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leonicscorpio · 2 years
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What your favorite Member of the Bat Boys Says about you: WILD ACCUSATION/ROAST EDITION.
(also disclaimer, this is meant to be a joke. If you send hate I'll only be mildly amused and then contemplate whether to share your hate or delete it based on how much traction I think it'll earn me. I understand these are a lot of y'all's comfort characters but considering the fact no one throws more hatred and criticism against these characters than the fans themselves. I figured why not join in.)
Dick Grayson
You are either inconceivably horny on main for this man, usually stemming from a childhood attraction to him from Young Justice, Teen Titans if you're old, or the Batman and Robin movie if you're even older, and also gay.
Or you're a puritanical hypercritic who wants to burn down DC Comics if they have one more character comments on his ass in a way that would make Frollo from The Hunchback of Notre Dame call you an extremist. AND you're also horny as fuck for him on the DL.
You call yourself the mom friend and secretly hope everyone else will call you the mom friend, but the only person whose life is falling apart worse than yours is Dick Grayson under Devin Grayson's penmanship.
You somehow find a way to hate and nit pick every detail of a comic of one of the most consistently written characters in DC (and that's saying something) and I don't know whether to compliment you or look mildly aghast.
It applies to all the bat boys but how's your relationship with your father? Answer the question. I said answer. The question.
Jason Todd
I have yet to meet a single person who says Jason Todd is their favorite Bat Boy and they weren't some combination of 1. LGBTQIA+, 2. Below the age of 30, or 3. currently dealing with some form of mental trauma/illness.
I understand that a lot of y'all are bitter and upset over the fact Jason had the setup to be the perfect villain to Batman, one who could even outpace the joker. But hearing y'all complain about his characterization every. single. time Jason even makes so much as a cameo is like watching someone trying to mop the Titanic.
Oh, you hate Scott Lobdell? That's a very agreeable opinion nowadays considering all that he's done. By the way, there's a rather large collection of JayRoy and Jaytimas reblogs on your Tumblr dash, can you tell me what that's all about?
As hypocritical as it is for me, a Jason fan with Jason as their profile picture, if someone doesn't tell you that they think Jason Todd is a genuinely awful person after they tell you Jason Todd is their favorite, that's not a red flag, that's literally the most direct metaphor for someone pointing a gun at your face and telling you to run.
Tim Drake
How's the victim complex my friend? No seriously, as much as I love Tim all of the bad things that have happened to him as Robin happened because he fucked around with being Robin and found out that his family was killed because of it.
You either are a brand new infant to the fandom because Tim came out of the closet back in August (although we've done been known for literally decades now) or you've been with this fandom so long that it's self cannibalism and toxicity completely doesn't phase you anymore.
I'd argue that Tim fans are the least toxic of all the fans of the Bat Boys only because DC Comics, up until recently, kind of hasn't touched Tim all that much, so people have kind of shoved him to the wayside.
That being said, the literal shipping wars this literal fuckboy of a vigilante whom everyone swears is their small uwu precious string bean has caused is on par with the ALTA/LOK/V*ltr*n Fandoms.
Damian Wayne
So you hate how people write Damian and you have a literal fight response anytime anyone criticizes Damian because he's a minor? Tell me how's your favorite Damirae/Damijon fanfiction? Answer the god damned question.
I'll give Damian fans their credit because at least 90-95% of them recognize that yes, Damian is a child, but he's one of the most horrific and abjectly abhorrent assholes to ever be written into comics (but that's also a large reason why you all like him)
To the 5-10% who think Damian is their perfect precious murder baby who has done nothing wrong, how does it feel to know you are objectively worse than even the Jason Todd Stans/Kinnies?
I haven't met anyone yet who is a Damian fan/someone who says Damian is their favorite who wasn't chaotic. And not the good kind of Chaotic.
I also have seen someone issue actual death threats to an artist over a characters skin tone exactly 3 times through fandom, for SU fans, for V*ltr*n, and for Damian Wayne.
Duke Thomas
I don't understand how you, a Duke Fan, have stuck with this fandom for so long considering I think he's appeared in like 2-3 canonical comic runs, but like good on you for making the most of it.
Understandably you all are the least problematic of the bunch because again I think there's maybe 2-3 comics where he's featured.
I guess my bigger concern is do you exist? If so would you like to be perceived as a Bat Family fan? Are you sure? Are you certain?
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leonicscorpio · 2 years
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a bundle of robins, including:
1. alfred giving up on styling any successive robins’ hair
2. batman jungle gym
3. steph posing for the batcamera
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leonicscorpio · 2 years
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Just chillin, just doodlin
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leonicscorpio · 3 years
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Okay hear me out
Gotham Knights but in the style of Tales of Symphonia. Not gameplay wise, but Jason acts just like Colette around dogs.
For those who don't know Tales of Symphonia is a JRPG released in 2003 on the gamecube and ps2. And one of the main party members, Colette Brunel, has an achievement title you can get where she names/plays with every dog in the game.
