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comicchannel · 2 months
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DC Multiverse Batman Knightsend Azrael Batman Armor - McFarlane Toys
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robjn93 · 4 months
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i think an important arc that implicitly brings to life the parallels between broken brucebat and azbat is year 3, the one from batman 436 to 439, the one that sets the seeds for the introduction of tim drake, because it creates an interesting comparison between bruce and jpv/azrael at their lowest, both tampering with their 'base of operation' to disrespect the legacy of the inhabitant.
with bruce, for example, his inability to process jason's death got him ridding the manor of any sign of jason's existence and instead fixate on his role as batman. not just the crime fighting side, but the mythos as a whole - to the point where he almost called nightwing 'robin'. hanging onto the mythos that is so important to batman, ignoring bruce's wishes to mourn his own son. he is rejecting bruce’s side completely, the compassionate man who loved his children, and replacing it with the image of the strong, brute batman who pushes everyone bruce has ever loved away.
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for azrael, the need to find an identity and carve his own path on the mythos brought him to desecrate the batcave by introducing a shooting range with batman’s enemies as targets, because jpv has been taught that batman would never kill, making the suit shaped based on azrael’s, a judge and executioner, what batman was never supposed to be, and tarnishing his relationships with robin and commissioner gordon.
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azbat’s relationship with robin is especially interesting because the suit being a symbol of hope could only be achieved by the cloth being used, the circus costume, filled with pain and grief but also sweet memories and hopes for a new life, for dick grayson as ward and helper of bruce and batman. that very suit was now being rejected by azbat, because ‘batman needs a robin but azbat needs nobody’ and, in the same place where dick grayson was shown the light, the suit of batman, for the first time, now tim drake was being nearly choked to death by azbat gone berserk.
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but then there is it. bruce ‘successfully’ manages to witness zucco’s death, what batman has always tried to teach dick against, betraying his robin, the way azbat has finally destroyed tim, showing his 'worthlessness' in the face of the true strength of azbat and kicked him out of the cave, betraying his robin, and their vulnerable side comes out. they shudder at the idea that they might have ever wished for what had happened, clinging onto the morals that become more and more warped and confused, onto their job as batman and their duty to gotham.
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‘taking the cowl off’ was the only thing that could save them, tho with azbat was more literal. in bruce’s case, questioning the usefulness of a batman without a robin was a clear sign that his work was not needed, not in those conditions, that he put a child (tim) in danger because of his own recklessness, therefore ‘taking the power from batman’.
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saint-of-ossaville · 2 months
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Editions of the Knightfall Saga
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wwprice1 · 6 months
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AzBats by Simone Di Meo. Awesome.
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inhousearchive · 2 years
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House-ad for the KnightsEnd event, running throughout DC Comics titles in 1994.
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meteortrails · 1 year
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took a break from Batman to fight with my parents (things are bad! almost drove my car off a bridge but I’m fine now) and went to start reading again and. I completely forgot azreal carbombed Batman lol. I was like wtf is dick so upset about as if he didn’t just watch his dad get caught in an explosion
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poopypeepyp · 15 days
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jean-paul and tim fighting in the batcave is what fandom thinks happened between jason and tim
it's so funny to me that fanfiction version of titans tower incident (teen titans 2003 #29) is basically what canonically happened during knightquest the crusade (tec #668 and robin #1)
tim is actually 14 years old so it was a fight between an actual kid and adult instead of two teenagers
tim is beaten up in his safe place by an ally who he used to have positive feelings about (i mean it was tim who broke in and sneaked around the batcave so i don't blame jpv for self-defense!)
