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#Catherine of Aragon had tragically died
wanderlustmagician · 3 months
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I tried answering this from my phone twice and it wiped it. So had to wait on the tablet xD
I've always enjoyed doing research and reading on various bad ass women in history. I find it so fun and fascinating that several different countries can say that they're at their most prolific and successful when they're ruled by a Queen. It's usually the Kings where a lot of the drama is, but even then the Queens are being bad asses behind the scenes.
One area of history I circle back to a lot is Henry VIII and his wives. Mostly his wives, they're honestly the more interesting ones in that trainwreck. Catherine of Aragon was essentially being held hostage after her first husband, Arthur, and Henry's elder brother died suddenly. Arthur is super kind of tragic, to me. A lot of what little records of him remain show a very lonely existence. He didn't really get to be around his family a lot and grew up with a lot of expectations resting on him. He was only 15 when he died. Anyways Henry's father, Henry VII (and don't get me started on the naming thing back then, I do my family's ancestry stuff and it makes me absolutely CRAZY), didn't want to lose a very profitable alliance with what was a united Spain and, if I remember right, also didn't want to return her very expensive dowry. So he just... refused to send her back?? So rude. Anyways, little future Henry VIII spends that time learning the things he didn't get to learn when he was the spare and wooing Catherine. It works. She is successfully wooed.
They're married for 20 years. Two decades. The people LOVE her. She is an A+ Queen according to the people. She's invested in the arts, she's investing creating a culturally diverse court. She sponsors young noble ladies to go learn about the courts, culture, and arts in other ladies countries/courts. Anne Boelin is one these ladies she sponsored. We can get to her another day though. Catherine is emulating her mother, Isabella I of Castille, and her court. Things she learned at her mother's knee growing up. Being from Spain, she was a very devout Catholic as was her daughter, Mary.
Then after many years of being a devoted queen, suffering through the trauma and agony of many miscarriages and children lost young or stillborn, and having to live as a hostage - Henry VIII betrays her by casting away their now formerly shared faith, disavowing their marriage and casting away their daughter, and imprisoning her till she eventually dies. She never gets to go back to Spain, never sees her daughter again, and is forced to die dishonored and alone.
And what's worse, to me, is that Henry VIII loved her, but when it came down to making a choice between his wife and his legacy... he absolutely made the wrong choice and then kept making it. By the time of his death, he'd thrown both away.
I could have kept going but this was getting long and if I started on Anne Boelin, I wouldn't have been able to stop. Henry VIII did Catherine of Aragon dirty, but so did his father and a lot of the people in her life ( I think the only person who was ever on her side was Arthur, her first husband, but he died after like five months... so who knows how long that energy would have lasted.) However, Anne Boelin got done almost worse for how much he loved her versus how he handled the end.
I dunno if this is what you were hoping for but tadaaaa. Thank you for the ask Somer <3
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Finals - Resurrect Bracket (Losers Bracket)
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ashes to ashes, dust to dust; in sure and certain hope of the Resurrection to [make it to the finals]
Propaganda below ⬇️
Hellboy Propaganda
He is literally the beast of the apocalypse. He was forcibly assigned catholic at birth, he deserves this. Now i know the rules said no demons, and that is fair. But here is my propaganda: he is a half-demon AND he absolutely does not want to end the world. He just wants to hang out and beat up monsters and work his job. But catholic guilt and apocalypse stuff always gets in the way. The comic books contain a ridiculous amount of religious imagery, the author was raised catholic, and passages from the bible are occasionally quoted. Hellboy is also portrayed as a messianic figure in conjunction with being an apocalyptic one. He uh, kind of becomes the savior of the new world and its like a whole thing. Catholic imagery appears frequently. Statues of the virgin mary, churches, etc. he also wears a literal cross on his belt, what can i say.
Okay here’s my rant. Hi, hello, propaganda. The last ten issues of the comic literally feature Hellboy going to hell and killing satan. He kills satan, fucks around in hell for a bit, and then blows everything up and its godamn tragic. Forcibly assigned catholic at birth. A bro did not ask for this it just happened. His mom was a witch but tried to become catholic after she died. Kind of a banger move. It didn’t work out for her but she gets points for trying. He tried real hard to save the world and it kind of worked but he did still die and go to hell. But not because he did anything bad, it was just kind of unavoidable. Again, he did blow the place the fuck up when he was done so. Respect.
Lapsed Catholic who is literally a half demon and also the rightful King of England that’s right he’s descended from King Arthur on his mother’s side.
Catherine
Girl boss, girl group, song that slaps, SIX as a whole slaps, I love it so much legit it’s so good I love it. You can ask my brother I’ve annoyed him about it so much. It’s so good.
"And even though you've had your fun/ Running around with some pretty young thing/ And even though you've had one son/ With someone who don't own a wedding ring/ No matter what I heard, I didn't say a word" Staying with an cheating husband because it's a sin to get divorce is so catholic of her ;-;
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Authors Toby Marlow and Lucy Moss found inspiration for their hit musical in the lives and loves of King Henry VIII, but SIX tells the story from the women’s point of view.
Each queen gets her moment in the spotlight to explain her fate of being “Divorced. Beheaded. Died. Divorced. Beheaded. Survived.”
Divorced: Catherine of Aragon
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Larger-than-life Henry VIII ruled England for 36 years (1509-1547), raging war against France and Scotland, separating from the Catholic Church, and paving the way for the constitution of England, among other political achievements.
But young Prince Henry was not destined to be king. When his older brother Arthur died in 1502 at age 15, Henry became the heir to the throne.
When Arthur died, Henry didn’t just inherit the throne—he inherited his brother’s fiancée, Catherine of Aragon.
After marrying, the two became parents to a son—who tragically died two months later.
Their daughter Mary was born in 1516, but by 1526, the marriage had not produced the male heir Henry needed to secure the succession.
He began looking for a new bride, even though the Catholic Church made it impossible to divorce Catherine.
In the end, the answer was simple:
Henry believed he was a king ordained by God, so he, not the pope, had ultimate authority over his kingdom; as such, he could grant his own annulment.
This decision led to England’s break with the Catholic Church—and the creation of the Anglican Church.
After their annulment, Catherine was given the title “Dowager Duchess of Wales,” and she lived out her days at Kimbolton Castle. She died in 1536 from cancer at the age of 50.
Mary, by the way, went on to become Queen of England and Ireland from 1553 to 1558, during which time she fought to reverse the English Reformation, brought about during her father’s reign.
Beheaded: Anne Boleyn
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While still married to Catherine, Henry had begun wooing a court beauty, Anne Boleyn, and was determined to marry her.
A lady-in-waiting to Catherine, Anne was sophisticated, charming, and confident.
She is commonly believed to be the wife he loved the most.
As his advisers worked on “the King’s great matter” of the divorce, the couple had to wait seven years to be married—though the two flaunted their relationship in court.
He wrote her love letters, which still exist today:
“I hope soon to see you again,” he wrote, “which will be to me a greater comfort than all the precious jewels in the world.”
Anne was six months pregnant when they finally said “I do” in June 1533. Three months later, she gave birth to Elizabeth I.
She had two stillborn children and suffered a miscarriage in 1536; the fetus appeared to be male. Henry still did not have his heir.
Little by little, Henry grew tired of Anne, and his eye caught sight of a new woman: Jane Seymour.
To end the marriage, Henry needed to find a way out—and he found it through accusing Anne of high treason.
