the thing about eliot spencer as a character, right. the thing about him.
(and as always your mileage may vary on my analyses so if we disagree that's cool actually)
is that he is in fact a somewhat emotionally constipated idiot who is occasionally sensitive about his perceived masculinity and gets defensive about emotional intimacy around other men (largely hardison, who's much more comfortable expressing affection and embracing a softer kind of masculinity), but eliot displays enough emotional awareness and sensitivity and respect for women etc etc that anyone who's been subjected to that era of television will put on rose-tinted glasses without even looking twice.
(and he is, don't get me wrong, incredibly emotionally aware for a professionally punchy guy with enough trauma to sink the titanic. it still startles me to see.)
on top of which we have the layers and the accessories and the excellent hair with the secret braids and the way he barely has an ego and he's good with kids and protective of his team without taking it too far, and some of us never stood a fucking chance.
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I got Death Note HTR13 recently and reading it made me realize how there's barely any thematic meaning put into this story intentionally. Same with political commentary. Even (most of) the discussion around morality. Everything remotely intellectual ppl discuss about this series isn't a conscious decision, to a point that both Ohba (creator/writer) and Obata (artist), admit they were surprised by how much ppl had to say and analyze abt it.
Example of what I mean:
Also during the interview sections, there's so many instances of Obata asking Ohba what his creative vision was for this and that and Ohba just nonchalantly admitting he barely put any thought into the story beyond "oh this would be cool" or "oh this kinda fits the vibe".
There's a whole page of the interview where Obata is befuddled how the apples didn't have any intended symbolism behind them after Ohba tells him they were purely an aesthetic choice. Obata is so shocked by this (bc he knows apples are a common religious motif in art) he actually keeps asking Ohba if he's joking, while Ohba keeps stressing he's being serious. (Context: they never interacted while working on Death Note, they only spoke through their editor who'd rely production notes)
Obata for like three pages during his interview with Ohba in HTR13, after Ohba told him apples had no symbolic or thematic meaning in Death Note:
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Hey, I've seen a lot of reasonable discussions about Gabe's zionism and I thought his latest comment on his initial post would be worth sharing. It was posted about 20min ago
It's not a perfect response, but I think it honestly is pretty acceptable. What are your thoughts?
thank you very much for sharing this with me! though i’m, of course, no expert on this my initial reaction to reading that is to agree with you- it isn’t perfect, but the level of self-reclection and accountability being taken by him there Is better than anything i could’ve hoped for. it’s a step in the right direction, i think, and i can only hope he continues showing this level or more of growth and education on what is happening in palestine and that his previous behavior and statements were Not acceptable. perhaps it’s the bare minimum or Veryyy close to it considering the harmful rhetoric he had been sharing, but some level of growth from that is still reassuring to witness.
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no but really the focus on pronouns Determining Actual Gender And Having Unique Social Roles in lgbt spaces is absolutely bizarre and beyond any form of basic material analysis of gender it exists in the real world. like speaking from experience you can literally be a stone butch lesbian who goes out of ur way to exclusively dress in traditionally masculine clothes, who uses a masculine name, who intentionally and explicitly plays a complex and deeply nonconforming gender role as both social performance art and for personal fulfilment, and then get lumped in by other lgbt people in the category of "she/her type" (and, more broadly, if you use she/her and are afab, you inevitably get labeled as 'cis' regardless of your actual gender performance as interpreted by the world writ large) just because you dont care enough about pronouns to determine and enforce the use of any others for yourself
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so I started playing the new Frontiers of Pandora game last night, and was pleasantly surprised that not only did the opening cutscene feature a few lines of spoken Na'vi dialogue, but said dialogue was actually pretty accurate!! Good job game!!
Here’s the lines transcribed as far as I can tell:
Aha'ri: Plltxe po nìtsleng!
He speaks falsely/he lies!
Player: Ma tsmuke, ftang!
Sister, stop!
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Aha'ri: Ma Nor? Ma Nor, tìtxen si. Awnga ngahu, tam.
Nor? Nor, wake up. We [are] with you, it’s ok.
Nor: Tsat oel uniltsola nìmun…tsatxon a fol awngat kämolunge.
I dreamed about it again…that night they took us.
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Aha'ri: Awnga kä ne kelku!
We go home!
Player: Za'u, ma Teylan. Oeng kivä ne kelku.
Come, Teylan. We [may] go home.
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domestic jayroy things:)
Jason, not looking up from his book: no, Roy, you're not starting a pyramid scheme
Roy: You didn't even consider it- Wait, what, it's not a pyramid scheme!?
Jason:
Roy:
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ship that consists of person A (in love with a divine being that can never love them back) and person B (human husk who used to be possessed by the aforementioned celestial power, but isn’t anymore). both A and B are using the other as a proxy for the divinity they can’t access again 🤩
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I wish some ppl understood that when I say stuff like "L and Near are autistic" or "Light Yagami is not straight", I'm not saying these things because I believe the creator of Death Note intended them to be read this way, in fact I think he'd be against this interpretation completely, but ultimately those are the characters he wrote, intentionally or not.
A detached random example so you'd get what I mean: If you write a female character, who for example, can grow facial hair, it would be correct to say said character is either transfem or has PCOS, even if the creator never intended or realized that the aformentioned groups of women exist when writing the character.
I wish people understood that this applies to queer/neurodivergent/etc. readings of characters in general.
Like yes, I know Ohba wrote Light completely disinterested in women because he wanted to showcase Light's god complex, that Light is so detached from an average man that he wouldn't even indulge in romantic love or sexual desires, as it's below him. I know this is the intent, but when you write a man who repeatedly shows a clear lack of attraction to women throughout the entire story, you wrote a queer man (ace or gay, but definitely not straight).
With Near and L, I know Ohba wanted to write two eccentric genius type characters, but he gave them so many traits that are common with people on the high-functioning end of the autistic spectrum- that he accidentally wrote two neurodivergent characters.
Intent doesn't matter, it matters what you wrote in the text.
And ultimately, no matter what the author says, when you create art meant to be consumed by an audience, that work becomes shared with every single person impacted by it. Your word is final when it comes to the intended vision, but it is not the only reading that matters. As long as someone is able to make a concrete argument for their interpretation of a work, even if it's completely different than the authorial intent, it still holds meaning and value, although it's a different type of media analysis. (Especially in cases such as this when the text itself supports this reading, even though it's unintentional)
Anyhow sorry for the rant, I was on Death Note Reddit and saw people being dumb about ppl making a queer reading of Light's character or an autistic reading of L and Near and wanted to ramble about how they fundementally misunderstand why ppl say these things. Like we know Ohba didn't intend it, we just don't care!
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