#tucute safe

[lgbtqtext]

#pronouns don't equal gender #lgbtqtext #lgbtq text #animated text #word art #pronouns #orange #trans #transgender #nonbinary #lgbtq #lgbtq+ #lgbtqia #queer #trans pride #transgender pride #nonbinary pride #lgbtq pride #lgbtq+ pride #queer pride #trans positivty #transgender positivity #nonbinary positivity #queer positivity #tucute #tucute safe

[xqueerneurosisx]

Full offense, and sorry not sorry, but if a person tells you that they have an experience, and then they give you a name for their experience uh that’s all you fucking need*. Just call it what they named it.

You aren’t saving anyone or anything by trying to pick apart and redefine, or outright deny the existence of the name- you think you know something better about, for not your experience to begin with. In fact, that’s called gaslighting. You are gaslighting a random person based on your own ignorance. And yes, it is ignorant, because you didn’t fucking learn a damn thing about an experience- that again isn’t yours, if you didn’t fucking listen to the person who initially described it. Cut that toxic shit out!!

*Yes, I still do mean within safety/good faith reason.

#mogai safe #nondysphoric trans safe #tucute safe #endogenic safe #self dx safe #bi lesbian safe #anti all of these things fuck off

[foxfairy06]

For all you tremendous transgenders

Or I could say transcendent transexuals

Either way have a great day💙💓🤍💓💙

#anti inclus #anti inclusionist #exclusionist #gravity knife gay #battleaxe bi #exclus #longsword lesbian #transmed #transmed safe #esai lgbt #transgender #transgender safe #transsexual #transexual #transsexual safe #trans #trans safe #trench knife trans #tucute safe #tucute

[swordbeliever]

why i left transmedicalism

when i started this blog, i considered myself a pretty strong transmed, and while i’ve not been all that involved in discourse publicly, i had at least one post get a decent amount of notes & still get followers from that post so i figured its about time to clarify this:

i no longer identify as a transmedicalist in any way.

why?

while not an exhaustive list, heres a couple reasons:

my experience of transness is, at this point, barely related to my medical transition and the aspects of it that are are incredibly inaccessible. making these more inaccessible and requiring more hoops to jump through (especially for adults) does nothing to help the community or root out the “fakers.”

so many transmed talking points are repackaged terf rhetoric. i cant feel good agreeing on any trans topic with terfs. lol.

being a more “respectable” queer person does absolutely nothing. those who do not respect the “weird” trans folk will never respect you because you’re licking their boots and trying to be as normal as possible. (see: michael warner, the trouble with normal, 1999)

the main thing i’ve come to realize is that none of this transmed/tucute dichotomy is useful.

all it does is divide the community into two unnuanced camps who both think incredibly poorly of one another and are increasingly unwilling to discuss topics of interest. this is not the way to fight injustice. there are bills being proposed to limit any kind of medical transition for folks as old as 26. trans youth are being targeted constantly. conservative pundits spend the vast majority of their airtime spreading misinformation about trans topics and infighting does absolutely nothing to help this.

what changed?

i got educated. honestly.

i started looking for perspectives that were different from my own, actively. not on tumblr or tiktok or instagram but through longer form media. youtube creators like jessie gender and milo stewart have been huge for me personally.

i also started college & enrolled in queer studies courses, actually adding a minor in LGBT studies. through these classes i have learned so much about our history as a community and what is actually important in activism. i also started reading theory, which while hefty and daunting at first, is more than worth it in the end.

conclusion

so yeah, not a transmed. not a tucute.

i dont give a shit whether you have dysphoria or not, whether you present in a way that doesn’t align with what’s expected of your gender, what name or pronouns you use. i dont even present fully masculine anymore, because clothes and makeup and jewelry dont have gender dude!!! theyre just for funsies!!!

i intend to keep educating myself & reading theory, news, history, and other works by trans creators because thats what matters to me!

#transmed #ex transmed #truscum #transmedicalist #transmed safe #tucute safe #tags for visibility #anyway yeah #this blog is not transmed anymore #im pretty sure people have kinda noticed that anyway but i thought i might as well make an actual post to pin about it finally #i instead am focusing on irl activism and understanding theory and different aspects of intersectionality :) #my posts

[sirenium]

'You need dysphoria to be trans' motherfuckers when they realize the 'trender' they 'called out' for having xenogenders is a dysphoric trans person: erm actually you're still not trans cuz I don't understand you! >:(

#anti truscum #tucute #transtrender #transgender #trans #mogai safe #non dysphoric #queer #lgbtq #lgbt #xenogender #mogai #fuck transmeds

[m3l4nch0ly-h1ll]

Some alloromantics and allosexuals have fluxuating or spiking attraction towards others. Some of them don't experience attraction until they're close with someone. Some experience attraction to someone they aren't close with, etc.

