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space-specs · 1 year

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I, T and X <333

Thanks for the ask bestie, this was very fun!!

I - Has tumblr caused you to stop liking any fandoms, if so, which and why

BBC Sherlock. I really wanted to watch this show when it was all over tumblr and all my friends were watching it back in like 2014, but I never got around to it. Eventually, people stepped back and were like "actually, so much about this show sucks so much", and I was just kinda glad I'd never actually watched it yet and now I won't. If I want Sherlock content, tbh, I'll probably just rewatch "Elementary, Dear Data" from Star Trek: TNG. Or finally finish the Enola Holmes stuff.

T - Do you have any hard and fast headcanons that you will die defending, about anything at all (gender identity, sexual or romantic orientation, extended family, sexual preferences like top/bottom/switch, relationship with poetry, seriously anything)

Duke Thomas cannot make direct eye contact with people. It gives him a splitting headache. Since eyes both absorb and reflect light, looking directly at someone's eyes creates a sort of feedback loop of light beams for him.

Cass is, in all actuality, older than Jason. However, because there is some ambiguity about her precise age, both of them frequently insist they are the older sibling of the two. They could very easily confirm who is older; they both refuse because they don't want to be wrong.

Steph is more of the common sense in the batfam than people give her credit for. Don't get me wrong, she is far from normal (she is vigilante, she grew up in Gotham), but she is the one with the wherewithal to, idk, solve her problems by actually talking to people. She's clever and witty and quick on her feet and actually some really good and really practical people skills.

Duke and Jason are both functionally immortal for different reasons. (Also, they are good brothers and DC needs to bring back the two of them getting to interact).

Tim doesn't call Bruce "dad" and probably never will. Not because he doesn't see Bruce as his parent, but because "dad" has some very complex connotations for him and he doesn't want to apply those to Bruce. More specifically, because good batdad is canon to me, Bruce is better than what "dad" means to him. (It’s also important to me that Jack does try to be a father to Tim and does love him. But loving your kid is not always enough. Sometimes you still hurt them).

There's definitely something I'm forgetting that I'm even more die hard about, but this is already more than I intended on writing for this one 😂 needless to say this is a fun question. (Also maybe putting this out will kickstart me writing the fics I have planned based on 3 of these)

X - top 5-10 characters who are yoUR PRECIOUS BABIES AND YOU WILL DIE DEFENDING THEM

Tried very hard not to just put every single batkid on this list but know that I would go to war for any of them I love them all so much.

In no particular order

1. Jason Todd -- listen, do I think his philosophy on crime should be applied to the real world? No, absolutely not. Has he done anything wrong ever? Also no.

2. Duke Thomas (bonus: the whole We Are Robin crew) -- if you hate Duke Thomas, meet me in Denny's parking lot. Something is clearly wrong with you and I will right it via blunt force trauma /j.

3. Tim Drake -- Catch me untangling the mess that is his fanon and canon characterizations and weaving a beautiful tapestry out of it. I see so many wrong interpretations about him and I am tired. Very carefully sorting out what should and shouldn't be kept from both fanon and canon every time I write him.

4. Cassandra Cain -- she has done nothing wrong ever and she deserves to be Batman. my favorite weirdgirl ever <3

5. Trevor Belmont -- my wife /p just introduced me to Castlevania and I did not expect to love it this much. Trevor is my babygirl and I would die for him.

6. Sypha -- I love her soooo much and I am dreading any potential romantic arcs to come about since she's the female lead because I really don't think she needs it. Please let her be cool af and single and not ruined in favor of the inevitable contrived romance, oh god.

7. Rise!Mikey -- I started my dive into tmnt content with Rise and then I tried to go back and watch 2012 because people said it was also good but they were so mean to Mikey 😭 I couldn't do it. He is like a squeaky toy to me.

8. Rise!Donnie -- I am captivated by his autism swag. Enough said. (Him and Mikey as a brother duo is so precious to me).

9. Razer -- Watch Green Lantern: The Animated Series if you haven't already. Do it. I promise you will not regret it. I won't say anything because spoilers but I have so much to say.

10. Talia al Ghul -- I am taking a knife to canon and carving out the parts I don't like because she is a good mom, goddammit!

Bonus: Koriand'r. I haven't read enough comics to know much about her, but I respect woman juice everyday for my favorite 6+ ft buff alien woman. (She should get to be huge and strong and I will fight for that).

#ask game #spec-text-ular #dc #batfam #batfam headcanons #duke thomas #stephanie brown #cassandra cain #tim drake #jason todd #just tagging the hc section because i don't want to clog up any other tags with this lol #had a lot of fun with this and ending up writing way more than i expected lol

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aeligsido · 3 years

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So I recently saw some posts about the new Batgirls title and how it’s possible that StephCass becomes canon in it. And I have some thoughts™️ about it, and StephCass in general.

I’m going to start this by saying that yes, absolutely, I want representation. It’s super important, and I’m not mad that writers think about making it more canon (bc apparently it’s already canon in Future State, which, valid), and honestly, if there’s a wlw couple to make canon this one works very well. I’m also not here to destroy anyone's joy or anything, I just want to give my opinion about something that has been bothering me for a moment now. This ship, and the people who ship it, is very valid, and I totally understand why it’s popular and why people like it.

That being said, this ship doesn’t spark joy for me. It’s a question of personal taste, I suppose, and there’s a few things that bother me that really have nothing to do with what I want to talk about today (not really, at least).

It’s just that, as a Steph fan, I can’t help but feel like it’s a huge disservice to her character. She was created to be Tim’s love interest, then fridged when the writers realized she was becoming more popular than him, then brought back to life when they realized that people wanted her back. And sure, having her not being Tim’s love interest anymore and existing outside of it, choosing the person she will love herself, it’s amazing and totally something that should be done to get her further away from these origins.

The problem for me is that Steph is still stuck having to be the love interest of one of the Batkids to exist -- both in fanon and in canon, apparently. With Tim and Cass for the most part, or sometimes Jason or even Damian -- and there’s no shame for anyone if you like these ships!! It’s totally valid, once again, and I’m not here to police what you should like or not. It just bothers me that Steph can only exist as a love interest, and no, the fact that she went from a boy to a girl is not really an improvement. Because at the end of the day, she’s still stuck as being nothing more than the girl who has to fall in love, and nothing more.

And, again, as a Steph fan, it bothers me a whole lot. Like, for starters I can’t read a Steph-centric fic without it having TimSteph or StephCass, both ships that I don’t personally like, so it’s upsetting for me, but I also feel like it spits on the face of all the development she should go through. Steph is a strong young woman, who was raised in abuse, comes out from it, and chooses to be smiling and optimistic and to believe in a better future, even if she has to fight for it. She has her own personality and her own history, her own moral and her own belief, and it’s too often relegated to nothing so she can be the perfect girlfriend.

