#and like you said it's such a healthy fandom

[deluweil]

To be honest the way part of the fandom has treated this Tommy character as a god makes me dislike him more. Unfortunately the Buck bi arc was tainted for me because it all feels force. Also what doesn't help is that Eddie was to much involved in that storyline.

The way people are acting like it's a perfect relationship and yet we barely saw them together feels just weird.

Also I don't like how some literally push Eddie away for this new white man.

This is Taylor Kelly all over again. The sad part is that the season is short and people wAnt to to spend their time giving more to the new guy.

I hope him and Marisol are gone, but I'm afraid. These two characters took the joy out of the Buck and Eddie storyline for me.

The fandom, I think, in this case, is definitely the problem here,

Lou is completely unassuming and enjoying the process and being a buddie shipper just like us - if one actually bothers to read the interviews and not just pick and choose what to talk about.

That is what makes me like Lou.

The fandom has somehow glorified Tommy's character after a couple of episodes and yeah it rubs the wrong way, because, what about the story we had so far?

Is season 7 a reset to 911? and everything that came before that doesn't count? Why not just make it 911 abc pilot then?

I don't think that's the case, but I think the last minute switch between Buck and Eddie kind of ruined it for the Tim because, yes, in a way it feels forced and out of left field.

Supposed that Buck was indeed vying for Tommy's attention, why do it like that? and why involve Eddie in the first place?

I have a lot of questions and my main problem here is not that Buck is experimenting with Tommy, it's the way they practically propelled this ship off the cliff into a dangerous spin, they went from zero to 200 in a second. - That is not how you build a relationship.

You don't try to figure out what you want, mess up the first date, then invite said date to an apology coffee and then invite him to family wedding on the way. It just doesn't work that way.

I may be straight, but I have gay and bi and lesbian friends, neither one of them has ever brought a second or even a third date to so much as a friends get together before they were sure that this is something that would last, before they brought the intended victim to be judged by friends and family.

And people who talk about Tommy as being established in the 118 family, that is not true. He has a connection with Chimney in that that he owes him his life and an acquaintance with Hen, who is clearly not very fond of him, because of obvious past she had with him and their old house before Bobby came into the picture. - Remember - Chimney was her ONLY lifeline in that house.

Tommy was not a liked character before.

Arguably Buck had more history with Taylor than he did with Tommy (which is none at all) - But Taylor is a strong opinionated and often self-serving woman (not unlike Buck mind you), emphasis on woman. - That is the only reason she never stood a chance. Because the writers could have made her and Buck the greatest love story this show has seen, but they continuously managed to ruin any fondness for any female LI to ever grace that set.

And this season is short, to bring in a new LI kinda defeats the purpose of re-establishing the team and this show, because it does feel the same as any of Buck's old relationships that were being pushed for the benefit of 'god forbid Buck actually learns how to be alone and healthy and happy' - the only thing that changed in Buck this season is his sexuality and nothing else, and that vexes me.

My problem is not with Tommy, it's the perpetuation of 'poor baby Buck' society. - I love Oliver and I love Buck - I am tired of the ever repeating pattern of forgiveness for his self serving ways without any accountability that we keep seeing.

I don't think Buck's or even Eddie's firsts or you know what? even seconds should be each other, I am more than happy to make this journey with them, but let it be a marathon not a sprint to the finish line - they knew they would get renewed for another season, they could have written and built it better than what we got - because the moment they switched gears after the second episode, the story became written in the same messy last minute way both S4 and most of S5 were written.

There is no grand plan, at this point they are merely winging it and see where the wind takes them. - And that is idiotic, they had SO MUCH TIME to make this a well written story with the strike and long break after that, to write as they film is lazy and stupid and mostly childish.

And yes this is Taylor all over again, not in that they are the same type of people, but that Buck is jumping head first into a relationship without actually knowing how he got there. - Bobby said that himself - and it is the same, because who in their right mind invite a second (kinda) date to a family event? Like dude have you ever dated before? Do you how this works?

It is a LOT of pressure and not even for Buck himself - because he brought this on himself - but rather for Tommy (aka the intended victim) to be first introduced to the family after a couple of dates when he himself has no idea where he and Buck are standing.

Marisol, has indeed sucked the joy out of the Eddie's story, I don't get why do either of the boys had to be in a relationship starting this season to begin with. Like, she is literally a handbag, the token hetero symbol, so to speak, what she is doing there? is beyond me.

The catholic guilt of her being a nun is bullshit, and as Bobby said himself, Eddie has no problem committing to certain people/things. She serves no purpose this season other than a seat warmer/ glorified babysitter since Buck is otherwise engaged.

