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Indirect me all you want but Feysand still shits on your fave ship and I don’t care to engage with your poorly written text posts where you give a meager attempt to come for my morals. It was an A for effort though and it’s always cute to see people investing time in their interests and hobbies! Go team!! 🫶🏻🫶🏻
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princessyuwa · 3 years
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Guys guys guys don't you get it? Mor and Cassian are the reverse "straight girl & gay best friend" duo of the series - Mor isn't being possessive, she's just being protective of Cassian.
You know the common trope of the straight girl's intended male love-interest getting hostile with her gay best friend? Well SJM just did a genderbend version of that.
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kayla-2 · 2 years
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People would rather critic and shame Feyres reaction to the abuse in her life than the actual people who do it to her. (I’m not saying she is perfect or can’t make mistakes) but she’s expected to respond in a nice, gentle way and anything outside of her begging and crying is unacceptable. She’s even required to forgive and forget the people that made her life hell if they show an ounce of “regret” Sometimes, they are the same people she sacrificed herself to save. People who wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t for her.
Antis give the exact definition of her abuse that her experience has to fit or it didn’t happen or isn’t serious enough. They give her boundaries on how she can respond to her abuse. They also give fake sympathy to other characters to dismiss her trauma. Antis don’t give a shit about Lucien abuse from tamlin. If you look through their accounts, the only time they bring it up is to hate feyre or explain why elain has to be tied down to him or something. The “Why don’t anyone talk about the abuse Lucien went through” post is ONLY to hate feyre, it’s never brought up otherwise. They don’t even acknowledge Lucien own regret with his role in Feyres entanglement with the spring court.
They don’t care about the “injustice” the spring court faced in acowar. It’s ONLY brought up with feyre. If they really cared they would mention the conditions and abuse tamlin put his court through BEFORE and AFTER feyre..Maybe bringing up that bargaining your entire court for the woman you abused is bad. They would bring up that the spring court was ALREADY displaced by tamlin because of his dealings with Hybern before feyre did anything. They would bring up tamlin innate actions that helped fuel Feyres agenda. They would bring up his lack of action for 50 years. But no, you won’t hear any of that, because it’s not actually about feeling bad for the court. It’s about being anti feyre. It’s the same for every “issue” they bring up
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dreaminginvelaris · 3 years
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feyre anti: even feyre said she was just as bad as nesta! they were both horrible to one another!
me: okay bet show me where feyre was like nesta. show me where feyre threatened to rip out nestas throat. show me where feyre constantly goes out of her way to insult her. show me where feyre uses nestas insecurities to bring her down. show me where feyre has malicious intent to hurt nesta. show me the proof. last i checked we read nestas pov and not once did nesta ever mention a memory of feyre doing something so awful to her the way she constantly did with feyre.
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FEYRE PUTTING HER ALCOHOLIC SISTER IN A HOUSE TO GET HER AWAY FROM ALCOHOL ISN’T THE SAME THING AS WHAT TAMLIN DID TO HER, PASS IT ON!!
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ivystitches · 2 years
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for fucks sake
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wlwinry · 3 years
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uhhh ive never done one of these but here goes! im looking for new people to follow, so interact with this post if you like, post about, reblog/make content for:
fmab or the manga (not a big 03 stan, but as long as you dont hate/shit on/constantly compare bh to 03 then we’re also good)
pokespe (the pokemon adventures manga)
percy jackson and the olympians
acotar series (but please no die-hard nesta stans/feyre bashers, as i really like feyre)
the infernal devices trilogy
the mortal instruments trilogy 
pokemon (the games)
six of crows/grishaverse
the illuminae files
im trying to find more people to talk to about bookish stuff since my irl pals dont read the same books as me, so please give this a like and and/or an rb! pro-shippers dni
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nesquik-arccheron · 2 years
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I've seen some anti-nesta posts about how they don't think Nesta going to the wall to try and get her back was good enough. They get really agressive about it when anyone confronts them on it, even when it's in a respectful way.
Hey nonnie,
I get the frustration, some of these conversation can get very out of hand. I see some of these post, and I usually just DNI. Talking to them is like talking to a brick wall, so I don’t ever insert myself into their convo’s (though I do not mind reblogging posts talking about it, others are usually more articulate then me in their rebuttals).
Frankly, Nesta could literally die defending Fey//re, and they still wouldn’t think it’s enough. They want her submissive to her, they want her to feel indebted to her, they love to hold her transgressions over her head, they want her to bow and beg Fey//re for her forgiveness. If they were honest, they have no intention of actually forgiving her regardless of any way it plays out, so I never understood why they play it off as such.