Some cis people are gender non-conforming or have multiple expressions (masculine, feminine.) Some cis girls like to wear boy's clothes. Some cis boys like to wear girl's clothes. Some cis people don't feel strongly about their bodies- especially when they're autistic.

Stop making things so complex and stop being inclusive of allo cishets. New terms are made to just include them in a community they don't fit the correct criteria for. Stop influencing them and tricking them into thinking they're part of the community just for being diverse.

I understand people like terms to better describe themselves, but plenty of the aromantic and asexual spectrum terms describe allo's too. Aromantic and asexual are strict terms defined as people who don't experience any romantic/sexual attraction at all.

#lgbtq #pro transmed #transmedicalism #truscum #gender critical #exclus #gnc #tucute #aromantic #asexual #aroace #alloromantic #allosexuality #queer #criticism #allo cishet #controversy #transmed safe

[gibbearish]

ik i talk abt high control groups kinda often but i do encourage anyone involved in discourse in any capacity to watch folding ideas' "this is financial advice" video, because a lot of what he says about the gamestop apes being a self-organizing high control group imo also explains the more toxic discourse tendencies, and i feel like most discussion around high-control groups on here focuses on the tradtional kind that has one or a few distinct leaders which makes it harder to draw parallels between the signs. so i think its important to point out that these kinds of groups can still create that same energy as a unit even if there isn't one specific person calling the shots

#origibberish #namely the signs ive noticed most over the years are obviously internal jargon‚ thats kind of a given when working with microlabels #but see also transmed/truscum/trender/tucute/acey/theyfab/transandrophobia truther/etc etc etc #ideas being boiled down to short gotchas that just get ping ponged back and forth #see The Entirely Of Any Ace Discourse Argument for that but again see 'theyre just trans mras' #and the tendancy for members to turn on anyone who steps out of line even a little #omg i cqnt believe i forgot pro/anti discourse too theyre really bad about all of these on both sides #oh or another example would be steven universe discourse #like 'it endorses letting fascists off the hook' would just get thrown around as if it was undisputed fact despite there being MILES #of shit going on in the background to get to that #anyways. yeah 👍 keeping this in mind has already made a huge difference in how i engage in online discussions #and has also been a good rule of thumb for when to Stop engaging with someone #where if theyre displaying these signs thank you i do not want to be part of this #and like yes that goes for people youre arguing with but it obviously /ESPECIALLY/ goes for people you like #if you have a friend who you feel like you cant say anything that disagrees with them or theyll freak out at you. you dont have to keep #being friends with them. if being around someone makes you uncomfortable and you constantly find yourself making excuses for why #they treat you the way they do then thats a bad sign #and like with that i really hope ive managed to yknow. create a nice space here where ppl feel safe bringing stuff up? #idk

[chaos-in-one]

"What's your gender"

Fox

"No your actual gender"

Fox.

"You can't be-"

Shhhhhhh

Fox

#foxgender fox lady >:3 #I have other genders tho #but foxgender hitting hard rn #foxgender #fox therian #mogai #pro mogai #mogai safe #pro xenogender #xenogenders #xenic #anti exclusion #anti exclusionist #tucute #anti transmed

[economically-not-a-communist]

Every once in a while I have to make sure I'm interacting a normal amount with normal women and actual feminism every once in a while, to avoid falling into the transsex-male-to-rampant-misogynist pipeline. Far too easy to go from "radfems and gender abolitionists are literally the scum of the earth" (true statement) to "well maybe all feminism is bullshit" (not at all true statement) to "trans women are somehow lesser than trans men, and all women are evil and out to get Us" (batshit crazy).

#sorta shitpost #but also it's kind of true #a lot of us use misogyny (& transmisogyny) as a cope for the shite experience of having been forcibly raised female #and also to compensate for not being seen as “real” men by so many #i know that wishing I could be stealth and wanting to pass has personally lead to a lot of internalized toxic masculinity #not to say it's a good thing at all no one should be trying to compensate for being “not man enough” by putting down others #transmed #truscum #transmed safe #exclu #i still harbor some lingering resentment against lesbians because of all the tucutes and terfs equating trans men with lesbians #it's super frustrating to have Certain WLWs tell me that “I'm accepted in their community uwu!” #and how “trans men are the only men they like” #me liking women isn't and never has been sapphic #but still gotta remember that even tho there are lesbian & bi women in my life who think like that #doesnt mean that all or even most women think that way #my rants