They could have gone for Eddie finding his way in the department, Eddie dealing with his mommy issues, Eddie trying to figure out what and who he wants in his life, Eddie trying to navigate Chris' terrible teenage years.

They could have explored the fact that a guy going with his supposed gf/wife in the golf course checking Eddie's hot ass (6X17) - Oh wait, they were going to... the ground for Eddie's coming out was all laid out and they took a sharp turn to left field in the second episode of S7 and made it all about Buck again, because the Natalia actress couldn't come?? what kind of a weak ass reason is that?

And yes, the cliche of receiving the odd white man out (who played a controversial role in early seasons) rather than the regular casted poc male or the guest starring woman, for that matter, better is all kind of f-ed up, but no one would talk about that, of course. 👀

Anyway, I am hoping that whatever is coming next will be worthy of our time and attention because so far we got about more of the same as far as Buck and Eddie are concerned - except that Buck has just broaden his variety and has a bigger pallet of mate choosing at his disposal.

I have two very close bi friends, so I know how their minds work, because God knows they share with me more than I ever wanted to know lol. And one of them is watching 911 with me and she is happy for the rep as well, but unhappy with how it was developed too.

At the moment, I have decided to put any Buck and Eddie topics aside and just want to get the LONG AWAITED Madney wedding, if anyone deserve a happy ending, it's them. ❤️

#911 ask #evan buckley #eddie diaz #tommy kinard #marisol whatever her last name is #buddie #911 spoilers #911 speculation #don't you dare to rb this with an opposing opinion - i don't care that you think tommy farts rainbows out of his ass make your own post #and if you don't like what i write block me so you can save me the trouble of blocking you #not directed to this anon #just a warning to toxic fandom groopies that has done it before - naturally they were blocked #I am entitled to my opinion just like you are entitled to yours #deluweil replies

[anthurak]

Okay so, I feel like some people need to think about WHY Summer would be working for Salem, because a lot of them tend to forget that whatever sacrifice Summer made that kept her from coming home was one she INSTANTLY regretted, was NOT planning to make when she left, and one that had consequences for Ruby she did NOT foresee.

Given that this song is the source of Summer's leitmotif, it SURE would be weird if they made Summer Rose a mustache-twirling supervillain who hates her daughters and wants to be rid of them, wouldn't it?

So while I would not be surprised if Summer's been enslaved by Salem and is being forced to do her bidding, I highly doubt she willingly or knowingly threw her own children under the bus to do so, as some people are suggesting she did (typically to try and make Raven look better).

The annoying bit is that I feel like any 'backlash' against Summer is a pretty typical case of a fandom spending years propping up a character as the greatest, most perfectist, unproblematic cinnamon roll possible, and then the moment that character is given any sort of serious flaw, suddenly they're the most terrible-terrible bad-bad person ever.

Sorry, did I say 'character'? I meant to say girl/woman. If it's a dude, they just ignore/deny said flaws til the heat-death of the universe. Just keep an eye on the reaction to when the story gives us the same rug-pull for Tai it did for Ozpin, Qrow and Ironwood...

Anyway, yeah I'm in full agreement with you on this one. Assuming that Summer isn't full-on brainwashed and/or puppeted by Salem, then we're definitely looking at a Darth Vader-esque situation wherein Summer has been utterly broken by Salem. Via a combination of her mysterious plan to stop Salem utterly failing, years of torture and hybrid experiments, plus a healthy dose of 'would you like to hear all the things Oz was lying to you about? Somehow it's MORE than 'everything'.'

More specifically, broken in a way that emphasizes Summer being a foil to Ruby. As in, showing the worst possible end that Ruby's self-destructive hero-complex could ultimately take her. Followed by Ruby not only finding a 'better way', but then along with Yang, saving their mother from this fate as well.

#rwby #rwby ask #rwby theory #rwby analysis #swapauanon ask #Summer Rose #Salem #Ruby Rose #Yang Xiao Long

[crabsnpersimmons]

READING YOUR TAGS AND IT WAS ONE OF MY POSTS THAT CONVINCED YOU TO JOIN????? I AM SO SO HONORED!!!! ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I AM SO GRATEFUL YOU'RE IN THE FANDOM, YOUR ART OF THE DCA IS ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE!!!!

IT WAS!!! IT WAS THIS ONE: https://www.tumblr.com/cacaocheri/737396340539146240/the-dca-fandom-is-genuinely-the-healthiest-fandom

and like even before that i loved seeing your comics of Sun and Charlie (and occasionally Moon)! and all the energy and excitement of the fandom! just bursting with creativity and fun!

