#the school of athens

[plankos]

The School of Susthens

#made another one guys #art #fanart #among us #amogus #amonus #among us fanart #shitpost #the school of athens #renaissance

[tmblrfuckingsucksass]

The School of Athens - preparatory cartoon (drawing sketch) - 1509

Artist: Raffaello Sanzio (Raphael)

Medium: fresco and charcoal

Dimensions: 9' x 26'

Location: Pinacoteca Ambrosiana, Milan, Italy

This drawing is certainly one of the most precious artworks in the collection and in the city of Milan. It is the largest renaissance cartoon that has survived to this day, and was made by Raphael as a preparatory work for the Stanza della Segnatura in the Vatican, which was commissioned by Pope Julius II. It entered Federico Borromeo’s collection in 1626, when he purchased it from the widow of Fabio Borromeo Visconti for the massive sum of six hundred imperial lire, even though it had actually been on loan to the Ambrosiana since 1610. Although it is known as The School of Athens, the more exact title is Philosophy, as suggested by the allegory of the same subject painted on the vault above the fresco in the Stanza della Segnatura, as part of a very complex iconographic project. At the center we see the two greatest philosophers, Plato (painted with the likeness of Leonardo da Vinci, with his finger pointing upwards and identifiable by the Timaeus he is holding, one of his works that had enormous influence on later philosophy) and Aristotle, who is identified by his Book of Ethics.

#raffaello sanzio #raphael #renaissance art #italian renaissance #high renaissance #fresco #charcoal drawing #the school of athens #art history #preliminary sketch #plato #aristotle #pythagoras #euclid #art and science #humanties #philosophy #western civilization

[noctemlibrary]

Aristotle and Plato, detail of The School of Athens,

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#from the great naturalists #aristotle #plato #the school of athens #painting #detail

[homerstroystory]

Raphael, The School of Athens (1509-1511)

Musei Vaticani (Vatican City)

#isaac.jpg #art #renaissance #raphael #the school of athens #vatican museums #musei vaticani #vatican city

[birdstooth]

It just occurred to me that some old school paintings and sculptures are literally fanart, even though we don’t think of them that way…

Da Vinci’s Jesus fanart

Raphael’s Greek philosopher fanart

Alexandros of Antioch’s Aphrodite fanart

And let’s not forget the most prolific fanartist of all, Mr. Andy Warhol with his Monroe/Elvis/Campbell soup fanart

Absolutely wild

#venus de milo #Warhol #the last supper #raphael #da vinci #The school of Athens #alexandros of Antioch #fanart #lol

[oatmilfcoffee]

— the school of athens, raphael, the vatican. vatican city, march ‘23

#mp #the school of athens #raphael #vatican #vatican city #photo #photography #fujifilm #fujifilmxseries #fujixseries #fujifilm xt30 #rome #italy #rome italy

[quixoticanarchy]

so @nereb-and-dungalef and i were trying to make the geomorphology of Mordor make sense, as one does - or rather, as one fails to do, since orogenic processes do not tend to favor Rectangular Box of Mountains. but even if you chalk Mordor's shape up to Ainur activity, you'd think that Sauron would have taken pains to make his mountains form a better box, if a box was what he wanted. and yet it's not a perfect quadrilateral. it hasn't even got proper right angles.

therefore, our solution: Sauron did have a perfect set of geometrically balanced mountain-walls surrounding a volcanic hotspot - once. however... geological processes can only be slowed so much by one guy. the earth still changes. the crust still deforms. mountains are uplifted and erosion carves them down. hotspots move. you can't freeze geology any more than you can embalm the world at large. you can't prevent change. (not a lesson Sauron is eager to learn.) so Mordor is neither the product of natural processes nor intentional design - it's the interface of conflict between both.

#i just think it's crunchy if mordor's very physicality is a representation of what sauron wants to make the world into vs the world refusing #you have to picture us walking around like the school of athens guys except in 105 degrees #also I Know the pace of geological change is off here. i know mordor has debated origins anyway. but humor me. shit gets weird w ainur #sauron #lotr #mordor #tolkien #arda geomorphology #skravler

[blueiskewl]

Herculaneum Scrolls Reveal Plato's Burial Place

Researchers used AI to decipher an ancient papyrus that includes details about where Greek philosopher is buried.

