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true-blue-megamind · 2 years

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FAN THEORY THURSDAY: Six DARK Megamind Theories

"Imagine the most horrible, terrifying, evil thing you can possibly think of and multiply it… BY SIX!"

Yes! It’s Thursday again! And you know what that means: I have to say it. You know I do. SPOILER WARNING!

Megamind might be an animated family film, but that doesn’t mean all the fan theories it’s spawned are pure sunshine and daisies. In fact, a few are the opposite. As its name suggests, some ideas in this post will be fairly dark. Nothing will be graphic, of course, but nonetheless, please pay attention to the warnings below. Without further ado, let’s get in touch with our villainous sides and get started!

Has Megamind Killed Before?

Trigger warning for violence and death.

Near the beginning of the movie, Megamind has accrued eighty-five life sentences. While some fans argue that this could be due to the justice system’s unfairly harsh treatment of him—they did allow a child to be raised in a prison, after all, so clearly there’s corruption—others insist that a person simply doesn’t earn that kind of wrap sheet without shedding blood. And the concept is more than mere speculation; there are several pieces of evidence that might support it.

The first, and perhaps most obvious, proof is the simple fact that people are terrified of Megamind. When he shows up in a restaurant, during his date with Roxanne, other patrons literally start screaming. They’re not the only ones who feared the former villain, either. As I’ve mentioned before in the article The Warden, Demishock’s wonderful blog post transcribes one of the newspaper clippings seen at the beginning of the film Hometown Boy Makes Bad. In it, we learn that “experienced, hardened criminals in [the prison] are afraid of him” and that, as a grade-school child, he is “isolated from the general population [of inmates] for the protection of the adults.” This may indicate that Megamind is dangerous. Although he clearly avoids hurting people unnecessarily, if all he ever did was vandalize and steal he’d likely be viewed as an annoying delinquent rather than an actual threat.

Next, we have his De-Gun. (I’ve touched on this before in both Who is the Real Megamind Part Two and in Megamind’s Inventions, so I’ll be brief.) Sources such as Fandom.com point out that, if you slow down images of the weapon and look closely, you’ll see that it has eight settings: Dehydrate, Decompress, Debilitate, Demoralize, Decoupage, Deregulate, Destroy, and Death Ray. That’s right: Death Ray. Why would the blue man invent a lethal setting if he never intended to use it? Of course, this doesn’t mean he’s a bloodthirsty maniac—in fact, the DVD commentary makes it clear that he goes out of his way not to harm others—but it’s quite possible that he’ll use violence when he must.

Another fan theory connects with this as well. Many believe that Megamind, during his supervillain days (and possibly even afterward) controlled all organized crime and other villains in Metro City. In one of the storyboards that was ultimately left out of the film, while Megamind has laid claim to the mayor’s office as the new Evil Overlord, a group of lesser supervillains approach him and essentially ask for permission to go on a crime spree. Why would they do such a thing unless they were answerable to the blue man and unless he kept tabs on who was committing illegal acts locally? Indeed, this in itself offers some slight support for the idea that Megamind is not above violence when he feels it’s unavoidable. If he did, in fact, rule the city’s underworld, it would mean keeping tight reigns on some incredibly dangerous individuals, many of whom might not share his distaste for bloodshed. Frankly, a person simply couldn’t control a criminal empire and an entire group of preternaturally-powered villains unless they were both willing and able to back up their threats. So, while he may not like taking life, and may treat it as a dire last resort, it seems that he might do it when needed. And judging by his number of life sentences, it’s quite possible that he has.

Does Roxanne Ritchi Have a Dark Side?

Many might argue that Roxanne is, in many ways, the only major character in the film who seems to be generally good from start to finish, but others disagree. Two camps exist on this subject, one claiming that Roxanne clearly has a good heart and has her act together, the other claiming that there may be something less wholesome lurking beneath the surface. In fact, I’ve heard it said that there appear to be some odd discrepancies in her behavior that may, possibly, point toward the woman having a secret side.

Essentially, the fan theory is this: Roxanne knew Megamind was “Bernard” almost from the start, but chose to pretend otherwise, possibly in order to manipulate him. That may sound somewhat far-fetched—and I certainly had my doubts at first—but it may not be as unbelievable as it initially seems. To begin with, the reporter is clearly attracted to Megamind, as can be seen in their moment of flirty banter during the kidnapping scene. (In fact, a line that was later removed portrayed Roxanne telling Megamind-as-Bernard that Metroman was not her type because she preferred brains over brawn.) Therefore, it’s not impossible that she might have knowingly gone out with the villain if she could do so without risking her reputation and career.

Next, consider this: Roxanne is supposed to be extremely intelligent. Not as ingenious as the blue man, perhaps, but very astute nonetheless. In the original script, she is an investigative reporter who originally comes to Megamind’s notice because she is always trying to discover the location of his secret Lair and learn what he’s planning. During the film’s kidnapping scene, she uses her “nosy reporter skills” to get information out of Minion and quickly deduces that they are (apparently) in the abandoned observatory. She finds the supervillain’s hideout and, later in the movie, decodes his plans to reveal that he’s created a new nemesis. When Megamind comes to her for help, he calls her “the smartest person I know.” Indeed, her intelligence seems to be part of what has attracted the blue alien to her in the first place. Roxanne is obviously far from stupid.

So how, some fans ask, could someone with such mental prowess be fooled into thinking Megamind is Bernard? After all, she’s familiar with both men. Miss Ritchi has clearly interacted with the Metroman Museum curator before—she recognizes him when she meets him after hours—and she’s been regularly abducted by Megamind for years.