For the crimes of adultery, incest and plotting to murder the king, Anne was arrested and imprisoned in the Tower of London.
She went on trial, denied all charges, but was found guilty.
Anne was beheaded on 17 May 1536 at the Tower and buried in an unmarked grave beneath the Parish Church there.
Died: Jane Seymour
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While married to Anne, Henry visited the Seymour home. It was believed that was when he first laid eyes on Jane, who served as a lady in waiting for both Catherine of Aragon and Anne Boleyn.
As in his relationship with Anne, Henry began courting Jane while still a married man.
Beautiful and reserved, she was a stark contrast to his first two wives. Before long, rumors of his attraction to her spread. 
He proposed to her the day after Anne Boleyn’s execution, and they were married a month later.
She bore a son, the future Edward VI, in 1537 but died within 12 days of giving birth.
She is the only wife buried with him in the same tomb in St. George’s Chapel at Windsor Castle.
Divorced: Anne of Cleves
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Henry’s ministers searched high and low for a new wife for the king, whose abysmal marital reputation preceded him.
Anne of Cleves, the daughter of a German duke, became a prospect for diplomatic reasons:
The marriage would ally England with a Protestant duchy, thus solidifying England’s religious reformation.
But Henry needed to know what she looked like, so, on the advice of Thomas Cromwell, he sent his favorite court painter, Hans Holbein the Younger, to the German duchy.
He approved based on the portrait.
When Anne arrived, however, he was crestfallen to see she was not as fair as reported.
(Remember, he was no great looker at that time of his life—obese, in chronic pain, with an unpredictable temper.)
Nevertheless, they were married at Greenwich Palace on 6 January 1540, but he was already looking for a way out.
The marriage was annulled six months later, on the technicality that it hadn’t been consummated.
She was given Hever Castle (Anne Boleyn’s former home) and the title “King’s Beloved Sister.”
Thomas Cromwell was not so fortunate; Henry had him executed for his miscalculation.
Beheaded: Catherine Howard
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Henry was 49, and Catherine was 19 or 20, when he spotted her among the ladies in waiting to his previous wife, Anne of Cleves.
Vivacious and full of energy, the young Catherine had no choice in the matter. The pair married in 1540, three weeks after his separation with Anne.
She became his trophy wife.
No doubt turned off by her much older husband (who suffered from various ailments including ulcerous legs), she fell in love with Thomas Culpeper, one of Henry’s young advisers.
The Archbishop of Canterbury, Thomas Cranmer, found out, and he reported her indiscretions—including those that occurred before their marriage with other men—to Henry.
She was charged with “unchastity” before her marriage, concealing her indiscretions, and adultery: acts of treason.
She was executed on 13 February 1542.
Survived: Catherine Parr
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Twice married and twice widowed, the down-to-earth Catherine was reluctant at first to marry Henry. Who wouldn’t be?
She knew the fates of his previous wives, though she also knew that refusing the king could have drastic consequences.
She had caught his eye when she had been part of the household of Princess Mary, the king’s daughter.
They were married in 1543. By all reports, she was a loving, pious wife who offered comfort to Henry in his old age.
She helped Henry to reconcile with his two daughters, Mary and Elizabeth, and ensured they were educated and restored to succession.
She outlived him and married for a fourth time.
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I think this is a beautiful portrait. It is of Isabella of Aragon, Queen of Portugal (1470-1498). She looks devout, pious, angelic, peaceful.
Isabella was the eldest child of Ferdinand II of Aragon and Isabella I of Castile, and sister to a number of siblings, one of whom was Catherine whose marriage to Arthur, Prince of Wales and then his younger brother Henry VIII formed an alliance between England and Spain. At this point in time, all Christians were Catholics and their headquarters were in Rome. Protestantism didn’t come about until 1517, and that began in Germany, coincidentally a year after the death of Ferdinand II. He and his wife had been zealous Catholics, responsible in 1478 for the creation of the Spanish Inquisition, whose purpose it was to stamp out Jews and Muslims and return the country to the Christian faith.
Isabella became Queen of Portugal when she married King Manuel I. Prior to this, she had been married to his nephew, Prince Afonso. Acc. to Wikipedia, though the marriage had been an arranged one, it had quickly become a love match and Isabella proved a popular figure with the Portuguese royal family due to her knowledge of their language and customs brought about by the years she spent in Portugal as a child. But only a year later, in 1491, Afonso was killed in a riding accident and Isabella was heartbroken. Later, - and this is the part I find interesting - she became convinced that he had died because God was angry that Portugal had provided a refuge for the Jews that her parents had expelled from Spain. (You have to remember that most people were extremely religious in those days and they truly believed in and feared God’s wrath).
Afonso’s death rendered Isabella a young widow and she did not wish to marry again, but as a member of the Spanish royal family it was expected of her. So, she agreed to marry Manuel, but only on the condition that he expel all Jews from Portugal who would not convert to Christianity. He agreed to her ultimatum and they married in September 1497. Tragically, she died a less than a year later, within an hour of giving birth to her son. She was 27.
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I think henry had so many wives because he was looking for unrealistic views on what marriage should be, what a wife/queen should be, unrealistic view on love and male heirs and no i don't think Jane Seymour was it either IMO she was only his favourite wife because she only one who able to give him an heir, maybe he loved her but they were only together a short time, he also loved his 2 wives before her and those relationships were much longer and he did a lot in order to marry anne. I think Catherine of aragon was perfect idea of what he wanted in a wife, sure he come to love her but i don't believe it was the love he was looking for, she failed to give him a heir so become disillusioned with her. Anne Boleyn i think maybe was about love but imo was not what he wanted in a queen/wife and become further disillusioned when she failed to give him a heir, i think he lashed out at her a lot instead of admitting he blame for lengths he went to marry her and he blame he set his wife aside for her, it most likely henry would just had anne as a mistress if anne not had self respect to not become just another one of his mistresses and pushed she only sleep with her husband, so henry did just that in order to have her, anne probably also probably promised henry she give him male heirs in order to convince him to, then henry felt betrayed when anne failed/ broke her promise, probably disillusioned and angry that he automatically believed she was guilty of all these things she was accused of and just wanted rid of her. Jane i think he happy with her as a wife and loved her but i don't believe it was the passion he had for anne, but imo rumours that he was disillusioned with jane and her plain looks and got annoyed when jane spoke up and made sure he put her in this place by reminding her of what happened to last wife who was not a submissive wife so jane was smart to play that role (i still question if that was her true nature, as imo she went after henry and getting ready to marry henry while his wife was going to her death sure anne might done the same but anne i dont think could ever known henry would set his wife aside for her but jane think knew it was a possibility but guess jane not really to blame either but yeah she not innocent saint imo) i feel henry romanticised jane because they weren't married long, he didn't have time to tire or become disappointed in her etc and she died giving him what he longed for so would forever love and be grateful for that but she only gave him one heir if lived would she had miscarriages etc like his former wives, Jane imo was just lucky not special. only a month later he was looking to remarry, sure he grieved her but imo he moved on quick, I do almost get the impression he was almost trying to recreate what he had with his 1st 3 wives in his last 3 wives anne of cleves- catherine of aragon they both princesses etc who his disregarded, catherine howard- anne boleyn- love and passion- both died awful death, catherine parr- jane seymour the obedient wife/carer again she was lucky/tragic like jane seymour. I think he was looking for a mix of what all his first 3 wives gave him in one person but never found it/realistically never would find it. I feel he only buried with Jane/she his favourite because he didn't divorce her, he still loved her when she died, she died giving him a heir. it only logical he be buried with her as his other wives he divorced or he had them sent to their death/ believed to committed adultery, and catherine parr outlived and jane only one gave him a son. I think in his eyes maybe Jane was the closest thing he was looking for but i don't think even she was IT. it also said he grieved more/was more devastated over catherine howard adultery than when jane died. so much for jane the one supposedly loved most XD with jane i feel it was more of her image a image that was not shattered for him like his other wives but she luckily died before she could shattered that image. I do think he also looking for the type of love/marriage his parents had.
