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foyiiwae · 7 months
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The QSMP meetup got me thinking (and slightly emotional cause they're so cute).
And a little bit of DSMP discourse here so if you're not wanting to hear that then I'm sorry, these are just the thoughts in my head and I don't want to start fighting.
The thing DSMP was lacking I feel was that...community aspect. You had the small factions (like L'Manburg early on, but Las Nevadas e.t.c.) but everyone felt separate. Now I understand DSMP was created as a SMP for streamers and the original intention wasn't roleplay until a Mr. Wilbur Soot came along. (I wasn't there for the beginning and I only watched Philza so my knowledge of lore comes from my sibling).
But with QSMP, you can tell they genuinely enjoy each other's stories. Like, and I've said this before, I'm a DM for 3 D&D games. I've been running D&D for a long time as primarily a rp DM. Group roleplay goes really well if it's not just your characters story you take into consideration, you're not the main character. And they do. They work together and they're very much that found family vibe.
I know there was some awkwardness on DSMP for people not giving certain characters enough 'screen time' especially not big streamers had a lot more difficulties. I know QSMP isn't perfect, and the issue can still arise (I only watch English streamers admittedly as English is my main language, but I dabble in Spanish to help with my understanding of the language). But even with the language barrier, people feel heard, smaller streamers, bigger streamers, their plots and stories have equal importance. People care.
There is faction war and in fighting and distrust, but it all seems to be done respectfully and with the consent of other content creators. They seem to talk to each other. It helps that the server has admins that work hard to include characters and their storylines, and work to tailor discoveries to the individual characters, but make it work for others too. Tubbo finding books, Fit finding old buildings, Baghera and her entire arc (I love her please I want to see more). Etolies and his current descent, BBH too.
Yes there are individual pairings, and groups, and factions, and war. But it's all roleplay, they genuinely all like each other.
It's what makes hermitcraft such a good server to watch, that commradery and friendship. True they don't roleplay as much, but their little events like the King arc, and the button, and now with Decked Out, they genuinely get along and have a good time. And I feel the same can be said for QSMP which is why it is doing so well.
...this got really long, and I'm rambling, and I'm just so happy to see a roleplay server doing it right. Yes it's not perfect, that's the problem with the internet and discourse and you can't please everyone. But they're trying so hard, and it's enjoyable to see it.
I'm also really excited to see what happens next for everyone so pls...
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isa-ghost · 7 months
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tubbo x fred for ship bingo? also thoughts on qtubbo in general if okay?
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They're the. Relationship ever. not /p not /r not /sx but a secret fourth thing
Also I love qTubbo so far :D He's so smart and bold and yet still so lovingly pathetic at times. Not a wet cat but not bone dry. It's a breath of fresh air to see Toby playing a character so individual because, and I'm saying this as a HUGE clingyduo lover & cTommy pov main, it was so fucking tiring seeing cTubbo reduced to "Tommy's right hand bestie" or "silly traumatized depressed loner goat boy." There's layers to cTubbo that were so slept on by the wider dsmp community it makes me boil harder than pasta water. River Egopocalypse is the only person I follow who I trust with cTubbo. Precious cargo.
Really really hoping qTubbo gets done better by the community, all the ways his love for Create & factories, his love for the eggs, his curiosity about the island & Cucurucho, & his allegiances to other islanders could intersect to weave into a complex character with so much worth sinking your teeth into is SO exciting :D Toby said he's been writing lore ideas, I'm sooo hyped.
Ship Bingo Game
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bonesandthebees · 28 days
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I care about Rose! In fact, we started watching house of dragon (only 2 episode so far though) and it constantly makes me think of Rose because you use it as inspiration. Like obviously there’s the coronation scene which reminds me of stars. And there’s the character Willum is sorta kinda inspired by. And it’s an entirely different world, but every time I’m drawn back to Rose wondering how things will play out. (Which is not pressure to finish writing it if you don’t want to. Writer’s block can be a bitch and I get that the motivation for this project has been sucked out, but I just want you to know that I still care, and I’m not the only one.)
Also, I’ve been meaning to start my Ready, Set, Detonate analysis but I keeps getting away from me. I’m not sure there will be much to analyse, but there’s definitely fun details I want to point out. Oh and I am Looking 👀 at the fit/pac tag and kicking my feet. I don’t actually know if they are already in a relationship (I’m sure we’ll find out, but I just loved Fit’s little “Pac’s here?” That man is gone. Oh and I’m so excited for this Tubbo and to read more Bagi and the lore. Just all of it.
Then the original writing is a mood. I keep getting like a few chapters into my story before deciding it’s not good enough or thinking of something else I could do and throwing it all out. It’s this constant loop that never seems to get anywhere even though the story gets more and more fleshed out in my head every time. I think it’s because the opportunities are endless. Like there’s no characters and personalities and dynamics to stick to like there is in fan fiction. It’s free game but that does mean you have to decide everything yourself.
Anyway, best original writing advice I can give is remember the drafting process. There’s going to be a shit ton of drafts, which feels different for you because you’ve been mostly writing stories and posting them as you go, which means some minor or major editing, but leaves you without a chance to do a once over. It’s a sort of pressure to get everything right the first time. Meanwhile, original writing is something you keep close to your chest. There’s different drafting stages ranging from the zero draft (aka excessive daydreaming about all the possibilities) to the final draft (where you just go through and kill all your darlings and pour over ever single word to find the right one).
I’m struggling a lot with the first draft, which is literally just getting words onto a page. It’s a somewhat coherent mess that just allows you to shape the story and its structure so you can work off of that and edit it later on. I don’t know if this actually helps, but yeah, the first draft sucks and then it mostly gets easier. Just write, is kinda shitty advice, but it’s mainly, just get words onto a page, you will get a million chances to fix it, you don’t need to be happy about what you wrote right now.
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ohhhh I'm so excited you've started watching hotd!! good timing since the second season is going to come out later this year :D I hope you enjoy!! and I'm so happy to hear you're still excited about rose. I definitely want to finish writing it, like I said it's just me worrying about if anyone will bother to read it but a lot of you have said you would so that helps assuage my worries a bit
feel free to send whatever random thoughts you have about ready set detonate you know idc if it's analysis or not I just love seeing peoples reactions!! fit and pac are not in a relationship (yet) in the fic but theres a lot of flirty pining going on lol
god yeah it's so much harder with original fiction because it feels like there's so much pressure. you have too much freedom to do whatever you want so you're constantly second guessing if it's good enough or not. and ofc I know rough drafts are supposed to be shitty but I've tried to hone my skills so that my first draft is always incredibly solid because I rarely have the patience to do heavy edits, but that's with fanfiction. it has to be different with original fiction I know but it's hard to make my brain okay with that. I keep feeling like it needs to be nearly perfect on the first run :( but yeah I'm mostly trying to get words on a page. but then I think back and realize I forgot to mention this or I need to mention more of that etc etc and it's just stressful arghhh
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pomellon · 1 year
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for the dsmp dragons au, what about tommy, tubbo, ranboo, wilbur, phil, and techno?
Here's what I thought would make sense for them Tommy Class: Scout would work well, but I also feel like healer would be interesting Element: Lightning I feel is the most fitting Tubbo Class: I think he would begin as a scout but later grow into a guardian during the start of the equivalent of manburg and into snowchester Element: Earth is the only one that really fits him. It also works in contrast to tommy, since he is the one that grounds him and calms his storms Ranboo Class: Scholar but he's really bad at it so maybe scout? Element: Honestly no idea, he's just a funky little guy. Maybe two like foolish? Wilbur Class: While different classes can fit different arcs of his, I feel like Scholar can encompass him as a whole Element: Light at the beginning but then the claim is revoked and given to Shadow during the pogtopia era and revivival? Phil Class: Guardian, not as big as most of the others though Element: Air for birb or Ice for antarctic empire callback, fits both descriptions Techno Class: Guardian, maybe ex-scholar to show his studious side Element: Carnage of course, and then maybe Ice for the same reasons as Phil?
Wow, you pretty much hit the nail on the head with what I had planned for everyone :o! 
The only difference is that I really want Tubbo to start as a nurse and later change to guardian, partly because it gives me the option to keep some fluff on him later :D I also haven't quite decided on Ranboo's element yet but I'm leaning towards arcane, since arcane magic is gonna have a whole thing in this setting. But he's probably gonna be a scholar turned scout!
Elements in general are all going to be pretty special for this au! Since it's post mass-extinction and there's not a lot of dragons or other elemental creatures alive, the gods have lost most of their sight into this world. They're not aware of the dragons unless they use a magic item crafted by the gods themselves, if they are bonded with a magic familiar that has strong connections to a god, or if they get into an area or situation where a lot of magic courses through them.
This is why in the current list some characters aren't listed with an element yet. It's because at the start of the au they're still grey eyed, despite most of them being old enough to have gotten a claim.
Out of the ones listed Bad, Foolish, Karl, and Phil (he's air btw, very skilled in flight manoeuvring and aerial battles!) all have their claims because they got them before the mass extinction.
Punz, Sapnap, Techno, and Quackity all got their claims due to magic surges. Punz being forced into an electric chamber to basically force his magic to become lightning to use him as a live battery. Sapnap falls into a pool of lava and by dumb luck catches the attention of the Spirit of Flame. Techno is at the centre of a massacre which is noticed by the Maid of Bones, and Quackity is hatched within an earth domain.
Wilbur and Sam gain their claims by finding magic items. Wilbur (shadow) by pure luck, and Sam by studying and tracking one down. Boomer is bonded with a frog familiar from a colony blessed by the Watcher of Tides.
Other character's like Dream, George, Ant, Tommy and Tubbo will still be grey eyed through most of the au, but eventually gain their claims too!
I should also say that the plot and events of the au will not be following dsmp lore. Most of it is going to be focused on found family and survival, potentially with a deeper plot of everyone having to work together to fight of a growing void corruption, and regain the sight of the gods to heal the world.
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brick-a-doodle-do · 1 year
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Alrighty make my brain work to remember who’s in the DC universe again lol. (I may get peeps names wrong)
Batman au
I love the idea of Tommy just being really clumsy but trying to help lol. Gives him love: by making him a crime fighter lol
Now we love good ol Gotham city. Who ideally would fit commissioner Gordon and his daughter Barbara? I’d love to think we’d get someone to fit batgirl here at some point lol.
