#one piece sexism

[gildedmuse]

So, I just know all of Tumblr was wondering, "hey, you remember that really weird ZoLaw fan with the annoyingly overly stylized post? I wonder if she's seen this and if she has any theories or thoughts, an observation or two?"

Well, allow me to set your wandering mind at ease, fictional Tumblr fan. The answer is: No. No, I really don't.

I have like three hundred.

[I also spent time just trying to track down as many translations as possible. Is Tera A Criminal's Daughter or The Daughter Of Thieving Bandits! These are CLEARLY separate things and can ENTIRELY change how her utter nonpresence in Zoro's life shaped him! Though I can take comfort in knowing that, regardless of what kind of crimes her father was committing they were more important than anything his daughter ever did in her entire life.]

And, hey, as might as well jump right into that whole mess.

1. Wait, Zoro's mom is dead? Thank goodness, I was worried Oda forgot one!

(AKA: Stop. Murdering. Moms.)

I'll go first, I don't mind saying when I was wrong. True, in the past I may have suggested that the vast majority of female characters in One Piece come off as ever so slightly, "leaning into sexist tropes with unadulterated joy; it's the misogynistic tropes equivalent of a child running naked through a grocery store. It's right there, everyone sees it, yet people shut up and continue shopping in part because, well, these days you just expect most people to cover that junk! What would you even say? And if you DO speak up and call out the inappropriate, be prepared for blank stares and tantrums; but THEY don't mind! THEY don't think it's wrong! You're just being mean!"

More or less a direct quote.

However, I see now that I rushed to judgement and the reality of the situation is far more nuanced. With that in mind, I was just wondering if someone could help answer some of the questions I have.

Like: Why does Oda believe that it's illegal for (maternal) female characters to survive other character's backstories?

More importantly, why hasn't someone just reached out to explain the misconception!? It can't be that difficult. If nothing else, just have a lawyer or judge or other expert in censorship on hand. Or is the one of those cases where back in highschool his friends made something up and then kept pretending it was real to see if he'd believe you and not only did he fall for it, it took over 20 years before he learned that, what, no that's not illegal. That would be crazy if it were an actual law. Cause you know, after the first 10 years I think yeah you have to just lean into it. Pretend it's a creative decision on your part and definitely not because you were terrified of being sentenced to a slow and humiliating public death.

Just to be clear that's definitely what's up, right? I mean, I'm struggling to think of another reason....able excuse why a story that I really enjoy keeps playing the same old sexist tropes cards again and again to the point of absurdity. It would just help if I had a valid excus- explanation. I almost mistyped the word explanation.

....

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So I imagine it went like.

"That's the third mangaka they've had to Publically Execute this week!"

"They've started taking this law way more serious lately."

"This one really deserved it though! I heard his main character has a mother in her late forties!"

"That does seem old to have your first child."

"No, he's the middle of three and 22 years old. The story even has flashbacks of defining moments in his childhood and never once did she try to sacrifice herself for him, get murdered by his enemies, or die in meaningless unrelated accidents."

"Damn, that's cold to be there for all the protagonist core moments and not die and help him develop and grow a character? They must have a very antagonistic relationship. Is she actually the villain."

"Not that we know, and when they asked about this being a possible plot twist since - obviously if she's evil no laws are being broken."

"Well, of course, that's the whole reason Statue 2-dash-57 exists; if creators can show they have consistently been building up to a surprise twist then the female character in question can continue to live so long as she continues to be unrepentant and unlikable until the resolution of her arch by the protagonist."

"That's the thing! Under oath not only did man present no evidence to support her identity as a secret villain, he went on the record stating he wanted to depict their relationship as one of a normal modern 20 year old and his mother."

"That can't be true! What publishing company would even print that!?"

"It gets worse. I told you he was a middle child? Well, according to those who've read the actual manga, his younger sister was really sick as a child."

"Oh, well, at least-"

"It was just a fish allergy. She's perfectly fine."

"Sometimes I feel this law is unnecessarily harsh but.... Then you hear stories like that, and you realize that some people really are monsters."