AND THANK YOU!! i'm happy to be here :')

#ask the crab #dca fandom #i love the dca fandom! #it's just so fun and different from my previous fandom experiences #after my first fandom experience #i kinda just decided to enjoy things on my own #which was alright #but a little lonesome #and it always felt like i never had the same interests as my friends #so i always felt like the weird one #so it's refreshing to be around so many people who love the DCA too! #and like you said it's such a healthy fandom #SO much creativity and support for one another

[skania]

I've seen people criticize Akane's reply to Aqua in Chapter 52, but I think Akane actually said exactly what Aqua needed to hear.

Because she once again saw through Aqua.

Akane promises Aqua that she will always be his ally. That no matter what happens, she will be by his side; that she will understand him.

This really touches Aqua, but he can't bring himself to believe her. After all, Aqua, cynical and self-deprecating as he is, doesn't think it's "easy" to find someone who will acknowledge you as you are and appreciate you for it.

Of course, it doesn't help that he hides himself and his heart under multiple layers.

Despite that, he does open up to Akane in this chapter. You wouldn't understand, not that I'm going to tell you anyway, he says, before proceeding to do just that (lol).

He gives it his best shot, even turning his dark stare on her.

He is testing her. Laying a trap so that when she naturally judges him for his less than noble intentions, he can convince himself that that moment of comfort she gave him was nothing but a mirage. Of course she wouldn't understand, no one can understand.

He is doing the same thing Ai did when she met Saitou, being honest with the goal of scaring Akane off.

However, Aqua, who is always at odds with himself, is simultaneously also hoping Akane will prove him wrong, because he wants to believe her. He really does want to believe someone out there can understand him.

And Akane sees through the trap into what Aqua truly wants, and tells him exactly what he needs to hear.

She doesn't encourage him, neither does she tell him that he's wrong. She listens to him without judgement and tells him, in no uncertain terms, that she is willing to share that burden with him. Just like she told him she would.

And that kind of companionship and acceptance means the world to Aqua, who thinks so little of himself. It even chases the darkness from his eyes, turning the black star back into its usual white.

This is all highlighted later. First in Chapter 65, where Goro reveals that finally finding someone who understands him is one of the reasons that makes Aqua start to believe he can be happy.

And of course, in Chapter 97, where Aqua has a monologue about how Akane acknowledging him and accepting him as he is has saved him little by little.

#akane kurokawa #kurokawa akane #aqua hoshino #oshi no ko #aquakane #aquaka #me: onk #fandom: onk #my aquakane meta #the last ask I got reminded me I had this in the drafts #thank you anon!! #all this to say that I keep seeing people judging this scene as if aqua were a healthy individual #he isn't #in the context of the story and of his emotional and psychological needs akane said exactly what she needed to say to help him #because for once aqua doesn't feel like he's alone

[heymacy]

💛

#hello little stars #i've missed you so #wee update on me: i'm actually doing quite well at the moment #things were a little iffy there for a minute but i'm in a very healthy mental space right now #i feel more like myself than i have in a long time #which is a very welcome thing #unfortunately during the process of obtaining said healthy mental state my shameless hyperfixation abruptly broke into pieces #it isn't that i don't still have love for the show - i do - i just don't feel consumed by it anymore #it doesn't occupy the same space in my brain that it once did #instead that space has been opened up to new interests and ideas and hobbies and yes even the occasional new blorbo #and i will not lie to y'all - it feels good #as to the future of this account i think it's going to become less of a fandom blog and more of a whatever-i-feel-like-posting blog #a scrapbook of my interests where i put stickers of shows and movies i like on the page and scribble my most incoherent thoughts #a personal blog if you will #i'm very grateful for the last three years of my life and all the things + people this show brought to me #but it just isn't IT for me anymore - y'know? #anyway #if you've read this far - i love you #i've missed you #come say hi #i promise i don't bite #also a URL change will probably be coming in the near future so if you're like um who the HELL is that?! it's probably me #blessed be my babies #ily very much

[sophiethewitch1]

Small PSA: if you do this I will immediately block you. I am chronically ill and have no interest in this sort of fan. I feel guilty about not writing enough... And it's fanfiction of all things... My priority is my own health, always and forever.

#sophie speaks #the 'stay healthy' really feels like this person just spat on me #multiple people have also told me this sounded like a threat lmao #NOT willing to deal with this #if you send anons like this i just sort of don't think you deserve to read my writing #not saying its a great thing or anything. but its mine #and you cant demand gifts from someone #thats what fic is #its a gift from one person in a fandom to others #community relies on kindness and empathy and if you don't show it #you wont be invited into said community again

[super-paper]

Not "AFO being the final boss undoes all of Tomura's development," or "the body snatching plot line was a last minute decision," but a secret third fourth fifth sixth and seventh thing....