It’s fine, I honestly do not care if they hate Nesta, their opinions mean nothing to me in the grand scheme of things, my opinion on Nesta will never change. They would happily watch Nesta die for Fey//re and still write paragraph after paragraph on how Nesta still didn’t do enough and doesn’t love her, so what’s the point in arguing???
I think the only thing both sides agree on is they want a talk between them both, but the difference I think lies in the end result. IMO Nesta Stan’s want peace between the sisters, the Fey//re stans want submission and servitude.
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colorlesschristmastree · 10 months
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people want a female lead character who can kick ass, who takes revenge on their abuser, who is still kind and soft but is down to murder for her loved ones yet feyre has antis it makes no sense luvs
Disagree nonnie, they have every reason to hate Feyre because she doesn't allow them to pretend that being cruel to others as a coping mechanism is an okay thing to do. Unlike nestle they can't project their desire to be mean to others onto Feyre. So many of these women dream of the chance to tear someone down who they think wronged them because that's empowerment to them.
Feyre makes them feel ashamed of themselves because she sets an example they don't actually want to match. I'd be anti Feyre too if being cruel was girlbossing to me.
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I really don’t care about Rhys and Feyre stans going online and saying foul shit because it proves nothing when Nesta and Tamlin stans are just as disgusting. Yet y’all get so upset when people bring it up talking about how it’s generalizing. The people on your side of the fandom are just as disgusting, misogynistic, rape apologizing, pieces of shit. Go refill your prescription for copium and stop bitching.
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I’ve been seeing this really weird take that the only reason Rhysand initiated the intervention in acosf was because he wanted to use Nesta and get control over her and make her do his bidding..
And I mean this in the most respectful way possible but.. what use did she have? Like genuinely what do you think she was gonna bring to the table that was so essential you think he had to manipulate her?
The dread trove plot wasn’t even a thing when that initial intervention happened, and they fully planned to get Elain to do it before Nesta threw a fit over it.
So what great big use did she have?
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The thing about the valkyries vs Feyre thing is that Feyre is canonically a fighter and very smart. It has always been a part of her character. She teaches herself how to hunt at a very young age and how to swim. She comes up with the idea for the wyrm in the moment, she’s always been a very adaptable kind of character so her learning how to fight and being a good fighter is not uncharacteristic of her. However the valkyries, Nesta especially, have never shown any characteristic of being good at fighting. Nesta even says why should she learn how to fight when other people can do it for her. It’s so out of the blue and unrealistic for her to all of a sudden be an incredible and passionate warrior. And for them to just train for a few months and be able to best a bunch of warriors who have been training for much longer? Sorry it just makes no sense whatsoever
You're so right! See while I've always thought that the blood rite plot was a hot mess and Nesta becoming some gworl boss warrior was silly, I've tried not to draw too much attention to the latter. Because like,, people can change, and I do respect that within the canon (regardless of my gripes with it) Nesta DID work really hard while training with Cassian. She did become stronger and is now committed to being a fighter and a valkyrie, and as stupid as I think it is I respect that it's canon now.
But a lot of the stans of the valks take the fact that Nesta is a warrior now and use it to strip away all of the existing aspects of Feyre's character that you mentioned. Nesta is just barely becoming a warrior, she's spent only one book with anything related to fighting and being a warrior being a character trait of her, yet somehow for some people in the fandom she's automatically this way better fighter than Feyre and always has been? Feyre actually can't fight at all and only ever just got lucky? It's stupid. They can't just be happy that Nesta is strong now, they have to try to use it as a gotcha and erase the fact that while Nesta had to be spoonfed the ability to do things on her own and take care of herself, it's a skill that Feyre has always had.
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Feyre girlies love you! Ignore those hags they’re just pressed their faves are being called out on a daily and that they can’t run with the delusional narratives they’ve been spinning for years. People are finally checking them on their bs so they’re trying to come for us and it’s so funny to watch 💕
SJM should’ve BEEN called her fandom out for being intentionally wrong about her heroine and I kinda blame her for it continuing for so long that her fandom turned into this. Authors always speak out when it gets bad she’s the only one who doesn’t. Prob cause she can’t handle seeing critique of work she knows is flawed or something, but still. Even GRRM speaks out about fandom takes that are delusional, Leigh bargdugo, Holly Black, etc.
