leia was set up as the sister of Luke AND then set up as a Force user from EP 1? Like Vader was set up as Luke's dad in EP 1 too?
3. I would like SW fans to stop rewriting history, and stop pretending as if George Lucas had a perfect plan for the SW universe that DIDN'T change after the first movie & every few years after that.
4. There is enough plausible/fan wrangling theorising material from "Rebels" to make it work. I love how SW fans can bend backwards to prove some obscure fan/head canon with literally a flash of a pic or some one liner, or a look at a character etc. But don't wanna work with Kanan & Hera talking about Sabine being stubborn and blocked in CANON while training how to use the dark sabre with JEDI fundamentals. But dude, let's theorise ALL the people that are under the mask of whatever character.
5. Personal preference - I like Sabine as a Mandalorian Jedi. I like the fact it took her years to resolve the conflict of her guilt, her heritage, trauma etc. And once again, Mandalorian fucking Jedi - fucking awesome. And it is curious to me you talk about the "interesting aspects" of her character but name none of them. As if being a Force user somehow removes all those "interesting aspects", makes them somehow less.
Here, let me help you list those aspects, and how being a Force user negates nor overshadows NONE of those aspects:
She was a child genius who developed a weapon that killed her own people, she had to live with that guilt & trauma.
She is a Mandalorian who wanted to express herself in a different way - her art.
She ran from her family, her culture, her homeworld, she abandoned them in their time of need. That's a tonne of fucking guilt.
Her Mandalorian upbringing ingrained in her certain ideas about the Jedi, most likely not positively. Something she had to resolve & work through. And DEFINITELY became a block in her training to becoming a Jedi. In other word - CONFLICT that makes her so much more interesting.
Her guilt over not being able to save Kanan, compounded by letting Ezra walk into certain death.
Her guilt and trauma over her family and her people killed on Mandalore, and not being able to save them.
Her SENSE of inadequacy she can't compare to Ezra in the Force, can't compare to the thousands of youngling who became Jedi.
Her sense of being a DISAPPOINTMENT to Ahsoka, to Hera, to the fact she can't find Ezra.
All of these interesting aspects of her character are STILL THERE in her character, it LITERALLY powers the motivations and choices she makes in the show. She is just now also a fucking Jedi Padawan to Ahsoka fucking Tano.
But sure, her Force ability overshadows her "interesting aspects", and not like it make her so much more fucking interesting and awesome.
ETA: Also, thank you anon, I honestly didn't think I loved Sabine as much as I did till I started thinking about your question. She is truly awesome.
A true inspiration. Honestly what ALL Mando Jedi should be moving forward. Also, her immaculate makeup, and the colour decal on her armour is bitchin'. I aim to be like her - enraging people with my awesome.
You know I make fun of Dave Filoni a lot, but I’ve really got to hand it to him. The way he made sure the Darksaber was quickly passed back to Bo-Katan as soon as someone else got their hands on it and than having it be destroyed was a flash of strategic genius on his part.
He not only shut down the possibility of Din becoming leader instead of Bo-Katan, by breaking the Darksaber he made sure there’s no possible avenue through which someone could write about a different character becoming leader. Because he’s removed their ability to legitimately challenge Bo-Katan’s claim.
So now even if someone does try to write a plot about someone else becoming the leader, Dave can just say they’re a usurper and have Bo-Katan stage her fourth “claiming her rightful throne” plot. Really, I’ve got to hand it to him. Getting rid of the mere possibility of someone being able to challenge Bo-Katan’s rule in the future is so petty it’s actually kind of brilliant.
I rewatched Twilight of the Apprentice and I am absolutely fucking destroyed. It just hit different the second time around. Kevin Kiner on the score killed it. The raw emotions I felt from beginning to end was just as amazing as the first time.
Is there any canon nugget of information that points to palpatine somehow influencing Barris’ actions in the wrong jedi arc? I just feel like its reaaalllly convenient that this leads of Ahsoka leaving the order and further driving the wedge between Anakin and Obi-Wan thus further isolating Anakin.
Like. I know they had to get Ahsoka out of the way for RotS but. Still.
Not to my knowledge.
And it's worth keeping in mind that Palpatine is verrrry good at improvising.
In The Phantom Menace, he was trying to blockade Naboo and when the Jedi showed up and derailed his plans, he still managed to somehow turn the whole thing to his advantage and get himself elected Supreme Chancellor.
In Attack of the Clones, Obi-Wan finds the clone army. I'm guessing that wasn't part of the plan, now they know about Sifo-Dyas and Tyranus... But events were already in motion, and Obi-Wan's pending execution was the perfect powder-keg to start the Clone War.
My guess is Palpatine sees this whole Ahsoka thing going on and he sends his protégé Tarkin to pounce on it and get Ahsoka expelled, knowing that the Jedi will be cornered into either obeying or committing treason against the Senate... thus, further isolating Anakin from his family.
So it's not just luck, it's Palpatine being a political genius and turning these situations to his advantage in a blink of an eye, while the Jedi are left playing catch-up.