3. ("Weekly manga is an inherently flawed storytelling medium when it comes to telling cohesive stories, and authors are often required to stretch their main plot points thin over hundreds of chapters/several years. When you sit down to analyze or critique MHA, I sincerely feel you need to take the restriction of its medium/genre as well as the restrictions on the artist into consideration. One must also consider that this is a story that has been written over the course of a decade-- A certain degree of "mutation" between the story's beginning and its ending is both acceptable & anticipated within this medium.")

4. ("That being said, Hori does consistently do a much better job of telling a coherent story with consistent themes than people give him credit for, and credit should be given where it's due-- while there are some poorly/hastily implemented narrative elements and plot points where it can be argued that Hori decided to change gears, they are not the story-breaking sins that people make them out to be. And ultimately, Tomura's possession does work as a natural progression of the story Hori is attempting to tell and as something that builds off and solidifies the themes established throughout MHA.")

5. ("Tomura's arc is that of a victim trapped in the cycle of abuse told through a lens of fantasy. He was always a victim of AFO and always someone who had his identity abused out of him, and the body-snatch plotline is just a variation of telling that story in a way that leaves no room for argument. Tomura's arc and Izuku's arc also foil and build off each other, and a lot of the misunderstandings I've seen re: MHA's trajectory come from fans who either disregard Izuku's arc in favor of fixating on Tomura's arc (or vice versa) instead of reading these arcs as two parts of a whole-- both arcs grapple with "identity" and how you define yourself vs how others try to define you, the romanticization of self-destructive traits and how it's necessary to have good social support and people who are willing to step in and stop you from hurting yourself, systemic and individual dehumanization, adults failing to protect them when they need it, valid anger and an intolerance for injustice being taken advantage of a twisted into something intensely self-destructive, etc. Ignoring Izuku's arc and how it both reflects and intertwines with Tomura's (& vice versa) means missing out on understanding the core of both characters and what their respective roles in this narrative is. TL;DR Tomura being a victim in need of saving and Izuku being the one in a position to save him is something that has been cooking since Tomura's debut at USJ *more on this later*")

6. ("Hori started off not wanting to give his villains any humanizing qualities because he wanted them to remain "scary" to his readers-- but it's fairly clear that he developed a sense of appreciation and sympathy for his villains as his story progressed and his ability as a writer developed. As a direct result of this, his story eventually grew beyond treating the LOV as hollow tools to "scare" the readers. Hori grew, and so did MHA. The trajectory of the story changing to reflect Hori's growth should not be treated as a bad thing bc, again, this change/growth does not actually violate the initial premise of MHA in an unforgiveable way-- it actually services the natural progression of the story and its characters.")

7. ("Saving Tomura and the LOV is the ultimate goal of the series, and that goal is built off of literally everything Hori has established up to this point. You will never find inner peace or enjoy the manga's good qualities if you keep agonizing over what could have been. Reacting to the manga as a whole on a week-to-week basis will only skew your understanding of the story as a whole. Et cetera Et cetera Et cetera.")

#sophie.txt #this kinda turned into more of a rant abt how the fandom treats-slash-engages with hori but w/e it needed to be said #you can definitely critique problematic and tone-deaf aspects of his story. it's conductive to a healthy fandom-- #-- to know why and explain why certain aspects of a story or treatments of a character need to be critiqued #but a lot of the complaints i'm seeing across reddit/tumblr/twitter are detached from reality in a bad and needlessly cruel way #like. people also have to consider that hori introduced a lot of characters and plot elements back when he was a lot /healthier/ #him rushing to wrap side plots up or side fights to focus on the main stuff is also not the story breaking sin people make it out to be #tbh it really does feel like mha is a lot of people's first manga bc half the stuff they complain about is par the course for the medium #like ya'll legit won't know what true suffering is until you become a fan of yoshihiro togashi's works 😔

[miraculouscontent]

A semi-random thought that occurred to me today and a good example of why I will never go out of my way/seek out the arguments of love square stans:

Let’s talk about That Scene in “Truth” real quick with the Adrien pictures, and I mean seriously talk about it from both a writing perspective and in-universe. The simplified version is simply that it has nothing to do with the actual break-up and actually damages the argument of love square stans rather than helps, but I’ll explain in more detail.