tim is annoyed that he worked so hard to become robin only to be shut down by jean-paul and now having to prove himself to him (didn't go well)
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(detective comics #668/showcase '93 #11)
tim sasses jean-paul
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(detective comics #668/bloodbath special #1)
jean-paul strangles tim lol
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(detective comics #668/robin 1993 #1)
jean-paul intends to kill tim? probably? not really? i mean he kind of threatens to later in knightsend but he is in a silly goofy mood
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(detective comics #677)
jean-paul immediately regrets attacking tim and is very sorry and sad wet cat (tim is not buying it (angsty))
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(robin 1993 #1)
jean-paul is not in full control of himself because of The System
The System is "lazarus pit rage" except it's a religious programming and instead of seeing green jean-paul hallucinates a templar knight telling him to be batman or something
the strangling incident has lasting consequences not only on their relationship but the plot too (tim can't shut up about it)
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(batman #506/#507/#508)
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(catwoman 1993 #31)
tim and dick become closer after that (also dick hates jp's guts lol)
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(showcase '93 #11/#12/detective comics #681)
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(batman: gotham knights #14 the issue is called sibling rivalry btw. you know)
also in his azbats era jean-paul thinks he is so much better and effective than bruceman (while he is actually having a mental breakdown) and bruce feels very responsible for how he fucked up jp's psyche and deems him one of his biggest mistakes (jp and batman angst real)
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(azrael 1995 #1/#2/#36 look at him he's so sad)
after knightsend jean-paul feels very guilty and becomes a better person while struggling with mental health and The System (and fights evil cult that manipulated him with his new friends)
also i personally believe none of this would have happened if tim didn't give jean-paul a bad haircut
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(batman #491)
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scintillyyy · 11 days
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also. i think accusations that bruce became less affectionate because there were no more hugs, piggyback rides, etc etc following jason's death sometimes fail to take into account that it's not that bruce got *less* affectionate it's that bruce's way of displaying affection changed in accordance with *what was considered appropriate levels of affection between men* in the 90s.
bc if you honestly look at the way the relationship that develops between bruce + tim from alpod to knightfall it might not have all the hugs outside of when tim's mom died and it's An Appropriate Time for a Man Hug, but it has smiles and banter and jokes. it has bruce worrying over tim and comforting hands on shoulders. it has bruce sending tim's entire boarding school class across the world to japan *just* to keep tim safe from the joker when he returns. it has bruce racing back to the manor at the thought of alfred and tim in danger there. it has cute nicknames and quiet pride. bruce is still falling in love with every woman who's nice to him for 2 seconds. he doesn't actually start being more of a distant asshole to everyone (not just tim) until the knightfall event and the knightfall event + the breaking of the bat was designed to make him grittier and harsher. and even then *as he's being colder* there's still all for one handshake with dick and tim in knightsend. there's still the worry over tim in contagion and legacy. there's the teasing, loving family moments in gotham knights. honestly if you compare it the amount of affection that tim receives from bruce is similar to and pretty much almost at the level of the affection bruce gives to *dick* during this era (probably not quite as much, but it's very similar in *how* bruce shows affection to both and it is similar in scope).
and it makes sense that they toned down the overt physical affection. they always would have. batman and robin still got constant gay jokes in the 90s as people moved further away from socially acceptable affection between man due to the stigma of homosexuality especially in the 90s following the aids crisis. batman's open affection for robin was *always* going to get toned down.
also if you're trying to sell comics to 14 year old boys, as they were, the last thing they were going to put in was a teenage character being treated with affection that seemed babyish to most teenagers back then. also with the popularity of the batman movies, they were also going to pander to the movie fans who wanted things to be more serious. hugs outside of An Appropriate Solemn Moment were NOT going to fly.
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plutoslvr · 25 days
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which tim drake comics would you recommend reading?? I've started off with lonely place if dying but I'm not entirely sure where to go next
okay im so sorry for taking so long to respond it just kept slipping my mind. but the comics i'd recommend after alpod would be the comics in between that and when tim actually gets to be robin ie, the training months in between. those would be:
new titans #65
batman #448
detective comics #615
batman #449
detective comics # 618 - 621
batman #455 - 457
this also includes batman #443 - #445 and batman: bride of the demon, however tim only makes small appearances in these so it's not a big deal if you skip them. once you're done with these you can read some of the bigger events like knightfall, knightquest and knightsend alongside Progidal and of course, tim's own solos (robin (1991) robin ii (1991) and robin iii (1993)).
I hope this is enough to keep you occupied for a while and i hope you have fun reading!
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bitimdrake · 1 year
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Would you be willing to recommend any comics for Tim?
OKAY SO. I'm just sorta grabbing a combination of Tim comics that I think are Important and Tim comics that I think are just good. I'm sure I'm missing some great ones, so Tim fans feel free to chime in.
Individual storylines:
Batman: A Lonely Place of Dying - Tim's introduction
Detective Comics #618-621, Batman #455-457 - Shortly after, rounding out Tim's origin story
Robin II: Jokers Wild - Tim's second miniseries, where the newbie Robin has to take care of the Joker alone
Batman #480 - interesting reflection on Tim's relationship with his dad
Batman: Knightfall - First big Batfamily storyline. Admittedly it has been a while since I read this, but the first part "Knightfall" (in which things go bad) and the third/final part "KnightsEnd" (in which everyone comes together and also Dick is back!!) I remember enjoying. The middle ("Knightquest") is both not as good, too long, and has less Tim. Tim's solo series also started here.