Why does that matter? Keep in mind that the blue man didn’t have time to record Bernard speaking before he used the De-Gun and holowatch to assume his identity. Furthermore, the reporter clearly recognizes her serial kidnapper's voice; when she hears him in the museum, her expression turns suspicious before she goes to investigate. Consider as well that, as she’s at least acquainted with Bernard, and likely knows Megamind better, she would be familiar with both men’s features and personalities. This has led some to propose that she must have realized something was amiss. Surely she’d notice that Bernard’s brown eyes were suddenly bright green? That his jaded personality had instantly become awkwardly emotional and cheerfully enthusiastic? That his voice had abruptly changed to that of the top local supervillain? After all, she'd spoken to the real Bernard mere moments before. Many also feel that she obviously heard everything Megamind said over the phone when she found his Lair. If she could hear him calling Minion a “dim-witted creation of science,” how could she not also hear him shout: “how did she find my hideout?!” A number of fans, therefore, feel that it’s nearly impossible she wasn’t aware exactly who she was dating.

The question now, of course, becomes why. Why would she become romantically involved with a supervillain? Stockholm Syndrome, while possible, is an unlikely explanation. According to a website discussing psychological treatments and issues, PsychoTreat, the FBI database shows that only about eight percent of hostages develop the disorder, and those who do usually refuse to cooperate with rescue efforts. Since Roxanne shows no unwillingness to be saved by Metroman, this doesn’t seem to apply to her. So why then? One of the main suppositions is that she wants to change Megamind for the better. Indeed, it could be argued that when, during one of her reports, she asks: “has someone tamed this monster?” she is indirectly referring to herself. Insightful and intelligent as she is, and as much time as she’d spent with the blue alien, perhaps she’d seen what others didn’t: that he really was a good person underneath. However, positive though her intentions might have been, they do not change the fact that, if this is true, she was purposefully manipulating him.

If Roxanne knew who he was all along, however, then why would she seem so angry and surprised when Megamind’s true identity was revealed? Fans have theories about that as well. The first is that it was expected. He was a supervillain and she was not only a damsel but also a recognizable television reporter. If she had simply shrugged it off and said that she knew who she was kissing, it could have potentially damaged her career and her social life beyond repair. The second is that the illusion was shattered in more ways than one. Think of it like a person who knows, deep down, that their spouse is having an affair but has never been confronted with evidence. A surprising number of people will remain in such a relationship so long as they can pretend the issue away. However, while it’s possible to ignore things that remain mere concepts, having one’s proverbial nose shoved in hard facts is an entirely different matter. The third possible reason is that she was projecting. If indeed Roxanne was lying to manipulate Megamind, she may have felt guilty, and becoming angry at him when his own lie was revealed may have been a way of alleviating that guilt and shifting the blame.

Indeed, another similar fan theory suggests that such manipulation was, perhaps, not entirely new to the woman. In fact, according to a CBR article by Robert Vaux, it has been conjectured by some that Roxanne may have volunteered to be kidnapped. We know that she obviously isn’t afraid of Megamind, and is categorically convinced he won’t actually harm her. We also know that she and Metroman apparently allowed the city to believe they were a couple when, in fact, they’d never dated. What if, believing that the blue villain needed someone to regularly act as bait, the two conspired to make him think Roxanne was Metroman’s girlfriend, making her an obvious target and thus ensuring normal citizens were less likely to be traumatized by villainous attacks?

I’ll be honest, I’m still can’t say that I’m convinced by either of these fan theories, but I have to admit that they're certainly interesting. There is some evidence, at least, for those who wish to adopt them.

Is Megamind’s Lair a Murder Scene?

Once again, this section contains triggers for violence and death.

This next fan theory relates back to the first one concerning the former supervillain’s possibly violent past. During the scene involving Roxanne’s discovery of Megamind’s hideout, there is a small but very intriguing detail visible in the surrounding abandoned lot. For just a moment, we can see a single car sitting there, and upon closer inspection, it is a very interesting vehicle indeed.

At a glance, it appears to simply be an old, rusty car, but, apparently, a few fans see more. Firstly, the rather square front, narrow aerodynamic back, and sleek two-door sides look almost identical to a 1970 Chevelle SS or AMC AMX. This is significant because, in good condition, both of those vehicles can sell today for $30,000 to $45,000. Of course, that’s the same as many current models you might find at a dealership, but keep in mind that, unlike new vehicles, classic cars are often sold by individuals and therefore usually cannot be financed. Instead, they typically have to be purchased outright. Secondly, the vehicle appears to have a large dent in the roof and scorch marks up one side. Clearly, something has happened.

It is possible that this may simply be an old automobile of Megamind’s. After all, the invisible car is a modified 1950 Hudson Hornet, so he clearly likes hot rods, and Metroman’s super-strength and laser vision could certainly produce both the body damage and the external burns. Perhaps the vehicle is simply worse for wear after a long-previous battle.

Some point out, however, that this explanation doesn’t seem to fit what we know about the blue man. Both his invisible car, (when stealth mode is not engaged,) and his hoverbike always appear to be clean and highly polished. This is clearly someone who takes care of his vehicles. Furthermore, whether because he simply prefers to reuse and recycle despite running a multi-million dollar criminal empire—as many fans believe—or because he isn’t wealthy and often has to use whatever he can—as the DVD commentary suggests—Megamind often uses scraps and components to build machines. Even if the automobile was beyond repair, it seems extremely uncharacteristic of the former villain to not salvage as much as possible. So why would it be left, more or less whole, outside his hideout?

Solving that riddle is a bit difficult because it raises several other questions: who did the vehicle belong to if not the blue alien, why is it in the condition it’s in, and what happened to the owner? To answer the first, we have to consider who would be living in a seedy part of an urban center, surrounded by empty factory buildings and dockyards, and yet be able to spend up to $45,000 on a car in one go. The most obvious candidate, of course, would be someone who is associated with a criminal organization and earns a reasonably significant amount of money thereby. And, as already mentioned, many fans believe that all such organizations were under Megamind’s control during his villainous days. (You can read more about that theory in The Not So Evil Overlord.)

This may even fit with the specific auto in question. Although car chassis aren’t nearly as bulletproof as movies would have you believe—Mythbusters actually tested it during their 2004 season—advances in metallurgy and the addition of reinforced side impact bars make certain 1970’s vehicles somewhat more protective. If a person realistically thought they might be shot at, but couldn't afford an armored sedan—such as the Audi A8 L Security or the Mercedes-Benz S680 Guard, both of which sell for over $600,000—then a 1970’s muscle car might not be a terrible second choice. At the very least, it would have to be a better option than a modern vehicle with a fiberglass body.

