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jasontoddssuper · 6 months
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I got into an argument with someone over this on one of my Punkflower post's and decided to just ignore it but then i was scrolling through one of my fave Spiderverse artist's blog's and saw the same happen to them on their Punkbyte fanart and got So Fucking Mad so i made this.He is NOT grown,he's just traumatized and is mature for his age as a result and you guys are super gross and weird for insisting he's not a kid because of it,ESPECIALLY since he's black.KEEP MY SON'S NAME OUT OF YOUR MOUTHS‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
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punkeropercyjackson · 2 months
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Okay so i'm thinking about punkness in Atsv and i'm gonna be so real,i can't help but believe they faked out with making Gwen punk like they did Hobie-By which i mean they just gave her the aesthetic and interests but not the mentality and certain actions too.Like yes,she's got the side shave that's partially dyed an unnatural color and eyebrow piercing,the swag costume,the civillian outfits,the being a drummer in a rock band,the snark,the respectfully cheeky flirty attitude to her crushes,the tragic backstoryTM,the rebellion,all that's great and i love her so much for it!!!But at the same time,i wish they'd gone full force with it,again,like they did Hobie,especially because they're literally best friends who're heavily implied to have blooming romantic feelings for eachother and act like a couple already,including living together????I know the last bit is due to George kicking her out but A)that makes Gwen x Hobie even more of a punk x punk love story and B)should've realistically given her motivation to take part in activism like charity events and protests and to HATE COPS.That's legit the whole reason her dad's abusive,that he prioritizes the force over her but she was forced to forgive him instead of giving trans kids an incredibly important lesson that you're under no obligation to love your parents if they treat you badly because that's not what a REAL parent does
For fuck's sake,Peter B was more belivable as her dad in Itsv than George was in Atsv and looking back on it this was probably an accident but notice how not ONCE does Gwen bring up her home life!!Hm,wonder why that is considering what happens only a few months later!It feels ooc for Gwen too because in the comics,she was brutal as SHIT and it was GOOD.She was an anti-hero!!She could even qualify as a Red Hood equivalent more than B*cky B*rnes does!And i get it,they had to make her more kid friendly for a pg audience but they deadass had Hobie use the word 'fascists' onscreen and all but outright saying he killed his canon event cop via the blue laces + 'Yeah,what of it?' combo so they didn't need to take pretty much ALL her edge away other than the death subplot!She dosen't even need to kill,i would've been fine with scenes of her being a bully beater in those flashbacks and peeks into Earth 65 and some offhanded references of her and Hobie doing activism together!
Plus her and Margo not even being friends?????Complete horseshit,bonds between black girls and trans girls are basically inherent and i'm speaking from experience and Margo also deserved as much screentime as Hobs and Pav!And Hobie would NOT fucking date someone without radicalizing them,that's not my son!!!!!I finally get a canon pastel punk trans femme in a franchise i was already into only for her writers not to put their whole pussy into it to make her palpable and quirky for whites instead.Can't have shit in the multiverse
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punkeropercyjackson · 1 month
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Uh,if you guys are so fixated on 'Fem mc ends up with the edgy dude instead of the goody two shoes male protagonist' trope,where's all the hype around them exactly?
