#Fatws 1x05

[susieandhobbes]

Bucky met Sarah for 10 seconds and was ready to be a step-father. Good for him

#im bouncing back between sarah and sam posts because i can #the sarahbucky agenda #fatws spoilers #fatws 1x05

[silverstarsandshields]

Did anyone else think we were about to get a Stucky confirmation? Just me? Ok

#fatws #fatws spoilers #fatws ep 5 #tfatws #bucky barnes #steve rogers #stucky #fatws 1x05 #falcon and the winter soldier #the falcon and the winter soldier

[agentsofsheilds]

ep 1x05 of fatws in a nutshell: heineken, nike and hardware store commercial, travelling vlog, dyi shield tutorial, couples therapy

#fatws #fatws meme #falcon and the winter soldier #winter soldier #bucky barnes #sam wilson #sebastian stan #anthony mackie #mcu #marvel #fatws 1x05

[florida3exclamationpoints]

THEY FINALLY ACKNOWLEDGED THAT STEVE TALKED TO BUCKY BEFORE HE LEFT THANK YOU

#the falcon and the winter soldier #fatws #fatws spoilers #fatws 1x05 #bucky barnes #steve rogers #marvel

[isagrimorie]

[initial reactions] Falcon and the Winter Soldier 1x05

I liked this episode -- it's quiet, introspective, and fairly intimate. Sam Wilson's meditation on picking up the Shield and finding out what that means. I loved that he does this in his own home, surrounded by his people. But also that he talked to Isaiah Bradley to figure out his story and understand.

LOL after all the drama in the fandom Bucky and Ayo themselves are okay with each other.

Also, Sam Wilson is a better therapist than the government-mandated therapist. Who probably isn't even on Bucky's side.

Things that didn't work: Flagsmashers (again). And Sharon. I. Am. Not. Happy. About. This. Sloppy. Character. Work.

Other people in the inner circle don't seem happy in this quick slide to violence.

(Also GRC is totes the new World Council and how it's ???? with how it works. 6 months world government agency working already?? Sure.)

The Contessa is the Power Broker, right?

#falcon and the winter soldiers #fatws spoilers #fatws 1x05 #falcon and the winter soldier spoilers

[letaliabane]

Another episode that absolutely blew me away on so many levels! The writing, the stunts, just EVERYTHING! Cannot wait to see THE Sam Wilson as THE Captain America! #DisneyPlus

#the falcon and the winter soldier #falcon and the winter soldier 1x05 #bucky barnes #sam wilson #sebastian stan #anthony mackie #john walker #wyatt russell #falcon and the winter soldier #fatws #fatws 1x05 #marvel theories #marvel theory #marvel reactions #marvel reaction #disney plus #captain america

[fanfictiongreenirises]

BATROC!!!! IN THE MCU!!!!! THIS SERIES IS FEEDING ME LIKE NO OTHER

#georges batroc #batroc the leaper #fatws spoilers #fatws 1x05

[moonlayl]

Steve TOLD him.

I know this is not the focus of the episode, but this literally proves Bucky knew Steve was leaving, meaning he was most likely offered an opportunity to return too (because why tf would Steve tell Bucky he can go back in time, without giving Bucky the same opportunity?), so all y’all constantly complaining about how Steve “abandoned him” without telling telling him anything can stfu

#bucky barnes #steve rogers #pro steve rogers #pro endgame steve #steve and bucky #bucky and steve #tfatws #tfatws spoilers #tfatws 1x05 #mcu #marvel #the falcon and the winter soldier #fatws #falcon and the winter soldier #endgame #avengers endgame #avengers: endgame

[sambucky-stupidity]

so what's your favourite tfatws episode and why is it episode 1x05, truth?

#tfatws #fatws #tfatws 1x05 #sam wilson #bucky barnes #sambucky #caatws

[rollerskate2theface]

During the fight between John Walker and Sam and Bucky at the beginning of the episode, John raised his shield on Sam the same way he raised it minutes before when he murdered that man. I am not saying Sam is not highly capable and can’t handle things on his own but if Bucky wasn’t there, there is a high probability he would have died. And from what we saw of John at his trial where he stood with no guilt, that solidified that for me.

#steve never used his shield like that #yet that is John walkers first move in a fight #marvel #mcu #bucky barnes #sam wilson #tfatws #tfatws spoilers #fatws #fatws spoilers #anti john walker #john walker #the falcon and the winter solider #the falcon and the winter soldier spoilers #tfatws 1x05

[tawaifeddiediaz]

Bucky to Zemo after pulling the trigger on a gun with no bullets:

#sfjkldjaklds sorry #honestly this was his exact face #in human form #bucky barnes #james buchanan barnes #james bucky barnes #helmut zemo #zemo #falcon and winter soldier #tfatws #tfatws spoilers #fatws spoilers #episode 1x05 #the falcon and the winter soldier

[susieandhobbes]

Ok so please know my small brain will keep me in sambucky boat fixing land forever but...