Relatively bullet-resistant though such an auto might be, however, I seriously doubt it would fair well against, say, the blue villain’s spider bot. Yes, you read that correctly; some fans suggest that it was Megamind who attacked the vehicle and its occupant. The damaged coupe is outside his Lair, after all, and he certainly owns doom devices and weapons capable of creating the damage we see. (Besides that, consider that Titan, who shared Metroman’s strength, punched through the invisible car’s door, so it’s reasonable to assume that Metroman would have done more than dent a body panel.)

Now we have only two mysteries remaining: the whereabouts of the owner and the reason for the vehicle being left in situ. That’s where this fan theory turns dark. Essentially, it’s this: some mid-level person in Megamind’s criminal empire approached the villain's hideout, possibly with plans to usurp him, and faced his wrath as a result. What happened then? Did the would-be assassin leap from the car and flee? Wouldn’t it have made more sense to drive off than to run? Besides that, many may wonder why, if that is was the case, the then-villain would have simply left the car where it was. Wouldn’t it have been more practical to dismantle it and use the material for his own inventions? Taking it for himself and literally making it his own would certainly send a message to the owner.

Unless, of course, said owner was dead. While watching the movie with a friend, she pointed out that, if Megamind had killed the intruder, it would make sense for him to leave the vehicle as a sort of warning about what happens to people who attacked the Master of All Villainy. I admit, that would doubtlessly act as a very convincing deterrent. Indeed, that’s exactly what some fans believe may have happened, and the idea seems plausible. Was some minor crime boss or other foolish enough to challenge Megamind, and did they pay the ultimate price in the end? Your guess is as good as mine.

Was Titan Even Worse Than We Thought?

Trigger warnings for sexual assault and violence.

To be perfectly honest, I debated whether or not to include this one. It is frankly pretty disturbing, but I’ve seen it appear in enough discussions and fanfictions that I felt it had to be mentioned. So here it goes. We all know that Hal/Titan is a truly bad guy in every sense of the term, but one incredibly dark theory suggests that he may be much worse than many of us realized.

Of course, even before gaining superpowers, Hal is a creepy stalker who regularly harasses his coworker, but, afterward, he becomes positively evil. As I’ve mentioned several times already—and you’re probably getting tired of hearing me say it—Megamind may be capable of violence when it’s necessary, but Titan seems to revel in it. Furthermore, while there is evidence that the blue man tries to avoid hurting people, and whether or not he ever has is open for debate, Titan most definitely does kill. Worse still, he does so essentially because he’s pitching a fit.

In the film, immediately following his first battle with Megamind, Hal clearly intends to end the blue man’s life with his laser vision. He even says that he plans to put the alien genius in the morgue. Shortly afterward, when Megamind has ejected from his battle mech and been rescued by his brainbots, Titan gives chase, causing a sixteen-wheeler hauling what is apparently gasoline to crash and explode. It’s highly unlikely that the driver of that truck survived, and it’s quite possible that others were killed as well. Then, of course, the superpowered menace uses his laser vision to burn the word “Tightenville” across Metro City, leaving huge swathes of fiery destruction through densely-populated areas. People almost certainly died. Indeed, that obviously wasn’t Hal’s only act of arson as, even before that scene, Megamind fears that Titan will “destroy the whole city,” and we can see smoke rising from parts of the skyline while the blue hero and Roxanne are driving toward Metroman’s hideout. In short, it is unimaginable that no lives were lost, and I have to wonder just how many people suffered for no better reason than Hal being a man-child rage-monster.

That may not be his only sickening crime, however. Some fans have speculated about what happened between the time that Titan backs Roxanne Ritchi against the news van and the scene when he has her tied on top of Metro Tower. After all, Hal not only desires the woman but also feels entitled to her, and it’s undeniable that he has no qualms about taking whatever he wants. Yes, I know that’s a horrifying thought, but we have to admit that it’s a possibility. Especially considering that assault of that kind is, in the end, always about power rather than lust, and Hal seems to be addicted to power.

If such an idea makes your stomach queasy, like it does mine, take heart: other fans disagree with this supposition. They argue that, as Titan displays a complete lack of empathy and only dubious control over his powers, Roxanne would have likely been seriously injured or worse if such a thing had taken place. Beyond that, it should also be remembered that Hal feels he is owed not just Roxanne’s body but also her affection. He may well have wanted to own her completely and, realizing he couldn’t, decided to kill her instead. Basically, he feels that if he can’t have her no one should. Nonetheless, both theories have equal merit, so it’s a fifty-fifty toss-up as to which is most accurate.

Was Megamind Purposefully Forced Into Villainy?

Trigger warnings for bullying and psychological abuse

Of course, we all know that Megamind embraces villainy and Metroman pursues heroism beginning in school. Is there, however, more to it than that? In a YouTube video called Megamind: A City of Deception, The Theorizer addresses some fascinating and potentially tragic details of the film.

The first one is, in truth, less a detail and more a glaring oddity. Why would any presumably sane society allow an infant to be raised in a prison? Why were convicted criminals allowed control over his care and education? A part of the reason may, of course, simply be the DreamWorks team’s desire to create a comically overblown version of an origin story, but even by the standards of animated films, this seems rather strange.

Stranger still is the school Megamind is sent to. It’s a one-room building with, apparently, a single class. Despite there being only a dozen students—a bizarrely small academic organization for any urban area—the only two known aliens in Metro City just happen to attend. Then there’s both the location and the name. Not only does the school appear to be a mere block away from the prison, which is unusual in itself, but both facilities share suspiciously similar appellations: The Metro City Prison for the Criminally Gifted and the L’il Gifted School for Li’l Gifted Kids. While it’s true that both are a spoof on X-Men comics, the question of why they are so alike still remains.

Indeed, I can take The Theorizer’s supposition about the school one step further: after Megamind leaves the academy behind, apparently for good, Metroman is allowed to simply keep the building. This would mean that the Li’l Gifted School must have closed down after the blue man stopped attending, which may indicate that Megamind’s presence there was its sole purpose.