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Now since Gotham Knights is gonna be an open-world game where you can explore Gotham City as Dick, Jason, Barbra, and Tim. I want an achievement/sub-quest where you can play with every dog. We know everyone in the family likes dogs, but everyone seems to highlight how Jason in particular has a love of our canine friends.
Imagine walking brick-shithouse of a man Jason Todd in his full Red Hood regalia walking towards a dog on the side of the street in Gotham and just casually starts petting them and talking to them. And the dog isn't scared at all. They're just so happy someone is playing with them.
I want an achievement for Jason that's like 'Friend of all Dogs' where if you talk to every dog as Jason you get a stat boost. It would add so much depth to the game and would make everyone love it even more.
Anyways Warner Brothers Montreal here's my idea free of charge all I ask for is name recognition only...
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leonicscorpio · 3 years
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I'm.. conflicted with this. While on one hand I'm super excited to see more Jason content. Always have been and always will be. I think this may be putting the cart before the horse. We still don't have Season 3 of Titans yet and while we know what Curran Walters was like as Robin. We still don't know how he'll act as Red Hood.
Again, I think Curran Walters is fine as Robin. He's not winning any awards in my book. And while he's not a bad actor by any means. I'm hesitant to see how he is as Red Hood. I absolutely want Walters to knock this park and kill it as Red Hood. It's just to me is performance as Jason Todd has been... Awkward.
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leonicscorpio · 3 years
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Sincerest apologies if this has already been done
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leonicscorpio · 3 years
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The Bat Boys as Birth Tarot Part 1.
"The moment man devoured the fruit of knowledge, he sealed his fate... Entrusting his future to the cards, man clings to a dim hope. Yes, the Arcana is the means by which all is revealed..." 
So this is a fun side project I did thinking about both Persona and Batman. And how the bat family would relate to having a birth tarot card/arcana in Persona terms.
Jason Todd
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"Only Courage in face doubt can lead one to the answer."
The Emperor & Death
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Jason both literally and symbolically has always been defined by his death. The Death Tarot card ultimately represents the ending of things. And whether or not one let's go of what they cling to. Death is inevitable for all things. And for much of Jason's story, it's the death of himself and the trauma he carries. He learns to let go of his anger and rage to an extent. And learns to control it. Serving as a guardian. He determines himself to be the metric, the judge, and the executioner of of those who commit crimes most heinous. This is where The Emperor comes in. The Emperor represents the ruler. The one who plays the role of the authority. But also represents the lack of control of self and childlike outbursts. His tirade of mass murder for attention seeking mean much?
If Jason were in Persona, I'm torn on whether I'd give him The Emperor or Death as his arcana. But I think I'd have to go with Death. Jason literally dies and comes back to life through the Lazarus Pit. He comes back and swears upon his life to seek revenge against Bruce and The Joker. But when he fails at that task, he struggles for a bit for what his meaning is. His purpose. The Death arcana in the upright position represents letting go of the past, and the beginning of a new cycle. It varies from continuity to continuity, but Jason ultimately learns that he died because of his brash decision to chase the Joker alone. And for as much as he thinks he can only rely on himself. He needs his family and his friends. And he learns he can be a hero in his own right. He's torn and conflicted by his actions. But he understands the fine line that is death. And really Bruce should have killed the Joker DECADES AGO but hey he's literally the biggest cash cow DC has so he literally renders all of Jason's motivations moot but thatS OKAY IM FINE.
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leonicscorpio · 3 years
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Happy Jason death anniversary 🥳🥳
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leonicscorpio · 3 years
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🎉❤️🖤😘 Happy Death Day you Dramatic Emo Mass Murderer. I love you you dumb bitch. Go shoot a P*d*.😘🖤❤️🎉
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leonicscorpio · 3 years
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So I know next to nothing about Countdown to Final Crisis but I dare anyone to look me dead in the eyes and tell me to my face that any of the three in this exact image are heterosexual.
You can't tell me this isn't the Thruple you'd find at a farmers market selling handmade jewelry, paintings, and giving live readings of folk poems whilst also selling homemade artisanal cheeses and the eggs of their passive-aggressive hen named Peggy from Wichita.
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leonicscorpio · 3 years
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What Batboys ship you have says about you: In the style of Eldena Doubleca5t: (Sorry no Batcest) (Also in no particular order: meant to be comedic)
Dick Grayson x Koriand'r (Starfire)
Speaking exclusively to the cartoon network OG Teen Titans. You are committed to keeping things canon and keeping things wholesome.
Dick Grayson x Rachel Roth (Raven)
Your high school romance pairing is Jock x Goth.
Jason Todd x Koriand'r
Your ideal relationship trope involves stealing someone's girl.
Jason Todd x Rose Wilson (Ravager)
Your high school romance pairing is Goth x Goth
Jason Todd x Slade Wilson (Deathstroke)
I can't tell if you want to f*ck dads, but you DEFINITELY want to f*ck villains.