#So this was going to be one post three parts (because obviously) then I remembered even people who have purposefully followed me hate that #I took into consideration that not everyone wants a unmountable wall of Zoro meta analysis on their dash so now its gonna be 3 post style #keeping in mind I've already written it all up and will just be posting them one after the other so effectively the same result #only with the illusion of my empathetic nature #I do have a lot of thoughts on what amounts to a very small amount of scribbled lines and a couple doodles #he literally didn't even bother giving Kuina's mom or grandmothers a name like they didn't even have a identity #In fairness there wasn't a need for them to have any kind of identities or individuality or identifiable features #everyone knows only one trait really matters when it comes to adult females: they go down #into the ground....as a corpse. After ensuring that their death would be the best way to help their children grow. As characters. #I'm joking cuz its funny. It's obvious why Zoro's mom got a name & description: she gave birth to a protagonist and not a human sacrifice #But have considered why those specific qualities are what he chose to define her by - she's fictional he could have made up anything! #I'll have to talk about it in the other posts I'm wasting precious tag room #one piece #roronoa zoro #one piece meta #one piece sexism #this post is not for everyone; actually its pretty much just for me #conversations with fictional people #more opinions than anyone asked for about subjects they don't even care about #Oh! I found the blogs new subtitle! #author gets sassy then preachy then sassy again and then swerves sharply to the weird #oh these tags are way too much #Zoro's backstory #Zoro family history #amusing musings #why am i the way that i am #three post style: part one!

[opbackgrounds]

Right now Lola's an undead zombie pig so it's a bit of a moot point, but the lack of respect Oda shows for his female characters who aren't attractive is really annoying. It's a joke that consistently seems to go one step too far. The worst I think is the Kokoro mermaid reveal, and to his credit I do believe Oda gets better at it as the series progresses. Later on during WCI neither Chiffon, Lola, nor indeed Big Mom's attractiveness (or lack thereof) is commented on, and Chiffon's relationship with Bege is one of the strongest in the entire series.

#opbackgrounds #one piece #ch453 #sexism

[biggest-gaudiest-patronuses]

This election day, I'm thinking of my Nana.

I'm thinking of how as a young woman, she fled political violence in her native Colombia to build a new home in a more stable country. I'm thinking about how she lived a long life, but not long enough to see her home country elect its first ever progressive president (just a few months ago!).

Coincidentally, I was living in Colombia at that time (in the very city she grew up in), and I was able to witness what felt like a miracle. A very conservative country, suffering from the violent inheritance of colonization and catholic invasion and the war on drugs, against a backdrop of the dangerous global rise of the far right--this unlikely country managed to elect one of the most progressive heads of state in the world, in 2022. That's a pretty big deal.

And I'm thinking about this, this election day, because that election was won by a very thin margin. I'm thinking about how it almost didn't happen. I'm thinking about how it was only possible thanks to the highest voter turnout in 20 year. And I am thinking about the countless number of voters who chose to vote for the first time. I am thinking of the poorest and most disenfranchised citizens who showed up at the polls. I am thinking of the indigenous women who rode 12 hours on public buses to vote at the 'nearest' polling stations. I am thinking of all the money and corruption that went into preventing minority citizens from voting, and I'm thinking about how they showed up in the millions and voted anyway.

I am thinking that I would like to see a miracle like that in my own home country.

So if you're on the fence about waiting in line today to cast your vote, I hope that you will think--about the country you want to live in, the future you hope will unfold, and about all of the people it takes to make a miracle.

Because history may deem us nameless and faceless, but when we show up en masse, we are the ones who make history happen.

And yes, maybe also spare a thought for my Nana. Who was in fact a very angry and judgemental woman who supported the republican party for 50+ years, and who would be turning in her grave right now (if the family hadn't had her cremated). Think about the mean angry ghost of my Colombian grandmother, who very much wants you to not show up at the polls to support abortion and other sinful progressive values. Think about her. Do it for her. Do it for Nana.

#Do it! for her #not a shitpost #serious post #politics #ask to tag #I love you Nana but i disagree SO vehemently with almost all of your personal political and religious values #also you should have treated my mom SO MUCH BETTER when she was a kid. all of your kids really #i see you very much as a victim of religious trauma & childhood poverty #followed by the cultural isolation of being a first generation immigrant with no local hispanic community to provide support #plus the failure of late 20th century mental health care almost certainly compounded by medical sexism #recognize sympathize and am indignant on your behalf for all of those reasons and more #but that truth can also coexist alongside the truth that #hot DAMN Nana you and Papa very much failed to provide your children with an emotionally safe and stable environment in which to grow #and me and my sibs are still dealing with the generational trauma #and who knows how many of my cousins. I HAVE TWENTY-ONE COUSINS AND I DON'T TALK TO ANY OF THEM #that is too many cousins to not be in contact with any of them #(and fyi that's on *one* side of the family. on the other side are a dozen half-aunts-and-cousins I've never met #because Other Grandpa was a Certified Piece of Shit) #Anyway. ANYWAY... #apparently i really needed to overshare today. know what? no judgement. judgement free zone #i have no judgement thoughts or opinions i am finally FREE #........gosh that sounds so relaxing #ANYway #yeah. break the cycle of abuse or your descendants will grow up and critique your parenting choices on third-tier social media platforms #when people say 'they will always be remembered' at a funeral--that is a THREAT #what they actually mean is 'OH HONEYBUN YOU DONE FUCKED UP' #.........i want that in my eulogy actually