Whether or not that’s accurate, two things are clear: Metroman was a bully as a child, while Megamind was both ostracized and punished whenever he tried to do something positive or defended himself. In fact, Wayne Scott—which is generally accepted at Metroman’s legal name as it appears in the original script—seems to be encouraged to bully his blue classmate. (The other children seem to face no negative consequences for excluding or hurting him, either.) Although most teachers would try to curtail one student acting as a disciplinarian to another Ms. Jane Doe—she is actually called that, which is suspicious in itself—actually rewards him with gold star stickers and praise. (Here I would like to mention that, as a grown hero, Metroman’s uniforms include star details and gold accents. This is almost certainly on purpose.) Furthermore, rather than trying to promote diversity acceptance within the classroom, she appears to embolden others’ ostracization of Megamind, allowing him be left out while other students sing together and, in a photo, even posing behind the majority of the class while blue alien stands apart with a sad, forced smile on his face.

I think a blog post on the Megamind’s Destiny Tumblr page may say it best:

Megamind was assigned to the role of villain at birth. He did everything that he could to tear himself away from that position, and aimed to become the exact opposite. This resulted continuously in abuse and punishment.

Why would anyone do all of this to a child? One more classroom detail, pointed out in the aforementioned video, may hint at the explanation. In the background, during the popcorn scene, we can observe a crayon drawing of a yellow school bus. That’s not unusual in itself, but one figure depicted in the vehicle certainly is. It appears to depict the Warden as he looked during Megamind’s youth. Naturally, it seems utterly nonsensical for a prison official to be associated with a school… unless, of course, the two facilities are connected.

That is precisely what this fan theory suggests. Realizing that they had a dangerous bully on their hands—one possessing inhuman strength and laser vision—concerned city officials conspired with Metroman’s adopted parents to push young Wayne into heroism so that he could have a relatively safe outlet for his powers and his aggression. A superhero, however, needs a villain to fight, and it's been supposed that that is where Megamind came into the plot.

The idea is certainly plausible. Without doubt, Lord and Lady Scott would have had the finances and influence to open a small private school, while local politicians and prison authorities could have seen to it that Megamind was kept in jail and sent to class with his future nemesis. Indeed, ensuring the boys would be foes may have been exactly the point. As discussed in How Strong is Megamind, the blue man is clearly far more durable and physically powerful than he appears. That along with his intelligence and his status as an outsider made him a perfect candidate for Wayne's nemesis. Thus Metroman was conditioned to seek public adulation and taught that his blue-skinned peer was an acceptable target for bullying. At the same time, Megamindwas manipulated into believing that he was naturally bad and “destined to become a supervillain.” Wayne Scott was given both a lifelong craving for applause as well as a focus for his antagonism while Megamind was pushed into the role of his “evil” adversary.

Was “Space Dad” Based on a Real Person?

This last fan theory comes from a discussion on Reddit in which a user suggested that Megamind’s Space Dad disguise might be less innocent than it seems. This concept hinges on three basic facts. The first is that every other time we see Megamind’s holowatch used, he employs a likeness scanned from a living person. It is quite possible that any other source—a photograph or an image on television, for example—would not produce the same three-dimensional, realistic effect. (Not to mention that, as the scan function apparently captures all angles of a subject with a single sweep, using a flat image would likely result in a holographic projection with no back, or in an illusionary TV walking down the road.)

The second is that Space Dad is the only disguise which is edged in blue light, indicating that something is certainly different. What might that be? How could Megamind have possibly scanned a glowing person? That answer may lay in the third fact: Space Dad is obviously a spoof on Marlon Brando’s portrayal of Superman’s father, who, as most of you likely know, only appears to the DC hero in the form of a hologram. Because Metroman is clearly based on Superman, that has led several fans to speculate that something similar may have occurred in the film Megamind. It’s possible that Metroman, like his comic book counterpart, was sent to Earth with a hologram of his father intended to teach and guide him. However, in this case, it may have been his nemesis, not the hero himself, who discovered and learned to operate the device. And a three-dimensional hard light hologram might be scanned with the holowatch much like an actual person. It would explain the bright nimbus around the illusion.

Why, you may ask, would the blue man have bothered scanning it at all? While using the image of Metroman’s dead father in a plot would undoubtedly be effective, it would also be cruel, and Megamind, despite being a villain, clearly does not possess such callousness. There is, however, another possible reason. Some fans speculate that, being a super-genius, the blue man would have surely recognized how perilous Wayne might be. Like the previous theory, this concept suggests that someone took action to prevent that, however in this case that someone is Megamind himself. Could he have used the image of Metroman’s parent, much as he did with Titan, to convince the other he needed to become a hero and fight the self-proclaimed Master of All Villainy? Did Megamind, in short, willingly submit to a life of loneliness and rejection, turning himself into the proverbial monster in the shadows in order to give Metroman an enemy to focus on and thus keep other people safe? If so, then the blue man was a hero all along.

And that’s it! Six dark fan theories surrounding the animated movie Megamind! All of them are definitely interesting to consider, and as a group they offer enough angst and drama for anyone. I hope everyone reading this has enjoyed it, even if, perhaps, we may never look at our favorite characters in quite the same way again.

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rossispastababy · 3 years

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Dean: I’m sure we’d all like to know what you plan to do with this world.

Chuck: Good question... glad you asked that. Imagine... the most horrible, terrifying, evil thing you can possibly think of. And multiply it — by six! In the meantime, I want you to carry on with whatever you were doing, normal things that people do. And I will get back to you!