I was NOT a fan of the Sam and Isaiah conversation, specifically in how Sam reacted to Isaiah's story.

"What went wrong"

"You could've been the next Steve"

"We can tell somebody"

Like bruh how fucking dense are you?!?! It felt like they wrote him completely oblivious so Isaiah could explain racism. Isaiah even CLOCKS him and says "you want to believe jail was my fault".

They gave Sam such big "he must have done something" vibes like a fb comment section and I hated it. Sam and Isaiah NEEDED to have a conversation but it should have been empathetic not explanatory.

#fatws spoilers #fatws 1x05 #sam wilson

[tstarkx]

Spoilers? they finally acknowledged steve's ignorance in f&tws this week. didn't go as far as i wanted but i guess it's a win. (i'm not a steve anti except for endgame btw)

yeah that was satisfying. it was the source of the whole ‘why’d you give up the shield’ debate and I’m glad they addressed it.

I’m not anti Steve either (anymore). Most of it is just bad writing.

#give my anti posts a rest I’m a changed person now guys #fatws #1x05

[florida3exclamationpoints]

After the end credit scene my dad sighed and said "that guy's a little looney" skdjkshd yeah basically sums it up 😀

#the falcon and the winter soldier #fatws #fatws spoilers #fatws 1x05 #john walker #marvel

[eveningstar477]

Thoughts on FATWS 1x04

Alright, so that mall scene in TFATWS 1x04 gave me serious Jack Thompson vibes, but also in a completely opposite way. The plane scene in Agent Carter 1x05 and Jack’s confession is eerily similar to John’s admitting that his medals of honor represent the worst day of his life.

These confessions are turning points. But they’re turning points in completely opposite directions. We see Jack begin to trust in Peggy and Daniel, and just maybe start to trust himself. His journey is rocky, but he makes it out of season 2, in Peggy’s words, “a good man.” But for John, that mall scene is the point where he really starts to unravel. The ending of this episode was truly chilling. There’s no doubt about who’s the villain now. 

Just....those are my thoughts. Idk. Do with this what you will, I guess.

#fatws #tfatws #fatws spoilers #falcon and the winter soldier #the falcon and the winter soldier #john walker #jack thompson #agent carter

[cblgblog]

I'm curious about your take on Wakanda being wronged hard in FaTWS, and by Bucky specifically? I haven't seen many people talk about it, but I'm just angry and confused as to why Bucky was to careless and rude towards Ayo and the Dora Milaje, acting as if their anger about Zemo was an overreaction. Hell, Walker got more respect from him in the end than the Dora did

I'm looking at the writers' perspective here, it was their decision and I'm wondering why. What was the thought behind it? Why did they make Bucky so insensitive? At first I thought it had to be some arc, but nothing came from it. I'm wondering what made them look at this series and think "Yes, let's make Bucky screw over the people that helped him".

It wasn't just him wronging Wakanda, it was his behavior towards Sam too, how he was so ignorant during the cop scene, dismissive of Sam's feelings, and obsessed with the shield to a point of lashing out at Sam for things that weren't his fault. Why was this a choice that was made? Bucky didn't have much personality in the other movies, they could've done anything but they chose this, and I think more people should talk about how wrong that is. Not for Bucky, but for the black people in the series who were wronged.

Okay so here’s the deal. One, I’m white, so know that going in, take my take on this for whatever it’s worth accordingly. Two, I haven’t watched the eps since they aired, with the exception of a couple scenes, so my memory—not so much of events but of specific nuances of how Bucky reacted to them—isn’t fresh.

I say that last part specifically because of Bucky and his interactions with Sam, because ultimately they bother me much less than the Wakanda stuff, and here’s why. Bucky is, to varying degrees depending on situation and episode, a dick to Sam about the shield for most of the series. Undoubtedly. But I get that, to a point. He at least explains his feelings in 1x05, why he reacted like that, and admits he fucked up. He had all his feelings for Steve wrapped up, incorrectly, in that shield, so when Sam just tossed it aside (from Bucky’s perspective), it caused him to freak out/lash out. Which was never fair to Sam, but at least culminated in Bucky recognizing that. Sam keeps saying to him that the two of them have not lived the same experience, the shield and its legacy do not mean the same thing to them, and Bucky finally realizes that. He acknowledges that neither he nor Steve grasped the full reality of the situation, and he apologizes. Does that erase what came before? No, but it’s not supposed to. It’s him acknowledging his own ignorance and trying to do better.