[kookoofufu]

Not to be a manga-only pretentious dweeb but every time I see one piece fans talk about terrible pacing or being annoyed by a beloved character I start vibrating in my chair frothing at the mouth shaking uncontrollably bleeding from my eyes bleating like a goat read the manga please just read the manga the issues you have with one piece are with toei animation please pick up a book PLEASEJUSTREADTHEFUCKINGMANGA

#one piece #one piece manga #i was shocked when i learned that people dont like vivi or usopp but then i remembered anime voice acting exists #the anime is fucking incredible with some moments. others not so much #sexism isnt fixed tho. it is perhaps worse

[andaniellight]

This comment from the tiktok video above pretty much sums the... [gestures broadly] ...all up imo:

#Oda Eiichiro is a consistent guy. mostly w/ the misogynistic and sexism parts tbh because Those-Are-Part-Of-The-System-wink. Consistency. #and when it comes to writing we all just need to create consistent pattern(s) to be recognized by the audience #Shaping Mechanics in writing... idk if that's the real term but anyways #One Piece #tiktok video #<- tagging that in case someone's anti-tiktok around here /neutral #Straw Hat Pirates #Mugiwara no Ichimi

[charkyzombicorn]

Luffy in gods au is kinda like a tooth fairy in that he doesn't actually have a gender most people just assume he does, this cannot be said for Usopp because Luffy is very adamant Usopp is his husband not his wife (Usopp likes being called a husband more so people just assume he's a man)

#one piece #myths & gods au #Usopp technically invented the different sexes in his plants he has no idea what sexism is and he doesn't wanna know honestly #lusopp

[roronoaiz]

See, I love Sanji. I’m a Sanji hype woman.

Except … for that one, aggravating character trait of his that I would summarize as his perversion and hypocrisy towards women.

Well, for International Women’s Day I wrote a little fanfic about Nami and Robin confronting him about it.

Happy women’s day! ♥️

#Sanji #vinsmoke sanji #one piece nami #nami #nico robin #one piece robin #sexism #one piece

[spock-smokes-weed]

Okay so now that I'm a good way through the series (just got to thiller bark) and I want to sort out my feelings on Nami.

So I really do like Nami, but the way she's sexualized is really starting to get on my nerves and is preventing me from really loving her.

I love how pragmatic she is, how she's often the one solving things out, and how important she is to the crew as the navigator. But there are so many scenes of Nami's body being objectified that make her stop feeling like a character sometimes. And that really sucks.

I just read the scene in thriller bark where she's fucking assaulted in the bath, and that scene is quickly used as a peeping joke. Which was actually upsetting to read. And that scene really kind of got to what had been bothering me about Nami up to that point: sometimes, she's treated very differently by Oda, and by extension the men of the crew, because she's an attractive woman.

And listen I did two tours in the naruto fandom, I am not about to start blaming Nami for this. But it does really get in the way of me really loving her cus it feels like sometimes she stops being a character so the men and the audience can oogle at her.

Does anyone else feel this way? Does it get better? I feel really torn because I do want to love Nami, but her over-sexualization makes me really uncomfortable.

#lu reads one piece #nami one piece #I also wanna say these jokes also make me think poorly of the male characters as well #usopp peeping on nami and making it about catching a glimpse of her in the bath while she's being assaulted doesn't make me feel great #about usopp as a person #and if I started talking about sanji we'd be here all day #maybe I just need to take the approach that the sexism drags everyone down and love nami when she gets to be badass

[1pcii]

thinking about deathsythe!zoro again...

kuina (weapon)'s frustration stemming from the idea that weapons need miesters to become deathsythe's (let's pretend Justin law doesn't exist) and that weapons have to live in submission to miesters by koshiro (miester, maybe his wife/her mom was a weapon...). so Zoro and Kuina's promise is to become the first independent deathsythe to prove that it is possible. and Zoro's 'my ambition means nothing is I can't protect my captain' moment is accepting Luffy as his miester and preforming their first soul resonance.