And honestly I love the idea of Dream as like the Ridler but better. He’s really crafty and just word games! But like that could also be Quackity because again: mind games lol but he’s the joker. Idk these 2 villains could really be either character I think
Also is Techno like the standard Bruce Wayne in this with the tragic backstory and is a billion still? I wanna know his origins lol
And and and is Techno definitely batman or are you sticking with Technos boar theme lore wise? I’m curious :3
Okie thanks for answering 🍭🍭🍭🍭🍭🍭❤️
AGHH thank you sm becky!! brainrot for this au is real and these are amazing :] (and dw it's been a while since i've been into batman. at least it's the easier dc universe and not whatever marvel has going on)
YES love him. i feel that kinda sums up part of his character cause techno just always says "why are you like this" when tommy is running around techno's house stealing stuff and breaking things LMAO
also wilbur himself has said tommy breaks everything he touches. so mini-giant tommy for the WIN
YES we do love a good ol crime infested gotham city >:)
hmm well i might make some changes with the significance of barbara in this au just to fit techno's character, especially with batman's attraction to her. also i want to play around with the whole c!techno being used as a weapon trait,,, i could technically have gordon be schlatt and barbara be tubbo, which would then solidify dream as superman,,,,
god damn it's hard mushing two fandoms together cause usually i just make a new setting for my aus but i have to keep traits from two characters :')
i could see tubbo as batgirl, kind of? just techno taking tubbo under his wing for a bit, like he did with tommy. this could also offer some clingyduo bonding. and some angst if i follow lore iykyk :3
and YEAH the riddler & the penguin are the two people i'd like to have figured out,,, i'm thinking maybe having jack be one of them, but i'm not entirely sure what c!jack is to c!techno and vice versa, but otherwise i wouldn't be opposed to it. jack i can see being the riddler,,,,, but YEAH i do like dream being them, but i think i'm going for superman being dream,,,
i'll need to pirate the batman movies at some point to refresh my memory because i can't keep relying on fandom wiki to help me 😭
techno does have the same backstory as batman pretty much. parents died in a similar fashion. the only different thing is how techno met phil,,,,
and as for his current self i'm not really sure how he got rich. bruce had like his whole company or smth i kinda forget,, anyway i'd say techno just worked really hard doing a lot of different stuff as a kid. maybe phil created minecraft and techno helped a LOT along the way and got a lot of the money from it 😭 both of those can be canon for now fjsdfj
after techno's parents died and he met phil n all, he went into a foster home but ran away from it pretty quickly just because he wanted to do things on his own. and besides, he had a tiny father-figure to help him, he'd be fine. like i said, he did a lot of neighborly chores and worked around the city with part-times to just get some stability,,\
i thought about it, but i'd say he's definitely batman for this au. don't worry i have another superhero au coming soon where he's more technoblade :D
thank you sm for the questions !! fun worldbuilding >:)
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issybettyx · 1 year
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I’m gonna infodump and ramble about dsmp lore because i’ve just watched all the sad-ist animatics and my brain is making me wanna scream about it
— // spoilers for dsmp, may be dark themes, some content may be triggering for certain readers. Everything is c! , unless otherwise specified
I’m gonna start my ramble with c!technoblade, because in my opinion his character is severely misjudged in several situations. I encourage discussion over this, but also someone got extremely angry at me once over this so as stupid as this is gonna sound please respect my thoughts please and thank you x
Techno joins the game to help out his friends, Tommy and Wilbur, in taking down a government that wronged them.
Reasons he did this:
1. To help his friends when they were in need of a power he held
2. To see the fall of a government - anarchy
3. Knowing him he probably had nothing else better to do
Just him joining the server shows his motives, his beliefs, and his relationships with other characters. He cares about his friends to put his life on the line, and canonically his citizenship in one of the only proper countries.
My man literally said “my friends are in need i’m gonna go help them :D”
And then, he told them his beliefs. He said how he was against government overall and wanted to take the government down, and wilbur and tommy went ‘yep great cool we can work with that’. So, Techno spent days upon days farming potatoes, grinding for netherite and potions and tnt and so so many things to help them take over the most powerful people on the server. Techno spent so much time on these people, he helped them take down the opposition in the war of manberg vs pogtopia.
And then they put a new president in power.
Wilbur and Tommy knew this directly opposed their most powerful ally’s only condition for his help, and Tommy was surprised when Techno betrayed them. Bestie, wake up, you literally betrayed him, ily but also- should’ve expected it.
Anyways, Techno’s like ‘literally everyone hates me, so ima run away to the snow to make them happier and i also can’t be arsed with government i’m gonna live alone in the snow’ and they go ‘hahahah no we’re the butcher army formed to unalive you’ and literally blackmail this man.
Did Techno kinda kill a bunch of people and spawn two withers? Yes. Does he deserve some kind of punishment? Probably. But if he’s literally left your country for the better of you and you actively seek him out to take his life? Yeah that’s not very cool of you man
Oh and not to mention they put his mate on house arrest and stole his things just to unalive him, that also wasn’t very cool.
What was cool however was Techno being an absolute badass and escaping with all three lives anyways. That man was literally in the worst position being blackmailed after trying to be peaceful and still got out alive. Then quackity got stabbed in the face with an axe, which was lowkey deserved seeing as he was holding Carl captive, like don’t bring animals into it what did they ever do to you? The pet war was enough pet stress thank youuuuu
After that was the exile stuff wasn’t it? Tommy’s just escaped from a toxic environment after an attempt on his life seeking refuge in his old friend’s home.
Now, this part is something that I absolutely love about Techno’s character.
Before this point, Techno had been wronged by Tommy. Tommy had gone against him, betrayed him, got mad at him for taking Tubbo’s life despite him not exactly having an option. Techno had no reason to let him stay. Not to mention Tommy hardly asked, he kind of broke in, stole his things and demanded it be his home and tried to kick Techno out.
And you know what Techno did? He offered protection, he offered help, he offered his home and he offered to be Tommy’s friend.
Despite literally everything he still went ‘sure tommy you can stay, and i’ll even help you get your discs back!’
And, omg, when he opened the door to the room with the wither skulls and said ‘no body’s seen this, not even phil’. Oh my goodness, shivers. Techno and Phil are like closest besties, Techno would trust Phil with his life, and he still trusts Tommy to see his hard work before anyone else.
Some would say it was a threat, Techno seeing the threat on this wanted exiled child staying under his roof and wanting to send a message to him to not even try and threaten him or his friends. Like for example when Tommy took Antfrost hostage and made him mine, tried to take Techno hostage and immediately backed off with the threat; Tommy knows how powerful Techno truly is, he couldn’t mess with him.
Personally, I would say it’s quite the opposite. It’s a way for Techno to say ‘i trust you, i’ll protect you no matter the cost’. Maybe that’s just my bedrockbros fluff loving brain, but remember when Tommy and Techno were surrounded by the server and Tommy decided to join them instead of stand beside Techno? And Techno said something along the lines of ‘i’ll fight them all off, you run’. He was literally willing to risk everything to get Tommy away safe, he was worried for him and was going to sacrifice his life.
And after everything Techno did for Tommy, he went back to the people who hurt him and away from the one person who’d offered him protection no matter how much he hurt him in the past.
And that fact, that Techno was going to sacrifice everything for a kid who cared little for him at all, hurts me way more than it should for minecraft roleplay.
I’m gonna be honest and say I have no clue what happened between then and Doomsday. Genuinely, I have zero clue, so I’m gonna watch some vods tonight of between then and doomsday to see how in hells name they got from tommy rejoining new l’manberg and techno, phil and dream blowing up new l’manberg and making it into l’manhole.
Anyways, this is the only part of c!technoblade that i just sit and wonder why he did that.
I’m assuming he was angry at them, angry at the butcher army for trying to unalive him and for putting phil on house arrest. He once said how if someone showed him kindness he would repay it tenfold, but if someone caused harm to his friends they would be absolutely fucked (not his words). They threatened Phil, and therefore they paid for it.
Do i agree with his reasoning? Not really no, but I can see where he was coming from. Spite is a powerful motivator.
His other part of reasoning would be the concept of anarchy, of taking down the government that was telling people what they should do. To be on Tubbo’s side here is literally the only right thing, as much as i love c!techno, Tubbo tried his best to protect his people and build a safe country, similar to early l’manberg but with a significant lack of dictators and discrimination. New L’Manberg was, all in all, a welcoming country, and Tubbo made sure of that.
And then, boom.
Literally it was all blown up.
After doomsday, not much happened for a while really. They just kinda chilled.
Then, you know what was formed? The absolutely awesome and infamous Syndicate, an anarchy group that is so incredible they did nothing but sound awesome. The Syndicate are literally my favourite people ever.
Boom Dream’s in prison, Quackity tricks Techno into going in, locks him in, Techno being absolutely awesome goes ‘how can i make the most of this? I know: gain knowledge’
So that’s what he does, forcing dream to write books on books of everything he knows before finally getting teleported out.
Now, for those who don’t know, Techno owed Dream a favour. Remember how i said Techno got his life threatened by the butcher army and got his horse Carl stolen? Yeah Dream kinda helped him get Carl back, smart move on his end, and made him indebted to Dream. So, Techno kind of had to get Dream out, and also got Ranboo out in the process? We never found out why Ranboo wanted to go into the prison so bad, I have a feeling it was his enderwalking or something but whatever.
Guess who dies? Ranboo. Jeez that was forever ago wasn’t it? Poor Tubbo he deserved so much better.
Then after that it was THE REVENGERS. The best trio ever who literally no one expected;
A traitor, an anarchist and an ex-president.
All joined together to save Michael the beloved, and to be horrible to Sam who literally let a prisoner, albeit a terrible person, be tortured and trap an almost but also kind of not innocent person inside with him (Techno did bad things but not bad enough to be in the main cell of Pandora’s Vault, that place was meant for someone as horrible as c!dream).
The Revengers was definitely one of my favourite streams; three people who are meant to hate each other putting aside their differences for one common goal, and coming out civil. I think it was pretty awesome, character development my beloved.
And that was basically c!techno. In summary, he was caring, protective of his friends, stuck to his beliefs, stuck to his word, strong, and he was able to put aside his emotions for the better of others on several occasions.
C!technoblade is one of my favourite characters, he was developed amazingly, his humour was fantastic. Everything he did for tommy and wilbur was more than he should’ve, he put his all into making sure others were okay even when he hated them. Did he blow up a few people and a few countries? Maybe. But he was awesome, and i find people misunderstand him a lot.
I could talk about c!technoblade for ages and not get bored, he’s so interesting and I could study his every action and continue to say how awesome he is, but we must move forward onto my next favourite character:
C!Wilbur.