Besides, Steph has proved herself a dozen times already. She shouldn’t have to be “the girlfriend” to be accepted into the Batfam. She shouldn’t have to be a love interest to be considered interesting and good enough for them. It’s forgetting, once again, everything she is, but also her other relationships. The fact that she’s Damian's big sister, and that she was the one who helped him being a kid. The fact that Dick did try to mentor her, as much as he could because back then he has his own very messy life, and then when he was Batman and she was Batgirl -- sure, he wasn’t okay for her to go out again at first, but you have to consider that his latest memories of her was probably her funerals and how yet again a kid died in his family colors, so, yeah. But he still accepted her and tried, and they could have an interesting relationship if anyone really tried to write them. She has an interesting relationship with Barbara as well, who was her mentor but who also was judgemental toward her at the beginning; with Bruce, whom relationship with her is extremely complicated, but I can’t help but feel like they would probably have been closer if Bruce hadn’t been lost in his grief and refusing to get his head out of his ass -- he did like Steph and recognize she was good, he was just too afraid to really do anything else than reject her; she has her relationship with Leslie, who sacrificed so much just for her; even in the new comics and the New52 that make me want to commit arson, Steph has a relationship with Duke, apparently friendly and/or sibling-like, and it should be explored more!!

But instead, once again, Steph is relegated to love interest. And it’s sad. It just makes me sad. She deserves so, so much more.

AND, I’m absolutely not against Steph dating a girl. I’ve been hcing her as pansexual since I started in the DC fandom lmao. I just feel like Steph should have contact outside of the Batfam and Gotham. She should be a real part of Young Justice, or the Teen Titans. She should have friends outside of that one time with Kara (who has been used as “the super best friend” of almost every Batgirl, btw, so I don’t even feel like it’s special), have way more contacts, have way more people she could get to know and date and go out with and laugh and cry with and everything.

Steph should be spreading her wings, but instead DC -- and, despite all, the fanon as well -- keeps her pinned to the ground. And it’s just very sad for me.

(Steph wasn’t a Robin for nothing. You can debate a lot about why she was one, how she became one, but the point is the same -- she’s a Robin, and she’s meant to fly.)

(Tbh I also have a lot of things to say about how annoyed I am about Cass using the Orphan codename, how deaged they both are right now and how it destroys so much of their history, but that’s probably for another time lmao.)

So. Yeah. I’m not mad about DC plans -- or not -- to make StephCass canon, or whatever. I just don’t vibe with this ship, but again -- personal taste! I’m personally aware it’s only my opinion, but yeah, I just wanted to get it out. You’re all free to ship whatever you want, I’m not here to judge that!!

And, again, as a huge Steph fan, it just makes me sad as a whole. She just deserves better than constantly being the love interest.

#dc #batfam #stephanie brown #cassandra cain #meta #AGAIN i have nothing against the ship #it's so valid #i totally get why people ship it #but steph deserves better #not better than cass bc cass is cass and wonderful #but better than being the love interest #also side note that i absolutely adore cass #even if she too is mistreated a lot by fanon #but it's probably a meta for another time #i just love my girls so much and the situation makes me sad #it just feels like a 'let's put these characters together and calling it a day'#beside when i see them in fanfic it's so often just in the background #just so tim can be free to date kon or another boy #and uuuuurg it's a whole another thing entirely but upsetting all the same #ANYWAY YES that was my controversal post lmao #love to you all #remember to be civil to each other if you interact with this post plz <3

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flashfuture · 2 years

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i mean I don’t think Damian would hand it over and tbh I don’t want him to either? like at all I don’t think he’s done being Robin just yet. especially bc as soon as he got his character development slash redemption arc they trashed all of that lol. but like had this been way down the timeline sure I could see maps being who he hands it off to… but like I also think that Damian’s not ready to give it up. I mean they still have tim being Robin, let’s solve that issue first! or idk, just, don’t get a new Robin! if you want maps to be a vigilante so badly give her her own codename. she’s more the guy in the chair type so let her work with barbara. i literally don’t care but as cool a concept as I think it is maps is not ready to be Robin and there’s no way damian is gonna give it up anytime soon yknow

Oh for sure that’s pretty much what I’m thinking. I’m just wondering if DC is thinking the same. They don’t exactly take great care of these characters lol.

I am hoping for something for Tim an identity of his own i don’t know how for so long they’ve resisted doing it. And Damian settling into himself. All Robins have to fly the nest at some point.

In my ideal world Damian is the last Robin and the one to maintain the name. I think Damian is well aware of the dangers and tribulations that come with being a Batman protege and i cant see him wanting that for Maps.

I wonder if perhaps they’ll do a story of Maps realizing she isn’t cut out for the life and go back to school. Or something like you said with Babs.

Maps is only 14 and she wasn’t raised like Damian Cass and Dick even to fight + I don’t think she would handle the training like Jason Tim Steph and Duke got to be fighters. I like Maps spirit but the type of steel the other Batkids have is like you can almost feel it on the page and I just don’t with her.

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incorrectqus · 3 years

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Which Batkid I’d get along best with:

(Also I wanna see who other ppl. Would get along best with too and why.)

Tbh out of all the batboys I think the one I’d get along with the best is Tim. Dude just seems chill and plus I could talk about science and probably video games with him. Also he’s just hella relatable.

Jason seems a little too out there and though I love his character idk how good I would get along with him and honestly I’d probably argue with him a lot.

Dick is a sweet guy and probably an amazing friend, but I probably wouldn’t be best friends with him.

Damian is too young and honestly if him and I did start to talk I would wanna smack him so hard, but seeing as he’s a minor that would be a felony so I’d have to wait till he was 18 and then that would only be a misdemeanor.

Duke I feel like is too into the vigilante life (I mean they all are, but this dude has done some crazy shit on Bats’ request the other batkids would/have refused. But I mean from time to time I could see me being friends with him.

Cassandra is very quite and keeps to herself, nothing wrong with that, but as a person who is more extroverted than introverted I don’t think she would appreciate it much.

Stephanie on the other hand seems to me like that person who always wants to go out, but never can sit still and just hang around which is just ugh. I don’t like going out all the time only sometimes. And although she seems really sweet, I couldn’t see myself being close friends with her.

Barbara is easily my favorite batgirl, but I think our ways of living are just too different. She seems more active and always needing to have something in her hands, but not really seems like a person I could easily just lay back with.

