I always get a bit annoyed when ppl call sejanus dramatic, or that his literal suicide attempt wasn't well-thought, because like... if I was in his position, I would've done much WORSE.
because look. imagine you're a child, then you're ripped from everything you knew and loved, you're ripped from your home, and forced into a hostile environment where everyone around hates you for something you can't control. you and your family face violent xenophobia constantly, you're bullied and harassed, you have no friends at all (to the point you consider a friend a person who isn't hostile to you). you don't really have much of a perspective of future, you're alone. then someone you knew from your childhood and you cherish dearly the memory of them get reaped into the hunger games and you're forced to mentor them, and now they refuse to even accept food from you. oh, and guess what?? then they get killed in a violent and graphic way, in live television!!
like my GOD. the real surprise is how he didn't snap much earlier.
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Joker's motivations in Joker War
Now idk if I was the only one initially confused by wtf Joker's actual intentions were in Joker War. Maybe I'm just a bit schewpid and everyone else got it but regardless here's my attempt to piece together what's going on in his weird little mind.
Imho, the first lines we get about Joker's underlying intentions are here:
It's extremely important that he was aware of Bruce's intentions to redesign the city. That was definitely the catalyst for the whole thing.
Speaking of Bruce's plans to redesign the city:
He mentions multiple times that his goal is to build a city that doesn't need a Batman.
Regardless of whether he actually mentioned something like this at a press conference or something, I'm sure Joker would be able to pick up on it anyway.
And it's very well-established that Joker needs Batman. The Best Man arc has this whole beautiful monologue about it:
Joker NEEDS Batman. A city without Batman is a city with no place for Joker.
The whole Best Man arc takes during the same year (year 17) as Joker War (prior to it, obviously).
The Batcat engagement took place in year 16. (In which Batman also had Joker locked up in his basement. And he deliberately tracked down amnesiac!Joker and made him Normal Joker again so he could get information. Yowza! Not cool, Bats.)
Additionally, the events of Endgame took place on year 15 and Death of the Family in year 14.
Joker reveals more of his motivations in the final fight scene between him and Batman:
Very interesting that Joker initially chooses to stab Batman in the back. Hmm I wonder if that has any deeper meaning or reveals anything about Joker's own feelings in this situation /sar.
Also very, very, very significant that Joker chooses to battle Batman in that particular suit, after he essentially desecrates it:
So, by now, it's apparent that Joker's direct intention with Joker War was to essentially destroy the possibility of Bruce's vision of Gotham:
He even directly says that all of this was about them.
Hm... I don't think he's just talking about the city, here...
And then we have this:
There's been a recurring theme since Death of the Family, that Bruce isn't being the Batman that Joker wants him to be.
To me, this line feels like "okay, Batman is ruined irreparably, let's just destroy him and start over from scratch."
Then we have this panel. Whew. I think this might be one of the most revealing panels in the entirety of Joker War, largely because of how Joker is depicted in it.
He doesn't look angry, he looks genuinely distraught.
And I didn't notice this until someone else pointed it out but if you zoom in, it definitely looks like he's crying.
I don't think this is just an artistic thing, largely because of this panel from a few issues back:
So those are definitely tears of laughter. But it looks roughly the same. Except based on the context and his expression, I don't think those are tears of laughter in Joker War. At the very least, he's hysterical.
Somewhat of a tangent but it's important to tie everything together: Joker War reminds me very much of DOTF and Endgame in that Joker is depicted (or tries to portray himself) as this terrifying, ruthless, inhuman thing, but if you actually look into his motivations, he's being driven by his emotions, particularly his feelings about Batman, which are almost inarguably the most human part of him.
In DOTF he talks about how Batman isn't being the Batman he wants him to be and yadda yadda, but then in the tie-ins, we have this section, which I think does a beautiful job of explaining his real motivations:
It's jealousy. Jealousy and fear. He's terrified of losing Batman.
And then there's a similar thing in Endgame.
Initially, he says this:
"Haha yeah I'm just bored of you lol."
But then in the final scene we get this:
He's not bored, he's heartbroken. He's genuinely hurt by Batman (in his perception) rejecting him, and he's lashing out in a major way.
I think it's definitely similar in Joker War, except he's not as afraid of losing Batman to the Batfam, more so he's afraid that Bruce's new design for the city will eliminate the need for a Batman, although the Batcat almost-wedding and Bruce's growing family definitely play a role in his motivations.
I think that might be where his whole idea of making Batman start over with nothing came from. Because when Bruce started, he didn't really have anyone except for Alfred, and later Dick.
I think that Joker could tolerate him having a few allies but he can't handle the idea of Batman having an actual family. Both because he doesn't want to share Batman's attention, and because he doesn't have a family, so why does Batman get to have one? Why does Batman get to connect with people when the only person he's truly connected to is Batman? He wants Bats to be as dependent on him as he is on Bats.
So, that's just my Hot Take (read: mediocre interpretation) of Joker War. I wasn't too fond of the storyline until I kinda pieced everything together and it's still not my favorite arc but I definitely like it better than I did initially.
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Alright I'm eating, I gotta spill out the Hamilton x FNAF bs haunting my brain
To get this over with, Glam Freddy is Hamilton and Monty is Burr. Look, as far as I know, there aren't any other fnaf characters that have a subtle rivalry with each other to this extent... it made sense to me.
Classic Freddy (the original) is Washington, I specifically pictured C. Freddy telling Glam Freddy that "History has its eyes on you" and it just... hit. It hit even harder when I listened to the song again.
Schuyler sisters.. Classic Chica is Angelica, Funtime Chica is Peggy, and Glam Chica is Eliza (look I don't ship Fredica but it grew on me). I think Mariah Reynolds is probably Toy Chica...? Maybe. Idk.
How can I forget Layfette, I think Classic Foxy might be him. Glam Bonnie is Laurens (*sobs*), oh and Mulligan is Funtime Freddy. Chaotic trio...
Jefferson is Funtime Foxy and Madison is Lefty.
And to make this even more interesting (and sadder), Gregory is Phillip. Don't ask me the logistics behind Glam Freddy and Chica having a human child, shut up. Gregory is Phillip and it's gonna make me sad AAAAH.
...Charles Lee is Toy Freddy.
Anyways that's all I have now, I can shut up and go eat my oatmeal.
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