Batman: Prodigal - Dick & Tim!!!!
Batman: Contagion + Batman: Legacy - A pair of batfamily stories, where a plague hits Gotham and Tim has a bad time.
Young Justice: The Secret - Tim, Kon, and Bart team up for the first time, alongside the fourth founder of the Young Justice team...
Nightwing #25 - single issue with Dick & Tim
Batman: No Man's Land - Okay, so this is like The batman storyline ever, but I also must inform you here that it is the longest ever, and that Tim and most of the family don't start appearing until halfway through. But the story really hits its stride at that point and it's great.
Batman: Gotham Knights #1-11 - Not all of these issues are about or even include Tim, but the first arc of this run is one of my favorite batfam storylines.
Bruce Wayne: Murderer? / Bruce Wayne: Fugitive - Bruce gets accused of murder, and the ensuing events highlight a lot of interesting family dynamics.
Batgirl #18 - single issue with Cass & Tim
Robin #100-120 - imo the best of Steph & Tim
Robin #124-126 - big change to the status quo with Tim's dad
Robin/Batgirl: Fresh Blood - Cass & Tim bonding in grief
Nightwing #110 - Look this issue is not about Tim and maybe not important, but I play favorites when it comes to the Dick & Tim duo and their conversation here makes me sad
Batman: Face the Face - Things finally start to get better in Gotham with a classic Batman detective story with Bruce & Tim, ending with a major step for them
Robin #156 - sad :(
Robin #167 - more sad!
Batman: The Resurrection of Ra's al Ghul - Look Tim is going through it, BUT Dick does love him
Red Robin #1-12 (aka The Grail) - Tim goes searching for not-dead Bruce
Batman: Gates of Gotham - the kids (Dick, Cass, Tim, Damian) finally work together
Or if you want the easy reading of just picking up a long running series:
Robin (1993) - Tim's long-running solo as the boy wonder
Young Justice (1998) - Tim's first and best team. (Find my full reading order here.)
Red Robin (2009) - Tim's transition to a new mantle. The shorter length of this one is alluring, but I truly believe it is best read and thought of as a a direct sequel to Robin (1993).
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batmanisagatewaydrug · 2 months
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Since you're doing that whole big Batman readthrough, were there any comics or arcs you particularly enjoyed reading? Or any you'd say are bad enough to be skippable?
unfortunately I do kind of like All Of It, because I love Batman and even when a story is weak there's usually something charming enough to make it worthwhile - a cute character beat, a funny detail, some particularly good or interestingly awful art, a character debut or something else that's insignificant to the story itself but is overall significant to the overall development of Batman's lore. I think it helps that I initially went into this reading project with an academic approach, looking to track the development of the modern Batfamily through the New Earth era when so many of the major Bat characters are introduced and have some of their most influential stories. I imagine the experience I have is a lot like historians reading old journals or ledgers; even when the actual content itself is dull, there's a lot of importance to be found in the details.
in terms of standouts, I was really surprised by how much I liked the absolute behemoth of Knightfall and the subsequent Knightquest and KnightsEnd. Bruce getting his back broken by Bane is like such an iconic and oft-recreated moment, but nobody ever seems to want to talk about the absolute lunacy that comes after that. do you know how he gets his back unbroken? absolute fucking madness. and it goes on for so long, this storyline is enormous.
and then given how much absolute shit I talked about Jean Paul while I was reading that, I was floored by how much I've ended up enjoying his solo series. nemsis to blorbo pipeline speedrun, unfortunately. that's my beautiful wretched son.
also as cringe as it is to enjoy Chuck Dixon Tim's Robin solos, Selina's solo, and Birds of Prey are just good! I'm sorry but it comforts me that they're all gay and Chuck Dixon was writing cool people and was too stupid to notice. rest in piss. Robin in particular is I think one of the titles that I most consistently look forward to, especially as Steph becomes a more consistent recurring character. I just like these kids!
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detectibrarian · 8 months
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batman: knightsend
dc house ad - 1995
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inhousearchive · 2 years
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House-ad for the 1995 trade paperback collecting the KnightsEnd storyline.