#those are my thoughts #what are y’all’s #dc comics #batkids #batfamily #Tim drake #Jason todd #dick Grayson #Damian wayne #duke thomas #stephanie brown #Barbara Gordon #cassandra cain

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bigskydreaming · 4 years

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I really think that Godspeed, Lane Kent (but retconned to be Zod clone) and Koryak would get along with Jason very well, and of course Artemis but she’s a popular suggestion. Also Rankorr but since he’s a Red Lantern he’s probably not a necessity. (Also thanks for being another person that chooses Anima/Courtney Mason!).

I’ve never considered Grant Emerson, Todd Rice or Tom Bronson though. Probably because I didn’t like choosing characters I believed wouldn’t be okay with the occasional murder

Tbh, there’s not really a ton of material out there for several of those characters (admittedly, at least just not that I’ve read), such as Koryak, and so I tend to view lineups like that as being more about the iconography of Jason being part of a JLA style lineup rather than assembling an interesting mix of powers, backstories and personalities regardless of mantle. Its not that I don’t see the symbolic weight of such a line-up, and its certainly not that it CAN’T be interesting, its more just like.....tbh, I think one of DC’s biggest flaws is their tendency to lean into their symbolism/iconography in place of actual story. Going for the most resonant IMAGE instead of crafting the most resonant plot. That sort of lineup, I think, leans directly into that particular hang-up of theirs, and so that probably has a lot to do with why I’m more resistant to it, if that makes sense?

IMO the best team line-ups or ensembles, the ones that stick in your memory longest, tend to be the ones that are more challenging to put together, where they’re not as obvious and the writer really had to do the legwork to figure out the how’s and why’s of them coming together and STAYING together for plausible reasons....because those end up being the teams that have the strongest IN-STORY foundations, y’know?

As for Grant, Todd and Tom not being okay with the occasional murder, you’re absolutely right, they wouldn’t be that cavalier and casual about it, but there’s one specific element of that line-up for Jason that plays into that.....and that’s that I crafted that lineup specifically for an AU where Jason doesn’t die and becomes Flamebird rather than Red Hood.

I actually have no problem with Jason having a personal code of ethics that makes room for killing certain criminals like for instance the Joker or Black Mask (as long as that’s not just used as an excuse to make him mindlessly trigger-happy, as happens in a lot of canon as well as fics) so this isn’t a judgment call on that.....BUT I have a biiiiiiiiiig issue with the way its just taken for granted that Jason was always ‘destined’ to be a killer, because he was the ‘angry Robin’ and he questioned Batman’s methods and methodologies at times, and believed they let certain criminals off too easy. That could easily describe EVERY Robin at times, Dick and Tim have both had similar internal struggles at times, etc, and so to me it just doesn’t hold up that it was always just inevitable that Jason go that route one way or another.

A lot of people point to the Garzonas story as an indication that Jason was already going down that path even before his death, but that only holds weight if you believe that Jason really did push Garzonas, which I don’t - I think he was capable of it, yes, like, it COULD have happened. But I don’t think he was capable of it and showing no visible sign of remorse or guilt over it happening, like unless you believe he’d already killed someone before that, that would have been his first time taking a life. And I just don’t buy that he could be so stone-cold about the very first time doing that (and at a time in his life where he still very much wanted and craved Bruce’s approval and feared not having it) and not show ANY actual signs of having done it that Bruce could pick up on....since Bruce wasn’t actually picking up on anything in the way of actual evidence that Jason had done it, and rather was operating entirely off of his own fears that Jason had done it.

And again, there’s also the fact that most of the Batkids, not even just the Robins, have at one point or another been in a story where they faced a similar choice, and it was similarly not a given which way they would land at the end of the day.....except in pretty much everyone else’s equivalent story, they had room for follow-up and deeper exploration of their thoughts and feelings around it that Jason just flat-out didn’t get, due to ADITF taking place not long after. In hindsight, taking Jason’s death and return in UTRH, the Garzonas story seemingly falls neatly into place as step one down Jason’s road to Murderville, but I think if Jason HADN’T died when he had, if there’d been more time and exploration devoted to the aftermath of that story AND more of it taken place in Jason’s own POV.....I think that rather than being an inevitable stepping stone to a casual incorporation of murder into his personal methodology, its over-all place in the tapestry of Jason’s stories might very well have ended up looking very different.

So I’ve got no problem with Jason as the Red Hood when its done well (ie NOT Morrison’s take, lmao), but I have a particular interest in exploring the idea that Jason’s story wasn’t FATED to go in one direction and one direction only. And that’s where the Titans lineup with him, Grant, Tom and Todd, etc, comes from. Like, in my mind, there’s plenty of room for Jason to wind up with a world-view and methodology that would’ve been on par with most of the Outsiders in Dick and Roy’s Outsiders lineup....‘rougher’ than the average hero, for sure, but still without question ‘which side’ he was ultimately on.

I do agree that it wouldn’t really work to have a lineup of Jason, Grant, Tom, etc, come together for the first time AFTER Jason’s return in canon. They wouldn’t mesh then, absolutely. If they’d been friends before Jason’s death, you could still make it work with him as the Red Hood due to pre-existing loyalties and camaraderie, and with them perhaps having a calming or mitigating effect on Jason’s Pit Madness or most destructive instincts, but even that’s not a total given and would really come down to the execution of that.

*Shrugs* Ultimately there’s a lot of different ways it could go, I think, but yeah I don’t disagree that Jason being like LET’S GET OUR MURDER ON, WOOHOO and Grant and Tom in particular being like YEAH MURDER TIME WOOHOO, like....no, that isn’t one of them, lmfao.

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dcwnedrobin · 4 years

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It’s a bird, it’s a plane, it’s JASON TODD/RED HOOD, an ANTIHERO from DC! HE is TWENTY FOUR years old and look an awful lot like AVAN JOGIA. I hear that they work as a SORT OF MERCENARY. Rumor has it they were AGAINST the Accords and ARE NOT registered under the new laws. I wonder what they’ll find with their new beginning!

That gif is jason at all of his family tbh if you haven’t seen ghost wars avan basically has a jason mood and i’m loving it

hello this is my first jason attempt please bare with me !