He's playing 5-D chess, they're playing checkers.
Worth noting, though:
Originally, Ahsoka wasn't gonna leave the Order.
But it seems Dave Filoni figured that, if you have her leave, then that sort of gives us an out for her survival of Order 66.
I’ve heard different things through the years, the Bible says she was supposed to be on her early twenties, in an interview way back in the day it was said she was in her middle/late twenties, Stephen silver says he thinks she is in her 30s and Bob Schooley said in a recent AMA that she was in her late twenties.
The fact she has a fully credential teaching degree points out to her being at least in her Mid twenties, but is the world of Kp where a genius kid graduated college (Wade). So, how old do you think she truly is?
there was a recent post on this topic by @coolcollectorofobservations that was pretty good.
and I've linked to my own post about this many times and they do as well, so I won't link it again.
what I will say however, what I just noticed from your ask...is we all tend to pick and choose what sources we decide to believe on various topics. and this is common in all of fandom, anywhere, not just here in KP land. if we like something we see somewhere, like the series bible, we'll decide to accept it. if we don't like it, we reject it. I used to be an utter stickler for...if it's onscreen, it's canon, and you can't reject it. of course, I break my own rule by refusing to watch Star Trek Generations. (if I don't see Kirk die, he didn't die! I refuse!)
but, some parameters here... if it's onscreen...it's canon. that's the basis I'm going to work from. how fans interpret what's onscreen is up to them. for the sake of this post, I'm going to ignore any of my own...so-and-so said such-and-such in this obscure convention interview, opinions. those aren't canon. plus, we've gotten so many mixed reports from the creators themselves who honestly don't seem to care. on the surface, they seem to have bigger passions than the type of deep fandom experience that people who are into Star Wars for example get into, and we get the same type of passion back from Dave Filoni and others.
all that said.... the only examples we get onscreen?
"Luckily I have my degree in child development to fall back on."
Ron: "Then the teaching thing?"
"Oh, fully credentialed."
also Ron's claim in Clean Slate that she's a "lot older" and Shego's protesting she likes the sun.
the only real evidence we can go on is that credential and college degree. and we have to make some assumptions here. we have to assume this is the USA (easy). we have to assume she progressed through primary/secondary school at a typical pace (easy enough). we have to assume Shego completed her bachelor's degree in four years (also pretty easy - if she was busy with hero work then she could have done her degree in longer than four years, but that goes more toward headcanon assumptions).
to get a teaching credential (more commonly called a certificate nowadays, but called a credential when KP was airing) you must complete at least one year of student teaching/relevant graduate-level classes. also, to keep your credential you have to complete a certain number of years of teaching, being professionally evaluated, and then depending on the school district/state you're in...then it's considered cleared and you don't have to renew for a number of years. but you do have to be actively teaching to keep your credential valid after said period of years expires. this fact lends us to a Shego somewhere in her twenties.
it's starting to get messy. some places allow just anybody to be a substitute. some places require a college degree. some places require a degree and a teaching certificate, just to be a sub. if we look at what was common during the time period KP aired and the decade-ish prior to that, the likely times she would have been getting that credential... we are looking at at least two years after her student teaching year that she was actively in school teaching. at least two years.
okayyy I'm linking it again, read this post for more detail about the credential process, etc.
we also have to remember...to be a sub, she'd have to be fingerprinted. which won't work for a criminal. so, based SOLELY on the canon and agreeable real-world facts, and not headcanon extrapolation or extra-canon comments and rhetoric, we're left with a couple of options.
either she is in fact credentialed, or she's lying. if she IS credentialed, to have completed all the requirements to get one, the absolute bare minimum age she could be in season one is 25. if she somehow finagled her way into that sub position through a bunch of very quick deceit, forgeries, fake fingerprints...that would be impressive. I favor her statement that she is credentialed, but folks are free to headcanon what they wish. I also favor a headcanon that it took her longer to get through school because she was busy with hero-work.
so the long and short of it.... assuming she is telling the truth, which she likely would be under the effects of the reverse polarizer... assuming a typical timeline for her education... bare minimum season 1 age of 25, if we are shooting for youngest possible age. oldest possible can't possibly be determined. personally i think she's late twenties, but that's including headcanon ideas.
I am garden-bug and you can refer to me as such. I love bugs big and small but mostly big (unless I have a microscope handy which I literally don't guys I don't have a microscope). My favourite insects are praying mantids or ants and I have written too many essays that talk about ant symbolism.
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I am a literature student and critical analysis is not my degree it is my lifestyle.
DNI categories and other info is in my bio.
I am multi fandom. I will list fandoms I engage with, my takes and my fics below:
Star Wars
OG Trilogy: Amazing incredible
Prequels: Flawed but culturally relevant
Sequels: 💀💀
The Mandalorian: Seasons 1 & 2 changed my life but none as much as season 3 which I was so appalled by that I spent the summer of 2023 rewriting
Ahsoka: 💀💀
Thrawn 1st 2 trilogies: Literally space Sherlock Holmes I love the Thrawn trilogies (haven't read the original yet I know shock horror but idt I'd cope)
Clone Wars: Very cool, Ahsoka my beloved, going to cause heartbreak and horror by saying that idc about the clones other than Rex so I have 'the clones' filtered out as a tag LMAOOO
Anything not mentioned I either haven't seen, abhorred, or forgot what happened in.