#psii.txt #soul eater x one piece #crossover save mee.... #I really hope I'm remembering all this properly it's been wayy to long since I've been into se #I remember an old meta blog that I'd send asks to that talked abt weapon/miester inequality I wish I could find that again #because I feel like it works alot better than the sexism angle for se since iirc sexism isn't as prevelant in-universe and the focus on #autonomy and fighting the weapon/miester dichotomy has translates into the whole swordsman thing very well #text #au #crossover #zolu soul resonance.... 😭<333

[salteytakesonmanga]

Something that annoys me about Tashigi is how she makes herself and her problems the absolute center of the universe. Even if we didn’t know about Kuina, this would be kind of out of left field. Tashigi has already decided the reason people don’t treat her the way she wants to be treated is because of her gender and starts throwing accusations at Zoro based entirely on her assumptions about him. I'm sure Tashigi has faced sexism in the Navy and probably before, and it's making her project those beliefs onto everyone else she encounters.

As Krieg said earlier, if you get offended when someone calls you weak you’re only revealing how weak you really are. Similarly, Tashigi is insulted that Zoro didn’t go all out against her, but the flip side of that is she’s not good enough to make him go all out. I don’t think Zoro was going out of his way to be insulting, but he doesn’t see any particular reason to be respectful to Tashigi. She’s the one who took that as a personal attack and an insult to her gender completely independent of Zoro’s actual motivations.

#one piece #op ch100 #zoro #tashigi #it's hard to talk about tashigi as a character #without falling into the same sort of chauvinist talking points mra's use to say sexism doesn't exist #i'm sure oda's own misogyny is mixed up in this too #but despite that i still think it's worth examining her character closely #just because you're a victim of sexism doesn't mean you're dealing with it in a good way #that's what makes her an interesting character

[icannotgetoverbirds]

litcherally how the fuck do men hate their wives this is like the best shit ever i love my girlfriend so gotdam much

#byrd chirps #guess we're just built different #go ahead call me pussy whipped I'm having cowpoke times in space with my geefie #genuinely though what the fuck is wrong with 'i hate my wife' boomers #is it the christianity? the sexism? the toxic masculinity? the heteronormativity? all of it? #am i missing a piece here? #anyways if you hate your wife first of all how the fuck are you surviving on tumblr #secondly fuck off and let me enjoy this #third. consider a divorce or separation or like. marriage counseling #i get that not all marital issues can be solved just like that #but it sounds like your problem is you buddy #by the way when i say 'if you hate your wife' what i mean is #'if you're one of Those Boomers that constantly complains about a wife that does everything for you' #or something along those lines #anyways can't wait for these tags to get misinterpreted if and when this post blows up or smth #but if i genuinely fucked up it'd be good to know ig

[rmorde]

Ok. I'm still mad about it.

Look. The ATLA Live Action writers were proud about removing "lots of iffy" things in the original AND giving the Fire Nation more scenes. Ozai being fan service-y is very suspicious too. Add on top of that how they screwed up Sokka's character...

Here's my take on what is going to happen:

One of the beauties in ATLA's writing was how they were able to humanize the Fire Nation. They are the evil bad guys but not all of them. They are victims too - people who suffered under tyranny and deserved saving too... WHICH CAN ONLY BE DONE BY SHOWING "IFFY" THINGS IN CONTRAST!

ATLA successfully showed that the villainous side (Fire Nation) are worth sympathy and empathy WITHOUT PROMOTING IMPERIALISM AND COLONIALISM.

HOWEVER, current evidence already seem to point that won't happen in the Live Action:

They are willing to destroy a main character's story arc and are proud of it because it's "iffy".

If sexism is "iffy", imperialism and colonialism would be under that category which meant the writer happily removed them or toned them down.

These would definitely give them the perfect excuse to give the FN more screen time to likely "subvert expectations" and show how they aren't really that bad. They're just misunderstood antiheroes and not villains. Considering the fan service-y Ozai scenes seen so far, it feels like they are angling for this shitty take. They're giving him tough but caring DILF vibes* (No fuck that because that's Hakoda's thing.)

In conclusion: Due to writers' cowardice and incompetency, ATLA Live Action will likely accidentally justify the Fire Nation's imperialism and colonialism. They will unintentionally promote it as "Not actually that bad and totally a good thing."

Villains totally can have caring DILF vibes. People can love them too.

The problem tho is the live action writers are cowards in writing actual villainous or questionable stuff aka "iffy" stuff. They're likely going to sand down Ozai's abusive streak and cruelty. Hence why the DILF vibes made me annoyed.

In the original, he is an evil asshole who is hot enough to be a DILF. But there is no mistaking that he is an irredeemable monster who destroyed his own family for selfish goals.

I don't think the live-action writers have the stomach to make such "iffy" characterization. They'll make Ozai a misunderstood "antivillain/antihero" DILF with Zuko Woobie-ness. He'd have no evil bad guy vibes. Just DILF... which so not what his character is in the original.