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cardboardhydrate-sentry-station · 4 years

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Papyrus and Megamind -- Similarities

There’s no reason for this post other than because I was watching Megamind again and noticed the dude has a striking resemblance to Papyrus (also thanks to @blastlight for bearing with my spamming of her DMs):

Put on a show to make an impression, whether good or bad

No malicious intent -- simply just two goofy theatre kids

Appreciate/crave attention, whether good or bad (Papyrus from the general public; Megamind from an audience)

Cunning (e.g. Papyrus tricking Undyne into befriending Frisk, Megamind transforming into Metro Man to distract Titan while Minion saves Roxanne -- which he should get more credit for, btw, holy shit)

Their use of tactics (e.g. Papyrus sending a surprise bone attack just as you think he is finished during his fight; and Megamind switching between himself and his Bernard disguise in the secret hideout to both try and cover his tracks, and impress Roxanne)

Self-created nicknames that indicate superiority (i.e. The Great Papyrus, and Megamind)

Striving to become something they can never truly be (i.e. Papyrus can’t be in the Royal Guard due to his refusal to kill; and Megamind can’t be a true villain outside of the facade outside of the facade he puts on in front of an audience, because he was never an evil person to begin with)

Love for spikes (Papyrus lamenting over Asgore’s desire to ban the use of spikes in puzzles; Megamind’s outfits always featuring spikes)

And, on the topic of outfits, both of them sport cool costumes which relate to the character they’re attempting to play (Papyrus as the “cool guy” with his battle body, and Megamind as the “supervillain” with his usual suit and the Black Mamba)

Special interests (i.e. puzzles for Papyrus, and inventions for Megamind)

Their mathematical abilities (e.g. Papyrus: “The Internet! I’m quite popular there! I’m just a dozen away... from a double digit follower count!” Megamind: “Imagine the most horrible, terrifying, evil thing you can possibly think of... and multiply it... by six!”

...despite this, being highly intelligent (e.g. Papyrus with his puzzles, and Megamind with his dehydration gun)

Their unusual use of language (both of them making up words (Papyrus with “slightly bonetrousled” and Megamind with “poppet corn”; Papyrus misusing grammar -- “You didn’t do a violence!”; Megamind mispronouncing words -- “’ollo” for “hello”)

...but it’s also eloquent (Papyrus: “re-calibrating”, “administer”; Megamind: “amass”, “extravagant”)

Their self-absorbed attitudes (which are weirdly charming)

Misinterpreting people, whether on purpose or by accident (e.g. Frisk, about Papyrus: “What a loser.” Papyrus: “Huh? Why would you... berate yourself so loudly???”; Roxanne: “You know, there’s an apology in order for the other night [for you tricking me into dating you].” Megamind: “Okay, that would be nice, but make it quick.”)

Feel free to add to this list!

#undertale #megamind #papyrus #idk what to tag this as #comparisons #?#idk #big-ass list of useless information #there we go

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lovelytonys · 5 years

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100 great things about megamind

basically i just watched megamind and wrote down everything that made me go “hey that’s good”

1. The opening monologue slaps I literally do not care about your “cliches” it’s GOOD

2. “8 days old and still living with my parents...pathetic right?”

3. The idea that Megamind is inherently good since his origin story should have been his dad saying he’s destined for “greatness” but the greatness got cut off uwu

4. Literally just the fact that Megamind was about to go to the Rich Nice House and his destiny changed at the last second,,,everything about this movie makes it a cinematic masterpiece

5. “A baby! How thoughtful!” “yes yes I saw it and thought of you”

6. “While they were learning the itsy bitsy spider I was learning how to dehydrate objects and rehydrate them at will”

7. When you hear the Bad to the Bone guitar riff kick in,,,,,,heck yeah babey!!

8. J.K Simmons is here! yeah!

9. Will Ferrell’s voice acting is literally SO darn good like even just from the beginning,,, the funny affectation of whatever kind of accent that is,,,,,the expressiveness of literally everything he says,,,,,I’m not actively a fan of Will Ferrell or anything but he just did a good job ok

10. “His heart is an ocean inside a bigger ocean”

11. Idk why but I just love the phrase “you fantastic fish you”

12. Metro Man is such a fun character. Like. A hero who shouldn’t be a hero, but he just….is one? Someone who’s idol-worshipped and, despite his grandeur, doesn’t exactly deserve it?

13. MEGAMIND’S CHARACTER DESIGN IS LITERALLY SO GOOD like the vivid colors of his skin and eyes? His COSTUME? His hilarious proportions, between the giant head and the skinny & scrawny everything else? Superb, you funky little alien

14. All dialogue between Megamind and Minion is god tier by default

15. The twist on “damsel in distress” where yeah the girl gets kidnapped but she is so not distressed and has the intellectual power in the situation as she roasts Megamind at every turn and he can’t combat anything she says

16. “Oh potato tomato potato tomato”

17. “I’m shaking in my BABY SEAL LEATHER BOOTS”

18. THE ENTIRE EXCHANGE BETWEEN MEGAMIND AND METRO MAN ABOUT JUSTICE AND REVENGE AND THE MICROWAVE OF EVIL AND WARRANTIES

19. “Can someone stamp my frequent kidnapping card” “You of all people know that we discontinued that”

20. The way this movie manages to SO effectively establish character while diving right into the action and keeping with a fun, fast pace? The world & characters are set up incredibly well AND the start of the journey/ “break into the new world” hits at a brisk 20 minutes? Lovely work, Dreamworks

21. When Highway to Hell kicks in with the lasers and Megamind dancing at the police,,,,,this is nothing short of priceless

22. “Imagine the most horrible terrifying evil thing you could possibly think of and multiply it…..BY SIX”

23. When you’re a supervillain who takes over the city and you say “let’s just have fun with this” to the citizens

24. *whispering behind the door* “now slam the door really hard!” *snickering like a 12 year old girl* “move they can still see you”

25. “Did you think this day would come?” “No, no not in a million years, not ever...I mean yes”

26. “That’s called a window, sir. All the kids are looking through them”

27. Crazy Train is SUCH a nice touch, the fade into Alone Again Naturally is great. The use of music in this movie is absolutely A+, MEGAMIND DID IT FIRST AND GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY AIN’T SPECIAL (jk gotg you’re so special ily)

28. The images of Megamind’s destruction & deterioration of the city are so creative and funny

29. *to a desk toy bird* “What’s your vacuum like?”