Background ;;

Jason grew up in crime alley. His father was a criminal and was killed by one of Two-Face’s men, his mother was a drug addict who died of an overdose. Jason was left orphaned and alone as a child, and had to resort to crime to survive

He had the bright idea of trying to boost the batmobile’s wheels and unfortunately got caught by the Bat himself

Bats took him to a school being run by Ma Gunn in hopes he would be reformed but Jason uncovered the illegal activities going on there and escaped. When he was found again by Batman Jason explained was was going on, and helped Bruce take Ma Gunn in for her crimes

It was then, at age 12, that Jason was adopted by Bruce and made the next Robin

After 6 months of training he was able to go out into the field with Bruce, but as time went on it was obvious he was much more impulsive and reckless, borderline ruthless with the criminals they were dealing with. He struggled with the expectation to be like the first Robin, which just made him that much more determined to make his own way in the role

Jason’s anger and reckless ways eventually lead to the death of a criminal, for which he was grounded as Robin for a time. During this time he found out his biological mother was still alive, and not the woman he had known as a child, and set off to find her, tracking the clues to the middle east. At the same time, Bruce was tracking a trail to the Joker which lead to the same place, and they were able to stop a bombing set up by the Joker but didn’t catch the man himself

They continued on the trail to find Jason’s mother and, eventually, located her. It was all a ruse though, a trap set by Joker - he had blackmailed Jason’s mother and when Jason spotted him he followed Joker and his mother to a warehouse

In trying to save his mother Jason was captured, tied up, and brutally beaten with a crowbar by Joker, before a bomb was planted in the warehouse and Jason and his mother were left to die. Despite Jason’s attempts to untie her and find an escape, the bomb went off before they could do so, and both were killed before Bruce could arrive

Thanks to some reality-shifting, Jason was brought back to life while still in his coffin in the ground, forcing him to claw his way out of his own grave in order to survive his new resurrection, but collapsed and was hospitalised. After a year in a coma, Talia Al Ghul found him and intended to nurse him back to health

Unfortunately the damage was too extensive for Jason to fully return to the way he was, so in a last ditch attempt Talia immersed him in the Lazarus Pit, resurrecting him fully

Upon learning (from Talia) that his death has gone unavenged, Jason’s rage and trauma of his brutal murder drove him to learn and advance his skills in firearms and weapons, poisons and antitoxins, bomb making, and god knows what else so he can confront and kill Batman for letting his death go unavenged, and the new Robin for replacing him

Eventually Jason returned to Gotham with a new mantle - the Red Hood. He began taking control of criminal gangs and rising up in Gotham’s underworld, revealing himself to Bruce - who had no idea he was alive until that point - and generally just... letting his rage drive his decisions. He was a mess.

He’s come and gone to Gotham a number of times - Gotham is his home, he doesn’t want to and can’t let it go. He’s tried to kill Dick, Tim, and Bruce more than a few times in the early days. As time has gone on and Jason has learned to deal with his anger he’s come to terms with Bruce and the others - though he’s not sure he’ll ever feel like he’s part of the family anymore, seeing himself as more of the black sheep

During some of his stints away he’s pulled together the “Outlaws” - first with Roy and Koriand’r, then with Bizzaro and Artemis, usually working towards unravelling some kind of underground criminal group or plot. Ultimately everything leads him back to Gotham though, one way or another.

Look i left a lot of specific stuff out of this because Jason’s got a long history so please feel free to hit me up for any specific backstory stuff !

Good/Important To Know ;;

Jason uses guns. A lot of guns. He has no problem with guns. Always has two handguns with him, and also has a sword as part of his standard attire at the moment

He’s currently sporting the new Red Hood look and has the grey streak up front in his hair because of the Lazarus Pit

He has a much more brutal version of justice, he’s definitely not below killing criminals who deserve it. He tries not to kill when Bruce is around, and doesn’t kill in Gotham on Bruce’s request - his attempt at an olive branch, really. Otherwise? As far as Jason’s concerned criminals who hurt innocent people are fair game

In terms of where he is with the family - it’s been a few years (since Tim was Robin, probably think around when Bruce died and Dick took over with Damian as Robin) since Jason was trying to kill the family. He’s come to terms with things - not necessarily forgiven everything, but he’s okay with Bruce and the others now. In saying that he’s aware that most of the Batkids don’t like him or approve of how he operates - he will avoid them wherever possible purely just because he doesn’t have the capacity to deal with that

Jason has a dog - she’s a very protective dog Jason took in and he calls her Dog. He figures it’s as good a name as any. He loves her a lot though.

Jason is ridiculously rich - he’s done a decent amount of time as a Merc and is currently working as one now so he works for a lot of money. He doesn’t splash out the way Bruce and the family do but he has plenty of money stashed away.

There’s still a lot of anger built up inside Jason - but he’s learned to deal with it. He’s much more pragmatic and logical now, but in a fight you’ll see his brutality come out

He’s very sassy and sarcastic, very walled off and it takes a bit to let anyone in. Even with people he’s close with, there’s always a sense of armour - but those are the people who probably don’t mind it so much. He’s not really here for showing his vulnerabilities.

In a hand-to-hand fight, there’s a good chance Jason can kick your ass. He’s trained with the best and most brutal of them, he worked with Talia Al Ghul for a decent stint of time not to mention having years of experience behind him, and he’s not afraid to fight dirty. Don’t underestimate him.

#murder tw #death tw #drug use tw #drug addiction tw #torture tw #guns tw #how many tws are attached to this poor boy's life #beginagainintro

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lananiscorner · 6 years

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Could you rate the Batfamily members on a scale from 1 to 10?

Thanks for your ask, Anon, but um... on a scale from 1 to 10 for what? How much I generally like them? Combat prowess? Detective skills? Brooding level? Fluffiness and huggability? Trauma and certain death probability?

For now, I’m just gonna assume you mean likeability, so here are my ratings from 1 - “please go die in a fire” to 2 - “I love them and I would fight Joker blindfolded for them” (we go with age before beauty here and Post Crisis and Arkhamverse only):

Alfred: 9 (This man is a treasure and a total badass. Only Sane Man.)

Bruce: 7 (Really depends on who’s writing him. I just cannot forgive some of the asshole things he has done to the batkids.)

Barbara: 8 (Only Sane Woman. Cool under pressure, warm and friendly when needed. Disabled and still kicking ten kinds of ass.)

Dick: 8 (Barely. Like, Barbara is an 8+, he’s an 8-, imo. Very nuanced and interesting character, but can be such a massive hypocrite.)

Jason: 10 (Does he have flaws? Yes, but they are all very believable flaws that make sense for his character and it’s only because of Arkham!Jason that I started writing again. Come fight me, Joker, fucking evil clown!)

Tim: 6 / 8 (6 in Post Crisis, 8 in Arkhamverse. Why the difference? Because PC!Tim really can be quite the jerk, especially towards women, whereas Arkham!TIm is basically The Voice Of Reason and deserves all the hugs.)