Now, the difference between c!techno and c!wilbur is the fact that most of c!techno’s things i picked out were unintentional, whereas c!wilbur was so thoughtfully created and shaped into this selfish lying character.
Wilbur joined and immediately made a drug van, dragging Tommy with him. This drug van was developed into L’manberg, and Wilbur took his role as president seriously, fighting for his country’s independence. But you know who finally gained them independence after several walls and wars? A child who was dragged into the entire thing by his big brother, a child who gave up two of the most important things to him to give his older brother what he wanted most.
L’manberg gained independence, but Wilbur knew he was a dictator. Now, this, in my opinion, is the first time we see the real c!wilbur.
Wilbur says “let’s run an election but make me the only running candidate”, his first proof of manipulative nature that sends his country into literal ruins (butterfly effect is certainly something). Obviously, people are against this, especially Quackity who was rejected citizenship because he wasn’t european. Quackity was angry at Wilbur, and knew the best way to piss him off would be to take away what he built from the ground up.
Wilbur’s like ‘well fuck I gotta play this off’, which is his first time actively lying.
Election in summary: POG2020 (wilbur) gets 45% of the overall votes. SWAG2020 (quackity) loses. But, Schlatt had formed his own government (SCHLATT2020) and formed a coalition government with SWAG2020, together gaining 46% of the vote. Coconut2020 (fundy) gained the other 9%.
Wilbur and Tommy were exiled, Technoblade joined the server.
Now, exile was not easy on Wilbur.
For a while, he’d been sending letters to Philza, his Dad, and had started lying. Wilbur had wrote how he’d won the election, how he was doing well. Why would he lie? Phil’s his dad right? Philza is a caring character, he would love his son and help his son, why would Wilbur lie?
Well, he’d put all of his effort into building this nation, he probably felt weak admitting that he’d lost everything he’d created, how he’d let down Tommy and he didn’t want to admit that.
This was the start of Wilbur’s drive to insanity.
Exile absolutely destroyed Wilbur. He wanted to feel empowered, he wanted to have control. So, he took advantage of those around him.
What Wilbur truly wanted was his country back (though at the end of exile he felt like he had no choice, he felt like it wasn’t his and he gave it up), and he saw Techno offering his help and took advantage of it.
He saw Tommy willing to do anything for Wilbur, following his steps, wanting to become president because Wilbur was a president. He saw Tommy wanting to be the hero and led him in the revolution, made Tommy feel like he was a part of something bigger than himself. Wilbur was in control of Tommy, and he made sure to take advantage of this, making him feel weaker than he was capable of (“you’re never going to be president, Tommy”) so he would listen to and follow his every word and command.
Manberg vs Pogtopia, they win. But Wilbur’s lost all sense of self; he isn’t the courageous respected man he once was, but a shell of him, and he knows this.
// suicide - ends at next double forward slash (//)
Wilbur gets his country back, and he puts Tommy in charge. A child who had to grow up too fast, a child who’s been under his brother’s arm and also his control without knowing, a child who was exiled aged 16 who was dragged into a horrid world full of death and horror.
Tommy had gone through so much, and so he handed over the country to the person he trusted the most; Tubbo.
Wilbur, meanwhile, leaves, knowing Technoblade will betray them in to go to the button room (i swear it has a name i just don’t remember it), where his father - who in fact he’s been lying to for however long - shows up and stops him. His song is etched into wood on the walls, an example of his identity, of his life’s work, of his love for singing and his entire reasoning for living. And his father shows up, telling him to stop, telling him there’s more to life, that his symphony doesn’t have to be unfinished. (“My l’manberg! Phil! My unfinished symphony forever unfinished!”)
Wilbur feels lost and alone. He’s manipulated his friends and lied to his father (cough cough c!wilbur’s two most distinctive traits cough cough). He knows he isn’t his father’s son anymore, he isn’t the kid who won the election, and this guilt eats him up so much he throws his sword at his father’s feet and orders him to kill him.
The country is blown up at Wilbur’s hand. In English Teacher Terms (ETT^TM), this symbolises him ending his manipulative and lying ways. Everything he built, lost, and got back has been destroyed, and his people stare at him as his father takes his final life.
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Limbo: Wilbur was stuck in a train station for like 13-14 years.
Ghostbur: everything good about Wilbur. For example, his love for his family. Ghostbur spends a most of his time with Tommy, Techno and Phil. He has friend on a lead, the blue of his wool a symbol for how Wilbur tried to help people but his efforts were completely pointless. Ghostbur gives people some blue wool to rid them of their worries. It’s a childish fantasy, it doesn’t work no matter how much he wishes it would. Alivebur did this a lot, he did things that he thought would help others but it just didn’t, but his want to help was still evident, ghostbur just lacks the manipulative negative side of that.
Revivedbur: he immediately starts a new country, it’s all he knows, a form of comfort after years and years of the same horrid thing over and over and over again. He drags another child with him, Ranboo, and finds nostalgia in Tommy’s presence and controllability. When Wilbur was in limbo, Tommy went through hell and back, and it takes ages for Tommy to admit this, showing the lack of trust he now holds for Wil.
The moment Wilbur realises what Dream did to Tommy in exile, he goes ballistic. Wilbur still cares about Tommy, he still manipulates him and makes him do his bidding, but Tommy is still his brother and he still cares so much for him, so much so he’s willing to unalive his ‘hero’ for him. This shows how much he truly cares for Tommy, but i believe this also makes him come a realisation that his presence around Tommy was negative.
He has this moment of realisation where he goes “this kid has been wronged, i need to protect him- but my presence never truly helped him, maybe he would be better without me?”
So he begins his plan to leave. (To utah which totally isn’t an allegory of death, which totally doesn’t correlate to when he lost his final canon life, i’ll go into that at the end) he realises truly how many people he hurt, and he goes around and apologises to them.
Most people prove his point. Most people, the conversations went a bit like this:
“I’m sorry.”
“It’s okay I forgive you.”
Proving that people so easily fall at the feet of those powerful enough, or at the feet of those they love most.
Despite being wronged, they still hold their love for Wilbur for all the good things he did.
The only person who didn’t forgive him was his son, Fundy, who’d let his hatred for Wilbur sink in literal years ago when he went against them as coconut 2020 in the l’manberg election. Fundy met the same fate as his father, and it made Wilbur realise that maybe he didn’t deserve a better death than his son had.
But he doesn’t want Tommy to know that.
Now, in Wilbur’s latest stream (qsmp day 1), he said how Utah was an allegory to death. And that got me thinking: why would Wilbur lie to Tommy?
As I said previously, two of C!wilbur’s main traits were manipulation and lying. After he was revived, he led everyone to believe that he was a changed man. After everything, after exile and limbo and the burger van, he said how he’d changed.
But he never really changed, did he?
C!wilbur was an example of someone who, deep down, never truly changed. The things that did change, however, was his motivations.
Wilbur continued to lie. He lied to Tommy about Utah, but he said he was changed didn’t he?
In exile, he lied to protect himself. He lied because he felt weak, he felt angry, and he didn’t want anyone to feel like they had more power than he did, that they knew him better than he did.
As a wise man once said, “If you know thy self, and you know thy enemy, you need not fear the result of a thousand battles.” (Or something like that). Wilbur knew that if his enemy, and even his allies, knew him, they could control him, they could see through him and his lies and his manipulation.
But, after Tommy told him about exile, his motives changed from protecting himself to protecting his loved ones. He wanted to protect Tommy, and throughout his whole life there was one thing he knew best, and that was lying.
// suicide - ends at next two forward slashes (//)
So when Tommy asked if Wilbur was going to unalive himself, he said no. He said he was going to Utah.
This showed he didn’t change in his ways; he didn’t find better ways to deal with things. But his motives changed.
C!wilbur once looked at c!tommy and saw a child full of potential. Before he left for “utah”, he looked at Tommy and saw a child who never got to be. So he protected him from the truth, so that any remaining youth in him could be saved.
As i said before with Techno, i could talk about c!wilbur for ages, i didn’t even talk about ‘the wilbur van’ or ‘healthy competition’ or a more in depth reasoning and symbolism behind ghostbur.
However this post is very long, and i’m very tired, and this has taken me like two hours to write and i haven’t even talked about c!tommy and c!tubbo yet, so that is a job for another day. If you somehow read all this way, i am firstly very proud of you, and secondly i hope you enjoyed my somehow brief infodump about dsmp, because i have been hyperfixed on this server for over two years and I never get to talk about it, so yeah :D
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C!disc duo anon here :D
c!tommy is obsessed but not to the degree c!dream is. Before exile, c!tommy was willing to destroy friendships. And also c!dream is probably still obsessed with c!tommy but I wouldn't jump to conclusions that he actively wants to go after him since he only went to go see punz then went to go return the axe to techno. He bumped into c!tommy by coincidence. I would like to expand on this if you'd let me and my last ask wasn't meant to be rude :D
(Also btw I'm a c!discduo enjoyer + I don't like cc!dream if that eases your worries :D)
i am a c!prime enjoyer myself anon not just a c!inniter. your opinions of the cc don't really make me worried or not worried! my tone for this is /nm (neutral tone)
Again I'll say that describing c!tommy's response as "obsession" is missing the mark of the c!Prime dynamic. The dynamic at current is c!tommy wanting to be safe, that is his only goal (+ to stick by the side of those he loves like c!wilbur and c!tubbo). And he wants absolutely nothing to do with c!Dream. He is not obsessed with him, he's quite frankly concerned about being trapped/dying again/being killed repeatedly/etc because c!Dream is actively after him. It's a perfectly valid and understandable response for someone who is danger from the person that abused him to be hyperventilant at the mention of c!Dream and the reminder of the fact he "doesnt know where he's at". To say that c!Tommy even seeks him out is false, he more so is trying to stay safe, which is why he had the bunker house comissioned.