[drdemonprince]

We sometimes treat avoiding Annoying Queer People as if it’s essential to the LGBTQ community’s self-preservation. We agonize over event descriptions and identity-based admittance policies, wondering how to discourage all the Annoying (and often, it’s implied, fake) Queers from attending without restricting any actual queers. (This always fails, because it turns out that actual queer people are humans, and therefore pretty annoying. And being annoying, by the way, is not a crime.) In order to fortify ourselves against Annoying Queers, we mock all their signifiers and regard them as massive social red flags: straight husbands, bolo ties, sexual inexperience, ukuleles, rainbow pins from Target, misconceptions about what hormones do, and Picrew avatars all somehow get treated with equal venom, no matter where they are coming from and why. The problem is, none of these traits tell us anything about how safe a person actually is to be around. Only observing their patterns of behavior can do that. By demonizing “cringey” and irritating attributes as the signs of a deep character flaw, we ignore the fact they tend to cluster among the closeted, questioning, or newly-out for a reason. When a socially isolated queer person in the suburbs feels that nobody sees them as they are, they might cover themselves in rainbow swag from the local big-box store to an ‘annoying’ degree. When a closeted lesbian teen hasn’t had the chance to form genuine relationships with LGBTQ people, all her reference points might come from shows like Our Flag Means Death and Heartstopper which yeah, might seem fangirlish and irritating to a more seasoned adult. When a profoundly repressed trans divorcee still believes the misinformation about hormones they’ve been fed by the press, they might repeat some downright offensive myths about pelvic floor damage or body hair being disgusting. This too, is incredibly exhausting to help someone process again and again. I don’t think any of us literally believe that the more irritating a person is, the more of a pressing political threat they are. But we behave as if we do. We devote huge amounts of time to complaining about the types of queer people that irritate us, and develop complex taxonomies for describing why they are so annoying and why defeating that annoyingness matters. This person is a tenderqueer, that one is a tucute, and in their style of dress and annoying mannerisms we can tell that they represent all that we hate most about ourselves and how we are seen. It’s easy for us to wind up directing more attention toward the queer people that annoy us than we do to our shared enemies. It’s not a good use of our time. It’s not good for our shared futures. And it’s all rooted in internalized shame.

I wrote about biphobia, acephobia, transphobia, and the troubling respectability politics of hating the "Annoying Queer Person." The full essay is free to read (or have narrated to you!) on my Substack.

[swordbeliever]

i want to make it clear btw i honest to god dont actually care that much about internet discourse. like yeah i definitely agree with certain points more but when i rb those things its mostly in good fun.

idgaf if someone uses weird pronouns and gender labels honestly!! its stupid to me and i dont get it and i’ll rb posts making jokes abt it but if someone irl tells me they use neos im just going to nod and move on, maybe ask if they have alt pronouns bc neos are hard for me to use.

i care far more about actual genuine action and activism and queer theory and i want this blog to primarily be focused on that. identity is complex and confusing and i dont really feel like its in my personal best interest to argue with randos online about whether their definition of an identity is the same as mine. theres more important issues at hand that id like to talk about so yeah.

idk i guess i’d still be considered by definition a transmed but im tired of people villainizing either side of that “debate” as if we’re not all going through the same shit at the hands of legislature and bigots. i shouldnt have to worry about being put in a blocklist because one time i said that trans people have dysphoria and didnt qualify that with every little detail of my viewpoint on what makes someone trans (which, btw, i feel like is a lot more than dysphoria but online discourse thrives on lack of nuance). i also dont think its fair to discount anyones view because they define transness broader than you do! just like. chill? idk.

#mostly posting this because my one post is still making the rounds and looking back none of it even really applies to transmed discourse #bc transmed/tucute discourse is fucking useless my post should have just talked about it as a trans experience #i would also like to use this blog more to discuss the trans experience inre: politics #and activism and queer theory #anyway #yeah that. it #transmed #tucute #trans discourse #transmed safe #tucute safe #transmedicalism #truscum #tags for visibility #my posts

[meltois]

i FUCKING HATE (nearly all) trans "safe spaces" before i became a trensmed/truscum i was in one or two and they gave me BRAINWORMS INSECURITY AND SOMEHOW BUNCH OF HATRED if you are a baby trans or a egg or whatever tucute bullshit people call new trans people dont join any!!!! its for your mental healts sake

(also if you disagree with the mods in these "safe spaces" they will get together and dog pile you and be rude to you in the worst ways possible even if they are trans and you are trans they will misgender you)

(i cant wait till this post gets flooded with hate from tucutes)

(feds, cops, undercover fbi/cia agents dni)