The decipherment of an ancient scroll has revealed where the Greek philosopher Plato is buried, Italian researchers suggest.

Graziano Ranocchia, a philosopher at the University of Pisa, and colleagues used artificial intelligence (AI) to decipher text preserved on charred pieces of papyrus recovered in Herculaneum, an ancient Roman town located near Pompeii, according to a translated statement from Italy's National Research Council.

Like Pompeii, Herculaneum was destroyed in A.D. 79 when Mount Vesuvius erupted, cloaking the region in ash and pyroclastic flows.

One of the scrolls carbonized by the eruption includes the writings of Philodemus of Gadara (lived circa 110 to 30 B.C.), an Epicurean philosopher who studied in Athens and later lived in Italy. This text, known as the "History of the Academy," details the academy that Plato founded in the fourth century B.C. and gives details about Plato's life, including his burial place.

Historians already knew that Plato, the famous student of Socrates who wrote down his teacher's philosophies as well as his own, was buried at the Academy, which the Roman general Sulla destroyed in 86 B.C. But researchers weren't sure exactly where on the school's grounds that Plato, who died in Athens in 348 or 347 B.C., had been laid to rest.

However, with advances in technology, researchers were able to employ a variety of cutting-edge techniques including infrared and ultraviolet optical imaging, thermal imaging and tomography to read the ancient papyrus, which is now part of the collection at the National Library of Naples.

So far, researchers have identified 1,000 words, or roughly 30% of the text written by Philodemus.

"Among the most important news, we read that Plato was buried in the garden reserved for him (a private area intended for the Platonic school) of the Academy in Athens, near the so-called Museion or sacellum sacred to the Muses," researchers wrote in the statement. "Until now it was only known that he was buried generically in the Academy."

The text also detailed how Plato was "sold into slavery" sometime between 404 and 399 B.C. (It was previously thought that this occurred in 387 B.C.)

Another part of the translated text describes a dialogue between characters, in which Plato shows disdain for the musical and rhythmic abilities of a barbarian musician from Thrace, according to the statement.

This isn't the first time that researchers have used AI to read ancient scrolls that survived Mount Vesuvius's eruption. Earlier this year, researchers deciphered a different scroll that was charred during the volcanic eruption at a nearby villa that once belonged to Julius Caesar's father-in-law.

By Jennifer Nalewicki.

#Plato #Herculaneum Scrolls Reveal Plato's Burial Place #Herculaneum #Pompeii #Philodemus of Gadara #History of the Academy #The Academy #Plato's Academy #the Platonic Academy #the Academic School #athens greece #mount vesuvius #roman dictator sulla #ancient texts #ancient artifacts #archeology #archeolgst #history #history news #ancient history #ancient culture #ancient greece #greek history #roman history #roman empire

[gallusrostromegalus]

AEIWAM Update: Happy Pride, these old men are experiencing 12th Dimensional Shrimp Genders!

#AEIWAM #an elephant is warm and mushy #Zaraki and Yamamoto are ruining a moon-viewing party by being Plato and Aristotle from School of Athens #in the middle of Shunsui's preschool shapes party #Gender is but the character creation options menu and the gods were wrong to lock the slider bars

[uwmspeccoll]

The Minotaur in the Labyrinth

The Minotaur in the Labyrinth stands as one of the ancient stories that has survived the test of time and continuously appears in mainstream entertainment. Most understand that this concept began with the story of Theseus of ancient Athens and how he navigated the labyrinth and slayed the beast within, but many don’t know the inspiration of this idea.

Nearly a millennia before Classical Greece rose to the height of its power (500-350 BCE) the two leading cultures of the Aegean Sea were the Mycenaeans on the mainland and the Minoans on modern day Crete, and it is on this island that we find the labyrinthian structures of Bronze age Greece.