Yeah it’s not really ‘popular’ to say this, but I think Henry was, in his heart, a romantic and an idealist. And, in a lot of ways, I think his views on relationships was very modern (not in all ways, but some ways)
I think he wanted to be in love. That seems pretty obvious from what we know of his relationship with Anne. I mean, when you read his letters to her, there are times where he actually comes off as kinda pathetic. I really do believe that Henry had never really been in love with someone until Anne. I think Henry made himself believe he was in love with Catherine (I think Henry was very good at making himself believe things that weren’t true), but with Anne, that was his first experience with real, genuine love.
And, I don’t know, in a weird way I think with all his subsequent marriages, he was trying to recapture what he felt with Anne.
But, at the same time, Henry was also a 16th century man and a king and while he clearly wanted a genuine love match rather than a strictly political match, he also had to have a son.
I don’t think Henry actually wanted a submissive wife, at least, not when he was younger. I think Henry actually wanted an independent-minded wife, it was just, the two women he married that were actually his type failed to give him what he wanted most so I think he just got tired of that and was like “okay I just need a wife who will shut up and do her damn job.”
I’ve said this before, but I’ll say it again: if either Catherine or Anne had given him a son, I think that would’ve been it for him. I think Anne especially had everything he wanted in a wife (with the exception that she wasn’t beneficial from a foreign policy perspective) but she just didn’t have a son. So if she had had a son, there’s really no reason to believe thatHenry wouldn’t have stayed with her.
I mean Henry was, above all other things, a narcissist. Ultimately, his marriages didn’t work out because his expectations were too high and he was impetuous. I mean, I understand his reasons (coming off the heels of the Wars of the Roses) and I can sympathize; obviously it’s not Henry’s fault; he couldn’t control the genders of his children anymore than anyone else (and it’s not his fault that all his predecessors just got so lucky re: Henry II who also came to power on the heels of a civil war, but he just happened to have 4 sons). But, having said that, there were plenty of other kings before Henry that didn’t have sons or brothers and they didn’t marry six times and have their wives beheaded.
So, while I do try to sympathize with Henry and recognize that he wasn’t wholly bad and there were a lot of things out of his control, there were obviously a lot of things in his control that he must be held accountable for.
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It’s called wearing yellow to a funeral
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Anne: Sing along if you know the words. Catherine was a MASSIVE—!
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minervacasterly · 3 years
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The death of a Tudor Prince & the death of the Camelot dream
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On the 2nd of April 1502, Prince Arthur Tudor of Wales and Lord of Snowdonia died in his principality at Ludlow Castle. He was only fifteen years old.
This left his young wife, Spanish Princess, Catherine of Aragon, in a political limbo. Questions arose regarding the Princess' possible pregnancy, and later on her alleged purity. The latter would come to haunt her again when Henry VIII made his intentions to annul their union so he could marry Anne Boleyn, clear.
His death also meant the death of his father's ambitions. He had named Arthur after the legendary king who united all of Britain against the Saxons and as such, Henry VII, believed that his eldest son would be the one to bring a second Camelot to England. The Arthurian myth was a Welsh myth that was appropriated by the English and one that Henry VII, being half Welsh, felt a close link to.
When Henry VII crossed the narrow sea and landed in Wales, people began to associate him with old Welsh prophecies, and he used Welsh motifs, claiming to be the true descendant of King Arthur, Cadwalader, etc. Henry VII wasn't the first successful usurper to do this. Henry IV and Henry VII's later-father-in-law, Edward IV had also used this tactic; but being half-Welsh, made more Welshmen directly associate him with these legendary and historical figures. As a result, Cadwalader's banner of the red dragon, became Henry's main flag and part of his royal coat of arms.
Seeking to bring legitimacy to his dynasty, he moved his pregnant wife to Winchester Cathedral, where many believed Camelot once stood. On the 20th of September 1485, Elizabeth delivered a healthy baby boy who was named Arthur and was christened days later.
Arthur received a strict religious and Humanist education and communicated with his future wife in Latin. The two, dressed in matching colors of white and gold, were married at St Paul's Cathedral in November 1501. The ceremony was followed by a sumptuous banquet and weeks of jousts and other lavish spectacle before it was decided the Prince and Princess of Wales should move to Ludlow Castle.
Just what killed Prince Arthur?
No one knows for sure. Historians speculate it was testicular cancer or the sweating sickness, while others take a middle approach (like John Guy) and state that he wasn't the sickly youth he's often depicted as in fiction but given the era he lived in, it is highly possible that he died of some common ailment.
Henry VII and Elizabeth of York, were told of their son's death two days later on April 4. The person chosen for this task was the King's confessor.
Henry was completely devastated. Equally heartbroken, Elizabeth of York “did her best to comfort him as they took ‘the painful sorrow together’” writes Licence. And that “God had left him yet a fair prince, two fair princesses” and that they were still young and could have more children. Afterwards, she went to her chambers to cry, and just as she had done, he comforted her.
Recently, many historians have taken an interest on the Tudor King that never was and have written extensively onhim. Besides the sources I cite below, other notable mentions are by Sean Cunningham whose biography on Arthur Tudor has received a lot of good reviews, Terry Breverton and Debra Bayani's respective biographies on Arthur's paternal uncle, Jasper Tudor, and Amy Licence's latest biography on Catherine of Aragon.
Some fans go even further and ask 'what if?' How different England would be today if Arthur had lived and more importantly, unlike his brother, remained married to Catherine of Aragon?
Since there is not a lot know about him in comparison to his father and brother, and not a lot has been written about him in the past (that didn't have to do with his union to Catherine of Aragon) he remains an interesting figure. And let's face it, we all love a good mystery. Unfortunately, this also makes him the subject of wild speculations and conjectures, most of which have no basis in fact.
Arthur Tudor was laid to rest at Worcester Cathedral on the 25th of April, 1502. His title of Prince of Wales was passed on to his younger brother, Henry, formerly the Duke of York.
Sources:
1. Sister Queens: the noble and tragic lives of Katherine of Aragon and Juana I of Castile by Julia Fox
2. Six Wives, Queens of Henry VIII by David Starkey
3. Henry VII by SB Chrimes
4. Tudor by Leanda de Lisle
5. The Six Wives and the Many Mistresses of Henry VIII by Amy Licence
6. Children of Henry VIII by John Guy
Images: Prince Arthur Tudor, anonymous painter, c.1501. Prince Arthur Tudor on stained glass window at Great Malvern and the tomb of Prince Arthur Tudor in Worcester Cathedral.
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Rebekah Wainwright as Catherine Brandon (The Tudors, Season 1, 2 & 3)
Catherine Willoughby,12th Baroness Willoughby de Eresby and Duchess of Suffolk (also known as Catherine Brandon and Catherine Bertie) was the daughter of William Willoughby, 11th Baron Willoughby de Eresby and his wife Maria de Salinas (English courtier from Spain best known for being lady-in-waiting and close friend to Queen Catherine of Aragon).