#transgender #literally 1984 #trans #transmed #truscum #warning #im insane

[homophyte]

it is interesting to me that ive seen lately (n yknow this is subjective and likely not any real social force just what ive seen) many queer people simultaneously talking about taking back and embodying unpalatable and ‘unmarketable’ queerness (the recent return to the terms faggot and transsexual come to mind) which i think is pretty evidently shaped by the conservative moment were in of demonizing queer ppl and especially gnc and trans people as predators--it reads as a return to queer isolationism in the face of external hostility, imo--while at the same time ive seen a lot of rallying around the “original” 6 stripe rainbow flag as opposed to any of the purportedly ‘factional’ flags of different queer identities, with the assumption being different identity flags divide us while the rainbow flag encompasses everyone and its kinda fascinating to me bc the rainbow flag is probably the single most marketable and palatable and uncontroversial symbols of queerness which has been seamlessly uptaken by those who wish to sell it back to us as gets pointed out every pride month with all the cringey pride merch.... i dunno you could maybe take that as a point of hypocrisy and claim the queer community is itself in a conservative moment rn where its returning to a sense of history and historical continuity (perhaps even out of that sense of external threat) or even that the queer community has for some time been in a conservative moment given the like, decade of identity discourse and lashing out at any people deemed to not have a sufficiently established history or however we should categorize the bihets/ace discourse/transtrender-tucute discourse/pan discourse/bi lesbians discourse (because lets be frank its essentially all the same discourse just keeping up its momentum by leapfroging from one target to the next) which i think is, like, SOMEWHAT true but not entirely? its more interesting to me, in any case, as an expression of a conflict the queer community is facing given that current state of affairs RE antitransness and that very recent history. like, the simultaneous need to retreat to a safe sense of community which is welcoming to the very things the outer world is demonizing ie mutable gender, complex or contradictory experiences of gender, gender expression which is hostile to the cis binary, but also the ways in which it has to grapple with those discourses which have largely defined the community infighting for again the past decade. its queer people begging the question ‘how can we make the queer community welcoming to the girlfags and genderfucks and tboys who are being threatened when we have spent so much time making the queer community a hostile place for anyone with a non-conventional or not easily (or even just palatably) sortable sense of queer identity’. and the answer it seems to be grappling with at the moment is like, welcoming all that diversity of experience but being absolutely averse to naming it. yes we love all the fuckery with gender and sexuality never be marketable but like, ew, why are you calling yourself [insert microlabel here]. you can be genderweird but you cant call yourself genderweird. you can only exist as queer in the broadest possible way (the all-inclusive gay pride flag!) but if you try to name the specifics or use those identity labels weve been fighting over for years youre doing it wrong (the progress pride flag is now ugly and cringey and ‘too much’). i think theres something also to the way (at least on this site) transmisogynistic discourses have really taken hold as legitimate (though yknow i wont downplay how much a problem transmisogyny has like. always been in queer spaces no matter what) in the name of protecting n defending trans people. like its just regurgitated transmisogyny but its being mobilized supposedly in the service of helping trans people. idk its definitely getting a little late for me to string this together fully coherently but theres a throughline there, in the ways certain ideas are being consolidated and reified as ‘yes were more progressive now!’ when i think theres definitely something to question there in terms of like...are we? are we actually? are we doing better by the people were trying to help or are we setting strict standards and forcing ppl to adhere to them again?

#myposts #this is long and honestly probably Nothing #i dont even really have a way of proving its the same group of people saying both things except fro anecdotally seeing it #and even thats not proof either is a real social force with like power. i could be entirely wrong on every count here #but i do think theres something to the idea that like #as ive seen said #yknow 'ace discourse never ended you all just accepted ace people didnt deserve support and then moved on w those views internalized' #i think thats more broadly true for like. all those discourses i mentioned. and for the transmisogyny i alluded to #but honestly i dont even want to name the specific phenomenon im talking abt there bc those people. scare me. #but yknow ill say it ive felt way more pressure lately to not call myself pan than i did at the height of pan discourse #before it became cringe to care about it and instead of actively shitting on pan ppl we moved on to passively doing it #ive largely started just. calling myself bi to avoid the arguement. which i predicted i would have to do years ago #and now look at me doing it! not really a fluke that its happening now. i think #which isnt to say were moving 'backwards' per se but that these ideas are not now and never have been really challenged #so weve just internalized their logics--reactionary logics--and its having an interesting effect now that we need a progressive community #for our safety. #now we cant say anything about it because to bring it up is jeopardizing everything weve built and the people were keeping safe! #cause we dont count as people deserving of safety were disruptors who only belong when we dont make noise. idk. or thats how i feel #again i dont really know if this is true at all im more just...thinking through it i think #basically like what im seeing--i think--comes from simultaneously that need to be unmarketable in the face of hostility #coming into conflict with a decade of momentum to make queers solely marketable. and i think thats producing some interesting--but sucky #--discourses in the current moment #last disclaimer that i might and am likely totally wrong! okay lauren out. post send *nervous sweating*