Stephanie: 7 (I don’t care about her all that much, but I assume it’s mostly a case of “haven’t seen enough of her yet”. Has potential, though.)

Cassandra: 9 (This adorable, little badass! Wise beyond her years in some ways and yet incredibly naive in others. I love her.)

Damian: 5 (I don’t really care about him, tbh, and I don’t like how he practically got away with a lot of stuff that Jason keeps getting beaten down for, but I appreciate his character development.)

For the record, I make it my policy to consider every character, and as a matter of fact every RL person as well, a 5 upon first contact, no matter their origins, ideologies or affiliations. It’s their actions which then make them either rise or fall in my estimation.

Please don’t ask me about any of the New 52 characters, because I haven’t read nearly enough about any of them to make an informed judgment.

#asks #Anon #batfam #batfam rating

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fanfiction-and-coffee · 7 years

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So I saw that you like PJO and I do too!! I was wondering if you could do headcanons(or one-shot if u do those) where Bruce has a teen daughter that he doesn't know about that's the daughter of a Greek Goddess(maybe like Hecate?). And like how the batfam would react to it and all the dangerous stuff that happens to her like the war with Kronos and all that stuff? (Sry this is really long. Btw your work is amazing!!!!❤️❤️)

thanks babe!! hecate is the most underappreciated greek goddess tbh. I can’t remember if she actually came up in pjo (it’s been a while since I read the later books in the series) but I looked it up and she actually does exist as a character in the new 52??? (mostly wonder woman, for obvious reasons.) so that’s cool. thanks dc comics wiki.

I’ve never done any kind of fandom crossover before so for these headcanons I’m just going to mash together bits and pieces of the percy jackson mythos, actual greek mythology, and dc lore and hope for the best lmao (also kept the reader gender-neutral if that’s okay!)

I would… not be surprised if Bruce had hooked up with an Actual Goddess at some point tbh. It’s not even that much weirder than any of his canon love interests.

I’m laughing at the idea of him having another child that he didn’t know about though. The poor guy is going to develop a phobia of his girlfriends getting pregnant and hiding the kid from him to use as Leverage later. Help him.

Okay but being Hecate’s daughter would be?? Really really cool??? Like, imagine being raised by the goddess of magic and sorcery. (Plus, her animal symbol is the dog so that’s definitely an added bonus.) You’d grow up surrounded by spellbooks and charms, and your mom would be more than happy to teach you how to use them. (Plus, as previously mentioned, she’s associated with dogs, so there’s always a few puppies around her home.)

A lot of people would assume that the goddess of witchcraft would be all distant and cold, but actually in Ancient Greece Hecate was also associated with childbirth and was a protector of the home, so I think she’d be a great mom! She may be seen as mysterious by others, but with her child she’s very warm and nurturing.

She is a busy woman though. (Most of the gods are.) So you would grow up spending a lot of time alone with nothing better to do than practice your magic. This results in you becoming a very powerful sorcerer. (I’m definitely imagining you growing up to be kind of a cross between Raven from Teen Titans and Wonder Woman as far as powers and abilities go.)

If we’re going with Percy Jackson lore though, there is that whole rule about the gods not being allowed to have any contact with their mortal children. Hecate is a minor goddess so she’s not being watched as closely as the Olympians, but she still has to be careful to keep things quiet so no one finds out about your existence. (This is the main reason she never told Bruce about you.)

I imagine that after the events of The Last Olympian (aka after that rule is lifted) you get a lot more freedom, since you don’t have to hide anymore. This is the point where you decide to head to Gotham and finally catch up with your estranged father.

Bruce and Damian return to the Batcave one night and find you just chilling, waiting for them to get home. This A.) gives them both a minor heart attack, and B.) means that your first meeting with your dad and half-brother consists of both of them trying to subdue you and then being really confused when you use your magic to disarm them.

One loooooong explanation later, Damian is looking vaguely horrified by the idea of another sibling to put up with, and Bruce isn’t sure whether he wants to hug you or slap himself. (He probably gets Diana to help him confirm that you really are who you say you are, just because at this point he has good reason to be paranoid.)

As far as the other batkids go, I think Cass probably accepts you the easiest. Baby girl has Seen Some Shit, so at this point finding out that her dad has a powerful demi-god child that no one knew about gets barely more than a blink out of her. She’s also really good at reading people, and she can tell you have good intentions. (She also introduces you to Stephanie, who is a literal ray of sunshine and warms up to you immediately.)

The boys are a little slower to come around. Dick is generally a pretty friendly guy, but he’s also been in the game long enough to develop a healthy sense of caution. Once he warms up to you, he pretty much treats you the same way he treats all the other baby bats. Big Brother of the Year™ right here.

Tim also takes a while to get used to you, but he’s pretty chill. He is very impressed and a little freaked out by your magic, but he’s a curious little bean and loves hearing your stories about the Greek gods and about all the Magical Adventures™ you’ve gotten up to.

Barbara and Jason pretty much don’t have any kind of relationship with you aside from “yeah I kind of know them,” and Damian, for his part, gives you just as much attitude as he gives everyone else. (Except maybe Tim.)

#i love any excuse to geek out over mythology #requested #batfam headcanons #bruce wayne #batfam #dc #percy jackson and the olympians #crossover headcanon #greek mythology #hecate #pjo anon

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Anonymous said: Concept: Batkids playing Twister

Result: two shouting matches, widespread sabotage, one fistfight

Anonymous said: Can you bless us with some post-New Years angst?

I’ll get to it ://// I have two angst drafts, but frankly I’m having A Day and it might take awhile to scrape myself back together. I’ll get it done as soon as I can

Anonymous said: Whoop! Happy New Year!!!

Thank you! Y'all too

Anonymous said: something good? my bf is coming back from retreat tmrw and i'm in a good mood haha! happy new year to you❤️❤️

That’s fantastic! I hope y'all have fun

Anonymous said: my something good is that I found your blog

Oh goodness I’m all a blushing thank you friend :D

Anonymous said: My something good: I get to see my long distance best friend on Monday

Sam??? If this is not Sam, amazing!!! I’m so happy for you

If this is Sam kindly rEMOVE YOURSELF you are making me EMOTIONAL and I have a reputation to uphold

@i-am-a-wip:

Thank you Amyyy, to you too ^^ ugh I guess you could say I overcame something I thought I never would and I’m honestly really glad and relieved

I don’t know what happened exactly, but congratulations!! Sounds like it was really hard, and I’m glad you made it out :)

@lunascharm Declaring my major in Geology and starting my degree ☺️💙

Exciting! Good luck with the rocks

@hobbitsetal TAP DANCING LESSONS

Whoaaaaa that’s super cool!!