Firstly, it’s an actual, literal fact that Adrien himself has nothing to do with the break-up between Marinette and Luka. If you were able to magically edit out the Adrien pictures from Marinette’s wall and all scenes/lines that mention him, nothing would change: we’d be watching an episode where Marinette tries to date Luka, is cut off at every chance due to Ladybug duties (which stress her out so much to the point of being even more forgetful than usual), he gets akumatized, they break up because they’re unable to have the honest relationship that both Marinette and Luka want, and Marinette sobs to herself in her room because she can’t date due to being Ladybug.

Any mentions of Adrien do nothing for the actual story, which brings me to my next point:

Both in-universe and narratively speaking, the show already makes it obvious before The Call happens that this is not just a Marinette problem, but a universe problem. The girls, Ziggy, Luka, and the girls again drag in Adrien to be the topic of discussion at different points in the stories without Marinette’s direct input. At no point during the episode does Marinette herself bring up Adrien without him being the topic first.

This tells us two things:

1 - Marinette’s problem with Adrien extends to other people bringing him up to her unnecessarily. The argument can’t be made that Marinette and only Marinette brought it on herself, because the fact that it’s a problem at all should dictate that the others should stop enabling it by bringing Adrien up.

2 - Marinette can and does have the capacity to not make things about Adrien, but the mention of him makes her lose all sense of self.

If the intent of mentioning Adrien is to imply that Marinette is using Luka as a replacement for him, that disregards what actually happens in the episode. In “Truth,” Marinette is near Adrien on two separate occasions (with Luka directly nearby) and doesn’t have a reaction to him, choosing instead to favor Luka. This contradicts The Call, which suddenly looks more like a moment of panic of her magically-reappearing Adrien wall than Marinette viewing Luka as an Adrien substitute. Marinette also gives Luka a gift specific to him, meaning she thought very much of him and what he would want.

While stans would argue the point that Marinette forgot her date with Luka, she clearly didn’t forget The Gift despite showing in later episode that she forgets virtually everything. This is even disregarding the fact that Marinette essentially tells the audience directly that her memory is shot because of her responsibilities (and any arguing beyond that is gaslighting people with horrible memories into thinking they don’t care about people simply because they’ve forgotten something important about them; S T O P).

A properly-written story would show more evidence to its case, such as Marinette seeing Adrien in place of Luka when they hang out, Marinette whispering Adrien’s name just before she and Luka (try to) kiss, Marinette giving Luka a gift she’d once intended for Adrien (but failed to give him), and Marinette admitting to herself at the end that she was settling for Luka. Not only do none of these things happen, but the show tells its audience in “Gang of Secrets” that Marinette fell for Luka and that she didn’t break up with him due to not liking him. The show, naturally, tries to retcon that in “Crocoduel,” but the retcon proves that they saw the “issue” and didn’t know how to fix it.

Stans will of course continue to argue then about The Call and all the supposed “pro love square implications” it has without realizing the very hole they’re digging themselves into. I mean, this is even going beyond the fact that they will repeatedly bash Marinette for her behavior concerning Adrien whilst they still ship the love square we have in canon.

Basically, everything in “Truth” is explained with one simple sentence: Marinette is obsessed with Adrien, but in love with Luka, and everyone mistakes Marinette being obsessed with being “in true love.”

Obsession takes over Marinette’s mind, her life, everything, and I’ve done whole posts about how thoroughly Marinette’s Adrien crush has ruined her life rather than made it better. Case in point, Marinette wouldn’t even be guardian in the first place had it not been for the Adrien obsession, meaning the Season 4 finale wouldn’t have happened.

Using The Call to prove Love Square Supremacy isn’t furthering their point, but rather shining a spotlight on the exact issue with the love square and why it should never have been endgame in the first place.

#((I know I said ''thought'' and then spat out an entire essay)) #((but that's just how I work okay?)) #category: salt #salt: fandom #salt: love square #episode: Truth #((Anyway my point in this post is basically to say that--like--)) #((arguments for the love square usually go bust pretty quickly)) #((because the arguments themselves only prove how poisonous the love square is for Marinette)) #((and even the writers do this in episodes like ''Desperada'')) #((where the girls talk about how healthy Lukanette is for Marinette)) #((and then in comes the ship that's SUPPOSED to be endgame)) #((and here's me like ''*visible confusion*'')) #((You don't spend 4 seasons keeping the love obsessive and then turn it into ''real'' love when it suits the plot.)) #((That's literally not how anything works.)) #((We've passed the halfway point meaning that over 50% of on-screen Adrienette was Marinette being slowly consumed by the celebrity crush)) #((and I have yet to see a valid reason why I should favor the crush that's ruined Marinette's life)) #((over the one that could only be broken up in canon by ''because Ladybug'')) #((as the writers failed to come up with a reason why their personalities clashed in a way that would prevent them from being together.))