The Bronze Age Palace at Knossos: Plan and Sections by British archaeologist Sinclair Hood and Canadian archaeologist William E, Taylor, Jr., was published as Supplementary Volume No. 13 of The British School at Athens in 1981. It shows the archaeological remains of one of the many Minoan Palaces. Though mostly destroyed and crumbling, we can still see the complex layout of halls and rooms that twist, turn, and abruptly end. Beginning with the excavations of Sir Arthur Evans in 1900, scores of theories have been raised about the purpose of such confounding architecture, from a form of defense to a means of controlling foreign visits.  

Besides the confusing architecture, though no depictions of minotaurs were found, Minoan Palaces such as the one at Knossos did contained several pieces of art that depicted bulls. Upon further inspection, the symbol of the Bull was quite prominent throughout the ancient culture from sports, such as bull leaping, to religious sacrifice.

When looking to those who lived in the past, one should remember that we are not the only ones who inquired about archaeological remains. These ruins would’ve been seen by the Classical Greeks, but by that time their imaginations about the great Palaces and Bull iconography of the Minoan civilization was transformed into the myth of the Minotaur in the Labyrinth.

View more posts on Ancient Greece.

-- LauraJean, Special Collections Undergraduate Classics Intern

#Ancient Greece #Minotaur #labyrinth #Minoans #Knossos #The Bronze Age Palace at Knossos #bronze age #Palace at Knossos #archaeology #Sinclair Hood #William E Taylor Jr. #British School at Athens #greek mythology #Crete #LauraJean

[tragediambulante]

The school of Athens, Raffaello Sanzio, 1509-11

#art history #art #italian art #aesthethic #16th century #ancient greece #athens #school of athens #raffaello sanzio #raphael #philosophy #vatican museums #musei vaticani #frescoes #plato #aristotle

[putting-pomni-in-places]

please put the pomni in the school of athens :3

#pomni #tadc pomni #the amazing digital circus #tadc #pomni in a place #request #school of athens #art

[kyouka-supremacy]

part 1- alternatively Atsushi made Akutagawa do that promise because he wanted to be proved right. Because he didn't believe Akutagawa was capable of such humanity and had his firm imaginary version of Akutagawa (you've made many posts about that already) and would get offended whenever Akutagawa would go off-script, even for stuff like grocery shopping or stuff like being chatty. And Akutagawa was so perceptive and wise recently Atsushi wanted to prove himself that he was actually right

about Akutagawa and be comforted in his worldview. He doesn't have to think critically about Akutagawa or go outside of his black and white worldview if his doubts about Akutagawa being all that bad were gone, so he wanted to be like "I was right all along actually he's the actual worst", cue why he was so bewildered to witness Akutagawa actually keep his promise, be there for him, and sacrifice himself for him, and why he was so utterly numb in the aftermath and couldn't proccess it. Which is why all of us have trouble pinpointing when Atsushi fell in love, it seems weird that he was "firmly not in love" prior to that and only fell after 88, because stuff prior seems to suggest otherwise (be it 84-87 or stuff waaay prior). there was all that build-up in SSKK, all that slowburn that didn't get anywhere. Be it cannibalism, all the banter, or all their meaningful interactions, nothing enough to fall in love at the time but too much to be dismissed so there was a "Crossroad" of sorts ? But also Atsushi was pretty uncomfortable with the sort of mental intimacy he was starting to get with Aku and hard in denial, and wanted to go back to his comfort zone, the "akutagawa is evil and not a person capable of feelings" so he made Akutagawa agree to that promise. And if Aku broke it where he could see Atsushi would be fully justified to go all out against him. I doubt even readers really expected Aku to keep that promise until the end AND YET, Akutagawa prove us wrong, he prove us wrong and he prove Atsushi wrong and he assert his humanity and character so beautifully I was breath-taken, if we go by a SSKK-shipper premise, that's my favorite premise because it's way better that way in my opinion, Atsushi placing his trust in someone dubious is not anything new in this manga (he wholly trust DAZAI of all people), he's someone who likes to be in his comfort zone and doesn't like to think too hard about morality so him digging his heels in and wanting to go "gotcha ! I knew you were the actual worst !" (even after seeing Aku keeps his promise he couldn't trust him vs Fukuchi) and getting his world-view utterly upended and thinking really hard in the aftermath and making a serious attempt to make amends (as seen in round 1 of SSKK vs Fukuchi and  round 2, or between 88 and 107), and adjust his worldview due to Akutagawa more than we see him do in other instances. But we also get the Atsushi trusting Akutagawa despite all odds, in ch107 and after, and believing in his character and his humanity. Even after the big bad Akutagawa has become a soulless vampire helping the end of the world of all things.  And it's a development I like

I think this is a plausible and coherent interpretation of the canon material! I don’t agree with it – and I’m going to elaborate on why in a second -, but I think the elements you brought in support of your take are fully sensate and make a perfectly valid interpretation of canon and of Atsushi’s character.

