I was thinking and I've come to the realization that people do not truly understand the damage that incest and rape does to you. They think they do, they think it's about forbidden romance and desire so strong that you can't help yourself but it's not. It's about control and power, about someone in a position over you deciding that your bodily autonomy and mental well-being come second to them. And it scares me that you can't say, "please do not sexualize abuse" without facing backlash on a website with this many survivors.
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Weird Gravity Falls question:
As fans, we’re all aware that Filbrick sucked as a dad.
But do Stan and Ford understand that?
It seems obvious to us outside viewers, but I don’t exactly recall any comments by either senior Pines twin that would suggest they have connected those dots. I believe it’s fairly normal for children of abusive, neglectful or just simply bad parents to think their parent’s behavior was normal or that they deserved it or whatever, and in addiction to not being able to remember a moment where they admit their dad sucked, they certainly have both internalized his words.
Ford continued to pursue his education and was obsessed with academic excellence, as that seemed to be the one and only thing that made his father show him any kind of appreciation.
Stan continued to obsess over money, as his dad told him that was the only way he was allowed to return home. And let’s not forget his comment in the finale “dad was right, I am a screw up”
But again, and please please correct me if I’m wrong, I can’t think of anything either of them has said that criticizes their father’s actions. There’s the comment that he “wasn’t easily impressed” which I think more than anything, serves more as an excuse for his actions. Heck, in the flashback of Stan taking boxing lessons, I felt that whole scene was framed as Filbrick being a good dad, personally, I thought he was a good dad up until A Tale of Two Stans.
Idk I guess I just always assumed that after several decades they started to understand that Filbrick wasn’t a great dad, but it’s perfectly realistic for neither of them to have come to that conclusion, and frankly, the tiny bits of evidence from the show support this being the case.
I rambled a bit here, but what do you all think? Did I forget a moment that proves they do see their dad wasn’t a good dad? Do you think they have processed that part of their childhoods?
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I have feelings about the way Wade lowkey panics when men touch him gently.
In the teamup comics he gets all awkward when Spidey hugs him and then makes a lewd joke that "ruins it" as Spidey says. In the second movie he goes "haha what are you doing?" In this very airy, confused tone when Cable pats him on the chest to place the skee-ball token over his heart.
He doesn't even joke about copping a feel or anything, he just doesn't know how to react to touch from men that isn't threatening and it makes me sad.
Spidey's hug is an obviously conciliatory gesture, he's apologizing and thanking Wade. Cable's gesture seems to be brazing and supportive, when you don't know what he's doing, but both gestures are so inconceivable to Wade, because they're nice to him, that he's just left baffled.
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while i'm on my fiona-as-monica-stand-in bullshit:
monica being like "i get it. i know what it's like. i was once where you are right now." IS INSANE TO ME???? MA'AM THAT'S YOUR DAUGHTER???? HELLO??? and then -
fiona's sad little smile as monica says "you have no idea how bad it is" BECAUSE SHE DOES KNOW. SHE KNOWS IT ALL TOO WELL. BUT THEN????
the fact that it's LIP who says "try me" ???? I'M GOING INSANE. FIONA AND LIP AS MONICA AND FRANK PARALLELS/STAND-INS IS KILLING ME. AND IT DOESN'T END THERE????
fiona going "i know how he treated you" because he treats her the same way im !!!!!!!! and THEN!!!!
the fact that she ACKNOWLEDGES that she was forced into this role by his negligence/abuse AND HER ABANDONMENT, the fact that she outright says "i'm not his wife. YOU ARE," the fact that she TELLS MONICA "YOUR LEAVING MADE ME HAVE TO STEP INTO YOUR SHOES. YOU LEFT YOUR CHILDREN AND MADE ME THEIR MOTHER. YOU LEFT YOUR HUSBAND AND MADE ME HIS WIFE."
i'm on the ground.
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Billy and Steve start hanging out and Billy starts noticing that Steve doesn't know how to do a lot of basic stuff, and the stuff he does know how to do he does weird.