[detectivechandler]

why write chandler if you hate his canon relationship?

canon relationship - ? i ... buddy, timon and pumba are more canon than fucking joe and kent

#would i really write a character if i didn't disagree with the majority of the fandom's really fucking awful ideas? #no. #but sure i can list the reasons for the hate #1) it is offensive to argue that IMITATING someone's mental illness is a healthy supportive gesture #imitation does not mean understanding. #if my partner tried to 'understand' and 'support' my mental illness by pretending to fucking have it in an effort to be like 'me too babe' #i would simply fucking lose it #2) NOT EVERYTHING IS GAY. just bc youre a woman that wants two men to be uwu in love .. doesnt mean that they are. #even if you are also a gay man (hi buddy. i love u) ... remind urself that not everything has to be gay. we should want GOOD representation #3) i'm sorry did no one watch the show? kent is literally so unlikable. he is the walking pole that holds up the giant red flag #4) the argument that the actors supported it is completely invalid bc rupert said in EVERY INTERVIEW that joe was absolutely not aware #5) the ending scene is not joe agreeing to go with kent. hes agreeing to go to the pub with the TEAM and im sorry but you are cheapening #that boy and his arc and his struggle through the entirety of series 4 not to mention the whole show by making it about kent. #6) yall just gonna sweep morgan under the rug and leave her laying there huh? thats fine thats fine.

[galacticvampire]

As an Asian and a major fan of the Jedi, I just wanna slap Lesyle Headland in the face. I'm so tired of ignorant Westerners (aka faux white feminists) like her and Kathleen Kennedy shitting on the Jedi. They're basically insulting and looking down on my people and their culture. I wish Kathleen Kennedy got fired. I wish that SOMEONE could hire an Asian person to direct the Acolyte instead of a white Western woman like Lesyle Headland. She should just go back to making a 3rd season of Russian Doll or whatever. Why is it SO HARD for Disney to hire Asian people to be in charge of a Star Wars series or movie???

The anti-jedi rethoric is very annoying and it upsets me that lucasfilm doesn't try (i might be wrong about them not trying but alas) to at least direct creators working for canon material to stick to GLs original meaning without the very prominent legends bias we know older fans have. You and everyone to whom this characterization is important (I'm one of them!) has every right to be upset about the things she said, but I just want to point out a few things:

We don't know how Acolyte is going to turn out. The statement is worrying but we've seen actors/directors say things in interviews that just don't reflect on what we actually get. (Favreou does this all the time) I say we wait. I'm not an optimistic but I think we can hold off saying it will DEFINITELY be awful until it actually comes out.

Again, it's very upsetting having yet another show trying to be "jedi critical" but I can't help but notice that Filoni, Favreou and multiple other writers have been doing it for years and everyone still watches and reads everything they put out. Not many people seriously call for them being fired. The fact that I've seen way more anger and aggressiveness towards Lesyle is... telling. Go all the way on the critiques of the material when the show comes out (I will) but don't be blind to the fact that she is one of the first openly queer women leading a prominent Disney production. There will be fans being awful to the show just because of it + Amandla's race and gender. Sometimes will be hard to tell which kind of anger someone is expressing but I'll highlight that is NEVER productive to side with bigots, even when you're rightfully angry for different reasons than them.

Which leads to my next point: we should be (I know we already are, just to remember the focus) advocating for diversity on the writing room. That's the space we have to a big cast of opinions and perspectives in the same project, while we only have one director/a few producers. And I think it's important to acknowledge that in that department they've already have gone really far just in the last couple years. We have Debora Chow. Diego Luna was producing Andor. Regardless of the end result, Lesley is an openly queer woman. EVERY SINGLE LEAD BESIDES EWAN IS A POC. This was unimaginable ten years ago. This is just a reminder to not let yourself fall in despair, we're getting there.

Kathleen Kennedy is incredible at her job. I'm not discussing her opinions because they aren't that relevant: she doesn't make any creative decisions. She makes executive and strategic ones, and Star Wars has put out more content under her administration than ever. She is one of the reasons it's so diverse now. Push for her to do better, to hire people who have a vision that aligns with what star wars is meant to be, but calling for her being fired is echoing the dudebros who blame her for every detail that aren't even under her control.