Catherine had two brothers who died in infancy, reason why she inherited her father’s lands and barony after his passing when she was seven years old.
After the dead of her father, her wardship fell into the king, who sold it to his best friend and former brother-in-law, Charles Brandon. The Duke of Suffolk planned to marry her to his son Henry, but after his wife’s death (Mary Tudor, Queen Dowager of France and sister of King Henry VIII) he decided to marry his ward himself, since he needed her money and couldn’t wait for his son to grow up (he was around ten).
On 7 September 1533, a 14-year-old Catherine married 49-year-old Charles Brandon - at the time, the age difference did not cause controversies, but it did the fact that Brandon married again after just three months (aprox.) of his wife’s death.
The Duchess of Suffolk had two sons with her first husband (although both would tragically die on the same day due to the sweating sickness, six years after the death of their father: Henry was 16 and his brother Charles was 14). Catherine was said to be devastated by the death of her sons.
By 1555 (around 10 years after the death of Charles Brandon), Catherine married Richard Bertie, who served her as Gentleman-Usher and Master of the Horse. She had two children by this marriage: Susan Bertie and Peregrine Bertie, 13th Baron Willoughby of Eresby.
Catherine served as lady-in-waiting for the Queens Anne of Cleves, Catherine Howard and Catherine Parr (who will become a close friend of her).
Catherine was a protestant. For this reason, when Mary I of England became Queen, she fled the country to avoid being executed for heresy. She came back when Elizabeth succeeded her sister, but she was not so pleased by Elizabeth’s acceptance of the catholic faith.
She passed away at the age of 61 on the 19th of September, 1580.
Interesting fact about her: she despised bishop Gardiner and had a dog who named like the him (obviously with the intention of making fun of him).
She was a smart woman who shown interest in politics and religion.
Catherine Willoughby and Henry VIII:
There’s also a rumour that King Henry might have had an affair with her after the death of Jane Seymour (and that his friend Charles Brandon allowed this to happen, since he felt that he owned the King for his land a titles).
This gossip was mentioned by contemporary sources such as the Imperial Ambassador Chapuys.
His successor, François van der Delft, also mentioned in a letter to Charles V that there was gossip that the King was looking for a new Queen (since it was believed that Catherine Parr might be sterile) and the King had the Dowager Duchess of Suffolk in eye to be his next wife. But whether this was true or not, well never know because shortly after that the King died.
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Katherine of Aragon & Cardinal Wolsey
Catherine of Aragon did not like or trust Wolsey for several reasons. She felt that he was ousting her from her rightful place in the King's counsels, and she thought him insincere and lacking in the humility desirable in a prince of the Church. She also deplored his pro-French foreign policies, and the fact that he was working against the interests of Spain. In fact, after 1521, the Cardinal became ever more antagonistic towards Spain, because the Emperor had lifted not a finger to help Wolsey achieve his greatest ambition, that of being Pope; there had been two papal elections in 1521, and Wolsey - a candidate at both - had been overlooked, which he blamed upon Charles V's influence.
Alison Weir,  The Six Wives of Henry VII
Catherine's judgment that Wolsey was the instigator of her troubles should have due weight. She was not inclined to hysteria, and the discipline of more than twenty years' experience of court and diplomatic intrigue, acting on an intelligence naturally strong and alert, had given her an insight into character and motives unsubtle, it is true, but usually sound and shrewd. She should have known both Henry and Wolsey better than anyone else. She believed that Henry would never have thought of a divorce if Wolsey had not suggested it, and that the expedient had occurred to Wolsey as the best method of safeguarding his pro-French policy by removing from Henry's side the Emperor’s chief friend in England and substituting a French princess. Catherine's view, shared in 1527 by most of the diplomats in London and generally by the court and the city, has much to recommend it. 
Garrett Mattingly, Catherine of Aragon
There was no open rift between the King and Queen. Whilst awaiting the Pope’s decision, they appeared together in public, continued to dine and spend time together in private, and showed each other every courtesy. But Katherine knew herself to be watched; several of her women were Wolsey’s spies, bribed by gifts, financial inducements and even sex, and every letter she sent or received was scrutinised before it reached its destination. Each attempt she made to see Mendoza in private was blocked. It was not surprising, therefore, that she incorrectly blamed Wolsey for what was happening, a view that was to be shared by many other people, notably Charles V. It was inconceivable to her that Henry himself could have instigated these proceedings.
Alison Weir, Henry VIII: King and Court
Katherine had come to loathe Wolsey, believing him an enemy of Charles and imagining him to be the main instigator of the divorce, but his spectacular fall, and its consequences, shocked even her.
Julia Fox, Sister queens: the noble, tragic lives of Katherine of Aragon and Juana, Queen of Castile
Anne’s faction was continually afraid that the cardinal would wheedle his way back into Henry’s affection. Catherine, however, had begun to feel some sympathy for Wolsey. Perhaps it was having a mutual enemy in Anne Boleyn that softened her. It was not until November 1530 that Wolsey’s enemies managed to ensure treason charges were brought against him. Catherine was central to these charges. Chapuys reported that Wolsey was being accused by some of plotting to have the pope excommunicate Henry if he did not treat his wife with proper respect and dismiss Anne Boleyn from court. Henry later declared that Wolsey had intrigued ‘both in and out of the kingdom’. There had been, it was claimed, signs of ‘sinister practices made to the court of Rome’. Wolsey had, indeed, been advising Chapuys about how best to advance Catherine’s cause. At one stage he had even urged Chapuys on to ‘bold and immediate action’ in reply to Henry’s own manoeuvres.
Wolsey was arrested and, though he had been ill for a long time, refused to eat. He died of natural causes as he was being taken to the Tower of London on 29 November 1530. He thus saved himself the ignominy of long-term imprisonment, execution or both. He went to his death fully aware that the titanic clash of wills between Catherine and Henry had caused his downfall. ‘This is the just reward that I must receive for my worldly diligence and the pains that I have taken to do the king service and satisfy his vain pleasures,’ he said as, with his final words, he regretted having served Henry more loyally than god. Wolsey’s parting message to Henry was that he should study his own conscience ‘in the weighty matter yet depending … [to decide] whether I have offended him or no’. That ‘weighty’ business, Cavendish confirmed, was none other than ‘the matter newly begun between him and good Queen Catherine’. The once all-powerful cardinal thus became the first major casualty in the battle between Henry and Catherine. 
Giles Tremlett, Catherine of Aragon: Henry’s Spanish Queen
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What could have been? It is likely this question came to the mind of the forty-four-year-old Mary Stuart, Queen of Scots and the rightful queen of England, on the morning of February 8, 1587, as she awaited her execution at the hands of English Protestants. Her tragic story is not well known (many confuse her with “Bloody Mary” or Mary Tudor, who reigned as Queen of England from 1553-1558)
Her story begins with the end of another Mary. Mary Tudor, the daughter of King Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon, died in September 1558. Mary Tudor restored the Catholic Faith to England after the schismatic and heretical actions of her father and half-brother, King Edward VI. English Catholics lived in fear that Mary Tudor’s death would bring her Protestant half-sister, Elizabeth (the daughter of Henry and Anne Boleyn), to the throne. The fact that Mary Tudor’s marriage to Prince Philip of Spain did not produce a child exacerbated these fears.