@batmanfan3492 Graduating from college this june!! Hopefully anyway haha hope your year is fun and eventful!

Me too! I’m sure it’ll be great!

@hill-creature i got a cat and her name is applesauce

That’s an incredible name for a cat tbh

@graysonslittlebird My new years resolution is to get my High School diploma!

That’s great! I hope it goes well (but I’m sure it will!)

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I was about to say, I can't see Jason letting his guard down as much as intoxication would. I CAN see Jason drinking apple juice and pretending to be drunk. (Funny how I can remember Dick drinking, never more than one or two drinks, and Jason refusing wine, but the fanfic writers get it al wrong.)

Yeah, tbh, I don’t really see any of the Batkids ever being or becoming even casual drinkers. They all value control too much, and have too much experience with mind and mood-altering substances for it to be appealing to them in my personal opinion.

Just my personal headcanon is like, they tend to treat drinking as like, another skill to acquire. They try it to maybe just have enough experience with it that they can fake it undercover and know what they’re doing, or that if they end up in a situation where they have to take at least a quick drink to sell their cover like, they’re not going to be totally blind-sided by the taste or sensation, especially because most of their reputations don’t or aren’t likely to lend themselves to being completely unfamiliar with alcohol. And maybe they occasionally make an point to build up a tolerance in case for some reason they need it, but I honestly can’t really ever buy any of them as casual drinkers.

I mean, I focus a lot on Dick’s times brainwashed or under someone else’s control, and also his rigid insistence on self-determination in his life, and I just can’t honestly see any mindset where he’s like yes, lowering my inhibitions and lessening my ability to be in control of myself is exactly what I’m looking for. Its kinda like how I drastically disagree with takes on him as submissive in any kind of dom/sub fic, lol. Its not about the partner, its about the fact that Dick isn’t the kind of control freak who looks for opportunities to take a break from the stresses of holding such an iron control over his self.....rather, IMO, Dick is that way BECAUSE of how often he’s had virtually NO control of himself or what happens to him, and how much that always....sucks for him.

He tries to maintain self-control and control stuff in his life wherever and whenever he can because he’s not about to lose any of the basically rare opportunities to not HAVE to push back against someone else’s will or expectations for him, where he can just be uncontested in being in charge of his autonomy and own destiny. And I honestly have never seen anything in his character that suggests he’d ever remotely be looking for or welcome to opportunities to basically just....willingly hand over the control of himself that he fights soooo damn hard to obtain and maintain....because when has that EVER ended well for him, you know? So I just....don’t buy sub Dick and never have, and I don’t buy Dick as a casual drinker even, for pretty much the same exact reasons.

Jason I see as a bit more complicated, because of a couple factors. First, there’s the presence of drugs and alcohol in his early life and how much that affected his life as just a bystander, essentially. And its not like every child of an alcoholic parent grows up to be hostile to alcohol, etc. But in Jason’s case I feel that he would be, like he’d almost personify drugs and alcohols as an actual antagonist in his life that have made him suffer, been the actual enemy that prevented him from having a real go at a family with his first parents. And thus he’d just be viciously opposed to them in their entirety, like even as a expansive, nebulous concept of them and everything related to them. Which would also play into things like his insistence that drug dealers in Gotham not sell to kids, etc.

Also, there’s the fact that Jason kinda ended up with....gap years in his development, where the normal linear timeline of developing as a teenager was derailed by his death and then supplanted by a very unorthodox later development that was guided by assassins and influenced by an external-turned-internal force that had a definite influence on his emotions and thought patterns at times. So Jason kinda missed out on a number of years where he could have potentially worked through a lot of his childhood issues with abuse, his parents and drugs and alcohol to a degree further than he did in canon, but just......never got the opportunity to. So it was like....hitting pause on all of that and then unpause when he actually came back to Gotham and rejoined society in his own way, as that put him around these kinds of things again and forced an internal confrontation with how he felt about them now.

And then there’s also the matter of the Pit itself.....much like Dick, but in entirely different ways, Jason has been extremely impacted by things that are not his fault or choosing, that originate OUTSIDE of him and end up controlling or influencing him internally, again through no choice of his own.....and thus, same as Dick, I don’t see how any substance that lessened his control over himself during the times he actually HAS it, would like....remotely appeal to him.

But then again on the other hand, I do think Jason is very self-destructive at times, not more so than Dick, as he can be very self-destructive as well, but just in different ways. Like, Dick IMO is someone who self-destructs quietly and over time. Suffering in silence, not availing himself of any of the opportunities he has to get help from others in various matters because he either doesn’t trust that they’ll prioritize him or he doesn’t feel that he deserves to be, or a combination of both. Jason, IMO, is neither innately more self-destructive or less, its just that....his tendency towards self-destruction manifests pretty explosively, like, in singular burning bright kind of instances that flare up, are just colossally bad decisions that he very quickly regrets, but then die back down and leave him cleaning up the aftermath, but at least having gotten whatever caused that particular turn towards self-destruction like, kinda out of his system.

So his means of self-destruction tend to just be LOUDER, and more.....in your face...but they also come and go more quickly, IMO. And one of those are pretty much the only time or reason I can see for him ever engaging in drinking or voluntarily giving up control.....like, the appeal specifically is a kind of self-punishment, and thus makes for an ideal weapon of choice at least once.....BUT again, the caveat there is like I said, I view Jason as someone who cycles through periods of self-destruction, but then he like...moves past it (or at least on a surface level, like, he FEELS like he has, though the initial problem often stil remains under the surface). But the point is, I think he regrets these instances of self-destruction soon after they happen....and I also think he’s someone who believes very strongly in not making the same mistakes twice.

Like, he knows not to take things for granted better than anyone. Shit doesn’t go according to plan, my personal headcanon for him is his ideal followup is the immediate realization well, that didn’t work, time for something completely different....and then he does something completely different in the hopes of getting closer to his actual desired result. So I could see him doing something like getting black out drunk, etc, as one of these bouts of self-destruction....but the key in my mind, is I could only see him doing that ONCE. Once he’d done it and regretted it, it’d be crystallized in his mind as a Mistake and like, nope, not doing that again. Even when having another tendency towards self-destruction at a later date....I think he’d do it in a different way.

Also, I’ve never bought Jason as a smoker, like, I could see him faking it for The Mood or whatever, lol, but like.......this is a kid who grew up malnourished and thus had to take on criminals as a very under-sized Robin. He comes back after the Pit like, over six feet tall and well-oiled muscle that makes it SO much easier to kick ass as a vigilante? Why the FUCK would he ever screw that up by messing with his lungs or anything else, you know? If anything, I see Jason as being like, as much a ‘my body is my temple’ kind of guy as Dick is, just for different reasons.