And you say "don't assume", but he most definitely is after him. Watch the Green Smile that Haunts me stream. Watch the prison streams in which he told c!Tommy exactly what he'd do when he got out. Watch c!George's lore stream in which his dream suggested c!Dream may be going after Kinoko (which matches his thoughts to c!Sam and others in the prison). Watch specifically the parts of prison break in which c!Dream tries to trap c!Tommy within logsted until he luckily makes it to c!Phil in time with the promise of torturing him forever. He did not bump into c!Tommy by coincidence his first goal upon leaving the prison was to reinstate his power over c!Tommy and hurt him (even c!phil says something along the lines of "i cant believe the first thing he does is come after you" (paraphrased))
If you're going to enjoy the writing of the c!prime dynamic you have to understand their dynamic is one of power imbalance, that c!Dream is obsessed and is actively trying to control and hurt c!Tommy as a part of his many plans for the server, just like he did in exile. It's well written, i love watching it, but it's so fucking horrifying. Minimizing what c!Dream's done not only is incorrect about their dynamic, but it's disrespectful to the writing that the cc's have done
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Atherix atherix atherix. I am holding you gently in my hands. WHY DO YOU LOVE TO TOURMENT US SO-
If I may, the mimics can go take a long walk off a short pier. LET THE CHARACTERS BE HAPPY!! HAVEN'T THEY SUFDERED ENOUGH no, never. they are our blorbos and so must feel pain <3 And ok, yes, I hate the mimics. But from a storytelling aspect?? It's an amazing way to A, cause trauma (hehe) B, give a voice to the thoughts, feelings, + fears that maybe wouldn't be so clearly stated or dealt with otherwise, and C, cause conflict/bonding with characters. As a plot device? Incredible. As a character? They can die <3 Amazing.
And ohh! Wardens! Lore! Old stories! Skulk! This is definitely not gonna cause any issues at all whatsoever :) The lullaby though- ugh my heart. Just tubbo, his dads, and their creepy as hell children's songs ^u^ The family bonding has my heart 🥰
This is definitely only going good places :D
-Terrified as ever, 🍂
Hehehehe your fear fuels me <3
HJFSFHSK YESSSS. I love the Mimics. I hate them so much <3 I love what I can and will do with them. Y'all are gonna hate what I can and will do with them <3 LOOK. HAVING YOUR DEEPEST INSECURITIES AND WORRIES AND FEARS THROWN IN YOUR FACE IS SO GOOD. Also the trauma <3 Lovely. I eat this shit up <3 Can't wait to reveal what Mimics actually are. Or, more specifically- what these Mimics actually are :) (Context to come in next chapter hehe)
YESSSSSSS THE MYTHS AND THE STORIES MAKE A COMEBACK. And the introduction of Skulk. Or Sculk. Haven't decided how I'm gonna spell it once it's officially given a name haha- Children's lullabies are always creepy <3 I am glad I am love them <3
Hehehe of course :)
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sleepy i have more thoughts about the new chapter. specifically about ctubbo and how you managed to fix every single thing canon and fanon got wrong with him in just a few lines.
i'm sure you know about my very Unpleasant emotions about how cbeeduo started to Be towards chommy post cwilbur's revival. very mean boys. were not Kind to the chom and were honestly very cruel and flacky and bullyish. Bad times all round....for cbenchtro nation,,,,and then ofc hitting on 16 happened and cbeeduo were just chilling in cwilbur's range like it was no biggie when that was the supposed reason why they weren't near the chommito(leading to the only logical conclusion that it wasn't Wilbur that was the issue but Ctommy himesl. For some reason)
but!!!!! You fix!!! ctubbo realize it was dick move to cut contact with the chom!! feels like shit!! has to see what that kind of abandonment can result in!! sad boyo who turn to the D R ug(dsmp doesn't have a DARE program so ofc howcould he have known the danger....of the drug when Too Much)
just...rlly good....make me :) for the first time...in a while...about something canon-focused.......yea!!!
yeeahhhh back around the outpost vs las nevadas era when c!beeduo started being weirdly estranged from c!tommy, i was seriously so confused 😭😭😭 like we had just come off from the exposure therapy stream ... to this ?? 😭😭😭
but then after HO16 thats when i believe i started being like "oh that would make so much sense if it was because of c!tubbo's feelings towards c!wilbur"
but then the c!wilbur apology tour happened and neither the outpost shit nor HO16 was addressed by c!tubbo ever again and im liek "BOY..........ARE U FR RN.........." (seriously one of the biggest issues to come from the lore hiatuses, the ccs just start to forget important shit 💀)
and the thing is, before the c!tubbo portion of the apology tour, all the confusion behind c!beeduo's relationship with c!crimeboys could have been easily fixed had their ccs not forgotten the most recent lore events but alas 🙃🙃🙃
so i am really glad u liked what i did with it !!!!! <3333 c!tubbo LOVES c!tommy (and vice-versa obviously) so it simply makes no sense for them to have another falling-out, only for it to never be resolved again, thats simply not the c!clingyduo way, no sir
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Heal What Has Been Hurt Liveblog
hello and welcome to the first of 5 initial (but probably not Only) posts recounting my liveblogging of Heal What Has Been Hurt by @sunlitmcgee
ch1: and the universe said "I Love You"
c! tech did one (1) good thing and it was burning the egg
gogy mention/pos
its only ch1 and they've already gone DadMode. hasnt even even , talked to the boy yet/lh
XD :D
ch2:Flower Gleam and Glow
"weirdo mother hen guardian angel nanny thing." hehehe
moths moths moths moths moths
Clara :D
ch3: I've Been Ghosting Your Dreams
i wonder how tommy feels about warm rain
my browser crashed god dad is too powerful/j
ghostbur :DDD
oh i have so many feelings about ghobur
ch4:Come, My Child
not lots of thoughts just enjoying the domesticity of the bois
did enjoy the star freckles tho
ch5:Like A Busy Bee Taking Flight
"large purple man" thanos/neg
compass compass compass compass (im wearing my Your Tommy compass my bf bought me <3)
heheh dad said pogchamp
ch6:Flying Like a Bee, Black and Yellow Energy
hehe derivikat lyrics
xd dad god. why is that form even still in your rotation/lh
ranboo/pos. i love all Ranboos
hehehe time to sin!
c! techno/neg
xd having several children who are gods and can take care of themselves and having to focus your attention on the whole of creation is different than abandoning your litteral tiny children to go adventuring w a gladiator who hears voices
xd you could have shifted forms dont yell at them/lh
ch7:Cold. Why You Gotta Treat Me So Cold?
weird schlatt tubbo/neg nightmare tubbo/neg
GOD I hate exile
I am so emotional over them GODS
I need someone to be proud of me like xd is proud of tommy
I want a god dad. the yearning is strong
ch8: sweet like honey
any time someone writes tommy saying the phrase "ill be good" istg i feel my heart break
back sore, clue #1
micha 🥺
ch9: I Think You're All Insane
_beloved family/pos
PUFFY!!
every time i manage to forget the captain is dreams mom someone reminds me :/(/hj/nm/lh)
no more memory broke :D
am i using that emoji to much? i do not care<3
god enderman lore/pos
ch10: Deep In The Meadow
i also feel Okay. this is a good place to be
there is something so personal about tommy wanting to end the cycle of abuse and worrying he'll end up like the people who hurt him
good people have intrusive thoughts tommy:(
ch11:Here it's Safe, and Here it's Warm
hehehehe Wings also toms XD would never leave you :(
"you'll instinctively know" its not instincts if it hurts Philza
god i fucking love the personification of instincts. so much. its such a cool thing
ch12:Why, Tell Me, Father?
tommy has a perfect comfy bed and doesnt wanna move. mood
tommy is starting to heal and i love that for him/gen
how DID xd figure that out?
ive just decided just now while rereading that xd was too nice to phil
"you're still here" im gonna SOB
heal! emerald duo/neg
I wanna hug tommy :(
ch13:It's a Promise for Life Between Father and Child
what if i just [takes a white out pen to tommys trauma] look now hes just a lil guy! (someone do this to me)
[beats the doomsday bitches over the head with a stick] i will actually never be normal abt c!tommy
mmmm i should play omori
tinyboo. itty bitty
i dont wana read the interaction w technoooo [reads it anyways] its important
Ghobur! he back!
i think more people should let ghostbur get angry
ch14:How Would You Know?
idk how phil cant sense the Pissed Off aura xd must be giving off rn
in which xd is my spirit animal
:D(malicious)-XD
i like his hat :(
somebody please do this w my dad
ch15: Remember to be Patient
i am obsessed w instinct stuff. lil baby birb go peep peep
i was so lost in the euphoria of birb i forgot to have thoughts
ch16:Fold Up Your Wings, Close Your Eyes
WING TIME WING TIME WING TIME
"it's beautiful… except of course for the unholy screams"
xd " claws" and " adorable" are not generally words that go together
he is SAD the baby is SAD :(
what would xd do if tommy turned into an actual baby?
"its me?" AWWWW🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
hes a baby
i will kill any god for him
baby boy
precious
oh boo even *mentions* agere how did I miss that the first time? tommy is simply baby
ch17: See the Sunset
cant see glass<3
i want a cool space blanket (I have a non-binary flag space blanket tho :3)
I also like when things make click clack noises… am i birb?
I love hiiiiimmmmm
ch18:Nothing Could Tear Us Apart
they can both be clingy it's okay
i almost forgot to open my document when I started reading again
[wilbur voice] quackityyyyy
hes not even actually here but I'm lobe himb
hehehe lovey dovey qpps/pos
i adore my qpps and my bf
GOD i am not NORMAL about platonic soulmate clingyduo there is nothing normal abt my mind state towards them!
"You were worth more than L'manburg ever was…" grrrrrr growl hiss its so GOOD
more baby birb🥺
ch19:Come out and Play
is he a demigod now?
bird time again!
i love instinct shit have i mentioned that?/hj
baby baby boy/pos
i was reading this the first time and I was just like. hes so small
i fuckin love my comfort chara using my coping mechanisms
And with that it's back to reading<3
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I posted 13,573 times in 2022
That's 2,399 more posts than 2021!
724 posts created (5%)
12,849 posts reblogged (95%)
Blogs I reblogged the most:
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@/thedialup
@/cupsmp
@/communistwilbur
@/the-king-of-lemons
I tagged 2,955 of my posts in 2022
#my thots - 527 posts
#bee liveblogs - 55 posts
#mmmm for bad days - 54 posts
#axe hi - 47 posts
#mmmm space good - 38 posts
#ficposting - 37 posts
#answered asks - 32 posts
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Longest Tag: 139 characters
#” he grins winningly. this woman will love him because all women love him immediately. “i can do basic patching for old or worn out clothes
My Top Posts in 2022:
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It's a habit (i can't help it) is the last scarian + cannibalism fic i will hopefully ever write!! hopefully.
It features watcher lore (come talk to me about my thoughts on that), vex lore (come talk to me about my thoughts on that), and some good old-fashioned blatant homoeroticism!