At first Billy dismisses these observations as being a product of Steve having grown up rich, like.. of course Steve doesn't know how to change the oil on his car, he can afford to take the thing in regularly and pay someone else to do it. But the more they spend time together the more Billy realizes that thats not quite right.
The Harrington's have a shiny fancy working dishwasher (Billy knows it works, he's seen Henderson use it). But Steve always washes dishes by hand.
And it's definitely not that Steve is just some weirdo who likes hand washing dishes, he clearly hates doing it, but he still never uses the dishwasher.
And going grocery shopping with Steve is an actual nightmare, Billy thought he hated shopping with Max (who somehow always convinces him to buy her shit she doesn't need), but Steve... Steve makes shopping with Max seem well worth the wasted money.
The way he meanders about the store, flitting back and forth between the aisles and constantly doubling back to get something else that was right next to something he grabbed twenty minutes ago is absolutely incomprehensible to Billy. A shopping trip that would take Billy twenty minutes, even with Max tagging along, takes Steve at least an hour.
Billy also pretty quickly learns that if anyone ever points out any of these oddities, Steve will react in one of two ways.
Either he'll try and brush it off and downplay the whole situation or he'll get extremely prickly and defensive about it.
Billy does not understand, but the puzzle of it all fascinates him.
It's not until one time when Steve's parents come back early from a business trip that it finally clicks.
Billy had been staying the night, eager for more time with Steve and time away from Neil. He was supposed to be long gone by the time Mr and Mrs Harrington got back, but apparently their plans had changed last minute.
Billy woke to an empty bed, and Steve's empty bedroom, and had made his way downstairs just in time to accidentally catch the tail end of Steve's father berating him for apparently doing the laundry incorrectly.
It was clear Steve's dad had already been talking for a while, and the part that Billy caught was too long by itself.
And in all that time and with all those words Mr Harrington had for his son it was clear that not one of them were any sort of instructions on how to correct the mistake, no hint of how to do it right next time.
When Steve finally emerged from his father's study, looking so resigned (at least until he noticed Billy then he looked embarrassed), it was clear to Billy that this was Mr Harringtons usual way of handling such matters.
And that was when Billy finally understood that the reason Steve didn't know how to do basic things, or did them in weird incomprehensible ways, was because no one had ever taught him. They'd just expected him to start doing these things and then gotten mad when he didn't manage to do them to unspecified standards.
Months later, when Billy and Steve have moved into their own shitty tiny little apartment downtown, Billy starts showing Steve how to do shit. It's hard, trying to toe the line between gentle instruction and patronizing, especially since they both have so little experience with gentle but eventually, despite the times it blows up in their faces and one of them stomps off somewhere to cool off, they get better at it.
And as it turns out, Steve can actually be pretty good at all sorts of stuff as long as someone bothers to teach him.
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bumble wc is just a piece of writing from this series that TRULY astounds me. like the characters do not acknoledge that shes a living person whatsoever once she becomes a "nuisance" (she is fat and a house pet). and on top of that, to have turtle tail turn her back on her as well??>?? because gray wing has it bad for her and so we have to exterminate the "obstacle" in the way of their straight romance???
like i expect gray wing and clear sky to be dicks but..why would TURTLE TAIL rationally allow her friend (who lived through the same abuse as she) be shunned away from the moor group??
its some of the most mean spirited shit in this entire series and it only exists as a plotline...for what reason??? cause "kittypets are bad you dont want to be a kittypet"?? its not like you remind us every fucking arc erin hunter. because we're supposed to like gray wing and they really wanted him to serve as an adoptive parent to turtle's litter?? like..what???
i dont even have a real point to this post i just want to express my confusion cause what even was the goal. it does nothing but make the entire cast abuse-enabling discriminatory assholes who are willing to send outsiders to easily preventable deaths. and we're supposed to agree with these jackasses??? ERIN HUNTER WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY TO YOUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AUDIENCE???
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