I’ve always said I see Dick and Jason having a lot more in common than they’re usually credited with, and all of this is a huge part of why. They both just have HUGE issues with control in regards to themselves and their lives, and just being able to HAVE it and to take advantage of it, do what THEY want to do rather than constantly being moved about by the whims of others and having to always adjust or adapt to whatever everyone else was doing or the box they were being forced in by situations, etc. They’ve BEEN without control, self-autonomy, in ways and to degrees most people couldn’t imagine, so, like....its IMO more likely to be that much more precious and valuable to them than it is even to most people? Like, these are two men who I don’t see ever giving it up without a fight, and thus, they’re just like.....I’m gonna hard pass on the alcohol, etc.

And its got nothing to do with judgment on their part, I don’t think, like, other than the fact that they can’t personally relate to seeing the appeal. Its just the end result of lowered inhibitions/loss of self control or autonomy that they’re like...yeah, that’s what we’re not on board with, thanks but no thanks. Not for us.

I don’t have as strong of headcanons about the other kids just because they’re either too young or it just doesn’t come up as much, such as with Cass (though you can probably guess my headcanon for Cass there given that I talk about the similarities ALL three of the eldest Wayne kids share in a lot of ways, lol) but honestly I think it’d be more of the same with all of them, even if not always for quite the same reasons or quite as strong of reasons. Like, they’ve all been raised with too much reason to value self-control and too little cause to see lowered inhibitions as appealing, so the Batfam as a whole I personally headcanon as being nah, we get our highs from adrenaline and being weird as fuck, thanks though.

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Can we just talk about all the age reversal aus where Robin is still a thing before Dick comes around??? It makes no sense!!!! Ik you’ve done a post on the importance of Robin before and it just really ticks me off!!! Like, if Damian is the oldest, why would he go by a bird name when he works with Batman? It would make more sense to be like ‘Shadow’ or ‘Shriken’ or just plain ‘Batkid’ but all these authors use the name Robin and then show Jason being resentful when Dick takes it over. Just wtf?

Tbh, I don’t have a ton to say on that particular subject other than I agree with you on it not making a lot of sense, because I just don’t really tend to read age reversal AUs anymore. They’re just not a premise that draws me in, y’know? I have issues with the way Dick’s status as the oldest brother tends to lead to him and his own problems being taken for granted at times, but the solution to that which I’m looking for is to have that addressed, not to have Dick just not be the oldest sibling anymore. I like Dick the way he is….I’m as fond of AUs as the next person, but ones that kinda alter the core of him just aren’t for me.

Like….how to put this…..from my perspective, I’ve noticed that outside of fics by authors who consider themselves Dick stans first and foremost out of all the characters, there’s three distinct tropes in the vast majority of fics where Dick plays a major role, and is regarded sympathetically rather than being in the way:

1) Fics about Tarantula, 2) Fics where Dick is a Talon and 3) Age Reversal AUs.

And the one common element in these tropes is they’re most commonly utilized while depicting Dick as particularly vulnerable, to the extent that he’s like….dependent on the other characters.

In the vast majority of Tarantula fics - majority, not all, there are exceptions of course - but the common thread is Dick tends to have very little agency in even the aftermath of what happened with Tarantula. He’s usually not granted the right of disclosure….people find out despite his wants there, and often despite his attempts to keep it from them (huge pet peeve just btw…..people, disclosure is a HUGELY big deal to survivors, because its one of THE single most powerful ways in which survivors take back control over their lives….they might not have control over what happened, but they can control who they tell about it and when. The tendency to write fics about survivors but displaying no real thought towards the fact that many survivors NEED agency over who they disclose to and when, is part of why I tend to rant about people kinda….commercializing this particular trauma even while saying they do so in the name of spreading awareness or healing or stuff like that….because they’re not actually like….thinking about things from the viewpoint of the survivor. In many instances, stealing a survivor’s right to disclose at the time and place of their choosing can be massively retraumatizing in its own way. And again, please don’t talk to me about how I’m generalizing or insisting there’s only one right way to write survivors…I know I’m generalizing, I’m talking about TRENDS, not specific fics, and I’m not saying its NEVER okay to write things this way, I’m simply commenting on how often things ONLY seem to be written this way).

But anyway, point is, a common theme throughout these fics is that despite Dick being central to them, its a story ABOUT him and what happened to him, rather than actually being HIS story. He himself has very little role in many of these stories, they’re more about what the others do to avenge him, or to take care of him, etc…..which is great in principle….I just can’t help but note the emphasis on him being dependent on others throughout it.

Which brings us to number two, fics where Dick is a Talon…..I’ve talked before how I just kinda can’t, and back out of fics where Dick remains a Talon or altered by the Talon process, because I think most people do that as kind of a metaphor for a disability and finding ways to live with a disability, but to me it will always read as body horror, because this isn’t so much Dick being disabled as it is him being altered head to toe in very deliberate ways by his abusers with the intention of making him something other than he is, and something he never ever chooses or wants to be. And the fact that there’s no need to write stories with disability metaphors, you can just write a character having a disability, so it always kinda feels unnecessary to me, personally, and an inherent tragedy because this was DONE to Dick, and thus is a permanent reminder of his abuse at the hands of his abusers….which is not inherently the same thing as adjusting to life with a disability, though there can be overlap, obviously.

But the other tendency of the Talon Dick trope is how often this results in him being mentally altered. And not just in a brainwashed kind of way, as many of these fics have him raised as a Talon since his parents died and then rescued by the Batfam….but his entire mentality, personality and way of processing things and even speaking is altered….and the thing that bugs me about this is…..why? Why is this choice so prevalent in these fics, when there’s literally nothing innate about the Talons in canon that says the Talon process mentally changes their minds and personalities in this kind of way? Most of the Talons we see don’t speak….because they’re intended to be seen as mindless minions, a force of nature rather than people….its meant to add to their mystique, their threat, their legend….largely on orders of the Court, who thrives on those kind of things. But who is the Talon we see the most of in canon, the Talon that we’re specifically told time and time again the Court means Dick to replace, be the heir of? William Cobb.