#avatar the last airbender #atla #avatar the last airbender: live action #atla: live action #i'd be over the moon if proven wrong #but with all i've seen so far... i 100% have no faith or trust in the writers #i said it before and i'll say it again: one piece live action was just a fluke #bryke are not perfect writers but they know their stuff with ATLA #them leaving the production is a huge fucking red flag #this is gonna suck #atla fandom: we are so fucked #i truly honestly DO NOT believe their spiel that they toned down the sexism only #yeah right... i bet they toned down everything they deemed 'problematic~' #they are lying like the fucking dai li

[kookoofufu]

Kaido: Yamato identifies as a boy and I couldn't be more pleased! I want the future ruler of Wano to be happy and secure with himself, it sets a good example for the slaves. Big Mom: You let go of a perfectly breedable young girl! You'll regret that, don't you want grandchildren? Whitebeard: Who cares? It's better to have a boy as an heir anyway. Big Mom: Wow, I didn't know you were such a sexist pig. Whitebeard: I'm sexist? You are such a snowflake- Shanks, blitzed out of his mind: Did everyone try the blunt? I thought the blunt was lovely.

#this is why the emperors dont hang out #tw transphobia #tw sexism #one piece #one piece incorrect quotes #one piece memes #one piece meme #four emperors #big mom #kaidou of the beasts #kaido #shanks #once again an idea that would not leave me alone

[dentist-brainsurgeon]

The older I get, the less I like Halo 3, like gameplay, music and set piece wise it's GREAT and I absolutely love replaying it for those aspects, but the story, slight aesthetic changes and bad characterization is just..... Bleh. The only weird characterization I like is Chief and Arby being bros and that's honestly probably the best thing in the game that unfortunately hasn't been explored much(outside of the books, even then still should be explored more)

Oh and Marty O'Donnell should [REDACTED]

#like the sexism and ableism with Cortana. Jonhson constantly having to be rescued #Miranda. and Truth's entire personality doing a 180°(voice change is one thing but they just completely did away with how he was in 2) #Miranda died in a stupid way and MARTY FUCKIN O'DONNELL BEING THE REASON WHY JOHNSON DIED #oh and the aesthetic change of the elites and brutes just doesn't work for me and flood was so bad especially when it came to High Charity #going through a flood infested high charity would be so cool!! but it was tedious and downright ugly to look at #we could've revisited some of the Halo 2 high charity set pieces and see the change done by the flood #but no it was mostly just flesh and pustule hallways that are easy to get lost in #halo 3 is a lot of missed opportunities and most of that is just due to Microsoft pushing for crunch #h2 suffered from crunch and there were concepts lost due to crunch but with all things considered is just a much better story #and Arbiter taking such a big back seat in 3 was so disappointing #I could go on about how much Halo 3 sucks in a character and plot perspective #but I think its just going to be one of things where I should ignore the plot fully and enjoy the gameplay #I will say it IS weird when people complain about Chief and Arby being friends #yeah it could've been handled better but it was ultimately going to happen ajd it was one of the best aspects of 3

[just-a-little-radish]

#Hugh Hefner is a disgusting perverted predatory misogynistic piece of horse shit and nothing bad that comes out about him is surprising #the fact that people defend him and slander any woman who dares break their kinky fantasy of playboy shit is proof that misogyny is THRIVING #I hope Hefner is burning in hell #I hope she finds nothing but peace #and I hope every one of those commenters get karma full force #sexism #misogyny #radfem #radblr #radfems do interact #radfems do touch #radfem safe #pro radfem #anti prostitution #antiporn

[frogsrneat]

Not to like start discourse but,,, thoughts on Oda’s ageism especially with women?

Drawing older women as ugly in art or media isn't very super because it spreads stereotypes. It's like saying all older women are unattractive just because they're getting older. That's not fair, right? People are all different, and beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Plus, it's not just about looks – older women have a lot more to offer than just their appearance. So, it's better to be more respectful and diverse in how we represent them.

When men are consistently portrayed as "cool" while women are not, it reinforces gender stereotypes and can be problematic for a few reasons:

1. Gender Inequality

2. Limited Representation

3. Impact on Self-Perception

4. Reinforces Biases

it's important to remember that coolness, intelligence, and strength have nothing to do with gender. So, it's time for a change where women are portrayed just as cool and capable as men in all kinds of roles and situations. That way, everyone can see that being cool is not about gender, but about being yourself and embracing your strengths.

#one piece #my photo #op #opla #monkey d. luffy #mugiwara no luffy #one piece luffy #black leg sanji #one piece zoro #discourse #blah #gender #sexism #ageism