Dick Grayson x Slade Wilson
You definitely want to f*ck dads. Also please see help. The majority of their interactions were when Dick was a teen and Slade is a whole grown-ass man.
Tim Drake x Conner Kent (Superboy)
You believe this is the ultimate gay aesthetic ship of DC comics. Also you really love that one image of a hamster eating a banana.
Tim Drake x Kara El Zor (Supergirl)
You are h*tros*xual.
Damian Wayne x Rachel Roth
You are h*tros*xual, but like, in not as weird of a way as the last one, but Rachel's age is sus as hell so I have to give you looks of disapproval. Not my rules.
Jason Todd x Kara El Zor
Your interest in Kara's current canon is outweighed by your crippling addiction to edgy boys.
Dick Grayson x Roy Harper (is he Speedy at this point or is he Arsenal? idk)
Your ideal romantic date involves this vine.
Jason Todd x Roy Harper
You were SO excited when the phrase 'Be gay, do crimes' became a popular thing again.
Jason Todd x Isabel Ardila (Flight attendant from RHatO)
You just want good things for Jason, and honestly, who wouldn't?
Dick Grayson x Lucas Trent (Midnighter)
You think the key to a good romcom is to have the main couple hate each other for at least a good third of the movie. Also you are here for the one instance that ANYONE was able to turn Dick Grayson into a Tsunadre
Damian Wayne x Jon Kent (Supersons)
Your favorite romantic trope is the young couple who acts like a old bickering married couple.
Jason Todd x Artemis of Bana-Midghdall
Your ideal romantic relationship involves 👏MEN👏GETTING👏PEGGED👏
Tim Drake x Bart Allen (Impulse)
You are into small beans, too pure for this world. Just a pair of cinnamon rolls.
Tim Drake x Miguel Barrigan (Bunker)
Your favorite romantic trope is gay guy makes his Str8 best friend fall in love with him. You also think that the only good thing Scott Lobdell ever did was create Bunker.
Jason Todd x Miguel Barrigan
You really wish Scott Lobdell had written the ending to Red Hood: Outlaw #33 any other way. Also Stephen Segovia is your favorite Red Hood artist and that's so valid.
Jason Todd x Conner Kent
You ask what's the only thing better than one edgy buff boy who doesn't talk about his feelings? Two edgy buff boys who don't talk about their feelings.
Jason Todd x Kyle Rayner (White Lanturn)
You don't want a bickering married couple, moreso you want like a waspy couple. One where they low-key resent each other and nobody talks about their feelings.
Tim Drake x Jaime Reyes (The new Blue Beetle)
Your ideal romantic relationship involves guys being dudes.
And that's it. I know I didn't include a lot of popular pairings because I'm trying to avoid as much batcest as I can (idk do what you want I just wanna do my best not to offend anyone.) And I don't know all of the comics so a lot of this comes from what I've seen in fandom so... Yeah.
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leonicscorpio · 3 years
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I have a serious love-hate relationship with Lobdell and his writing. Particularly during RHatO and RH:O. He makes Jason such a wishy-washy character. But at the same time some of his characterizations are the reason why I love Jason so much. And this is one of the few times I truly cried. After literally beating Jason to within an inch of his life after nearly killing the Penguin. Lobdell brings forth this scene. That despite everything Jason has done, despite all the shitty writing and characterization that they put both Bruce and Jason through, at the end of the day, Bruce does still love Jason like his son and Jason still sees Bruce as a father figure.
Ask yourself this. What would you do if you found out your child was a prolific serial killer? What if your very mission in life is to serve and protect, only to find out your child is murking people left and right. Truth be told, there is no correct answer, there certainly are wrong answers, and Bruce has definitely made a lot of wrong decisions in regards to how he treats Jason. And Bruce has to face an almost impossible decision every time he has to deal with Jason, who he clearly still loves.
There's a lot of wrong and bad takes going around about Bruce and Jason. Especially now since Jason's getting a (as of now) well written comic focusing on him. But honestly, as much as I love the dynamic between Bruce and Jason. It's so horrifically toxic. If I had my way, I would completely separate them again for the time being. Jason can still show up with Nightwing and The Teen Titans or with Damian every now and then. But Bruce and Jason need their space if they want to heal and be something together.
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Red Hood: Outlaw #27
I  knew that Bruce cares about Jason no matter what, and it’s good to see it here.