And William is nothing like the way Dick is depicted in most Talon fics. He’s the same as he was before he was changed, just with the changes to his biology now. Mentally and personality-wise, he’s still the same as he was before it. And even in the recent Nightwing comic where Ric was finally brainwashed into being the Talon the Court has been manipulating him towards becoming throughout this storyline…..obviously, the Talon process hadn’t occurred yet, but even with the brainwashing, Ric mentally was still himself in the sense that he could process things, make decisions, speak all just the same as he did before he put on the brainwashing goggles….he didn’t speak most of the time because again, Talons are meant by the Court to be mostly silent enigmas….but when pressed, he was absolutely still capable of it, the same as before.

So again, the question is….why this particular choice, with this trope? To have Dick so radically altered not just in body, and with the emphasis rarely even placed on his bodily changes, as usually they come up with some tech disguise for him or use makeup to make him appear the same as he usually does, at which point his changes aren’t mentioned all that much other than to display his healing factor. No, the emphasis by and large is to how different he is mentally….even though there’s literally nothing about the Talon the Court wants him to be in canon, which dictates that he has to be in any way mentally altered by the process of becoming one. It isn’t his mental faculties the Court has a problem with, its his morals. No other brainwashing or mental conditioning method in comics or fics places such a strong emphasis on limiting the person’s mental capabilities rather than just altering their morality and way of thinking…so why is it different here, with Dick’s stories? And the only common result I can ever find is that it diminishes Dick’s autonomy and makes him vulnerable in a specific way where he’s dependent on the others to a huge degree, due to being less socially capable or even just mentally capable on his own.

And then finally we have the reverse ages AUs, in which Dick is still himself as he was as a young Robin in canon…..just the baby of the family, doted on and protected by his family, who are all fiercely defensive of him and in many of these stories, drop everything to rush to his aid when he’s in danger and rescue him. Which again, is perfectly fine in theory, but the thing this raises for me is…..how distinct this is from Dick’s actual time as Robin, where the actual emphasis was on how capable he was despite his young age, how autonomous and independent and competent even when face to face with villains twice his size and three times his age.

Situations like with Two-Face were the exception in his stories, not the norm…..much like the later Robins, like Jason before his death, Tim for over a decade in comics, Damian to this day….all roughly the same age Dick is in these reverse Robin AUs…..but when has Damian ever been depicted as that vulnerable and in need of his siblings’ protection, in canon? When was Tim? And in Dick’s own time as Robin when he was actually that age in canon…..how would he have ever lasted as Robin without all these older siblings in canon, let alone managed to become the inspiration for entire generations of other child heroes….if he weren’t as capable of protecting himself as he was…in actual canon?

Again, the focus of the premise, like with the other two tropes, often seems geared towards emphasizing a vulnerability that is kinda just…chosen for Dick, rather than being an inevitability of that trope, and results in him being particularly dependent on the rest of his family.

Understand, I’m not saying this to say oh these fics are all bad and shouldn’t exist, lol, I’m just expressing the common element through all of them that’s why they don’t appeal to me in particular - because as I’ve always emphasized in pretty much all my posts, one of the greatest appeals to me about Dick Grayson, and one of the things I love about him most, is his fierce independence, his commitment to being his own person and standing on his own two feet. And its why I have an issue with the common thread of infantilization that runs through a lot of the fanon tropes that treat him as though he’s incapable of feeding himself, clothing himself, or even cleaning up after himself or conducting himself in public without the help of others.

Because my issue isn’t that these things exist, its that I’m always going to want to know WHY.

Why, when Dick’s core characterization has always revolved around his insistence on his own personal agency and autonomy…..do so many stories revolve around…..denying him this, or stripping it away?

Why is it that he’s most appealing to many people when he’s not just dependent on his family, but forced to be dependent by the very premise of a story, with no choice or alternative in the matter?

What makes that such a common trend, and with his character in specific, as opposed to Jason, Tim, Damian, etc….none of whom display similar trends in their stories or most prevalent tropes?

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Tbh, I think its pretty pointless to pit the Batkids against each other in terms of asking who’s smarter, who’s the best detective, etc....because to me, the point of the Batclan in general has always been like....they’re ALL freaking Mary Sues, meant to be like ‘peak human potential’ and capable of anything the plot demands....while still being utter human disasters fshklafhaklsfh.

But like, you separate out any single Batfamily member and put them on a team.....and its canon that they can do basically anything any of the others can do. Tim’s ‘known’ for being the tech guy, but that doesn’t mean Jason and Dick and Damian aren’t expert hackers in their own right when they’re on their own or off with their other teams....just like its not like Dick has a monopoly on acrobatics or banter even if they’re more ‘his’ signature, and Dick can shoot a gun with great precision and Damian’s an expert with all kinds of weapons even though weapons mastery is more Jason’s signature.

On their own, or with their own teams, any and ALL of the Batkids are just about the equivalent of Bruce skill wise and even surpassing him in some specific respects, or else pretty damn close and just needing a little more age and experience (like Damian). That’s kinda....the entire family’s niche in the DC universe. And its why all of them are at least somewhat viable as potential successors when Bruce isn’t around or they’re talking about the possibility he might not be.....its never been about skill, because all of them are more than capable enough to succeed him....its always been more about family dynamics and internal struggles and differences in methodology and ideology. But there’s no question that Dick was extremely competent as Batman, in all aspects of the job, including the detective work (psst Dick is a DAMN good detective guys, he literally has been doing this for twenty years, even Babs has said in the past that like...she’s the better hacker but Dick is the better detective, and that’s why they partner well, they complement each other’s skillsets - as Dick sat on her couch in the other room and watched America’s Most Wanted on TV and called in tips as he solved like three in one morning just from the couch). And similarly, Jason, Tim...the question has NEVER been CAN they do the job.

Put any Batkid is isolation or off on their own, and they excel. Its just what they do. Its their entire premise.

Its only when you put them TOGETHER in a group, that their specialties take more focus. Because when you’ve got all of them working the same case, yeah the brothers may all be expert hackers in their own right, but Tim is a level above that, so even though any of them could get the job done, why NOT put Tim on tech, if he’s there? And if Jason’s around, why have any of the others do any necessary weapons work, when that’s like...his thing, its something he does better than anybody else. Just like Dick’s likely to take point on infiltration or undercover work, given his skill with people and performing, and so on and so on.

But while I UNDERSTAND the desire to be like ‘my fave is smarter than these others/better here/better there’ its like.....I think the Batfamily is one of those places where that just doesn’t work at all, period, because of their basic premise of hyper-competency. Showcasing each one’s unique specialty is effective and even important when you’re using them all as a unit, or partnering them up....but there’s no one Batkid who’s better at EVERYTHING than every other one, because....that’s the point. Just like there’s no one Batkid who CAN’T do whatever like....is needed or expected of the token Batclan member when off on their own or with their own team, because again....that’s the point.

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