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i love gay people
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how to court your "professional rival" was my gift for @droidofmay for the @extrememcytexchange!!
i had a blast working with her prompt and the time of my life writing this fic :D wonderful exchange, would participate again
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this is the energy we should be bringing to lore i think
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My #1 post of 2022
ok but im still fucked up over c!tommy's blank void limbo. like. god cdream really took every fucking thing from him he takes his discs he takes his brother he takes lmanberg he takes tubbo he takes his fucking god. like. christ man. do you think when he came back he went to church prime? did he try to cleanse himself in holy water, did he pray for her to take him back, assuming she had deliberately abandoned him? did he try to fast or do penance did he kneel for hours on the cold marble did he try to remove himself from everything to be more holy or since lady prime is a god of abundance did he go the other route. did he try to steal more try to grind try to get as many thing as possible did he keep them thinking that was what she wanted from him or did he give them to her. did he think exile and his death was a punishment for trying to value Things less when wealth is her domain. is her certain that if only he could have just held on to those discs he could've spent his limbo with her in eternal wealth? what afterlife DOES church prime teach, is it just. wealth in whatever will make you the happiest or do her followers go to her place when they die?
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ccerealbowl · 3 years
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TW // EYE STRAIN, BLOOD
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snoopdoodle · 3 years
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Hello, Snoop :] Can I have a M! reader that is like the "Main Creative Big Builder" of the SMP. Like helped build the "Pandora's Vault" [ + redstone], "Las Nevadas", and ect. But only Wilbur, Dream (+ Sam), and Big Q know about reader because reader usually builds when no one is on other people [Bench trio, Phil, ect.] Mid-Lore stream, when C! Philza, Bench Trio, & Sam go to visit Dream and the redstone for the vault is mess up so they have to get Reader on the SMP to fix it. Anarchy :]
i think its concerning how I listened to "true crime in America" while writing this wholesome write :,)
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[Name] to the rescue!
platonic!benchtrio x male!reader, platonic!philza x male!reader, platonic!awesamdude x male!reader
pronouns: he/him
summary: pandoras vault? broken? not for long, call for [name]!
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You were known as one of the “gods'' on the server. It was due to you rarely being mentioned, but also having so many landmarks, like in the prison, the main builds of L’manburg, and a few helpful builds in Las Nevadas, like the casino. You also did a bit of redstone early on in Eret’s castle as a surprise. It was funny to see his reaction, as he was shocked to find a secret room in one of the main rooms in the castle. Your “godly-ness” was just operator powers and somehow, not being seen by anyone on the SMP so far….. Besides Sam and Dream.
The main people who mentioned you lore wise were dream and Wilbur. Dream had mentioned you after he used his revival book. It was strange for everyone else, but the rest of the viewers and the people on the SMP thought that it was just lore that they hadn’t read. Maybe, it could have been some surprise improv that he had thought of a couple minutes before. But anyway, the one time you had been seen by anyone, was a bit funny, to dream at least. You had tried so hard to stay as this “god” that was just a myth to the SMP, but of course, nothing can stay the same.
Phil, Tommy, Tubbo, and Ranboo were walking to the prison. Tommy was taking shallow breaths, trying to stay in character. Sam had messaged the lot earlier, saying how some of the restone had been broken for some reason, and he had struggled to fix it, but he tried his best. Tubbo’s character turned to Tommy and gave him a little punch, causing Tommy to give a shriek. “What was that for, man?!” he yelled, his voice booming with annoyance and hints of fear to stay in character. Tubbo and Phil gave a laugh as Ranboo stayed silent to be in character. 
“Hey, don’t be sweaty about this man. It… It’s just a small visit to a “homeless man” as Technoblade would say. We got this!” Tubbo spoke, shakily, but cheerful. Ranboo gave a sigh and looked over to Phil. “Hey Phil,” He started, causing Phil to look over to him. “D-Do you think everything will be ok? Like after this..? We know what happened with Tommy before…” He spoke, staying in character as best he could. But really, he was more concerned with the fact that the Prison was down. The question and reasoning cause Tommy, Tubbo, and Phil to stop and stare at him. 
“Wow mam, way to stay positive.” Tommy huffed in annoyance. Phil stifled a laugh and Tubbo gave a “pft” to the comment. They all continued walking, getting closer to the Prison block by block. They stared into the nether portal at the front gate as soon as they got there. The men froze. Phil took charge and walked into the portal, leading Ranboo, Tommy, and Tubbo to do the same. Tubbo and Ranboo ogled at the prison, having never seen it before. Tommy scoffed at their awe, and Phil gave a huff trying to be content with their bullshit.
“Welcome to the prison. I’ll need you to sign these books,” Sam spoke as a greeting, not caring about the rudeness and tiredness in his voice. Tubbo and Ranboo were taken back in surprise at how well he was in character. Philza was the first to walk up to Sam and grab a book. Tommy was next, due to being closer, then Ranboo, the Tubbo. They all grabbed the books and signed their names, walking back to Sam. He walked off, causing the others to follow. Sam pulled a lever on the wall, hoping it would work. His hands were sweaty as he didn’t know how much redstone was broken.
“Wait a second…” He mumbled to the group, walking over to another lever. He flicked it, and this time it worked. “Damnit,” He spoke, realizing he’d have to call someone, that someone being you, on your off day. “Everything ok, Sam?” Ranboo spoke in a hushed voice. In reality, he was trying not to laugh, but he had to stay in character. He was determined not to break. Sam sighed, “Well, now I have to call him,” Phil gave a confused face to his camera, not processing the situation. “Who?” He spoke, asking the question everyone was asking, whether they were viewers or the others in the call.
“You know the.. ‘God’ of the server? Yeah, It’s him,” Sam spoke, and you could hear the dialing of a phone. The ringing of the phone started and then stopped, prompting everyone to be quiet and listen in. “Hello? You need something, I was sleeping,” You spoke, your tired morning voice shocking everyone. “For someone who's asleep, you answered pretty fast,” Sam retorted, and you could hear the giggle of others in the call. You gave a scoff. “Har, Har… anyway, you need something?” You spoke, viewers swooning for you even more.
“Yeah, some of the redstone in the prison broke and I need you to fix it. I tried earlier, but it didn’t work,” Same spoke, sort of revealing that you worked on the prison, you had the ability to be on the server, and that Sam knew how to contact you. The other men in the call just had shocked faces for the fact that they didn’t know about you, and had been given no hints about who you were. Tommy jumped to the DreamSMP discord server and scrolled through the list of people. He was shocked to find a name that he had never seen before with the “admin” and the “builder” roll.
“Wait-wait-wait!” Tommy started after hearing the call end. He assumed you would be opening your computer and hopping on to help with the server. “Was this the guy who helped build L’manburg while everyone was offline? W-Who even is this guy?” He said the last part with a laugh. At this time, you had joined the voice call, and you decided to put in your 2 cents of lore. “Well… I guess you could say that I’m god,” You spoke, your voice still sounding drowsy as one thing came up in the server’s chat.
[Your Username] has joined the game
Others didn’t know who you were and thought you were  a hacker, immediately going to the other’s streams to find out. Some even went to Dream himself to tell him that there was a hacker on the server. Dream ended up sending a server-wide ping out to say that no, you weren’t a hacker, and no, he wouldn’t kick or ban you. You ended up becoming a part of pure lore. The main part was that you were a god, the God of Redstone and creation, and you were known to be summoned by certain people. Your lore became so used that you ended up being in even more lore streams and creating friendships with other people outside of streaming. You're really glad that the redstone broke that day.
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CaptainSparklez is Z (the headcanon/mini theory)
Note: this is just a fun little speculation, which is in no way intended to be taken fully seriously. i’m just having some fun :D
On Ranboo’s 18/7/2021 stream, he built a block-for-block cobblestone replica of an End City building. He claimed that it was “just an idea” he came up with.
Afterwards, the twitter account for Z (the enderwalk researcher) tweeted this:
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This tells us 2 things:
Z is currently watching Ranboo and knows how to talk with the particles
Z knows what an End City is
This means that Z is the first person we know who has a knowledge of the End. Now, how does this relate to Sparklez?
There’s only two things we know about Sparklez in the Dream SMP
That Wilbur has plans for him
That he has horns, much like Tubbo and Puffy
There’s really only been one other place where the Captain has been seen with sort-of animalistic features like we see in Tubbo and Puffy. That is Mianite Season 2.
In Mianite, Sparklez has dragon wings and a tail. You could say he is a dragon hybrid. which if the dad sparklez thing is canon that would make tubbo part dragon instead of goat but that’s besides the point
Not only that, but Sparklez worshiped the goddess of balance and the End, Ianite. So he would clearly have an immense knowledge of the End, seeing as that’s what he’s basically the Champion of.
CaptainSparklez would make the most sense to know about the End. Mianite was a huge pioneer for live lore-based servers, and it would just be sweet to have Mianite’s existence be canon in the smp.
How exactly he is watching Ranboo or knows what an Enderwalker is isn’t exactly clear, that could just be chalked up to Ianite-champion-knows-End-stuff shenanigans, but since we don’t know a lot about Z, we don’t know how they got started on this path of researching Enderwalkers.
As for other small things that kinda just fit with this, CaptainSparklez’s name ends with Z. It could be an easier way to sign off on things.
I haven’t really thought about this one much, but in the Voltz Wars series there are 3 groups. One is the researchers, who are (you guessed it) Ranboo and the Captain. Just something silly I realized while writing this.
Do I in any way believe this is the exact story that Ranboo is intending to reveal with the ARG? Not at all. Is it a silly thought experiment to put the Captain into the DSMP lore? Absolutely.
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nightferns · 3 years
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The Third Variant to the SootCraft Fundy and Wilbur family drama that Maybe Accidentally Started it
So yesterday me and @bigbraveboop came to the conclusion that C!fundy had an arc in early early L'manburg that we were kinda unaware of. And it cracks the case of... how the family drama started. And also is why is this exists
C!Tommy was the catalyst of the c!Fundy | c!Wilbur family drama in S1 and i promise i have proof
all /rp
So what does Fundy repeatedly say is his biggest gripe with Wilbur currently and multiple times after his death? Well:
“You were there for me for a very very long time and then when i needed you the most, you skedaddled fuck the out of my life and died. Because of what? L’manberg’s causes, huh? You thought that was- You thought that was justice? You thought that was good for me? You left me, man.’
“The dad that- my dad that exploded himself for the sake of a country, just for that country to be demolished in future hands?-"
“He put me to priority number 2, man. He put me in the second place.”
So its about L’manburg being more important than him to Wilbur.