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leonicscorpio · 3 years
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So Jason Todd, upon coming back to life and realizing that Bruce seemingly didn't mourn him and just replaced him, proceeded to go on a tirade of becoming one of the world's most feared and skilled assassins, goes on numerous killing sprees, spouts literary quotes while killing people, publically brings Gotham's crime network to it's knees in the matter of a few weeks, decapatates 8 high ranking Gotham criminals and stuffs their heads in a gym duffle bag, taunts and harasses all of his foes, has a dramatic rooftop brawl with his father, steals a robin suit to fight Tim Drake as Robin, steals a Nightwing costume and goes on a killing spree in NYC all to fuck with Dick's head. Leads two separate bands of wayward heroes, pretends to assassinate the mayor of Gotham on live TV, pretends to assassinate The Penguin on live TV, then takes over the Penguin's Casino, publically announces that he's alive and that he didn't die.
And after all of that, you mean to tell me that Jason, the most Dramatic Wayne-Todd, isn't the textbook definition of a burned, overdramatic Leo.
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leonicscorpio · 3 years
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Batboy Headcanons because I made this for me but you all can enjoy this too if want. (May contain mild NSFW)
Dick:
Has a weird relationship with unwanted gaze and the attention he receives because of his physique. He genuinely likes the attention but he draws the line when people start getting touchy. Just because he's shirtless working out doesn't mean he gave you consent to touch him.
Has good dieting skills but he's in his mid-late 20's and his metabolism has 0 signs of slowing down. He once ate a whole xl bag of M&M's in front of Steph and Babs and both said they wanted to murder him because he won't gain a pound.
Dick has ADHD and I'm sorry if you don't think otherwise. He has hyperactive type ADHD and while he's gotten better at controlling his symptoms he still stims stretching and flexing his arms and shaking his arms.
While not so much in Gotham, Dick is very politically active and volunteers at voter registration and working with organizations with the mission of police demilitarization in Blüdhaven.
Dick is a very sexually driven individual. However, I don't think it's entirely healthy. His ADHD also comes into play with this but Dick just needs to have a release at least twice a day or he'll feel physically sick.
I don't know if you all have seen male gymnasts. But Dick, like the rest of them, has FREAKSISHLY large biceps. Everyone talks about Dick has the best ass in the bat family and while Jason may be larger and stronger, Dick has the best physique.
Dick's apartment is littered with sticky notes in places such as the fridge/in front of his computer. If it's not written down and in a place where he can't ignore it, it's not going to get done.
I'm sorry I know everyone says his birthday is in March but I have to go to the older Nightwing comics and say his Birthday is December 1st. I want you to look me in the eyes and tell me this man doesn't give off Sagittarius energy. You can't. I respect you but you can't look at that and tell me that man isn't a Sagittarius or has super heavy Sag in his birth chart.
Dick's at home doing nothing but chilling? You best believe he's gonna be shirts off, tits out, and rocking some blue flannel PJ's.
Dick is currently the only member of the family asides from Barbara who is regularly attending therapy. And he actively encourages each of his brothers and sisters to go every time.
After his Agent 37 days. He sits down with Jason and talks about having to use a gun and how hard it was. And how having to kill people has affected him. When he had to kill the KGBeast (Agent 37 days he snapped his neck) I headcanon Dick just trauma v*mit*d. Jason hugged him and just consoled him.
It's canon that Dick has anger issues but to me, it's not explored or talked about enough and not a lot of people like to talk about it. Dick is very much the 'if I ignore it it'll go away' type when it comes to his anger and he can brush most insults or harassment off fine enough. But when he breaks, he makes Jason look like a saint. I'm talking slamming you into a wall and screaming in your face angry. He'll be profusely apologetic afterward but still.
Despite popular belief, I don't think he's that bad of a cook. He's just not very experimentative. He can follow a recipe and does look at some guides. But to me, Dick Grayson just is that guy who is like Chicken veggies and rice are a meal that I can cook 4-6 times a week.
Dick has a slight fear of dentists. He doesn't have bad teeth and has good dental health. He just doesn't like the idea of a drill going in his mouth and the few times Bruce has to take him to a dentist he had a panic attack every time.
Everyone lives for the fics where Jason beats the shit out of Tim and everyone is just like lol well Bruce and Dick just forgives him. No. When Dick found out it was Jason who beat Tim to the ground, Dick was literally seething and told Jason "Pick on someone your own size or else I'll make you wish you back in that f'ing coffin."
Dick's favorite foods (some based in Canon*): Milk Chocolate*, Cereal*, Asparagus, Bananas, Banana flavored candy, Hawaiian Pizza* (suffer its canon) Rum, thanksgiving Turkey.
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Jason:
He may be the self-diagnosed black sheep (rightfully so) of the family, but Jason does genuinely love spending time with his siblings. Whether it be sharing memes with them on social media or just randomly showing up where they are and abducting them to go get ice cream/coffee/snacks.
He'd probably attempt to harm you if you told him this to his face. But he is the closest acting to Bruce out of all of the family. In terms of mannerisms and inherent warmth and kindness behind a dark façade.
Has two moods: either exceptionally, almost neat-freak levels of clean, or his life is completely falling apart and Jason can't tell you for sure what color his floors are because there's so much stuff scattered about.