My other takes:
Star Wars is going down an unfortunate route where a lot of the previously established lore and messages are being undermined and misunderstood.
I do not like Dave Filoni's writing or his mando-verse or whatever he's calling it.
Ezra and Thrawn space adventures forever in our hearts 💔
Thrawn is an anti-villain. He’s not morally good but he isn’t evil either. Also people don't seem to be able to appreciate characters as storytelling mechanisms and instead take it personally when someone highlights a character's moral flaws.
Ships:
I wish I could ship Shin x Sabine but I've seen brick walls with more chemistry.
Thranto...
DINLUKE!!!
My Fics:
Mandalorian S3 (+ Ahsoka series rewrite):
Force-school crack fic:
One Piece
I am on WATER SEVEN! I love Franky with my whole life and Iceberg is a beautiful man. Started Dressrosa for Doflamingo and Law and Corazon and skipping through the eps because oh my god the pacing…
Ships
Zolu on the aroace spectrum my beloved 💞💞
Not been convinced by Zosan...
FROBIN!!
Lawlu
Oh my god dofuwani
Other takes:
I LOVE OPLA! It stole my heart. OPLA cast my beloved. So good. Amazing. Even my mum loved it.
Crocodad/Crocomom is real idc
The one piece is real
Death Note
I don't interact with this fandom much because my takes are shaped by my AU so I literally relate to nothing they say.
Ships:
Not a lawlight shipper. Light was mean and evil and L deserved better 11yr old me was distraught and my feelings have never changed.
L x my OC (that's better)
In my AU Near and Mello are raised as siblings so their ship kinda freaks me out.
Idc abt Matt I never even wrote him into my fic (rip).
Mello x Halle my beloved. I love when two bisexuals fall in love.
Other takes:
The manga is better.
The anime deserves a re-adaptation.
Near is my absolute favourite fictional character ever (genuinely do not know why huh) he is so annoying and I adore him.
Mello didn't die what L and my OC saved him.
My Fics:
I wrote this when I was 12 but it is the basis for my AU and deserves all the honorary mentions:
Jujutsu Kaisen
WHAT THE FUCK -
My fics:
Cosy one-shots basically:
Bungou Stray Dogs
Chaos shambled disarray that somehow I enjoy.
Pisses me off but it has its moments.
Ships:
Sokoku is my all time absolute favourite ship ever of all time.
My fics:
Dazai and Chuuya get hit by a tsunami oh no they have to face their tumultuous feelings for each other (spiral in all the mental-health ways) and accidentally adopt/rescue a small child:
Ninjago
JUMP UP KICK BACK WHIP AORUND AN D SHPIN -
I love Ninjago. Lloyd my beloved. Zane is me fr.
Ships:
Jaya
Zane/Pixal
Kai/Skylor
Llorumi is a NO Harumi is an irredeemable monster and you cannot convince me otherwise. My sweet Lloyd deserves better.
I don't ship any of the ninja with each other ESPECIALLY not with Lloyd the age thing is a mess.
Images used in the ninjago memes are from Pinterest and saved to this board under the ‘I’m gonna make memes’ section: https://pin.it/4rN3gIj
I’m pretty sure that ep 3 of the mandalorian didn’t trend on tumblr while the others did. I only watched the Din parts.I’m really disappointed that the show has given up on Din. I want him and Grogu not The Bo Katan show. They made other characters dumb to make her seem smart. I was looking forward to this reluctant leader arc and instead I get told that someone born into this, who has lost the sabre however many times already should get another go at it. My limit is if Bo rides the mythesor.If the finale gives me Din calling Grogu his son and him getting the darksaber back I will forgive everything. A nice bonus would be mech Grogu kicking ass to save his dad.
I’ve passionately hated this season so far and the finale needs to be really fucking good in order for it to redeem itself 🫡 like it’s such a shame, I used to be the biggest supporter for this show… lived and breathed it. If you’ve been around on my blog for the past 3 years (wow), you’ll know how important it was to me. And it’s just so disheartening to see the direction that the show runners have taken it. But I guess that’s the Dave Filoni effect. He created characters like Bo-Katan, he’s responsible for the development in lore re Mandalorians and Mandalore. He’s the reason the show has gone this way. And I think Dave Filoni deserves a lot of credit. He’s a creative genius. It makes sense he wants to explore Bo and Ahsoka and all these TCW characters/or have them act as fan service (ie Zeb from Rebels in episode 6(I think?)). Because he MADE them. And now he’s putting them in life-action SW! But in spite of all of that, it doesn’t make it right, though. Why establish Din for two seasons only to take it all away from him and give it to Bo. Like make a Bo show for Bo fans. But keep The Mandalorian FOR The Mandalorian.