None of this erases the underlying racism in the refusal to understand Jedi culture, you (we) are rightfully angry, specially if Acolyte turns out to be exactly how she said it will. I just think there are more effective ways we can have this conversation and pressure Lucasfilm to do better than boycotting a show we don't even know if is really problematic yet, lest they decide it's easier to stick to the "standard" white straight male pov because it cuts off both the "wokenism" complaints and the ones that what they're doing isn't the right kind of diversity. (see also: target)

#like im all in for calling out what Lesley said #but I've seen every single note on that post simce im op #and I'm gonna say that the aggressiveness is disproportionate #specially because filoni has said and done much worse #star wars is an angry fandom by definition #sometimes is important to remember that a lot of the fandom will be angry for a very different and worse reason (star wars is woke now!!) #and I really don't want to help Those Guys #sorry about this being long but I've been noticing this since that post blew up #important reminder that this is simply me trying to be realistic and pointing out how i believe it's the healthy way to interact with this #byt like if you want to be super pissed about it have it your way i just felt the need to point this out since it was directly sent to me

[llycaons]

sometimes I feel like I've overcorrected on the unhealthy relationships in media thing because there is so much nauseating bullshit out there that people present as aspirational, which is kind of a shame because a lot of the most interesting fictional relationships are absolute nightmares and it's a real gift to see them appreciated by people who understand the nuances and the appeal

#it also depends on your reading of the term shipping I guess #like take lxc and jgy. super compelling and tragic. not healthy or anything and it annoys me when ppl make them all cutesy #but really worth digging into and exploring! same with like...amc iwtv. terrible marriage in like every way #but I really enjoyed watching it play out because the drama mattered to the characters and it was really interesting to dissect #and like phill and myeol are...idk what to call them. but they're enthralling #and obviously if you don't like phill lying to myeol or tracking him or trying to trick him into signing a contract #I'd say it's not the story for you but it was really compelling watching this utter freak meet someone unlike anyone else and like. #become deeply needy over his presence and then need to come to terms with what that means for him #ntm myeol's response to and counterattack on phill which is compelling and fun in its own right #like! this stuff is really neat and I wish like....fandom people didn't make me so wary about relationships #that weren't cut-and-dry sterile saccharine mush #that being said I do vaguely distrust ppl who ship them romantically bc who knows what they're doing with that BUT I also see why they do #of everyone on this list it is by far the least violent and toxic but still. there's some shit going on there #cor.txt

[leonsi]

antis will say they’re the normal people on the internet, then chronicle exactly how they think proshippers should be raped and/or maimed on a discussion about mental health.

#rape mention #discourse #fandom discourse #fandom wank #like. sorry excuse me for getting concerned when you detail how great it would be for me to be raped as a child. thats not healthy behavior. #i was first given a rape threat when i was twelve. should i have been online? absolutely not. should that have been said to me? still no #antis are fucking vile. #vent #proship #proship discourse

[pcktknife]

i got ei but i dont play genshin what is she like

depressed like so soooo depressed

#shes pretty complex and probably is one of the if not The best written character currently in the game #like people were upset with inazumas storyline but when eis second quest came out multiple ppl were like 'oh this might saved this arc' #shes not really a good person but she isnt totally bad either #how to sum her up #lost p much all her loved ones (one of which died by her hand others possibly preventable) bc of that she locked herself in her mindscape #isolated herself and built a puppet stand in of herself to run her country to make sure it never changed (keep it the same for an eternity) #and like any threat to eternity gets eliminated thrown in jail vision stolen etc etc her ppl love her but like her fear of change is bad #really bad for everyone #like the country is shut down no one in no one out theres people being displaced theres a war its alot and its all cause ei cant really #move on i think yae and ei herself even says she was being selfish and childish to an extent #you eventually go into the mindscape and yae (pink fox lady probably eis last living non human friend actually) shows up like bitch get up! #youre lonely this isnt healthy girl!!! and eis like damn youre right im still not ready to move on so i think i need to reflect on shit wow #her first quest was her seeing how her country changed and getting out of her head for a bit second quest was her actually facing the #trauma she experienced from all her loss and also fighting her puppet replacement to get it to chill out w the whole eternity thing and #reuniting with her dead sister for one last time it was actually like super beautiful almost cried #i said id give u a summary and just gave u the whole story sorry shes just like a super compelling character 💀 #genshin fandom had probably still has a hard time understanding her as a character cause shes not textbook evil woman #people often hate her or glorify her but i feel you wont understand her if your too far on either side of those #tldr: shes complicated a traumatized woman who made poor choices because of it and shes not perfect a bit far from it but shes trying to.. #get better and be better for the sake of the people she'd been hurting and being kind of a shitty god to #also shes gay but thats neither here nor there #asks #anon #lucky you getting the genshin character i apparently seem to know the most about #i was going to bed and you activated my brainworms 😭