30. “GOING OFF THE RAILS ON A CRAZY TRAIN SIR”

31. Haven’t yet mentioned how lovely the animation of Megamind’s face is! Every single frame, he’s so expressive

32. Mispronunciation of words like “school”, “Metro City”, and “melancholy”

33. This voice cast in general is so good like it’s not just big names phoning it in for an animated movie, they’re fully into it

34. Real Bernard doesn’t get much screen time but he’s hilarious

35. “Typhoon Cheese”, whatever that was gonna be

36. The juxtaposition in body language & facial expression between Real Bernard and Megamind Bernard,,,,,actually just the way Megamind’s physicality is transferred to the other characters he disguises himself as. Great stuff

37. Megamind’s off-the-walls high energy is so fun and electric

38. “This is a bad idea” “yes, a good idea for the greater good of bad” “maybe it seems good from your bad perception but from a good perception it’s just plain bad” “oh you don’t know what’s good for bad”

39. Ollo? Oh, hello

40. “I’m just yelling at my…..mother’s urn”

41. Megamind and Minion just saying “code” before things that aren’t in code. This movie is so good with its running gags, they don’t feel like “oh haha they used that joke again!” they feel like inside jokes between the characters I love it

42. Megamind fighting himself as Bernard while complimenting himself, COMEDY GOLD

43. The various occurrences of random life-altering things happening on a whim to the wrong people, like Hal getting the superpowers and earlier Metro Man being molded into a hero and Megamind landing in prison as a baby

44. The forget me stick

45. Space Dad and Space Stepmom

46. Every character Megamind inhabits always retains Megamind’s eyes

47. MR BLUE SKY PLAYING OVER HAL’S DISASTROUS TRAINING SEQUENCE AND THE FALLING IN LOVE SEQUENCE THAT INCLUDES DONKEY KONG AND MEGAMIND WEIRDLY TEXTING ON A FLIP PHONE (gotgv2 who? Don’t know her)

48. Roxanne’s positive influence making Megamind genuinely want to make the city better uwu

49. ROXANNE AND METRO MAN WERE NEVER A COUPLE! Lovely trope subversion

50. Tropes in this movie in general are so fun. This isn’t some uninspired genre parody. They don’t just subvert tropes in the exact way that you’d expect. I feel like the way that this movie plays with the superhero genre often feels unique and creative

51. Bernard’s character design kind of slaps tbh. The turtleneck, the hair, the glasses, all very nice

52. When Hal calls Roxanne “a really good looking one I’ve got my eye on” like she’s meat or something as opposed to Megamind valuing her personality…..makes ya think u know

53. T h e b l a c k m a m b a a a a a

54. “Maybe I don’t want to be the bad guy anymore!” and Megamind & Minion’s subsequent falling out that served as a precursor to the disastrous date with Roxanne- it happens pretty much exactly halfway through the movie. Some people look down upon following structure to a T, but sometimes it’s satisfying when a movie perfectly follows structure and this movie’s structure is flawless

55. “Good luck on your date” “I will” “That doesn’t even make any sense” “I know”

56. Right after fighting w Minion when Megamind looks in a cracked mirror and frowns at his reflection but then changes into someone else, into Bernard, and then smiles? THE CINNAMON TOGROPHY, THE STORYTELLING

57. When Hal is just an incel whose feeling of entitlement is framed as disgusting and he’s not supposed to be sympathetic and Roxanne’s rejection of him is not framed as evil but rather completely justified? VERY epic of them, this movie would have SMASHED the pop culture scene if it came out today

58. The GRAVITY of the part when Roxanne accidentally reveals Megamind in the restaurant is so powerful that I can STILL barely watch it even though I’ve seen it so many times

59. The part that immediately follows where Roxanne shuts down Megamind is SO well done. Roxanne is giving out some harsh words to our dear protagonist, but she is not framed as the bad guy. The great thing about this scene is that they let Roxanne call out Megamind on how he’s been a jerk and she gets to be RIGHT. How very cash money of them! The emotion here isn’t anger at Roxanne because she’s ~being mean~ to Megamind. It’s a sting over the fact that she’s right, and the heartbreak over the dramatic irony of us knowing that Megamind is becoming a better person and Roxanne having no idea. Now Megamind is left with a decision that will show who he truly is on the inside: he could either retreat back into safe, evil ways for the rest of time because it’s easier to be bad because then no one expects anything from him and rejection is easier to handle, or he could ultimately choose to grow from this and recognize how he was wrong and how he has to change. The execution of this midpoint is exemplary.

60. “Do you really think I’d ever be with you?” “....no” the delivery of those lines is so good

61. “You were right! I was….less right!”

62. The Black Mamba is a god tier costume and the fact that it has its own theme song in the score makes it at least 6x better

63. WHEN BACK IN BLACK KICKS IN YEAAAHHHH (Iron Man who? Don’t know her) (Iron Man was already out at this point but how fun is it that this movie used TWO iconic mcu songs)

64. Megamind in the giant suit playing with cars

65. Hal SUCKS I love how much the movie wants you to hate him

66. The difference between Megamind and Hal/Titan/Tighten is so interesting to watch. How Megamind is the self-proclaimed “bad guy” but he’s not even out to do serious damage & it’s just a game to him, while Hal is out for blood but was created to be a hero

67. “Now it’s time for witty banter” “AAAAAAAAA” “I’m not really sure where to go with that”

68. “I’M CALLING A TIME OUT”

69. Twisting the Kryptonite trope by having Metro Man make up the copper weakness

70. “Does he have a hideout? A cave? A solitary fortress?” lol I understood that reference

71. “OW! MY GIANT BLUE HEAD!”

72. Metro Man’s confession scene is so good. Really, how often do you get a hero who feels that he was forced into being a hero? That’s usually a villain trope. Does the hero ever realize he doesn’t want to be a hero….and actually quit FOR GOOD? Again, the trope subversion is awesome

73. “I have eyes that can see right through leaaaaaaaad” that’s my favorite song

74. “You left the city to HIM! No offense” “no I’m with you”

75. “There’s a yin for every yang. If there’s bad, good will rise up against it.”