English Catholics’ worst nightmare became reality when Mary Tudor died, and Elizabeth ascended the throne and began the first state-sponsored persecution of the Catholic Church since the Roman Empire. Elizabeth’s claim to the throne was illegitimate in Catholic eyes, since her father’s “marriage” to Anne Boleyn was invalid (Pope Clement VII upheld the validity of his marriage bond to Catherine of Aragon in 1534). The legitimate successor to the English throne was the sixteen-year-old Mary Stuart, who was the granddaughter of Henry Tudor’s eldest sister, Margaret.
Mary Stuart had been Queen of Scots since 1542 (at only six days old!) when her father, James V, died fighting an English invasion army. While a toddler, Mary was taken out of Scotland for her safety and was settled in France, the home country of her mother (Mary de Guise). Betrothed to the Dauphin Francis, Mary Stuart became queen consort of France in 1559 when Francis was crowned king after the premature death of Henry II (who died from a wound suffered during a knightly tournament). Sadly, Francis II died seventeen months later from an ear infection. The king’s mother, Catherine de’ Medici, reigned as regent, and Mary decided to return to Scotland in August 1561.
The tall, beautiful young widow came ashore to a troubled Scotland. The Protestant revolutionary John Knox, who had spent time studying under John Calvin in Geneva, was on a mission to destroy the Catholic Church in Scotland and institute Calvinist teachings and ordinances. Mary, a Catholic, had to tread carefully with the Protestant Knox, who was extremely popular and had many noble friends. Knox disliked Mary and her faith and found female rule an abomination and contrary to God’s will (he wrote a treatise in 1558 titled The First Blast of the Trumpet Against the Monstrous Regiment of Women). Eventually, Mary confronted Knox (played brilliantly by David Tennant in the new movie) and asked whether he wished to make war against her. Knox replied that he was as content to live under her reign as St. Paul was to live under Nero.
Within two years of Mary’s return, Knox preached publicly that she should convert to Protestantism or face execution. Enemies surrounded Mary. She received little support from her traitorous and cowardly half-brother, James Stuart, the Earl of Moray, and had to contend with English interference orchestrated by Elizabeth’s secretary of state, William Cecil. Although the lack of a legitimate rival to Mary helped maintain her power and authority, it was a tenuous reign.
Mary realized she needed to marry a strong Catholic prince to solidify her rule, but Knox and others agitated against it. She ignored the opposition and married her first cousin, Henry Stuart, Lord Darnley, in the summer of 1565. Darnley was tall, handsome, and Catholic (but an English subject), and Mary became infatuated with him soon after their first meeting. Mary found support for her marriage to Darnley from David Riccio, her Italian secretary. Many Scottish nobles disliked Riccio’s influence with Mary, and in February 1566 convinced Darnley that Riccio was Mary’s secret lover (the movie instead portrays Darnley and Riccio as homosexual lovers). Darnley conspired with the nobles and agreed to Riccio’s murder in Mary’s presence in March.
A few months after witnessing the horrific and brutal death of her friend, Mary gave birth to a boy she named James in June 1566. The boy, baptized Catholic but raised Protestant, was destined to rule both Scotland and England as James VI and I, as his mother should have been able to do. Unfortunately, Mary was denied the right to raise her son in the Faith due to political events, as she was forced to flee Scotland once again when the child was only ten months old.
Eventually, a group of nobles, including James Hepburn, Fourth Earl of Bothwell, murdered the conspiring and cowardly Lord Darnley at Kirk o’ Field in February 1568. Bothwell then abducted Mary and forced her to marry him for protection in May 1568. Later that summer, Scottish nobles finally succeeded in what they had tried to accomplish for the last seven years: the abdication of Mary as queen. Her infant son was crowned king of Scotland, and Mary was imprisoned in Lochleven castle. With the help of a small number of supporters, she escaped and made the puzzling choice to seek refuge in England rather than certain safety in France. Perhaps Mary believed she might be able to raise an army with the help of her cousin Elizabeth.
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It was a fatal error in judgment. Viewed with suspicion because of her legitimate claim to the English throne, Mary was imprisoned in limited house arrest and carefully watched for the next nineteen years.
Elizabeth resisted the urgings of Cecil and others to execute Mary until she was (falsely) implicated in a plot to assassinate the queen in 1586 (and even then, Elizabeth hesitated). Mary was beheaded early in 1587. Her death, in part, caused King Philip II of Spain, who had pledged protection to Mary, to initiate the Spanish Armada (which was also launched to end the persecution of Catholics in England).
Mary’s sufferings surely must have caused her to question the events of her life and to ask what could have been. However, she held fast to her Faith in the end and recognized that events in life occur for a reason and are guided by God’s providential goodness, love, and mercy. She exhibited this strong faith in her last words: “All this world is but vanity and full of troubles and sorrows. Even as thy arms, O Jesus, were spread here upon the cross, so receive me into thy arms of mercy and forgive me all my sins” (quoted in Warren H. Carroll, The Cleaving of Christendom, 419).
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Hello Bhaleesi! I divided my asks in two if you dont mind. The first one was getting long 😅😅
I noticed that Selena's cause of death is not concrete. So (hypothetically speaking) what if she was alive ryt now? Can the realm have 2 potentates at once? Emotionally, Selene has the upper hand whereas politically....Quill can't be removed. Sorry for the dumb question but I honestly adore both these potentates and I couldn't sleep last night thinking abt it😅😅😅😅😵 What abt Ayden though😬😬
Quill was tempted to trust the spymaster of the realm. She was more personable than her older brother, yet Quill remembered Isabelle including her on the short list of people to be wary of. He certainly was each time he saw Reyna and Ayden interact in an informal setting. It often left him … self-conscious.
And were Ayden and Reyna ever romantically involved? Reyna had still not given up on her hopes for Ayden that time I see😲😲 Does Reyna have something for Ayden other than her ambitions?🤔
I'm so sorry for the long asks but I'm obsessed with AWAS and want to dig into the characters. Love from me!!❤
P.S- I really wanna see Quill and the twins together!
No worries about dividing the asks - it makes it easier for me to give detailed answers to any questions you have! I enjoy answering your questions, too, so no need to feel like any of them are dumb! <3 
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Selene being alive would be ... uncomfortable to say the least. The realm can have two potentates in the sense that one is the “ruling” potentate (married to the current sovereign) and the other is a dowager potentate (married to the previous sovereign). In this hypothetical scenario, however, Quill and Selene would both be “ruling” potentates ... which the kingdom can’t have 😅. This is such a fun hypothetical because there’s so many ways it could go. 
1. You could make the argument that Selene being alive means that Quill’s marriage to Ayden isn’t legitimate. Depending on how the Grand Seer feels, an annulment of Quill and Ayden’s marriage could be arranged so that Selene takes her crown back. 
Which of course would immediately make Theron an enemy. One way I can think of to resolve that is to take away Quill’s crown and essentially give it to one of his younger siblings by having them marry Lucien. This of course opens up a tiny problem named Lyra Livingstone, who is going to be pissed because Corvus already has dibs on Lucien. So ... minimal bloodshed scenario is Viscardi or Luna marries Esme instead (to avoid messing with the Livingstones) and we hope that it’s good enough for Theron (it won’t be..)