So, at least there’s an arc there, which is the other reason his stuff with Sam bugged me less. There was an evolution in his thinking, there was a change from wah wah, you gave up the shield, to oh wait, I kinda get it now. He realizes that his reactions were wrong, even if his feelings were understandable. Which, on a human level, I think they were. It’s a very human thing for Bucky to equate that shield directly to Steve, and take Sam’s rejection of it as a rejection of Steve. It’s understandable how he got there, given the bizarre nature of Steve’s time travel shenanigans, the nearly endless nightmare that Bucky’s life has been since he fell from the train. Losing yet another 5 years when he’s already lost 70+, all the unprocessed guilt and grief that isn’t helped by him having actually the worst therapist ever, oh my God this woman sucks at her job, she’s funny, but she’s awful. His feelings, I believe, were valid, given everything that went down. His reaction to them—the lashing out, whining, refusing to see Sam’s side of it—his reaction was not valid. But at least he gets to a point where he realizes that. At least there’s an arc.

Could they have found a different way to create conflict in the series? Sure, and I’m not gonna argue with anyone who wishes they had. For me personally, I was okay with it. Bucky’s ignorance and misplaced anger made sense to me. Bit of an aside, one of the few scenes I rewatched for this (because Youtube and knowing exactly where it was) was the cop scene, because you referenced. I’m assuming you mean the bit where Sam gets stopped, gets the ‘calm down sir’ treatment. I didn’t think Bucky was a dick in that scene? He seemed aware of what was happening, given his angry, “No he’s not bothering me, do you know who this is?” It’s actually one of a relatively few instances in the first 5 eps where Bucky does seem genuinely aware that he and Sam don’t live in the same world, even when they’re walking the same street, right next to each other. So, as far as illustrating that, and Bucky coming out of his own feelings long enough to pay attention to Sam’s, I thought it was one of the better scenes.

So, Sam and Bucky, I’m less bothered by. Bucky and Wakanda? That’s a hot garbage fire.

Zemo’s whole inclusion here, and nearly everything related to it, was incredibly botched. He’s randomly rich as fuck now, and a Baron, to match his comics counterpart. Which is not only an incredibly lazy retcon, it kills much of what made his character interesting in CW. In that movie, it was one guy, working alone, limited resources, dedicating himself to his cause. If nothing else, you had to admire his tenacity. Now suddenly he’s got a butler and a plane and piles of cash? Where was that in CW? More importantly…why? What purpose did it serve, besides making him more superficially similar to his comic self?

Why did we detour to him at all? None of his plans ultimately affect the larger narrative all that much. He starts out in prison and…ends up back in prison. Why? Why would the Dora just leave him there? Ayo says that they will bring Zemo back to face Wakandan justice…and then they just don’t. They leave him in the hands of the same people who lost him to two random dudes who were able to bust him out of prison on their own, one of those dudes being an entirely human guy, no enhanced powers, no Serum. In CW, okay, T’Challa did a deal with Everett Ross I guess, fine. But once the Americans proved they couldn’t hold him, it made no sense that the Dora would just go, okay, here you go again. They aren’t Batman. They have no reason to keep throwing the baddies in Arkham Asylum to wait ‘til next week when someone breaks out again.

The Zemo stuff had no arc to it. The only worthwhile thing was Bucky proving to Zemo that he can’t be controlled anymore, but that scene could have come about in a million better ways than it did. Ultimately, the weird little team-up with Zemo feels very cliché and contrived. It feels like a trip down a side road that dead ends to nowhere. It feels like filler, which is a particularly terrible crime when there’s only 6 episodes in the damn season.

Bucky’s dickishness towards Ayo and the other Dora really is baffling, especially when the writers went out of their way to give us that flashback, a direct, show don’t tell indication of all the Wakandans did for him. And it’s not his feelings for Steve that have him acting out this way, or at least it shouldn’t be. Steve has nothing to do with this aspect of things. Steve obviously had trust in and respect for T’Challa, and there’s no reason to think that wouldn’t extend to the Dora as well. Strong, badass women who put it all on the line for their country? Yeah, Steve should/would get that. He would have broken Zemo out of prison, if he thought it was the right call to make, but he also would’ve been like yeah, I did that, I understand that I fucked you over, I’m fully prepared to accept the consequences of that once my mission is complete, I’m sorry it went down like this. See the, “I’d like to surrender myself for disciplinary action,” he gives Phillips in First Avenger, after he goes to rescue the 107th. If it’s an authority he respects and acknowledges as having good intentions (Phillips as opposed to the Accords), Steve will ultimately give that respect back, even if he goes off to do his own thing first. He respected T’Challa and Wakanda. Bucky should have respected them even more, given his more direct connection, given the flashback scene in FatWS, given his acknowledgement that Wakanda and it’s people gave him a rare respite, a calm in the shit storm that’s been his life since 1945.

So yeah, it doesn’t make sense that he was so flippant and dismissive towards Ayo and the rest. It makes even less sense that they put up with it. It’s bad writing, that’s all I’ve got. The show is incredibly irritating, in that a lot of the plot-driven stuff is pretty fucking awful, but most of the character study stuff for Sam and Bucky is so good.

#Fatws #falcon and the winter soldier #Bucky Barnes #Sam Wilson