It’s just, to me, that’s a bit too cruel for Atsushi to do. Atsushi has already been horrible to Akutagawa (that’s why Dazai-san abandoned you and disappeared and so on), but it was also moments of great stress where he kinda snapped. Atsushi does hate Akutagawa – at least for as far as chapter 51 goes, I’d say -, but to be fully intentionally hurtful, to basically plan so that he could humiliate Akutagawa? I don’t think he’d go that far. If anything because Atsushi’s hatred for Akutagawa more frequently than not translates in “I don’t want anything to do with this dude” rather than “I want to actively take part in offending him”.

There’s another point I already fleetingly mentioned in my previous reply, but that I think is relevant: Atsushi would never wish for Akutagawa to not keep his promise for the simple fact that Atsushi does not want people to die. Atsushi is greatly affected by people dying, and has repeatedly shown reacting strongly against the idea¹; Atsushi may be selfish, and he’s not an hero, but he does share that little human decency that makes him sad when people die. Killing people mercilessly, without regret or second thought is exactly what he accuses Akutagawa of doing (“a murderer who just wants to bandy his power around”, chapter 35). I think here we’re tracing a thin line between “Atsushi hates Akutagawa because he kills people” and “Atsushi wants Akutagawa to kill people so that he has a reason to hate him”, but the first affirmation must be the one to be preferred when analizing what went on in Atsushi’s mind when he made Akutagawa promise, because Atsushi's wish for people not to die comes before hating Akutagawa both chronologically (he hates Akutagawa just because he’s wanted people not to die in the first place) and thematically (people not dying has the priority over hating Akutagawa and thus wanting to see him fail).

In the end, I fear that saying Atsushi wants to test Akutagawa specifically in order to confirm the image of ruthless man he has of him may end up being a logical fallacy. In order to prove Akutagawa is bad Atsushi should acknowledge that he holds preconceptions towards Akutagawa, admit that he holds prejudices he wants to prove. But Atsushi is not aware of the prejudices he holds for Akutagawa, he just instinctively and unconsciously assumes he’s bad. But if he’s not aware of such, than he has nothing to make Akutagawa prove, because Akutagawa just is bad. I hope this makes sense. If Atsushi’s words to Akutagawa represented a test, I can’t see it as anything but a genuine test of Atsushi sincerely wondering whether Akutagawa can be up to the challenge of keeping the promise, and hoping that he would- hoping, even if for just one soon to be forgotten second, in the good that’s in Akutagawa.

I don’t know if I’m landing in shipping territory now, it’s hard to tell because sskk’s bond in canon is already enough deep and complex without me having to do anything. But like… I do want to belive Atsushi was slowing shifting in his perception of Akutagawa after what they went through together in the cannibalism arc. I know I’ve made several posts on how the image of Akutagawa Atsushi has in his mind is strikingly different from the real Akutagawa, and how it’s very hard for him to get over the prejudices he holds… But he did change his mind in the end. Atsushi did reach his hand towards Akutagawa after Akutagawa sacrificed himself for him. And it may have all happened in the fight against Fukuchi (that was indeed a moment of primary importance for Akutagawa’s personal redemption to Atsushi’s eyes), but isn’t it also sensate to believe some seeds of growth had been planted beforehand? I think it’s fair to believe it was more gradual than what it may seem at first look: Atsushi’s stubborn insisting that Akutagawa is heartless, then, may actually be his way to suppress his subconscious telling him that maybe Akutagawa doea have an heart after all. And growth doesn’t happen linearly, one can have their own relapses, so I think it’s still coherent (and human) of Atsushi to be disbelieving of Akutagawa keeping his promise even after he himself made him do it.