2. Or we say that the Grand Seer decides not to annul the marriage and Quill’s claim is recognized. This will cause lots of unrest in the kingdom, since there will be people that prefer Selene (or at least just want Quill gone). There’s also the emotional component, where I think Ayden would be really conflicted. On one hand, it’s Selene. But also, on the other hand, Quill. Not to mention how the twins would feel. 
This one is definitely more unstable. The Annex and Coven are satisfied by the decision. Sanguis, parts of Ancient, and Briar will want Selene reinstated. The Seas won’t care either way. Stepes is a bit more variable. The newly-made Frontier will prefer Quill. 
Would this divide be enough to start a war? Probably not ... but it’ll make things incredibly tense in Eurydice. Selene will very much be the Catherine of Aragon to Quill’s Anne Boleyn (as in people view Selene as the real Potentate, no matter what the “head of the church” says). 
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I’m always happy to talk about Reyna! 
I don’t think that she wants more from Ayden beyond the throne. Spending so many years around Ayden has made Reyna more fond of him, and she might even enjoy being married to a degree ... but she’d still show up in a stunning gown to his funeral after he dies a tragic and inexplicable death, leaving the kingdom in her hands 😅
Ayden and Reyna were never directly involved. Ayden wasn’t in a romantically receptive state when they met. This changed over the years, and he starts to develop a subconscious “crush” on her just before the story starts. Reyna is very good at learning what people like, and modifying her behavior to wrap them around her finger. Had it had another few months to develop, I could see Ayden start to consider courting Reyna. Quill shows up at the perfect time~ 
(and now Reyna is Orion’s problem lmao) 
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I’ve actually got a fair amount of content planned for Quill and the twins in the upcoming chapters, so you’re in luck! 
Thank you for the ask! 
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☠ and ♥ for margaret beaufort, ♥ elizabeth of york, ☾ and ★ henry vii, ★ margaret tudor
🌹 Hey there, thank you so much for your ask! Under the cut because it got long! ask me a headcanon 
Margaret Beaufort
☠ - angry/violent headcanon: This is the thing, though. I don’t think Margaret was an angry or violent person! She’s earned a reputation as a demanding and somewhat strict mistress but all of her household servants were fond of her. Fisher said that ‘of marvellous gentleness she was unto all folks, but specially unto her own, whom she trusted and loved right tenderly. Unkind she would be unto no creature, or forgetful of any kindness or service done to her before’. Likewise, sometime later, a former servant of hers, Henry Parker, referred to her as ‘my godly mistress the Lady Margaret’. There were always fun pastimes at her house though eventually she would pull out her bible lol There’s the time she was visiting one of the colleges she founded in Cambridge, Christ’s College, and a dean was beating one of his pupils and Margaret saw it from a window and shouted: lente, lente! (gently, gently!).
I’d say that one thing that made her blood boil, though, if there was any, was her sense of justice. Fisher commented that ‘it is not unknown how studiously she procured justice to be administered by a long season so long as she was suffered’. We saw her unwavering determination in trying to get her son’s lands back to him, but we also see this trait in the fact that she was authorised to settle disputes and administer justice on the king’s behalf in the midlands. Apparently, the jail in her house of Collyweston was occasionally in use (*eye emoji*). She also tried to make the king of France pay her the debt that was owed to her family since before she was born, and for that reason she travelled to France in 1502 when she was 57 years old! 
♥ - family headcanon: Maggie B loved a full house! Even before she was the king’s mother her house had always been full of people visiting, notably her half-siblings, the St Johns, and her half-brother, Sir John Welles. She sought the advancement of her nieces and nephews: one of her nephews, Sir Richard Pole, married Margaret of Clarence, for example, and her nieces Elizabeth and Eleanor St John were raised in her household. The king paid for the festivities of Elizabeth St John’s wedding. It seems Margaret was greatly interested in the future of children, including her royal grandchildren: she constantly brought them presents, and it seems she rewarded the queen’s midwives after each birth. We know that she paid for servants to go to Queen Margaret in Scotland so as to bring her news about her granddaughter. All-in-all she was the biggest gemini who liked being surrounded by company and knowing all that was going on with her family.
Elizabeth of York
♥ - family headcanon: We know Elizabeth was very close to her children, but she was also very close to her sisters (she paid them pensions even after they were married and even looked after their children, Katherine’s in particular) and that’s why I think Princess Katherine was named after her sister Katherine of York, rather than after Princess Catalina. Katherine of York was the chief mourner at Elizabeth’s funeral which implies she was with Elizabeth when she died and possibly with her sister during her niece’s birth. That she was attending the queen is also possible given that her husband was imprisoned at the time under suspicion of plotting with Edmund de la Pole. So, most likely Katherine of York was princess Katherine’s godmother, and we know that according to tradition the godparents were the ones to name the child during the baptism/christening. Elizabeth of York had known her sister Katherine all her life. In comparison, Elizabeth of York knew Princess Catalina for a total of two weeks at most. Also, compared to Katherine of York, it is unlikely that Catherine of Aragon attended the princess’s baptism at the Tower.
Henry VII
☾ - sleep headcanon: In my modern AU Henry VII goes to sleep very late and wakes up very early and is borderline insomniac lelel Ok, this is largely based on his reputation to be a workaholic but I’m not pulling this headcanon out of my arse: Henry VII was greatly relieved when they finally captured Perkin Warbeck because he had not been able to sleep very well (and was probably suffering from some sort of anxiety disorder). After Warbeck surrendered, Henry claimed that at last he had been ‘cured of those privy stitches which ... had long [been] about his heart and had sometimes broken his sleep’. 
★ - sad headcanon: Whyyy would you ask for a sad headcanon hhh almost all of Henry’s life was sad! That’s the thing about him, though, he is a tragic figure, especially because there was a moment in her life where he finally got to be the hero and then everything started slowly crumbling down. We know how miserable he was after the deaths of Prince Arthur and Elizabeth (and presumably, Jasper), but many people don’t realise that starting in 1499 Henry lost many friends and loyal supporters who had been following him since his days in exile. Cardinal Morton, arguably a father figure, died in 1499; Reginald Bray, a friend and the head of the king’s fiscal policies so far, died in 1503, not long after Elizabeth of York. Daubeney, which people have called to be the equivalent of what William Hastings was to Edward IV, Henry’s Lord Chamberlain, fell ill whilst travelling with the king and died shortly after in 1508. Richard Pole, the king’s cousin and who had also served as his chamberlain for some time, died in 1504 (if I’m not mistaken). In short, Henry VII progressively lost all of his friends at the same time when he was also losing many members of his family. Henry VII’s last years were nothing short of tragic; I think he had always been a lonely child, and then as he got to the end of his life he must have felt like that lonely child again.
Margaret Tudor
★ - sad headcanon: I headcanon Margaret as the biggest daddy’s girl hh and from what we got from her letters as soon as she went to Scotland, she was homesick, but above all missing her father! I think losing her mother must have been a terrible blow to her (from Elizabeth’s accounts it seems they were constantly together by the time of her mother’s death), and then she had to be separated from the one parent that was left to her. From her letters it seems she was also saddened by what she perceived as James’s lack of interest in her: she goes on to say something along the lines of the king doesn’t pay attention to me as he should, that is, she was used to seeing her father the king paying a great deal of attention to her mother the queen, and thought that was how marriage looked like. Many people think that Henry VIII sought in his successive marriages what his parents had but I think that Margaret (and Mary) also wanted to have a marriage similar to her parents’. 