[holyshit]

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#'fandom rant' anon #yes feel free to always come to me if you want to rant <3 i get it lol #and yeah i've definitely noticed that to- i love people not blindly following their faves and having a healthy level of criticism #because that's super important! hero worship is never good! #but yeah then you get some people who fall back on that when they legitimately don't seem to like them or one of them anymore #and it begs the question why they're still here if they're disappointed by everything they do #not in a 'how dare you be disappointed in my fave way!!!!!' (because i don't care) but in the way that they don't seem happy to be here #i do think it's complex because people have complicated relationships with these kinds of things- like they used to bring you joy but now #they don't and it's hard to give something up #but there's some people i genuinely think would be happier if they took a step back so they could realize whether this fandom is genuinely #something that makes them happy or not #and then proceed from there #because they just seem to be angrier and angrier or sadder and sadder as they move through the fandom #and even though we deal with some heavier topics in this fandom- it is still a fandom and the purpose should be having fun #and yesss about what you said about expectations #i really dislike the catastrophizing that happens in fandom so often #like i understand trying to brace yourself for the worst but when you're constantly spreading the worst case scenario #it's just.... needlessly miserable. especially when the worst case scenario doesn't happen the majority of the time so you end up with so #many people anxious or disappointed about something that hasn't even happened yet lmao #and like you said- it doesn't end up being a 'bracing yourself' situation when people are just as angry and disappointed when it does happen #and also 100% about people getting mad at others for not being angry enough or sad enough- that is entirely unfair and more of #a 'misery loves company' than anything because this is a FANDOM. you should want people to have fun! you shouldn't want them to be stressed #and anxious constantly over celebrity's lives. we have enough anxiety about our own lives lmao #sorry this is making your fandom experience worse than it needs to be :/ it is hard to avoid sometimes #hopefully you find people to follow that make you more happy than sad or anxious #ily!! #asks #anonymous

[gxlden-angels]

Every once in a while I am reminded of that "I chose Jesus over Shiro" post because I quite literally chose Shiro over Jesus

#I won't even try to defend myself I was a keith kinnie from ages 14-16ish #absolutely in love with lance #I was just deep enough in the fandom to know everything but not enough to do anything #like I never harassed anyone but I blocked any shallies I saw #if u remember the term shallies congrats #like I said I was a keith kinnie so I was like 'this man is 17 and Shiro is my literal biological brother' #so I never like. went after shallies cause I touched grass sometimes even back then #but I blocked any I saw and generally kept up with the drama #reading it on the morning ride to school like a tired mom reading gossip magazines #and I felt super guilty cause I shipped klance but was still a christian and baby gay #and then I figured out I was gay. read klance fanfic. and slowly felt like christianity wasnt as healthy as I thought for me #you know it's bad when the v*ltron fandom was somehow healthier for me than my church #ex christian #religious trauma

[msfcatlover]

I think… I want to see more stories where someone says “I forgive you,” soft & fully of emotion, like their whole heart is breaking… because they don’t. They know, they know, they can never let this go. The wound will never heal. The relationship will never be the same as it was before that horrible thing was done. But the two of them will never be able to move forwards if they spend the rest of their lives trying to stitch it up, only aggravating the wound, causing constant spikes & reminders of pain with their constant prodding. And the person who hurt them, they will never stop trying to fix what they broke as long as they know it’s broken.

So they lie. They say “I forgive you.” They say it stopped hurting. They watch the person they still love, despite everything, breathe a sigh of relief & promise to be better.

The wound scabs over once it’s finally left alone. But it never fully heals. It still hurts when pulled or pressed on; sometimes it cracks open & bleeds.

Maybe it comes up in future fights, because it’s always going to be part of why they’re upset. Maybe they bite their tongue every time someone bumps into it and smile, smile, smile to ignore the pain. Maybe someone finds out eventually, or maybe it’s a secret they take to their grave.

The kindest, most selfish lie they ever told.

#tv tropes #forgiveness #fandoms All #my life #mine #my writing #// #I do not endorse doing this IRL; it is very much not healthy! But I think it’s one angle of forgiveness I haven’t seen explored much. #When forgiveness isn’t given but you lie or pretend that it has just so you can finally move past this. #I am definitely projecting #but I’d like to see it explored from this angle: the lie as an act of self-sacrifice. #I’ve only ever seen forgiveness given in full; openly not given but moved past; or ‘’You said you were over that!’’/‘’WELL I’M NOT!’’ #which almost always frames the liar as being cruel and/or petty for still being upset even after saying forgiveness was given.