Now, I LOVE the idea of Atsushi willingly pulling out (taking refuge in, even) the “Akutagawa is an horrible person” argument in response to them having gotten closer, I especially /love/ the idea of Atsushi getting uncomfortable with emotional vulnerability². It’s brilliant. I’m such a fan of characters having sudden relapses as soon as they realize something in the relationship they’re in has changed. I can see Atsushi starting being more hostile, because hostility is familiar, hostility is something he knows, hostility is something he can work with; he doesn’t know what it feels like to care for Akutagawa, he doesn’t want to care, he’s confused and scared, and that’s why he wants to go back to the interactions he’s used to (which is nothing but an illusion, because nothing can ever stay the same, and everything changes). I’d totally read a fic on that.

Btw I’m once again carrying forward: the shipping scenario of Atsushi ending up subconsciously (but never intentionally) wishing for Akutagawa to break his promise so that he doesn’t have to fight him and kill him. Because Atsushi is a selfish person at his core, and honestly he would have people die rather than lose the person he loves. I’d love to read a fic that tackles this aspect.

Thank you again for your elaboration, this sure gave me a lot to think about!!!

¹ I feel like it’s particulay impactful how mad he was at Kyouka in chapter 27, whereas he’s never shown being anything but kind and compassionate with her. Additionally, the “We won’t kill! That’s not what the Detective Agency does.” From Dead Apple (immediately followed by threatening Akutagawa’s life, but like, I guess to Atsushi Akutagawa is just special)

² That’s not something I ever considered before, but I feel like it fits Atsushi’s character a lot. To make a similar comparison, it’s like sskk and physical touch: the most instinctive take is often to label Akutagawa, the serious, grumpy, scarred one as reluctant to touch, and the sunny Atsushi as the touch starved one. But I find the reverse take to be a more nuanced interpretation: Akutagawa grew up in the slums with a family of ragged orphans, in extremely poor an unhigenic circumstances; he was probably used to body proximity, as well as sleeping near other people. Atsushi grew up all alone, and was even often put in isolate cells. He is the one who’s always ever known hurtful touch, whereas it’s easier to believe Akutagawa, while sure knowing it well too, might have rarely experienced what it’s like to feel a touch that isn’t destined to harm. The same could have happened with emotional vulnerability: Akutagawa has a sister, maybe he *is* more willing to it (which, don’t get me wrong, is still super little. It’s just that Atsushi is a lost case and is easily topped). Atsushi grew up completely alone (the orphanage environment wasn’t hostile just on the end of the directors, but on the one of his fellow orphans too) and taught to constantly suppress his own emotions together with his inner self.

#Btw The School of Athens by Raphael. That’s you and me discussing sskk Anon #Then again I feel weird saying Akutagawa is more kin to emotional vulnerability than Atsushi. #Yeah‚ that can’t be right. They’re both equally terrible. #Funny enough thinking back to the Atsushi Fitzgerald match in chapter 34‚ Atsushi seems inclined to think people won’t keep their promises #atsushi nakajima #ryūnosuke akutagawa #sskk #shin soukoku #bsd #bungou stray dogs #bsd analysis #people asks me stuff

[romanceyourdemons]

still laughing at the terf who got mad at me saying timothee chalamet could do a good job playing marie antoinette, since according to them that would be “erasing” marie antoinette, who is one of the five female historically significant figures as opposed to the “10000000″ male ones. you mean to tell me there’s five (5) important women in all of history?? and marie antoinette is one of them??? who are the other four supposed to be??

#already discussed this school of athens-style with my beloved mutual #but like. off the top of my head i can name five historically significant women from 130-90 BCE in china alone #can't imagine how boring the world of history is to someone with such a frail and uncurious understanding of it #ryddles

[blacksailsgf]

#i need Answers. you are encouraged to go batshit in the notes idc if you hit each other with sticks or recreate school of athens by raphael #black sails #treasure island

[technovillain]

tiny kitty and franke from an aggie :]

#franke athens #kitty bubai #psychonauts #franke would be the type to always say #yeah i have a girlfriend but she goes to a different school! #no one would believe her