Now lets dig deep, where did that insecurity start? Why did Fundy arrive at this conclusion? Why did he feel like this in the first place about his position in L’manburg and his Father?
We kinda assume it was always there or was because of Wilbur actually prioritizing L’manburg over his son/being negectfull. But no! Fundy was very confident in his realtionship with Wilbur and his position in L’manburg at the Start and we see tha change so!
I want to argue that this insecurity... didn't come from Wilbur or any of his actions or lack thereof. Not directly.
“Wilbur? I dunno, Wilbur’s a man of chaos, alright- due to the lore of the server, Wilbur may or may not have been the father of our nation, but- that doesn’t mean he’s for everything I do. That doesn’t mean he stands behind me, alright? Not necessarily...not necessarily.”
This is the first instance of Fundy doubting his connection to Wilbur helping things, i'd argue it still was a part of a lighhearted bit that isn’t to be taken too seriously in the context of the larger story but i realized something that made me change my mind, i mean it is still a lighthearted bit but it connects to a certain quote from uncle Innit:
“What would father think?”
And then that got me thinking and:
Part 1 aka Early L'manburg Fundy had different feelings towards Wilbur than Civil War Fundy
So how did Fundy act towars Wilbur early on?
Fundy: "Don't speak to me ma- hey that's fucked up don't talk about that. That's-"
Tommy: "Listen Th- you gotta kn- you gotta know you don't speak to the boss's son like that. Nevermind about- about the boss's wife to the boss's son in front of the boss's right hand man! You really gotta- You really gotta read the room Thunder."
Fundy: "Yea you don't. You don't."
JM: "fine ok let him do what he wants to do, i just don't wanna hear about it [..]"
Tommy: "Listen to me Fundy- Listen to me Fundy- he didn't mean that- he's just a bold man- he had- he had a little-"
Fundy [turning to JM]: "I will tell on you."
Tommy: " NO no no no Fundy- Fundy He had a little flirt with Dream- he had a little flirt with dream, he's- he's a- he's really new, he's learing his boundaries, he's over stepped them, alright, listen, but you don't have to tell Will, you don't have to tell no-one. "
[To JM] "Thunder you need to to calm your fucking- holy shit."
"-Please, please give him a rest."
JM: "no i- im sorry, im sorry, i'm sorry Fundy"
Fundy: 'I don't want this behavior again, alright."
JM: "no i wont- i wont-"
Fundy: 'Don't talk to my Dad OR my salmon Mother like that ever again, i will tell on you, keep it in mind. I have privilege to speak up against-"
JM: "i understand."
I will come back to the i have a privilege line later but first, from this we see Fundy being confident that Wilbur would take his side because he is his son. He is the “i will tell my parents about this” kid, alongside that he doesn’t feel like he has no imput in decisions, he doesnt feel insecure here he is in the position of power. 
So again when did it appear?
Well,
Fundy: “I may or may not have scammed a bunch of people, including all of L’manburg people, um…”
Tommy: “You scammed L’manburg members?!”
Fundy: “But here’s the thing – I’m willing to pay you a part of the profit if you help me out here!”
Tommy: “Fundy…okay, can I tell you what’s happened from my point of view? The son of the President has gone around scamming the other presidential members, and as the Vice President whilst the President’s not on, this is my duty to make sure that this doesn’t pull apart L’manburg. And what you’re saying – what you’ve essentially just said is, ‘hey, can I bribe you?’“
Fundy: “…Can I?”
Tommy: “Jesus Christ…No, okay, we need to settle this now, ‘cause I mean if this happens on my turf, I’m gonna fucking take the blame from this from Wilbur, alright…so listen, Fundy, under no circumstances can you bribe anyone!”
Fundy: “I got two Netherite scraps?”
Tommy: “Okay, okay – explain to me what’s happened, please.”
[Fundy explains the conflict]
Tommy: “What would father think?”
Fundy: “Well, he always – he always sides…by me…obviously.”
Tommy: “Would he though? I mean, you’ve gone against the other members of the nation he fought to build.”
Fundy: “Well only because my loot has been stolen! Alright?”
Tommy: “This sounds petty, Fundy.”
Fundy: “Okay, okay, I can word this differently in my favor.”
Tommy: “No, okay, no – you’re not meant to say that out loud! Okay, I’m gonna ask Tubbo what’s happened, and then from there on we’ll – but please do not do any – we can’t have L’manburg falling out over this, alright?” 
So here we see Fundy the president’s son being put in comparison to L’manburg the nation the president built for what Wilbur would prioritize for the first time, and Tommy sows the seeds that maybe L’manburg matters more to Wilbur than him, that Wilbur would choose the nation. this is also first time Fundy has been sort of excluded from the Whole of L’manburg.
and we see Tommy’s words affect Fundy,
Fundy: “We gotta list everyone who’s against me:”
“I killed Tubbo twice, I stole his bow. Tubbo’s probably against me.”
“Tommy has always been against me from the start.”
“Sapnap is against me because I killed his animals and stole them.”
“Punz is against me ‘cause I stole his bees.”
“Eret is against me ‘cause I went after Karl.”
“Karl’s against me ‘cause -- I just realized I’ve made a lot of enemies...I just realized I don’t have many -- I don’t have many allies on the server. There’s not many allies.”
“Who’s neutral? Niki! Niki is with me! Niki is friendly.”
“Wilbur? I dunno, Wilbur’s a man of chaos, alright...due to the lore of the server, Wilbur may or may not have been the father of our nation, but...that doesn’t mean he’s for everything I do. That doesn’t mean he stands behind me, alright? Not necessarily...not necessarily.”
“Quackity? Quackity’s definitely not -- no, listen, Quackity’s definitely not for me, okay. I called him a whore. There’s definitely -- there’s definitely many things Quackity has against me.”
so here is my argument... Fundy’s insecurity started with Tommy.
Part 2 Development Of Those Feelings (Uncle Tommy you’re not Helping)
Fundy, growing disillusioned with Wilbur and L’manburg, lead to this one coversation between Fundy and Wilbur,
Wilbur: Well the uh- the ballot entries have closed now.
Fundy: Who's in it?
Wilbur: Well it originally was just gonna be me and Tommy, me and Tommy tired to do it so- tried to do it so we will be the only ones running, then suddenly out of nowhere Quackity joins and enters himself on the ballot-
Fundy: Ok.
Wilbur: -so it's me and Tommy against Quackity and someone else.
Fundy: Who's someone else?
Wilbur: We don't know yet, he hasn't announced,
Fundy: Wait then- oh, so it's just a random… sneaky person who put himself in the ballot not announced who he is.
Wilbur: yeah, yeah. I mean if you wanna try and convince Quackity that you wanna run against your father.
Fundy: Yeah ok.
Wilbur: Wait, you- you wouldn't though. 
Fundy: What if i win? What are- what are you gonna do?
Wilbur: Well then you'd be Vice President.
Fundy: but-What if i win?
Wilbur: Why do you want power in L'manburg so much?
Fundy: Why do you want power?
Wilbur: Because- i led the revolution, i'm your…  i'm your president.
Fundy: That's history.
Wilbur: Wh- d- Do you not think i-  i'm suitable to run for president?
Fundy: I think you are, but i think I am as well.
Wilbur: I don't know man. I don't- i think- i think you- i think you'd be s- i think you'd be getting into a fight you wouldn't want to start with me. You've only been on the positive side of me, you've only seen my nice side, because y'know? being my son you get- you get special- y'know? You won't ever see me going against you.
Fundy: Wait so you're a biased person going for presidency.
Wilbur: Biased to my son? Yes. But, if you're gonna run against me then i'm changing, i'll- i'll go guns blazing.
Fundy: I'll have a word with Quackity.
Wilbur: Fundy i…  i've got- i've got- i've got a bad feeling about this. I think you're just gonna… you're just gonna get hurt.
Fundy: That will happen-
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Wilbur: Fundy yeah- Yeah someone in my chat just pointed out, Fundy you started the civil war.
Niki: I mean technically Sapnap started the civil war.
Fundy: I mean- i mean technically- Yeah y' know, technically- and i'm gonna win it! It's fine! I mean what does he have on me, really?
Wilbur: I thought it was you fighting Tubbo?
Fundy: what?
Wilbur: I thought civil war was you and Tubbo?
Fundy: No, Tubbo's just a prick.
Wilbur: Sapnap's not even- not even part of L’manburg how is it a civil war?
Fundy: I don't know you brought it up!
Wilbur: Tommy told me- Tommy told me it was Tubbo and Fundy.
Fundy: Yeah no Tommy is a little bit delusional.
Wilbur: I think i've spoiled you.
Fundy: How?
Wilbur: I think you need to learn some manners.
Fundy: I dunno- power seems nice.
Wilbur: Fine, you can run against me, it won't end well for you but you can give it a go.
Fundy: Like i said i'll- i'll have a word with Quackity i'll think of my actions, see what will happen, i'm not saying necessarily that i'll go against you, then again i'm not standing beside you because you may or may not be the father of L'manburg 
Wilbur: And you! The father of you!
Fundy: That's irrelevant. To-
Wilbur: No it's not irrelevant! It's very relevant to this!
Fundy: I don't-  i don't think that's relevant to presidency
I’ll talk over Wilburs pov here in a little bit but focusing on Fundy, 
He wants to run, other than everything we established before here Fundy wants to run to prove himself to himself, and we see the other part of this conflict more internally is,  
(“[..] may or may not be the father of L'manburg- “ , “ That's irrelevant.” )
 Well, here is the insecurity about Wilbur choosing L’manburg (here his position as president) over Fundy, the being second place to L’manburg part matters here becasue i think this is where Wilbur and Fundy fundamentally clash, so Fundy doesn’t want for it to matter to Wilbur, he doesn’t want for his position as son to have any influence over Wilbur here beacuse of this fear that that’s why he may be in the second place.
now let’s move on to,
Uncle Tommy ‘helps’
Fundy: “I’m wearing glasses…are you making fun of my eyesight?!”
Tommy: “Yes.”
Sapnap: “Your father would be very disappointed.”
Fundy: “Wh – disappointed for wearing glasses?!”
Tommy: “You got glasses, like what are you wearing…”
Fundy: “What do you mean?”
Tommy: “Sapnap, Sapnap, over here. Fundy, Fundy, Fundy, I’m really sorry to say this – I’m just here to publicly denounce you.”
Fundy: “…What?”