76. “I say we just go all GANGSTA on him” ms tina fey i would die for you

77. Megamind turns himself in to the police, the fact that he willingly submits himself to the punishment of being a villain at this point is a lovely and stirring way of showing the sense of justice he has deep down and showing his character development

78. When Roxanne gives Megamind a desperate & compassionate pep talk over live tv no matter what it means for her reputation :*))

79. When Megamind has 88 life sentences

80. “I. Am. Sorry!” *dramatically slides down door*

81. Megamind’s heartfelt and regretful admission of all his mistakes that brings his character arc to a head? Lovely

82. “Good luck” “WE’RE GONNA D I E! Hahahaha!”

83. “There is no Easter bunny, there is no tooth fairy, and there is no queen of England.”

84. MEGAMIND’S EPIC ENTRANCE BY COMING OUT OF HIS OWN MOUTH

85. “Oh you’re a villain alright. Just not a super one.” “Oh yeah? What’s the difference?”

86. P R E S E N T A T I O N

87. METRO MAN THUNDER CALVES

88. Again with the green eyes continuity! Love that!

89. “Going somewhere? Besides jail?” *flies in a fancy pose*

90. When Megamind is ready to let everyone think Metro Man is back but Roxanne wants to see the real hero :*))

91. “This is the last time you make a fool out of me!” “I made you a hero, you did the fool thing all by yourself” SICK BURN

92. “There’s a benefit to losing. You get to learn from your mistakes”

93. WHEN THE DEHYDRATION GUN COMES IN CLUTCH

94. Minion being a drama queen lol comedy peaked in 2010

95. Minion’s Little Face

96. “GET BACK YOU SAVAGES” “Sorry he’s just not used to positive feedback!”

97. “Destiny is not the path given to us but the path we choose for ourselves”

98. When Megamind gets to parallel Metro Man’s entrance from the beginning of the movie and everyone cheers for him :*)) and he adds his own fun little twist by making a villain joke

99. “Megamind, defender of Metro City” “you know? I like the sound of that!”

100. Name a better villain to hero story. YOU CANNOT. Cinematic excellence. I am never disappointed.

#I DO NOT DESERVE RIGHTS #lovelytonys personal thought

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ykoriana-imperatrix · 4 years

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SDC Four-Sentence Fics, Day 6

To quote Megamind, imagine the most horrible, terrifying, evil thing you can possibly think of, and multiply it by... six. Now, I’m sure that reference is completely unrelated to today’s ficlet... right?

VI. Athase

The entire House lives in terror of her, from the lowliest of her attendants to her own kin. Not even her brother and husband is immune to this fear, as much as They try to hide it. Fear is the gateway to utter loneliness, Mother told her so often, but where did that get her? No, her way is best; isolation is preferable to vulnerability.

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Yet another original character, and an historical one this time, having lived about six centuries before the canon series. Athase and her mother both end up (deliberately) having parallels to Ykoriana, with the latter having been the last woman of the Masks who was subjected to the ancient form of purdah including blinding before her. Ykoriana, however, despite the aura of fear that she herself enables, still has very meaningful, loving bonds with a select few, and it is in that way her and Athase ultimately differ from one another. Young Athase was deeply impacted by her mother’s fate growing up, and was so determined to avoid it for herself she became overreliant in the control (and safety, in her view) being feared brought her. In later eras, she is mostly only remembered for her cruelty; a cautionary tale of sorts.

#stone dance of the chameleon #the stone dance of the chameleon #sdc month 2020 #sdc 4 sentence fics #house of the masks

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fbiartist · 4 years

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@travelledtime liked for a starter.

“Imagine the most horrible, terrifying, evil thing you can possibly think of, and multiply it.. by six!”

#travelledtime

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incorrectavngers · 6 years

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Loki, at a press conference: Look, all I did was eliminate the most powerful group of superhumans in all of Midgard. Are there any questions? Come on! Yes, you in the back.

Darcy: I'm sure we'd all like to know what you plan to do with us and this city.

Loki: Good, I’m glad you asked that. Imagine the most horrible, terrifying, evil thing you can possibly think of and multiply it...by six!

#loki laufeyson #loki the trickster god #loki the god of mischief #darcy lewis #the avengers #incorrectavngers #incorrect avengers quotes #tasertricks #source: megamind

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How would Megamind react if Roxanne turned into one of his kind? Or better, was secretly one of his kind and that's why they get along so well and one day she reveals it and he's like, "haha, nice joke-WHAT." Also, where does Megamind's name, Syx, come from? I'm really curious.

hmmmm...I don’t think Roxanne really turning into / actually being M’ega is really my personal cup of tea, writing-wise. (I’m...not completely certain why? Maybe it’s because I really like the ‘we’re the same but different’ thing the human Roxanne and alien Megamind have. Misfits fitting together? That kind of a thing.)

BUT! I do have a fic on my (very large, very nebulous) to-be-written list that involves sexy disguise watch shenanigans, and Roxanne does use the watch at one point to look like a M’ega version of herself!

Back before I started writing Megamind fic, I read a whole bunch of it, and in several stories by different authors, the text had Megamind’s childhood name as “Syx”.

Because it was found in multiple stories, and some of the content on the LJ com is now gone, I don’t think the fandom is certain of who came up with it originally.

I really liked it, though; it sounded suitably alien, and it makes Megamind’s line in the movie about “imagine the most horrible, terrifying, evil thing you can possibly think of, and then multiply it...by six!” into a dorky pun.

So “Syx” was the first word I decided would be a part of the M’ega language

#megamind #littleagentofsmash

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incorrect-villainous-quotes · 7 years

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Black Hat:Imagine the most horrible, terrifying, evil thing you can possibly think of and multiply it...by six!

#Source:Megamind #Black Hat Villainous #Black hat #Villainous #incorrect villainous quotes

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Liquid: *in front of the entire staff of the Shadow Moses base* First of all, what a turnout! How wild is this, huh? All I did, was take over the most powerful army in the world. Are there any questions? Go on. Yes! You in the back.

Unnamed scientist: I’m sure we’d all like to know what you plan to do with us, and this base.

Liquid: *nervously* Good, I’m glad you asked that. *dramatically* Imagine, the most horrible, terrifying, evil thing you could possibly think of, and multiply it by six!

...