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Or let me guess:You're gonna say they don't count because they aren't enemies to lovers or um Ackstually Hobie's an adult!!!(He's not,his age is up for interpreation as confirmed by the writers)as if y'all don't brag about loving age gaps or Hobie dosen't need to date anyone or you 'don't like their aesthetic'.Yeah,right-Y'all raved about Zuko/Katara and Bakugou/Ochako and Felix/Marinette and fucking Reylo but Gwen and Hobs are too healthy and an actual female fantasy that doubles as transfem and real interracial rep instead of steteotypical and racist bs.You guys are all about classic tropes until a black person is involved and then suddenly it's overdone or even 'gross' PLEASE you look like clowns who didn't go to your makeup lessons
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punkeropercyjackson · 1 month
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"The Atsv fandom is so obsessed with Spiderdads because they didn't give us a canon queer relathionship!!!"Yes they did.They literally fucking did,Gwen's finally a canon trans girl after decades of accidental subtext that slowly escalated into equally accidental coding so the writers did research to canonize her and do it respectfully and realistically and they also adapted Hobie as a gnc character basing his style and presentation off irl genderqueer black punks and their dynamic is that he's a slightly older non-cis person with way more experience that took her in after her abusive dad that only pretended to fully support her kicked her out so they became best friends and love eachother with their whole hearts and have a lot in common but also a few differences and act super protective of eachother,that's queer,that's the t in lgbt,it happens irl,it happened IN CANON but none of you talking skidmarks care about trans girls and black trans people and the almost inherent solidarity between us we cherish so dearly so much none of you care about Gwen and Hobie either because Gwen's a cute lil pastel punk trans girl who hasn't finished transitioning and does her best to be nice despite all the trauma fuckery she goes through and probably loves actual indie stuff instead of Taylor Swift or some other poser shit and Hobie's an extremely strongfeatured and by extension equally cute black punk who does actual activism and direct action and his blackness is extremely important both in a meta sense and to him personally and Gwen treats Hobie like a person instead of a pet or an abuser and Hobie treats Gwen like a person too instead of a sex object or a monster so y'all 'just can't relate' since you only care about your white boys who aren't even canon trans because they speak fluid sarcasm and dress like geeks and that's why you'd rather turn Peter B into a sexual harraser WHEN HE'S CANONICALLY A CSA SURVIVOR IN THE COMICS and Miguel into a latin lover who also gets animalized.Leave the fandom i'm so serious,Gwen and Hobie don't deserve to have their beautiful relathionship ignored in favor of.......ALL THIS.I don't even know what to call it,it's just fucking disgusting and i wish y'all had never known Miguel and my mans since 2018 exist ong
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jasontoddssuper · 6 months
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When adult Gwen antis are also Hobie simps.....Like damn,i wonder why the pedophile hates the child they're not attracted to
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punkeropercyjackson · 1 month
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Someone add an Apollo dodgeball meme
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Y'all.
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punkeropercyjackson · 18 days
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Term:The Orihime treatment
Definition:When a female character is extremely interesting and a super good person with very cool skills that're essential to the plot and has a male love interest who is as enamored is with her as she is him but she is written in a way that heavily mirrors irl autistic girls instead of pick mes so she is insulted rentlessly by the fandom for 'weird','creepy','desperate','useless','fake' and even sexually degraded even if she's canonically underaged because failing at 'performing' girlhood 'correctly' is seen by society as deserving of violent humiliation or 'not an actual real kind of woman and was just made up by incels'
Cause:Not being able to get a real problem or anyone in your pants
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punkeropercyjackson · 4 months
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To me Hobie being a mature teenager instead of an adult is in the same sitch as Gwen being trans instead of a trans ally.Often you see people say Hobie is an adult because that's what the Spiderverse crew originally planned like how you see people also often saying Gwen was originally cis so she still is but it makes a lot more sense both in the story and from an irl context for them to be a kid who was just forced to grow up too fast and a teen trans girl
The argument that Hobie 'acts nothing like a teenager' is literally a lie based off nothing and i know this because i've befriended a lot of black teens through the fandoms i'm in and some of us have gotten so close that we consider eachother family and the ones who're traumatized,be it by abusive parents or something else,have the exact same personality as him and he even reminds me of myself when i was in high school if i'd been more outgoing.Because that's just the thing-Hobie isn't supposed to be a NORMAL teenager,he's supposed to be a black traumatized one because that's who he's rep for,just like how Gwen is supposed to be rep for TRANS teen girls instead of cis ones so that's why she dosen't act or look like a cis girl either
The reason Hobie does stuff like extreme rebellion and direct action and even underaged drinking(see the pub line)and takes the parent friend role in the Spiderband is that he had his childhood almost entierly taken away from him but still has traits of a teen like getting along best with people his age and his sense of humor is that at the end of the day,he's still a child mentally and physically.The reason Gwen has a trans flag with 'protect trans kids' on it in her room and her dad has a trans flag patch on his jacket and the crew adjusted her design to give her stronger features and had her say 'People only know half of who i am' is that they wanted to take her accidental trans coding from her previous in incarnations and make it canon for presentation
That's one of the biggest goal's of Spiderverse:Representation.They choose to make Miles the protag because he's afrolatino and took the racist writings from his comics and fixed it by making it accurate to us irl,they changed Pavitr's costume to perfectly reflect his indian heritage,they wrote Rio as exactly like irl afrolatina moms and made Jessica black and Margo a member of the Spiderband to show black women onscreen.Obviously there's flaws in the writing like what they did to Peni(Like making her go from Nge-inspired to moefiying her)and i'll never not critique them but are Hobie being just an adult and Earth 65 Peter being the trans one really the better options and also the ones that makes the most sense?Are they really?