Tommy: “I just, I – yeah. You’re stinky, you’re shitty, the fur that’s sewn onto your skin, I look at it and I go (retching sounds) And whilst you’re a lovely guy, you’re actually not, you’re really…and all the viewers are like ‘oh no!’ But they can’t smell you. I can! Holy shit, you know? I mean you know, Sapnap…”
Fundy: “I showered two hours before the stream…”
Tommy: “I know, and that’s what makes it so remarkable, how you smell that terrible.”
Fundy: “I used coconut oil…it smells good…”
Tommy: “Fundy, I’m just here to kinda let you know that I – if you weren’t Wilbur’s son, you would be out of L’manburg, alright? Just remember – you need to keep that relationship with your father. I saw how asshole-y and bratty you were acting in the courtroom the other night. You need to pull your shit together young man.”
Fundy: “Being neutral is – is asshole?”
Tommy: “Yes. Come with me, Sapnap. Yeah, I’ve denounced you – well no no no, you were challenging him. You were challenging him.”
Fundy: “Denounced to what?”
Tommy: “I just – it’s just a formal way of saying you suck.”
(Tommy and Sapnap leave)
Fundy: “…They are mean…They are mean! Why are they so mean? That is so mean…”
Fundy: “Listen, it is one thing making fun of a person’s appearance…it is one thing making fun of a person’s blindness, but hey – don’t fucking make fun of my coconut oil! Listen dude…that shit smells tasty! That smells good! Man…that’s…god…coconut oil, man…dude.“
Fundy: “TNT their houses? That will just prove their point, chat. That will just prove their point. That will just prove their point…they’re just mean. They’re so mean. But it is okay, chat. It is okay. The reason why it’s okay…that’s actually true. Why is he talking to the enemy? Wait…wait a minute. Wait a minute! So let me get the story straight real quick.”
 “Chat…just hold up a second here! Hold on a second! So Tommy is demoting me, right? And he’s saying you’re only in L’manburg because of Wil. So Tommy says…in theory, he would kick me out if he had the chance. But considering that, while he’s together with Sapnap…it leads me to believe…Tommy wants to destroy L’manburg!”
“Why would he do that? Why would he team up with Sapnap? He had no correlation with this conversation at all. What was the reason for that?”
“…Do we have another traitor in our midst?”
Fundy: “Listen, Tommy, here’s a really interesting theory, alright…here’s an interesting theory, Tommy. I got a little theory on my mind! Listen, boy, we’re part of L’manburg, you and me. Wil as well, Tubbo, all of us, alright? And we’re supposed to be a union! Now here’s the thing! Here’s the thing. If you said, due to Wilbur I’m still basically part of L’manburg – in other terms saying that if it was on your hands you would get me out of there, right, why would you excessively bring Sapnap, out of all people, for that conversation alone?”
Tommy: “Shall I explain to you? It’s because, Fundy, we fucking need votes, Fundy. We need votes! This Quack City guy, son of BadBoyHalo? He’s just – he’s just, like, oh my god. We needed votes. And listen, Fundy–”
Fundy: “You basically just lost my vote, and I feel like that’s your purpose!”
Tommy: “You’re in L’manburg! You vote for us already – you vote for your own father, don’t be an idiot!”
Fundy: “I feel like you’re trying to bring us apart, Tommy. I feel like your goals are not supportive towards L’manburg at the moment…”
Tommy: “From my perspective, Sapnap hates you, Fundy. Sapnap hates you. And if I go listen, if I had to tier list all of the members of L’manburg, Fundy would be in D tier. He needs to hear that.”
Fundy: “…Tommy, are you Eret?”
Post the court debate Fundy was more decided on running on his own,
“Honestly, I feel like everything just needs to change. Honestly, I feel like neither of the parties have done enough right to deserve leadership, to deserve presidency in the first place. I feel like a lot of shit needs to change.”
Fundy didnt want to endorse any of the parties, SWAG2020 was endorsed by Dream, and he belived POG2020 to be corrupt because of the bribing Karl situation, so he was more keen on running on his own, and then came the public denouncing situaion.
Obviously Fundy was hurt by this, especially considering Sapnap was his enemy, and Tommy’s words didnt do Fundy’s and Wilburs already shaky relationship many favours, but his behaviour both pushed Fundy futher away from the POG party, and started Fundy’s ‘traitor Tommy’ theory that he shared with Niki after which the Coconut2020 party was formed.
Part 3 Wilbur is a oblivious dumbass but it makes sense now.
now lets look at Wilburs pov of things, which means we are coming back to the privilege line,
Wilbur: I don't know man. I don't- i think- i think you- i think you'd be s- i think you'd be getting into a fight you wouldn't want to start with me. You've only been on the positive side of me, you've only seen my nice side, because y'know? being my son you get- you get special- y'know? You won't ever see me going against you.
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JM: "no i- im sorry, im sorry, i'm sorry Fundy"
Fundy: 'I don't want this behavior again, alright."
JM: "no i wont- i wont-"
Fundy: 'Don't talk to my Dad OR my salmon Mother like that ever again, i will tell on you, keep it in mind. I have privilege to speak up against-"
JM: "i understand."
So coming back to this quote, i belive Wilbur didnt realize Fundy had these doubts about thier relationship, because he was used to Fundy sharing his problems with him, and he was left kinda drifting in an ‘why is my son suddenly against me now??’
Wilbur didnt realize Fundy’s feelings about him had changed, as in Fundy no longer WOULD come to him if he had any probems, because Fundy used to come to him with problems, ("I will tell on you.") But Tommy’s first comment knocked him down and the debate and the Sapnap-Tommy situation had as well and the denouncement, (which Wilbur also knew shit about) because he was already insecure about his place in L’manburg and Wilbur. AND he wouldn't come to Wilbur like he used to because Wilbur was the point of his insecurity even if he wasnt the couse of it.
So we see Wilbur kinda be sad and confused and misstepping becasue of that,
Wilbur: I don't know man. I don't- i think- i think you- i think you'd be s- i think you'd be getting into a fight you wouldn't want to start with me. You've only been on the positive side of me, you've only seen my nice side, because y'know? being my son you get- you get special- y'know? You won't ever see me going against you.
Fundy: Wait so you're a biased person going for presidency.
Wilbur: Biased to my son? Yes. But, if you're gonna run against me then i'm changing, i'll- i'll go guns blazing.
Fundy: I'll have a word with Quackity.
Wilbur: Fundy i…  i've got- i've got- i've got a bad feeling about this. I think you're just gonna… you're just gonna get hurt.
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Wilbur: Tommy told me- Tommy told me it was Tubbo and Fundy.
Fundy: Yeah no Tommy is a little bit delusional.
Wilbur: I think i've spoiled you.
Fundy: How?
Wilbur: I think you need to learn some manners.
Fundy: I dunno- power seems nice.
Wilbur: Fine, you can run against me, it won't end well for you but you can give it a go.
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Wilbur: Wait, look who’s coming, look who’s coming.
Tommy: Uh oh!
Wilbur: My son. My boy.
Tommy: Your ex-son.
Wilbur: Yeah. Well, I mean, he’s still my son in blood, but, he’s just…
Tommy: You should put him up.
Wilbur: What d’you mean, put him up? What, for adoption?
Tubbo: For adoption.
Tommy: Yeah. You should see if Big Q will adopt him.
[They discuss Fundy’s Twitch Prime cape. He runs up on stage, to the microphone, and starts punching the air. He’s not in the same vc as them.]
Wilbur: What’s he doing, what’s he doing- what is this? What is this bit? What is he doing?
Tommy: What the fuck are you- no.
Wilbur: He’s just not- he’s not- he’s really upsetting me.
Tommy: Just- just- he’s not President is he? He’s got no manners, he has no manners. No etiquette.
Wilbur: Look, he’s supposed to be my son.
[Wilbur types in chat: “fundy talk to me” and Fundy immediately leaves the game.]
Tubbo: He is trying.
Tommy: Tubbo, you’re gonna get murdered, my friend.
Wilbutr: He said, he said, “I am here for the Presidencialcy-” He just left.
Tommy: And then he- [sighs] I’m so sorry you have to deal with him.
W: I don’t- I- It’s really sad, like I… Honestly, I- when he turned around to me and he said he wasn’t gonna vote for me, and then he decided he was gonna vote for the opposition, and then he decided he was gonna run against me, that was- one of those was the straw that broke my back. I’m not sure which one- I’m still contemplating which one was the- are you listening?
[Tommy has jumped off the podium to join Tubbo in the audience.]
Tpmmy: Yeah, I’m going down to Tubbo, I just- I’m just letting you vent, Wilbur, I want you to have time to vent.
Wilbur: Yeah I just- I miss me son! I miss me son! I miss when he was my boy! Do you remember when he was my boy?
Tommy: Yeah, I’m not really good at handling… People who are emotional.
Wilbur also didn’t know anything about the denouncement situation,
Sapnap: “Will you continue to have your son banished from L’Manberg if I vote for you?” 
Wilbur: “My son. My- My son. Look, we’re talking about politics here, I don’t want to talk about my family, if that’s alright. … I would like to say, thank you, Sapnap, for the question, I very much appreciate it, but I’m not gonna be fielding responses about my family situation, thank you.” (Alivebur)
*Wilbur proceeds to step off the podium and cry*
Wilbur: “Fundy...!” 
Besides that  fundamenatally Fundys and Wilburs views about the presidency oppose eachother,
“Tommy, I’m- I’m- I’m- I don’t know what to do, Tommy, I’ve never not been President.”
Fundy sees Wilbur and L'manburg as two separate things that he has to unfiairly contest with and for 
1. for Wilbur because of his fears, for a place among L’manburg members
2. Because He wants to prove himself to himself. he needs to know what Tommy said, isn’t true/he can thrive regardless without his fathers support he can still be a  great member of L’manburg and even a president
Wilbur sees himself as inherently connected trough L’manburg with everyone to the point that he thinks that without his position he cant do anything for his loved ones/ he wont be usefull. he thinks of l’manburg as something he does FOR all of them including Fundy.
“My son… My son is tearing down the walls, in front of me! My son is tearing down the walls in front of me! The walls I built to keep him safe! I promised him this world, Tommy, I promised him this world.”
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 “Fundy was the closest thing I had to something I cared about in L’Manberg, when it all began. You know, when it started, the closest thing to anything I cared about was Fundy. Fundy was my, he was my, he was my boy! My rock!”
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Ranboo: "I don't know if they actually needed me, but I was there.(about his work in the NLM cabinet)" 
Wilbur:"I know that feel." 