Liquid: In the meantime, I want you all to carry on with the dreary, normal things you normal people do! Let’s just have fun with this, come on. And I will get back to you! *quickly backs out of the room*

Liquid: *to Mantis from outside the room* Now, slam the door really hard. *giggles* They can still see you.

#source: megamind #long text post #metal gear solid #liquid snake

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FAN THEORY THURSDAY: What is Megamind’s Name?

Yes, alright, I know you’re all waiting to hear me say it. SPOILER WARNING!

This may seem like a slightly odd question to explore. I mean, obviously Megamind’s name is Megamind because, well, I literally just called him Megamind, but that is the moniker he chose for himself upon becoming a supervillain. Does the blue alien have a real name, and if so does he know what it is? Does he at least have a legal name? What is it? The bad news is that there’s no definitive answer, but the good news is that fan theories offer some compelling ideas.

The first, and probably most popular, headcanon is that Megamind’s real name is Syx. Featured in multiple fanfictions by several authors, the concept has become widespread in the fandom, yet it sprung from an unlikely and seemingly innocuous detail in the film. During a press conference, when asked by Roxanne what he plans to do with the city he’s taken over, Megamind, clearly at a loss for answers, responds with: “Imagine the most horrible, terrifying, evil thing you can possibly think of, and multiply it by six!”

Many fans felt that this was an odd number to choose. Why six? Most people would have naturally defaulted to a nice, round number with unit digit of 0, like 10 or 100, or at least to the divisor 5. Those are, after all, the numerals that, thanks to being both easy to calculate and the bases for many ancient number systems, tend to pop into mind first. The resulting fan theory is that Megamind must have had a specific reason for choosing the number 6 instead, and many fans agreed that this was because it somehow connected to the only thing the blue man could really claim as wholly and rightfully his own: his name.

There are two major suppositions connected to this idea. The first is that Syx is all or part of the name Megamind’s parents called him. (After all, if, at only eight days old, he could remember details such as his father telling him he was destined for something, he should be able to remember his own name, right?) Some claim that this is his real name, but others, citing the fact that Megamind never actually uses the epithet in the movie, instead theorize that this was more like a pet name. He wouldn’t go around calling himself Syx any more than one of us would call ourselves “Cutie-Pie” or “Little Angel.”

The second is that Syx is another chosen name, one based on either Megamind’s prison number or the Cell Block where he spent his childhood. Both are interesting concepts, but neither has even the most tenuous support from the film or other canon. The back of the blue alien’s prison jumpsuit only displays the word “prisoner” without a number, so we have no way to determine what his prison number actually was. Although it’s clear that Megamind was raised in a different cell than the one he occupied during his brief stays in prison as an adult, and it’s possible that that could have been on Cell Block 6, the number is never shown on the screen, so again, it’s only a guess. In fact, the only cell block we do see clearly associated with Megamind in the movie is Cell Block 9, where his high-tech, ultra-secure cell is located near the beginning of the narrative.

Vying with Syx for the spot of Most Popular Epithet in Megamind Fan Theory is the name Blue. This is something which many agree is more like a nickname, most likely one used only by the former supervillain’s “prison uncles” and, perhaps, a few close friends. When Megamind escapes prison near the start of the film, listen very closely and you will hear something interesting. At nearly the same moment that we hear one prisoner yell: “Hey, Warden!” another inmate says “Hey, Blue!” The origin of the name is obvious, and it’s doubtful whether the alien genius would have reacted well to any but his friends calling him by it, especially back during his villainous days. At any rate, this is obviously not the former villain’s legal name. (That doesn’t stop me from liking it, however.)

Another theory concerning Megamind’s name comes from what Metro Man calls him: Little Buddy. Some fans suppose that this may be what the prisoners who raised Megamind when he was small called him, and that Buddy may have been accepted as his name. Perhaps that is what he called himself for the short time he attended elementary school. After all, it would be better than being known as Nobody or Prisoner Number Whatever. It would also make sense that, as he grew older, the future supervillain would have rejected a moniker that sounded so friendly and cute. It certainly wouldn’t have helped him maintain the tough guy image needed to survive in a jail filled with adult criminals.

Next is a suggested name based once more on an aforementioned small detail from the film. When the Warden is unwittingly disguised by Megamind’s holowatch, at almost the same time a convict yells “Hey, Blue!” a second one calls: “Hey, Lee!” (Again, you have to listen closely for it, but it’s there.) This brings up a important question: who is Lee? Obviously, the prisoners wouldn’t call the top official of the entire facility that, but they might call another prisoner by the name. This, along with the fact that the man shouts “Blue” first, has led to the fan theory that Lee may be part of the name Megamind was assigned as some point, perhaps when he was registered for school.

Finally, we come to what, on the surface, appears to be the most likely and obvious fan theory: Megamind’s legal name is John Doe. This is, after all, a common epithet used for any unknown person, living or dead, throughout much of the United States, where Megamind is supposed to take place. There’s just one problem: Metro City is located in Michigan, and that specific state’s laws differ from the norm. It took some research, but I finally learned what the Michigan State Government does about unnamed children, and the answer is: nothing. That’s right. Nothing. According to the website Today I Found Out, in Michigan, it’s possible for a baby to be given a birth certificate with no name on it, and a name can be submitted later. Not even a surname is required. (This must make life far easier for indecisive parents!) However, due to state and federal regulations, there will come a time when the person must be named, such as if they wish to obtain a drivers’ license or a passport. This is where things get really interesting. If a name is never submitted for a person, it may be possible for them to legally choose one for themselves. This means that Megamind may literally be the blue man’s only moniker, as well as his legal name.

So, in short, the answer to the question “what is Megamind’s real name?” is: we don’t really know. Thanks to the inventiveness of all those who love this film, however, there is a plethora of options to choose from. With so many fan theories, the possibilities are nearly endless. If you can find some sort of evidence, or at least a plausible idea, to back it up, our favorite blue hero’s name can be whatever you want it to be.

#Megamind #fan theory #fan theories #Fan Theory Thursday #Megamind fan theory #Megamind movie #name #real name #Megamind's name #Megamind's real name

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