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[DCA Event] - Six Queens Event Part 3
[Aragon - No Way]
When it was Evonie who had the spotlight, she let all the frustration of the ghost take over but still kept a steady pace with it so she doesn’t entirely lose herself. Remembering Professor Faustus’ warning to NOT let them take over you even if you sympathize with their pain and frustrations. 
With a confident stride she played the part of the wife who has had enough of B.S. from his highness, King Henry.
Vil is impressed, the golden shine of her costume along with the way she carried herself, truly resembled a queen. He did the “Z” snap whenever Evonie made statements on why the king was an old wrinkled disaster who didn’t know what the HELL he was doing.
Evonie: So far, I’ve been shat on by fate! But I did my best to keep my composure, was supposed to marry Prince Arthur but he died? Okay fine, whatever! Got engaged to Prince Henry even though he was my dead husband’s brother? Okay, whatever! 
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Sleep around with women all the time while making B.S. excuses? OKAY! Fine by me! But trying to replace me with a side chick in MY palace and dump me into a nunnery? NO WAY!
Vil: Tell him sister!
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Some of the audience nodded or made grunts to signify the fact that they’ve been there, sister.
When she started singing, her eyes started to glow but it wasn’t noticeable by the audience due to the lights. Every verse, she sang with a frustrated voice sang in a rhythmic defiance.
Somewhere in the song, people started to dance along to the chorus. And then came the part where she sang softly
Evonie: You got me down on my knees, please tell me what you think I’ve done wrong? Been humble, been loyal I’ve tried to swallow my pride all along... If you could just explain a single thing I've done to cause you pain...
I’ll go~
(Awkward Silence)
Jack and Deuce both thought that the king wasn’t a good man to be a husband, let alone a father. (Respect women juice)
The audience chuckles when she stares blankly as if waiting for a reply, and they laugh when she pretends to check on her nonexistent watch.
Then when she sang the chorus loudly, she can feel the ghost’s possession fading a bit but it wasn’t entirely gone. Though it just means that she’ll be less likely to act differently now.
At the end of the song the crowd cheered.
But then, it was time to introduce another queen...
[Boleyn - Don't Lose Your Head]
As the queens do their introduction of Allison’s character. Allison felt the ghost send feelings of conceit and she felt like being bratty. She can tango with the ghost, it takes two to dance. She puts on a smug face as the queens parted ways to reveal her.  Her green eyes started to glow brighter.
Riddle was fiddling in his seat, his impression of Allison was more on an immature image so he’s having thoughts on how she’ll pull off the role.
When they revealed her with a phone, he just crosses his arms with an unsure expression. But when she signaled the music to start and acted like some conceited mean girl he was VERY shook.
Who knew Allison could pull of the act well. Cater whistled on how much she resembled a proud barbie character. Trey thought how fitting this act was for Allison, but also the dorm cause he knows very well the students wouldn’t want to “lose their head”.
Ace was losing it, his mouth hung open in an amused way. Deuce, bless him, tried to take in all the info just in case Professor Trein wanted an essay on the play. (Boi better not include the edited persona bits, the actual queens did NOT act like that XD)
When she got to the part that roasted the king about not getting it up, Ace and Cater both said, “Oof! burn!”
But what stole the tart was this part...
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Queens: What was she meant to do-
Allison: Oh my god, you guys he seriously wants to chop my head off!
Audience: *Chuckles*
Allison: I mean... I guess he just really liked my head.
Riddle and Deuce: 
Trey just had his eyes wide while Ace and Cater covered their mouths, their elementary brain cells giggling at the dirty joke.
Even a good amount of the audience screamed at the unexpected dirty joke. Epel glances to he side and sees Vil with a disgusted look on his face. Jack nervously glances at Ortho and hoped that Idia-senpai won’t send him to the underworld for something he couldn’t control.
Divus chuckled at the bold choice of writing the scenario. Crowley had his image of the DCA student body shattered. (Chill out bird brain, it was a character!)
Allison let her energy out with a sporadic dance. The ghost’s possession lessened but not entirely, two down, four to go.
The song ends with the light on Allison’s head to signify her beheading.
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Epel laughed loudly at that it startled Vil. But he recovered and bonked Epel on his lavender head.
Allison: What a weekend... I’m like literally dead!
Cerule: Umm, did you actually die?
Allison: Yeah and it was so extra! So I’m obvs the winner so I think I’m gonna sing another solo.
This was when I found out that Catherine of Aragon had tragically died, *Snort* it’s called wearing yellow to a funeral. 
Catherine was a MASSIVE CU-
Rozeline and Vidya: NO! STOP!
Ace laughed loudly with no consequences, Trey is trying to stop Riddle from collaring him. Cater’s camera was shaking cause he was laughing too.
Jack thanks that there’s censorship for Ortho. Silently praying for his and the boy’s soul.
Floyd was laughing so much that Jade and Azul had to cover his mouth because his teeth and laugh scared a teenager sitting nearby.
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On June 22, the Catholic Church honors the life and martyrdom of St. Thomas More, the lawyer, author and statesman who lost his life opposing King Henry VIII's plan to subordinate the Church to the English monarchy.
Thomas More was born on 7 February 1478, son of the lawyer and judge John More and his wife Agnes.
He received a classical education from the age of six.
At age 13, he became the protege of Archbishop John Morton, who also served an important civic role as the Lord Chancellor.
Although Thomas never joined the clergy, he would eventually come to assume the position of Lord Chancellor himself.
More received a well-rounded college education at Oxford, becoming a “renaissance man” who knew several ancient and modern languages. He was also well-versed in mathematics, music and literature.
His father, however, determined that Thomas should become a lawyer, so he withdrew his son from Oxford after two years to focus him on that career.
Despite his legal and political orientation, Thomas was confused in regard to his vocation as a young man.
He seriously considered joining either the Carthusian monastic order or the Franciscans.
He followed a number of ascetic and spiritual practices throughout his life – such as fasting, corporal mortification, and a regular rule of prayer – as means of growing in holiness.
In 1504, however, More was elected to Parliament.
He gave up his monastic ambitions, though not his disciplined spiritual life, and married Jane Colt of Essex.
They were happily married for several years and had four children together, though Jane tragically died in childbirth in 1511.
Shortly after her death, More married a widow named Alice Middleton, who proved to be a devoted wife and mother.
Two years earlier, in 1509, King Henry VIII had acceded to the throne.
For years, the king showed fondness for Thomas, working to further his career as a public servant.
He became a part of the king's inner circle, eventually overseeing the English court system as Lord Chancellor.
More even authored a book published in Henry's name, defending Catholic doctrine against Martin Luther.
More's eventual martyrdom would come as a consequence of Henry VIII's own tragic downfall.
The king wanted an annulment of his marriage to Catherine of Aragon, a marriage that Pope Clement VII declared to be valid and indissoluble.
By 1532, More had resigned as Lord Chancellor, refusing to support the king's efforts to defy the Pope and control the Church.
In 1534, Henry VIII declared that every subject of the British crown would have to swear an oath affirming the validity of his new marriage to Anne Boleyn.
Refusal of these demands would be regarded as treason against the state.
In April of that year, a royal commission summoned Thomas to force him to take the oath affirming the King's new marriage as valid.
While accepting certain portions of the act which pertained to Henry's royal line of succession, he could not accept the king's defiance of papal authority on the marriage question.