This why Fundy and Wilbur clash fundamentally here,
Fundy: Like i said i'll- i'll have a word with Quackity i'll think of my actions, see what will happen, i'm not saying necessarily that i'll go against you, then again i'm not standing beside you because you may or may not be the father of L'manburg 
Wilbur: And you! The father of you!
Fundy: That's irrelevant. To-
Wilbur: No it's not irrelevant! It's very relevant to this!
Fundy: I don't-  i don't think that's relevant to presidency
Part 4 Tommy WHY? (he is propably protective and and a tiny bit jealous )
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Tommy: “Hey, you know about Fundy’s little rebellious stage he’s going through?”
Tommy: “Fundy, I’m just here to kinda let you know that I – if you weren’t Wilbur’s son, you would be out of L’manburg, alright? Just remember – you need to keep that relationship with your father. I saw how asshole-y and bratty you were acting in the courtroom the other night. You need to pull your shit together young man.”
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Tommy: “Shall I explain to you? It’s because, Fundy, we fucking need votes, Fundy. We need votes! This Quack City guy, son of BadBoyHalo? He’s just – he’s just, like, oh my god. We needed votes. And listen, Fundy–”
Fundy: “You basically just lost my vote, and I feel like that’s your purpose!”
Tommy: “You’re in L’manburg! You vote for us already – you vote for your own father, don’t be an idiot!”
Fundy: “I feel like you’re trying to bring us apart, Tommy. I feel like your goals are not supportive towards L’manburg at the moment…”
Tommy: “From my perspective, Sapnap hates you, Fundy. Sapnap hates you. And if I go listen, if I had to tier list all of the members of L’manburg, Fundy would be in D tier. He needs to hear that.”
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Wilbur: Wait, look who’s coming, look who’s coming.
Tommy: Uh oh!
Wilbur: My son. My boy.
Tommy: Your ex-son.
Wilbur: Yeah. Well, I mean, he’s still my son in blood, but, he’s just…
Tommy: You should put him up.
Wilbur: What d’you mean, put him up? What, for adoption?
Tubbo: For adoption
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Wilbur: He said, he said, “I am here for the Presidencialcy-” He just left.
Tommy: And then he- [sighs] I’m so sorry you have to deal with him.
W: I don’t- I- It’s really sad, like I… Honestly, I- when he turned around to me and he said he wasn’t gonna vote for me, and then he decided he was gonna vote for the opposition, and then he decided he was gonna run against me, that was- one of those was the straw that broke my back. I’m not sure which one- I’m still contemplating which one was the- are you listening?
[Tommy has jumped off the podium to join Tubbo in the audience.]
Tommy: Yeah, I’m going down to Tubbo, I just- I’m just letting you vent, Wilbur, I want you to have time to vent.
Wilbur: Yeah I just- I miss me son! I miss me son! I miss when he was my boy! Do you remember when he was my boy?
Tommy: Yeah, I’m not really good at handling… People who are emotional.
Besides Tommy genuinely wanting to get more votes during the dennoucemnt situation, his seconddary motive was well, he was protective over Wilbur, he noticed that what Fundy did during the debate hurt Wilbur, and kept acting bitter towards him from then on. ( “ I saw how asshole-y and bratty you were acting in the courtroom the other night.” / And then he- [sighs] I’m so sorry you have to deal with him.”  )
the he a was tiny bit jealous point IS more up in the air but we can compare this to how Tommy acted towards Ranboo just after leaving prison, when he learned of the c!beeduo marriage.
Quotes from @/kateis-cakeis, @/findingjoynweirdstuff, @/ace-enderchest and my own transcripts, thank you guys!
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MCYT Demographic Survey Part 2 RESULTS
IT’S TIME!!!
Once again, thank you so much to everyone who participated! 1,654 people total responded to this - about four and a half times as many respondents as the first survey. It’s honestly incredible. I’m so happy the rest of you are as interested as I am in this stuff :D
The increased turnout is also why these results are being posted two days later than I’d intended. I want to give a HUGE thank you to my friend @quincepastey​ and my sibling @orestes-swimming​ for helping me out, and by helping I do mean they did basically all of the technical stuff for me, because my knowledge of spreadsheets was not up to the task. So thank you to Cupid for organizing all the data from questions 3 and 4 into something comprehensible for me, and thank you to Kal for making the charts! They are absolutely the MVPs and everyone reading this should go check them out. Thank you guys so much <3
Reblogs of this post are very appreciated. It would be awesome if the info about the results could reach everyone who submitted a response, so if you reblogged my first post about this survey, please consider reblogging this one as well!
For your convenience, here’s a link to the results of the first survey I did six months ago. Now - on to the results!
Question 1: What is your age range?
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Compared to the results of the first survey, we can see that things have changed a bit! Specifically, the fandom has shifted just a little bit older. The solid majority of the fandom is still in the 15-17 year old range, but it’s gone down from almost half to closer to 40%. Almost a third of the fandom are ages 18-20, up from close to a fifth six months ago. 21-25 year olds have increased from about 10% to about 14%. And the youngest segment, 13-14 year olds, have gone from almost 20% of the fandom down to 12% - the sharpest change of all.
Finally, nearest and dearest to my own heart, there are now 26 whole people in the fandom aged 26-30 and 9 people aged 30+. Old Squad is growing, folks. We are... the 2% 😎 Special shoutout to the person who said their 15 year old kid got them into the fandom. I hope you know just how cool you are.
These results are interesting, but it’s also impossible to say how accurate the data is. This survey and the previous one were only posted on my blog, and they only reached a wider audience through the reblogs of my followers. So do these changes reflect actual changes in the demographics of the fandom as a whole, or is it just that my followers (and the people who follow them) have shifted older? To try to avoid this bias in the future, I may reach out to some well-known younger bloggers and ask them to reblog the next survey I do so that I can reach a more even audience.
Question 2: What is your gender?
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Apologies for the small text, but there were so many unique write-in answers that I wanted to include them all. You may want to open the image in a separate tab for better quality.
In contrast to the age question, the gender spread of the fandom has remained pretty much the same. About half the fandom is still female, the nonbinary crowd has increased from 20% to 25%, 7% of us are male, almost 7% are genderfluid, and about 5% are agender. Just like last time, most of the write-in responses fell into the vague categories of either genderqueer or questioning.
No surprises on this one! The fandom continues to be overwhelmingly female and queer. Next time I think I’ll include genderqueer and questioning as options to try to catch some of those people into a formal category. All y’all are so valid, especially the person who wrote in their gender as “soup” <3
The results for questions 3 and 4 will be under a cut, because I don’t want to completely destroy people’s dashes.
Before I get into the last two questions, a couple notes. First, I want to explain how I came up with the list of creators, since a lot of people were either excited or disappointed by the fact that a few different people were on there.
On the last survey, this question was a write-in, and I had to transcribe and collate all the answers by hand to come up with the actual number of people who followed each creator. For this survey, I simply took the list that came out of the previous one and pasted it in! I also added a few people who no one wrote in six months ago but who are much more prominent now (Ranboo being the biggest example). So if you were excited to see your favorite small creator listed as an option, they were there because someone wrote them in last time! And if you wrote in your favorite small creator here, they’ll be an option on the next survey. The list is entirely crowdsourced and it will expand with each survey.
That said, the same also applies for more controversial creators. Specifically, I’m talking about CallMeCarson. Several people questioned my decision to keep him on the list - and to be honest, I considered taking him out. But in the end I decided to leave him in as an option for the sake of completeness and consistency with the previous survey. I want to emphasize that this is not me condoning his actions. But for the sake of the data, I felt that it was best to leave him in.
That said, let’s move on to questions 3 and 4!
Question 3: What creator(s) do you primarily follow?
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So, it’s harder to compare with the previous survey on this one, and that’s purely because on the previous survey I didn’t have the help I did here. The chart I was able to make for the results back in October was frankly trash. Also, the fact that I split “followed creators” into two questions - primarily and casually followed - definitely throws things off. However, we can still do a certain amount of comparison!
The most obvious change is Ranboo. He straight up was not on the previous survey at all - I think he’d been streaming for less than a month at the time. Now, about 55% of respondents listed him as someone they primarily follow. The Dream SMP itself has also jumped dramatically. Previously, about 5% of people wrote in Dream SMP. That has increased to over half. Quackity has gone from less than 2% to about 30%. Karl has gone from 4% to 30%. Phil has gone from about 8% to a little under 50%. The SBI have jumped from 11% to over 40%.
Techno has gone from about 50% to over 60%. Tommy has gone from 45% to over 55%. Wilbur has jumped from 43% to 55%. Tubbo has remained steady at about 38%.
Dream has apparently dropped some of his following percentage-wise, falling from 50% to about 35%. However, George, Sapnap, and the Dream Team itself have all jumped from 10-12% to almost 30%.
I’m not going to go over the rest of the list, because that would just get way too long. However, I will drop a link to the spreadsheets of data for this survey and the previous one, so anyone who wants to can do some comparison of their own!
Question 4: What creators do you casually follow?
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I won’t do as detailed of a comparison on this question, because there’s nothing to compare it to - this question wasn’t on the previous survey. However, it’s interesting to see how many more people follow Fundy, Nihachu, BadBoyHalo, Captain Puffy, Eret, Awesamdude, and Jack Manifold casually rather than as a primary favorite. Out of the top twelve, Karl, Quackity, Phil, and Tubbo are the only ones who don’t have a major discrepancy between the amount of people who follow them casually versus primarily.
I would be curious to hear people’s thoughts on why that’s the case! Personally, I would guess it’s a combination of each of their approaches to lore on the Dream SMP, the frequency and times of day that they stream, and the people they tend to make content with and be associated with by the fandom. I may go into that more later, but this post is already very long, so I’ll hold off for now. Here’s a link to this question’s spreadsheet for anyone who wants to take a closer look!
...And that’s a wrap! Good grief, this got long. Kudos to anyone who actually read the whole thing because I know my attention span would be challenged. I’m already thinking about the next survey - a couple people suggested that I add in questions about orientation and nationality, and while I want to keep the survey pretty tight in its scope, I am considering it. It would be even more data to process but it would be interesting to know!
I would love to hear people’s thoughts on these results! I’m only one person, so I know there’s interesting stuff I must have missed. Please, please feel free to reblog with your thoughts and observations! A lot of work went into this (both from me and from Cupid and Kal! Thank you guys again!), so I’m really hoping to hear what people think about it :D
I plan to reblog this and reply to some of the things people wrote in at the end, so stay tuned for that. And once again: thank you all for your interest in this project of mine <3 See you with another one in six months!
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