Despite their initial hatred of each other, Jason truly feels closest to Tim and Tim is the only person asides from maybe Barbra who he can just talk to without feeling any judgment.
Jason only smokes when he's extremely nervous about an operation or a hit. For those who don't know criminal justice cigarettes are the fastest way to get genetic material on someone. That being said he does still like to smoke occasionally.
Me, plus a lot of people give him this sort of 'Lazarus Rage' as I like to call it. When he's in the heat of a mission or if he's getting upset/angry his vision will get blurred with green, and it feeds on his anger and just gets perpetually harder to contain until he releases it. Jason has gotten much better at controlling it. But as he will tell Tim or Babs, he's "seeing green" which means they need to be careful because Jason could kill.
Everyone says Dick is the mother hen. I see you, I accept you, but let me raise you. Jason came to realize that he died because of his rash decision to go after The Joker alone. If Jason finds any of his siblings out acting alone, or even at the very least without Oracle. Jason WILL forcefully interject himself and ask them what the fuck they think their doing.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Trying to get close to Jason is hard. He will degrade you can attempt to try to get you to hate him before he lets you in (that cheeky Tsun of him)
He genuinely cares for and supports all of his siblings but has been rough on them needlessly. But if Bruce is being the distant or absent parent he is, you better believe if any of the siblings drops him a text or a call, Jason will be there in a heartbeat.
He's the most physically powerful of the whole Bat Family. You don't understand because of his time in the League, his time with the All-Caste, and having abused Venom for a time, he can snap an arm bone like it's a carrot with little effort.
Everyone in the family likes dogs and goes out of their way to gush over a dog, but Jason takes it to a whole new level. And even when he's masked up dogs just gravitate to Jason.
Can and has grown a beard in a matter of a few days. He usually likes to be clean shaven but some days he likes to wear a beard just to throw everyone off.
One time him, Steph, Tim, and Duke all went to a restaurant (Red Robin lol) and the waitress got his order wrong and his burger had raw tomatoes on it, Jason took the tomatoes off and ate it while looking absolutely miserable. Tim: Jay why did you eat that you didn't have to you know you could have asked the server to fix your burger. Jason, almost in tears: "She works really hard and she tried and I'm a scary dude I don't want to make her upset.." Duke: "... Jason you literally shot at a cop for looking at you funny the other day. But you're afraid of upsetting a waitress?!? I mean ACAB but dude.. "
Jason's happiest big brother moment™ was taking Tim and Damian to the shooting range and watching them both get their first bullseye.
You can't tell me Jason Todd was into the Emo/Screamo/Warped-Tour Scene. His favorite bands/Albums in no particular order, That's the Spirit (Literally the whole album is Jason Themed and I'm gonna die on this hill) & Sempiternal by Bring me the Horizon, Digital Renegade & Everyone's Safe in the Treehouse by I See Stars, The Resistance: Rise of the Runaways by Crown the Empire,
Jason Todd's favorite foods: (Also some based in Canon*) Burgers, Chili Dogs*, Lager-style beers, Freshly baked bread*, Neopolitan ice cream, grilled corn, and Chinese Chicken noodle soup with Duck.
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Tim:
This boy *slaps car roof* gives off so much asexual energy. I know New 52 exists but I just feel like Tim is the person who really, REALLY has to trust you and like you before he's sexually active with you.
HYPERFIXATES. You also can't tell me Tim isn't on the spectrum/or has ADHD.
Is the only member of the family who regularly checks up on Jason and talks to him every day via text message. The two are memelords together and love to play pranks on the other members.
While Dick may give the most frequent hugs and Jason gives the tightest, most secure hugs, Tim's hugs are always the warmest and make you just feel good.
Tim's birthday is July 19th. Meaning he's a Cancer. Let that sink in.. no, really let that information just soak. (Note I have nothing against Cancer women, cancer men however....)
All of the bat boys really struggle with talking about their feelings. Dick will manipulate you into changing the subject via twisting it to be about you, Jason will just cut you off or will ignore you, Damian will deflect everything and harass you until you stop, Tim however, Tim is very emotional and while he's very calculated about who he's emotional with, he's not afraid to break down and cry if he trusts you.
Everyone who says he's the level headed Robin haha how's it feel to be WRONG. Tim is at best the least functional college student and at worst a lemming. 'No Tim, coffee isn't a meal I'm going to make you some food or I'm going to stick you in a room with Damian for an hour.' Richard (Dick) John Grayson.
People overblow how addicted to caffeine Tim is. But it's true. Just overblown. You can talk to him before he's had his caffeine just don't expect him to be anything but curt and blunt.
Everyone says Jason would be the worst at texting but it's Tim. He's the master of leaving you on read. While Jason may do it on purpose, Tim is just really bad at texting people and while he always will read your messages he forgets to respond unless it's really funny or really pressing.