Aw thanks babe! I love all of the Feyre girlies. And you're right, so many of their takes are just massive stretches of the text that you can't even take them seriously. They're such pseudo intellectuals it's genuinely funny. There are some Nesta stans who dislike the ic and much prefer the valks and hessian that I don't really mind? Yk they still have genuine enjoyment of the series and maybe are a pinch delulu but that's fine, but certain individuals are just so fucking ridiculous. I can't even understand them because they don't like any of the characters, they don't like the writing, they don't like any plot choice made in any of the books, they won't like any future books, they won't like any future plot choices made, they think every single ship is abusive, they think the narrative is against them and that they know better, they think that the characters they like being the ones considered to be bad people is wrong because the narrative (the author of the books made a decision they don't agree with) is wrong. They're really just.. pathetic people? I feel genuine pity for those bloggers. They're so hateful and angry and will never have a good time reading these books. They think they're doing people a service by spreading the good word that these books are bad and pointing out their issues with them, and I get that to a point. But these are blogs that have talked about the same things for YEARS. They dedicate hours of their time to this, to being hateful and bitter crybabies whining about how pathetic everyone else is, all while disguising themselves as thoughtful. It's one thing to make a few posts about why you hate these books, to leave a nasty scalding review on goodreads slamming it and people who enjoy it, but making thousands of posts doing so? Very very deranged.
Sorry for that little rant, I definitely agree with the second part, but only to an extent. Cause the thing is SJM has shared her thoughts on certain things, she just doesn't frame it in a way that comes off as correcting readers. Her saying things like "Tamlin is a douche", "I'd never want to go to the SC because of Tamlin.", "Nesta dislikes Rhys because she doesn't understand him but we know he's actually a great guy." and other related things is her commentary and her subtle corrections of fandom misunderstanding. They just don't care because they hate her and insist she's a biased author for writing her books and her characters the way she intends to.
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Idk why Feyre antis like to pretend that a good portion of the fandom hates Rhys and Feyre, or that SJM messed up when writing the books because everyone hates Feysand when this is objectively not true.
Maybe here on tumblr the Nesta stans are particularly loud but Feysand IS well liked by the fandom as a whole. I see posts about them on all platforms (tumblr, tiktok, facebook, instagram) every single day. Plus not every reader of the books engages with the fandom, most people do in fact like Feyre.
It’s great that you don’t like her, I’m happy for you! But please don’t pretend that just because you and your mutuals don’t like her, that shes this violently and widely hated character and that you speak for the majority of the fandom when you criticize her and Rhysand. I get enough notes on my blog to know that there are plenty of people who like Feyre just as much as I do.
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kayla-2 · 3 years
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I loved Acosf Feyre.....
I’ll never understand how Feyre gets called out the ONE time she put her foot down towards nesta. She found a new family that appreciates her and is a fresh high lady still trying to find her place in the world and that one sentence that gets pointed out in the conversation is when she said that nesta was embarrassing her. She even said it after nesta was arguing with her just because she stopped nestas unhealthy spending habits that was hurting herself, rather than helping.
She didn’t blame her, immaturely tell her never to speak to her again. Feyre took the blame herself for NESTAS own spiraling and thinking that space would help. She didn’t spend years berating nesta. She didn’t need nesta at every waking moment and not consider nestas feelings. But the minute she says that she was embarrassed, which is a natural reaction that we all feel, it’s an issue???
She didn’t get mad at Nesta when nesta used her death as a argument point and literally told her own sister that she was going to DIE, just to hurt her.
She kept her anger towards Rhysand, and rightfully so. It was dangerous to dump that aspect of her pregnancy on Feyre, stress is real, what if Feyre fainted or got so overwhelmed. Feyres powerful and She could’ve injured herself and her baby. But no she was calm and made sure Nyx felt nothing and said she would fight for her baby.
Feyre is literally the absolute best, seeing her in nestas point of view really shows how mature she is while being extremely young. Feyre was the only thing that kept me reading that damn book.
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kayla-2 · 3 years
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If you are dismissive of Feyres trauma, please continue to scroll
So when are we going to have this conversation. Because this fandom cry for “ woman can be morally grey” and “woman doesn’t have to be nice to everyone” BUT if you even mention any of the messed up things Feyre has said to nesta it’s excused as “sibling fights” or “not liking perfect woman” or “misogynistic”
“Amren slut-shamed nesta”
Meanwhile Nesta: “At least I don’t have to resort to rutting in the hay with Isaac Hale like an animal.”
She called her OWN sister an animal for having sex! Did you crucify her the same way you did amren? Because if you can stomach nesta saying that to her little sister, who probably was using sex as an outlet because she went out risking her life everyday, just BLOCK me. Because this is and will always be disgusting.
There’s literally something nesta says that can match amren and Morrigan , maybe even ten times harder. You have to keep the same energy for all the girls.
Nesta has years-years of acting like amren did towards her and it’s all excused away but amren and Morrigan said something in one book and it’s an issue.
If you can stomach the things nesta says, you can stomach the things Morrigan and Amren said. Or just admit you want all of nesta friends to be some submissive dolls that does what she want and not call her out on ANYTHING and you are upset amren and Morrigan ain’t it.
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