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connanro · 10 months
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i’m sure someone has made this list before. but i’ve recently reread the robin (1993-2009) comics and realised how Batshit Crazy tim’s time as robin was. here’s a list of major events that happened during his tenure:
obeah man???: still not clear on exactly what happened here, but his parents are both poisoned, resulting in his mom’s death and his dad’s long-term coma.
knightfall/knightquest/knightsend: the iconic arc when bane breaks bruce’s back and azrael (derogatory) temporarily becomes batman then quickly goes off the rails and tries to kill tim, forcing him to go solo and work with huntress (hashtag girlboss) before bruce returns and handles azrael
contagion: the incurable Apocalypse Virus™ threatens to wipe out gotham city and tim naturally catches it and nearly dies before bruce returns with The Cure
the final night: a sun-eater tries to Eat The Sun. tim meets impulse! robin and spoiler defend gotham city on their own during the crisis! tim’s girlfriend’s crazy mafia uncle tries to kill him after finding them in bed together (not doing the sexy. but it looked like they were gonna do it.)
cataclysm: a massive earthquake levels half of gotham, throwing the city into crisis and causing some problems in tim’s personal life as his father relocates them to keystone briefly before tim’s misery convinces him to move them back to gotham
no man’s land (a personal favourite): gotham’s post-earthquake crisis worsens and the government decides that the best solution is to declare it no man’s land. shockingly, this causes Even More Problems. there’s a whole thing where tim’s dad realises tim snuck off into the city, and the news about it makes people sympathetic enough to gotham’s (cough a rich white family’s) plight that the government decides to actually help. cass becomes batgirl!
young justice/teen titans drama!: so much went on here. i don’t even know where to begin. the whole imperiex/our worlds at war apocalyptic crisis. tim quits young justice after the thing where the justice league discovers batman’s Super Paranoid Contingency Plans™ causes the team to distrust him. he returns to the team, which is disbanded after a team-up with the titans goes badly. the teen titans is formed. general fuckery involving tim’s civilian life!
unmasked: tim’s dad finds out he’s robin, confronts batman in the batcave with a gun and forces tim to quit. steph becomes robin and cuts off contact with tim. superboy tries to convince tim to come back to teen titans, but tim insists that he’s Totally Happy Just Being A Civilian, Kon. Really. He’s Less Stressed Now That He’s Not Dealing With Constant Crises! (lying)
war games: oh god. we all know this one. gang war! gotham in peril! steph dies! tim meets evil!future batman!tim who murdered the entire rogue gallery with the gun that killed bruce’s parents. tim seriously considers killing himself to prevent this future.
identity crisis: a Mysterious Villain begins targeting families of the justice league. because tim is not allowed to have anything remotely nice, his dad is murdered (by captain boomerang, which is frankly adding insult to injury). tim invents an uncle to avoid getting adopted by bruce (really, kid? really?). bruce finds out and helps him solidify the fake uncle's identity (bruce no)
robin: to kill a bird: jason todd returns all crazy and nearly kills tim at titans’ tower (dressed in a version of his robin costume) and signs his name in tim’s blood. theatre kid much, jason?
infinite crisis: c’mon dc, you’ve done like four world-ending crises in the last decade. chill your goddamn tits. the teen titans, doom patrol, and justice society of america team up to take down superboy prime. normal superboy dies due to the fight, despite tim’s desperate attempt to find a cure. also bludhaven got nuked and tim’s stepmother gets a traumatic brain injury and is permanently hospitalised. then bruce, tim, and dick go on vacation and tim accepts bruce’s offer to adopt him! yay!
one year later: cass is briefly evil! the league of assassins tries to recruit tim, who barely escapes with his life after turning them down. then he goes a little crazy with grief, tries to clone kon, and has a brief relationship with extreme violence before deciding to break it off.
the resurrection of ra’s al ghul: damian arrives in gotham! and tries to kill tim multiple times! ra’s tries to seduce tim to the Dark Side with the promise of resurrecting his parents! tim refuses! ra’s tries to force bruce to sacrifice either tim or damian to become his new host body! tim tries to sacrifice himself but is convinced by dick to Not Do That at the last minute!
batman r.i.p.: bruce dies, but not really! fun times!
battle for the cowl: i like to pretend this doesn’t exist, because it is Stupid As Fuck. jason nearly kills tim again, but damian (!) rescues him.
red robin: dick makes damian robin. the end!
but not really
and then of course the whole red robin series (which i love) is just like. tim is passively suicidal! tim loses an entire important organ while working with the loa! tim becomes ceo of wayne enterprises then blows up the loa and ra’s almost kills him! tim is nearly raped by one of ra’s’ daughters because ra’s really wants tim’s babies! this is not dealt with at all!!! love that for him
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saint-of-ossaville · 2 months
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— Azrael™ (Batman Armor) from Batman: Knightsend 7" scale by MacFarlane Toys, 2024
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