Everyone sees Tim as this bean pole super skinny boy Robin. Tim may not be stacked like Dick or a freaking tank like Jason, but Tim is NOT super skinny. He's just as muscular and likes to work out as anyone, but he just is super lean, so he looks a lot bigger and his muscles are more defined because of how thin his skin is. He has those almost disgusting spider veins on his arm. Kind of gross to look at, but he's the dream of any nurse. This means Tim is also the king of accidentally sending/posting thirst traps.
He really is the glue of the Bat Family. Everyone kidnaps Tim for 'Tim Time'.
Dick likes to spar with and in general just hang out with Tim. Tim tried to teach Dick how to skateboard and you'd think the boy who mastered the trapeze would know how to skateboard but you'd be wrong.
Babs and Tim always hang out and talk about computer stuff and Babs knows she can vent to Tim about anything and he won't say a word.
Tim and Steph were a thing for a while and even though they're just friends now, they still are very close and the two have a very deep bond, liking to shop with each other and watch movies,
Cass just loves to be around Tim because of how calming he is but also she knows she can spar with him AND Cass can also skateboard with Tim too.
Even though him and Damian are always fighting, the two still end up being together and have this unspoken bond. They work great together on a team but other than that they still hate each other.
And while everyone still is hesitant around Jason, and despite the fact that Jason literally beat Tim to within an inch of his life, AND would still trigger Tim and taunt him about it. The two have this odd closeness that rivals even him and Steph. Tim will always be the first to bat for Jason. Jason was Tim's Robin. And despite the fact Jason literally beat it into Tim's head to "never meet your heroes." Tim will always be there for Jason should he ask. The two are just close. And it's hard to describe. Bruce has caught Tim and Jason just platonically sleeping next to each other or just doing their own things shoulder to shoulder silently, just enjoying each other's company.
Tim and Duke also have a really positive relationship with one another and the two can stay up all night just talking about anything. Their minds just mesh well together. The two also love to team up and prank the other members of the Batman Family.
Tim's favorite ASMR/Stim? Watching those Tik Toks of people cleaning computers or cleaning phones. The sound of an air duster is like music to his ears and if any of the Bats need their technology cleaned it secretly makes Tim so happy to help them.
Wear his hair up or wear his hair down? It depends! While Tim likes his long hair he also has gotten plenty of compliments for his short hair and likes to style it to suit any occasion.
My one pet-peeve with Tim is that he probably is that person who lets his privilege show from time to time. While he was essentially raised to just sit down, shut up, and be a perfect trophy son to the Drake's. The Drake's were in the same tax bracket as Bruce and Tim definitely was a rich kid. He never means to come across as spoiled, but sometimes Jason will give him harsh looks if Tim just throws away food he doesn't like or says things like Chipotle is 'poor people food'
Tim Drake's favorite foods (you know by now*) Donuts*, Shallot and Artichoke Pizza with Canadian Bacon* (odd choice but it could work) Artichokes in general are his favorite vegetable, Strawberries, and Beef Pho.
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Damian:
I headcanon that he has the worst teeth of all of the Bat Boys and he actually has to use lingual braces. (Hence why you can't see his braces)
Canonically is a very good artist and while him and Tim don't get along, Tim introduced Damian to digital art and gave him a photoshop pack and a nice tablet for his birthday one year and Damian loved it so much.
Damian is a capricorn and I will die on this hill. A January capricorn too.
Now you want a good chef? You've got Damian. Having converted to veganism Damian has had to get creative whenever he goes out to eat so he tends to like to eat more home cooked foods. Damian loves all matters of mushrooms, eggplant, and bell peppers.
Damian really struggles the most with his wanting to just be a normal kid. Despite the fact he will dismiss you for it, anytime he gets to spend at Gotham Academy with Jon and the rest of the kids he's naturally the happiest.
Damian LOVES to give gifts. He loves the look on people's faces when they are shocked when they actually get something from Damian.
Despite the fact that he's been traumatized from both his times with Ra's and Talia as well as with Bruce. He just wants Bruce and Talia to be together because he loves them both equally.
While he's the least flexible and least gymnastic of the Robins do let your guard down around him. He is the fastest runner and the guy is rivaled only by Jason in terms of lethality.
So someone (Jason Todd & Duke Thomas) introduced Damian to trap music and ever since anytime his phone gets stolen people will be shocked to find he's listening to some combination of Lil' Yachty, X, Kendrick Lamar, Wiz, and Kodak.
If any random person tries to hug Damian he'll immediately push them away, he'll bitch and moan about just about anyone hugging him other than Bruce & Dick.
Damian loves to go to the beach/the ocean. He just thinks it's so vast and he loves the brineness of the air. Also being half white, quarter middle-eastern and quarter Chinese (Yes everyone forgets Talia is half Chinese) Damian gets DARK. And although he's just okay as a swimmer he still likes bogeyboarding and eventually wants to learn how to surf.
I'm genuinely afraid once Puberty is done with this kid and everyone in the family is. He has Bruce Wayne AND Talia Al-Ghouls genes and those are two SEXY human beings. Damian's gonna grow a beard one day and people aren't going to know how to act.