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punkeropercyjackson · 28 days
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They literally look the same age but guess which one's actually a year younger and gets infantalized to hell and back by the fandom over hurting people who're even younger and which one gets called a grown ass man and expected to be the adoptive dad of his entire canon unofficial girlfriend and older brother to the guy he deadass flirts with countless times onscreen
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punkeropercyjackson · 19 days
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Saying kid characters of color can't be kids because 'They don't really act that age' is actual rethoric used to adultify irl traumatized younger poc as an excuse to make emotionally abusing or even sexualizing them look not bad.In addition to the racial aspects,this also plays into society's idea that kids can't be people because 'they're too young to comprehend feelings and thoughts' and it provides a safe haven for REAL child abusers both online and in person and it really shows with how often minors in fandom are cyberbullied by adults for speaking up for themselves even outside of this context
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punkeropercyjackson · 2 months
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Stop calling Hobie Gwen's parental figure,Jessica was her mentor and did her best to play the part y'all think Hobie does for her and their first meeting literally had Gwen ask her 'Will you adopt me?'.Gwen seeing Jessica as her mom and Jessica seeing Gwen as her daughter isn't even subtext,it's just text and y'all are foul for trying to pull this to add fuel to your petty little ship wars to erase a black woman and very possibly adultify a black dude in order to make him a white girl's coddler instead of her friend on equal terms with her like in canon while in the same breath calling out the antiblackness in some of the writing like you're not adding on to it.Someone's calling you!!IT'S THE SPIDER CIRCUS BITCH
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punkeropercyjackson · 3 months
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Saying Tim Drake and Gwen Stacy are bad people for Tim having an 'unrealistic' number of love interests and for Gwen having situationships with both Miles and Hobie is funny as hell actually.You think fictional traumatized teenagers are 'abusive' because they get more bitches than you?????
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punkeropercyjackson · 1 month
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How do people accuse Gwen of acting antiblack while also making weird sexual assumptions about Hobie based off him dressing femme and saying he's a smoker or even a stoner and mean asf when he's canonically a huge sweetheart and insisting he can't be anything but an adult despite all the evidence for him being 17 like the call is coming from inside the house
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punkeropercyjackson · 29 days
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@ Ghostpunk antis who say Gwen borrowing Hobie's sweaters wasn't intended as mutual crushing and that we're just wearing 'shipping goggles'
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The 'romantic rival' thing was never debunked for a reason besties and additionally to weirdos who hate Punkflower because 'Hobie isn't gay'
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It's not our fault y'all watched a movie about how canon events are fake and that dropped one of their trailer's including a 'protect trans kids' banner in the fem mc's room yet think you're doing a moral crusade by telling people they're bad for shipping non-endgame and that you're in the right space to be bigoted against queer character headcanons.Read the room and more importantly a comic
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punkeropercyjackson · 3 months
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'Be normal about characters of color' challenge has been failed by y'all again i see
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