[chalcolith]

sometimes i remember reading about this japanese soldier who fought in the second world war. when it ended, he was hiding out in the mountains of the philippines with a group of other soldiers. they'd had no communications from the japanese officials that the war had ended. over time, however, word got up the mountain that the war was over. leaflets were left by allied soldiers, then by concerned islanders. this group of men decided that none of this could be genuine; that it was all fabricated — allied propaganda, or a ploy to get them to come out. this went on until 1974. for 29 years, this man stayed in hiding, in the belief that he was fighting a war which had ended almost three decades ago, between two world powers which had either changed beyond recognition or simply ceased to exist. it took the japanese government locating his original commanding officer, now the civilian owner of a bookshop in kyoto, and asking him to meet with this soldier and order him to stand down. I wonder, though, what would have happened if he didn't. if his commanding officer never showed up. would this soldier have fought this non-existent war to the death? would it never have occurred to him that after four or five or six decades, with no sign of enemy activity, with no word from his superiors, it might finally be safe for him to come out, surrender, and be relieved from duty?

anyway the other day I met someone who genuinely unironically used the words "tucute" and "truscum" in real life conversation in the year 2023

[shaftking]

Besides just online spaces I think a lot of public trans spaces are also in ruin rn, I know the one place in my town was mostly women nb's and tucutes, since I'm a pre-everything transman in my late 20's one of them assumed I was an nb since I haven't medically transitioned and when I mentioned that I haven't been able to start hrt cause I can't afford it she made some creepy comments about "learning to love my boobs as a butch nb", "trans" spaces in general have become overrun by cis girls

I’m pre-everything too and I feel you so much. I’ve been they/themmed by profs in college and asked my pronouns by classmates who are openly nonbinary. I’ve spoken about it personally before, but I literally have never felt safe coming out or being out as trans in part because of this exact thing.

I hate that we’ve gotten to the point that any random cis girl can walk into a place for trans people and claim that because she’s “nonbinary” that she’s the same as a trans person while she also saying shit like “I love my boobs and I’m a lesbian.” Just. Fucking insane. Every time I see this shit I feel like I’m actually losing my marbles.

#ask

[the-good-takes]

Honestly I think we should call sysmeds something else (like syskeepers, syswalls, something to make it clear still that they exclude and/or deny the existence of different kinds of systems) and here is why

The "med" in sysmed stands for "medical." I know it was used to show the similarities between transmeds and exclusionary systems, but they are separate issues with separate problems (the problem with transmedicalism is that they treat transness as inherently medical/disordered. With systems, they ARE medical/disordered by nature, no matter what caused the system to form, so this just makes the term "sysmed" redundant and confusing. The problem with sysmeds is ableism and denying other systems the right to call ourselves systems and enter plural safe spaces)

Comparing the issue to transmedicalism, while the exlusionary mindsets are similar, can be triggering for some trans people, even those who are against exclusionism

It can confuse people who are new to the discourse/argument, and frankly I think it wouldn't be hard to make it more clear

Exclusionary systems are not good, obviously, but their comfort and triggers matter just as much as ours. We can call them exclusionary without calling them something harmful to do it, especially if it can harm people uninvolved with the discourse as well (ie trans people)

Sysmed tucutes/mogai/radinclus exist

To add to the above point, seeing words similar to "transmed" is sometimes triggering for those of us who are tucute/mogai/radinclus, or can bring up bad memories relating to to what we've had to ho through due to transmedicalism

There's probably stuff I'm not thinking about too

TLDR: Sysmed as a term is inaccurate and confusing, so we should call them something else instead. Syskeepers, syswalls, Solesystems, etc might work better since they clarify that the problem is exclusion and denial of other systems existing, not of medicalizing a disorder/illness. I'm open to other suggestions for new labels to call them!

(Note: I come from a mixed-origin system, am very endo-friendly, and am tulpa-neutral [as I don't know much about tulpa stuff or thoughtform]. I am open to friendly, civil discussion from those who are NOT sysmeds, if they have suggestions or disagree with something I said)

#syscourse #endogenic systems #traumagenic systems #endo safe #mixed origin systems #tulpagenic systems #thoughtform systems #transmed mention