Damian secretly plays Fortnight and not even Jon knows. He doesn't want to get shamed. He'd rather lose a match and ruin his streaks than deal with the shame of anyone in that family finding out he plays Fortnight.
Damian Wayne's favorite foods (canon*) Cereal*, Avocados, Grilled Tempeh, his mom's Tabbouleh, Mushroom Tacos, and Vegan Sushi rolls, and grape juice.
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Duke Thomas
Duke is like, freakishly good with a piano, and he picked it up naturally!
Also everyone says Tim brews the best pot of coffee in the Bat Family, cue to everyone's surprise when Tim was sick one day and couldn't make a pot. Only to find the coffee was freaking amazing. Duke didn't take any credit at first until Alfred let it slip that Duke was the one who brewed the pot.
Duke being the only Meta of the family originally thought he was the double-token because he was a Meta and a black boy. Needless to say his fears were seriously unfounded the moment he got to know everyone.
Although he somewhat fears Jason and his temper initially, he and Jason have one of the closest relationships in the family. If Tim isn't around to bat for Jason, Duke will happily take his spot. The two work on each other's bikes and grew to share the same taste in music.
Duke uses his Photokenetic powers as a force for good and for shenanigans. Jason wants to play a prank on Dick and Damian while Dick is reading Damian a story? Duke will hide Jason in the shadows and will cover up his shadow. Alfred dropped something in the dark? You better believe Duke will find it in 3 seconds or less.
Duke makes it a point to visit his parents every weekend to talk to them. Although they are making some progress in their recoveries, it's still slow going. Eventually, he starts bringing members of the family to see his parents. It started with Cass, then Jason, and the rest followed suit.
Duke loves playing video games with Damian and even helps Damian beat some tougher levels when Damian is about to rage and destroy the console.
Duke is into Magic the Gathering and you cannot tell me otherwise. Duke also is the DM for the Bat Kids annual D&D games. I can and will make a D&D Batfam Headcanons if asked.
Loves Pho just as much as Cass and Tim and they all call it a date night every now and then where they can go to a hole in the wall pho place. It's really a secret between the three of them.
DUKE THOMAS IS THE BEST SWIMMER OF THE BAT BOYS AND I WILL DIE ON THIS HILL. HE JUST THRIVES IN THE WATER.
Finding out his birth father is a supervillain was really tough for him. He went into a shell for a little bit afterwards. Cass and Steph were there to help talk him out of his funk.
Duke Thomas's favorite foods (lol what canon DC hasn't acknowleged our boy in a while..) Chicken Pho, Thai Iced Tea, Papaya, Crab Cakes, Italian Hoagies, his mom's Lemon Poundcake, mint chocolate chip ice cream.
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I hope y'all enjoyed! Up next (eventually) will be the Bat Girls!
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ASDFGHJKL LITERALLY CHIP ZDARSKY. REALLY. YOU'RE GONNA COME HERE AND WRITE THE JASON WE'VE ALL BEEN ASKING FOR? HUH?
And for those who think Jason is acting OOC. Remember his entire modis opperendi is to kill drug dealers who deal to parents/children. He didn't give it a second thought when it came to killing Mark's dad last comic while it was happening. Hell, Jason has ended whole groups of people either to prove a point or to protect a greater good. Remember in the beginnings of RHATO when Jason literally murdered a submarine full of terrorists planning to nuke a city all by himself? Jason has never had to give a second thought about whether those characters had families or friends or what not.
For the first time in ever, Jason's actions have weight, they have consequences. And while it's probably taken upwards of 100 lives to get there. It looks like things just got a bit "too real" for Jason. Again there have been countless DC comics figures, from Supergirl to Killer Croc, all who mention the exact same thing. That Jason is a good guy trying to be bad. Jason isn't evil (at least Post New 52 Jason isn't) Jason does want to do the right thing. But being an anti-hero who follows a lot of the same mantras as The Punisher means you have to have some cognitive dissonance when it comes to those who you murder. But this, THIS, Jason is facing the consequences of his actions. And he's acting like he just killed a man for the first time when he literally decapitated 8 people when they were still alive, threw their heads in a duffle bag, and tossed them at Gotham's criminal elite all to prove a point?!?
Chip Zdarsky you are a madman and if you did this right and you do us justice with this and give us a genuinely meaningful arc with Jason. I will be overjoyed but I've been burned by DC before too many times. So all I've gotta say is this.
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Also side note but I'm REALLY growing to love Eddy Barrow's take on Jason. That's one heck of a man right there and we all know it... Oh... And Marcus To's take on kid Jason? *Chefs kiss*
Batman : Urban Legend #2 Preview
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It depends on your intepretation of Jason or which continuity you followed, Jason's reaction after him killing Tyler's dad may seems a bit OOC,however, these previews looks promising! (Look at another baby Jason art!). Hope it stays worth every penny because this run is quite expensive 😭
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Robins by Baldemar Rivas, which is part of DC’s new Round Robin tournament! You can vote for it in DC’s Instagram stories!
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Andbbdajnd thank you for the addition. I've come to realize and pretty much just accept that DC doesn't really stick to a point when it comes to ages and the such because their universal solution to a problem is to write a new comic set in a slightly different universe.
I always assumed Jason was a bit on the older end just due to his physical size. But size really means nothing when it comes to men. When I was an RA in college I had a resident who was 6'3, 18, 230lbs and literally a model and a bodybuilder. To assume that Jason could transform from a teenager who looks to be about 5'6/5'7 to the time of his death and suddenly gain 6-7 inches and a whole lot of muscle after training with the deadliest assassin's in the world is completely plausible. Granted Jason had also abused venom during the N52 in RHATO and Red Hood/Arsenal and it's erased kind of?
And yeah drinking as a frame of reference like I said before means nothing. If he can topple Gotham's criminal network at 18 to say he can't get a good fake ID is absurd.
I'm working on a series of one shots and I was having a tough time trying to get a frame of reference for age since pretty much every other member of the Bat Family has an established (albeit inconsistently) age. After Jason died we really have nothing to go off of asides from Lost Days.
So Jason Todd’s Age makes no freaking sense.
So I know this topic is just going to ooze discourse but I need a freaking answer. How old is Jason Todd as the Red Hood? I’ve seen so many conflicting things online and no one seems to have a straight answer (doesn’t help that DC Comics themselves doesn’t seem to know either)
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So it’s pretty much generally accepted that Jason was 15 when he died. In most depictions via comics or live action movies like Under the Red Hood or A Death in the Family, I can clearly see that Jason is a boy in his mid teens. Not many people debate this.
But here’s where things get sticky…
When Jason is resurrected (either from Superboy Prime in the Pre-New 52/Lost Days Arc or the Under the Red Hood Arc) he still is 15. He’s still physically the same age as the day he died. And some depictions say it’s only been about a year between his death and the resurrection, some say it’s been 5 years. But what we have in Red Hood: Lost Days does line up with what we know.
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You take a look here and you can clearly see a 15-16 year old boy. The next phases of Lost Days also makes sense in terms of a transition in terms of puberty/growth and development. Jason also took his dip in the Lazarus Pit at this point.
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I can take a look at this and say yes. This is a kid aged anywhere between 17-18. I think the Lost Days comic mentions he’s about 16 or so in this part of the comic and I can see it too.
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And this is right before he dons the Red Hood persona. Now Jason I’d argue looks about 17-18 at the VERY low end of this. And this preludes Under the Red Hood.
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Now I wanna take a brief moment to focus on the Death in the family movie. Because this is where things just become an absolute fucking trip. Depending on which route you take Jason is still 15 during the events of Bosnia (from the UTRH Universe) and is out of commission for at least a few months to recover.
Whether you chose to have Jason become Red Hood (or Red Robin, or Hush) Jason STILL packs on at least 6-7 inches what must be at least 40-50lbs of straight muscle in the span of MONTHS. Because his build still isn’t all that disimilar from his final build in Under the Red Hood. And canonically only a few months has past. So Jason can’t be older than 16-17 during the events of this movie. I just.. I know boys have gone through their growth spurts like a truck hitting them at 120mph from a skyscraper but DAMN.
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This brings us to Under the Red Hood. Now knowing what we know now Jason must be in the ballpark of 18-19 years old when all of this movie happens. And I just find it shocking.
Jason’s official stats at this time are that he’s 6'0 and 225lbs. Jason’s an intimidating dude. And that makes him only slightly leaner than freaking Bruce. And it just boggles my mind. I cannot see it. Like my mind can’t comprehend that all of this was done by some 18 year old.
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I guess it’s me ranting about artistic licensing. I mean shit in RHATO’s Jason’s at a bar in Colorado drinking a beer. Granted I know it’s confirmed that Jason had spent time with the All-Caste and gained his magical abilities through them when he was 19 or so I think?
We also know that Rocafort’s run as artist for RHATO followed after the events of UTRH. So it makes sense that Jason is 21 or at the very least 20. (Yes I know Jason is drinking underaged if he’s 20 but this kid singlehandedly brought the Gotham crime scene to it’s knees in a matter of weeks. Obtaining a good fake ID is a cakewalk)
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But then we get to Rebirth Jason (Dexter Soy) and he looks almost younger? And I know Rebirth is AFTER Rocafort’s run. So must be realistic to think that Jason is at least 21-22 Physically at this point? I don’t even..
Also because of the Lazarus Pit isn’t Jason also supposed to age slower? As well as getting some type of healing factor???!?
Look. If someone who can actually keep a track on how would this man is please tell me. I’m really confused and trying to write a good age for Jason is a pain in my ass.
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