More was taken from his wife and children, and imprisoned in the Tower of London.
For 15 months, More's wife and several friends tried to convince him to take the oath and save his life, but he refused.
In 1535, while More was imprisoned, an act of Parliament came into effect declaring Henry VIII to be “the only supreme head on earth of the Church in England,” once again under penalty of treason.
Members of the clergy who would not take the oath began to be executed.
In June 1535, More was finally indicted and formally tried for the crime of treason in Westminster Hall.
He was charged with opposing the king's “Act of Supremacy” in private conversations, which he insisted had never occurred.
But after his defense failed, and he was sentenced to death, he finally spoke out in open opposition to what he had previously opposed through silence and refusal.
More explained that Henry's Act of Supremacy was contrary “to the laws of God and his holy Church.”
He explained that “no temporal prince” could take away the prerogatives that belonged to St. Peter and his successors according to the words of Christ.
When he was told that most of the English bishops had accepted the king's order, More replied that the saints in heaven did not accept it.
On 6 July 1535, the 57-year-old More came before the executioner to be beheaded.
“I die the king's good servant,” he told the onlookers, “but God's first.”
His head was displayed on London Bridge but later returned to his daughter Margaret who preserved it as a holy relic of her father.
Thomas More was beatified by Pope Leo XIII on 29 December 1886. He was canonized by Pope Piux XI on 19 May 1935.
The Academy Award-winning film “A Man For All Seasons” portrayed the events that led to his martyrdom.
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A Man for All Seasons (1966 film)
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A Man for All Seasons (1988 television film)
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what about,,,, kids content,,,, with ed specifically,,,, maybe 🥺,,, maybe he could be a bit distant?? <- an ask for a wonderful person! @drop-the-curtain-123
It was hard ya know? Having to listen to your mom and your stepmothers perform every night. It was hard for Edward to sit in the wings and watch as his mother told the story of her life and tragic death, with a smile on her face.
He had only been back a few months, and getting used to a new world was really nerve wracking for him. Edward tried to learn as much as he could from his siblings and his mothers, as to what this world really contained. But the biggest issue he was facing was his mom. He grew up hearing about her, and the love she had for him, but he was raised by different women. Either the maids, or Anna for a little while, Katherine was more of a sister, and then Cathy. But at that point, he was estranged from most people, instead spending a lot of time with his father, learning about how to rule.
He spent his very short life preparing to be a leader, and now he is just another common child in a world with no king! That was something that took a while to get used to. Edward spent a lot of time with Cathy in the library, reading everything about anything, it was never enough. He wanted to understand this world and by King George, he was gonna try his best. He spent a lot of time with the other queens too. Catherine would take him with her to church, giving him a bit of solace when he missed his old life. 
Anne played games with him, whether sports, or board games, or video, he loved getting to do that. With Anna, he learned lessons about life, while also starting to relax. She taught him about things from this world, and how to do a lot of outdoor activities. Katherine would take Edward to go get coffee and to the parks, to get a sense of love for nature. He loved getting to spend time with them.
The only person he didn’t spend a whole lot of time with, was his mom. He tried, Edward really tried to be around her. But every time he tried, he would become distant. Hearing how she died because of giving birth to him, the pain she went through, it made him guilty. And while he knew some of the queens from his past life, he knew absolutely nothing about his mother. For her part, Jane tried her best to connect with him and get him interested in things that she thought he would like. But it never lasted long, as Edward would pull away and just hide in his shell.
Today was no different, the queens were practicing for a show and the children were backstage watching the warm ups. Lizzie was laughing as her mom made Aragon “upset” during don’t lose your head. Mary was laughing at the them, it took her a while to understand them, but she got it. Edward was sitting alone, reading, humming along to the songs softly. He liked going to the rehearsals well enough, he just got lonely at times. He was in a room full of people, and he had never felt more alone. Deciding to head outside for some air, Edward stands up with a deep sigh.
“Where you going princey?” Anna asked jokingly, ruffling his hair. He smiled and looked at her, “I’m just gonna go get some air I think.” She nods as he walks to the door. “Eddie Wait!” Turning around Edward sees his mother walking quickly towards him. “Can I join you please?” Jane asks with a soft gaze. Shrugging his shoulders, Edward holds the door for her and they go to a bench outside the theater. “I- I just want to check in on you. I know transitioning from the past to now has been difficult for you and I’m so sorry that you had to go through it I want you to know that you can come to me okay? We didn’t get to spend a lot of time together when you were born and I’m sorry for that, I wish it could have been different. I want you to know that I am always gonna be here for you and I love you no matter what. You’re my pride and joy and I hope you realize that you have people here who cherish and truly care about you. Don’t think I don’t notice when you drift away, or sit in silence while everyone is together. You don’t need to be so shut in. I hope you feel comfortable here, and if I can help you in any way, please tell me.” Jane is rambling at this point, but she’s kept it all in too long.
 She needs her baby to know how much he is cared for. Sniffles are heard and she turns her head. There’s a single tear rolling down her precious child’s face. Reaching up to wipe it, she cradles his cheek in her hand. “It’s hard mom. Things are different, people are different. I’m okay a lot of the time, I have you guys around me. But that’s also the issue. I don’t know what to feel when I’m around you.” He says looking away from her. Hurt, Jane replies, “what do you mean?”
“You died!! You died because of me! And you act like me being here is so good but you wouldn’t be here if you hadn’t have had such a horrible experience in the past life!” He yells, finally telling her what he’s been keeping for months. Jane gasps and pulls away from him. “Yo-you think that you caused this?” Tears filled her eyes. “I knew what I was risking when I had you. Me and your father found out together and I knew in that moment, I just knew, I would give my entire life up for you. All I ever wanted in this world and the last, was to be a mother. It hurt, a lot. I will not lie about that. But when I got to see you, even for that split second, I knew it was worth it. I always was ready to risk my life for yours because that’s what mothers do. And I’m also glad to have gone,”
 Edward turns his head at this, not believing his ears. “Because I came back. And so did you. And now we have a true and good family. One that loves and accepts us no matter what. And I wouldn’t trade that or the time we spend together for anything. Not even to be married to a king.” Jane holds his chin in her hand, watching the flutter of emotions pass through his face. “You were, are, and always will be my greatest gift and my best risk.” He breaks in this moment, pulling his mom into him. 
Curling his head right above her heart he cries, all the feelings that he hasn’t expressed in so long, all coming forward. “I love you mom..” “I love you to my little king.” Hearing sniffles behind them, the pair turn to see the others standing there with tears on their cheeks. Anne has Lizzie in one arm, the other wrapped around Aragon, who is holding Mary close. Anna has Kat pulled into a bear hug, playing with her hair softly. Lastly, Cathy is holding little Mae, rocking her slowly. Every one of the queens knew and felt those words in their hearts. 
The passing of emotions was always there. “We-we didn’t mean to interrupt. We just wanted to see how it was going!” Kat whimpers our as she wipes the tears from her eyes. “That’s alright. Everything is fine. We all are here and that what matters okay?” Jane smiles at her family and looks at her son. “See, you don’t ever have to feel like you don’t belong there is always someone willing to listen and try to help, in any way we can.” Edward smiles, that smile when you’re crying but you get that happy burst in your heart, and he pulls his mom to her feet.
Meeting with the other queens, a family hug pile commences, a mess of limbs and crying women, but it’s the closest thing to home Edward has felt in a while. And for once, he knows it’s gonna be all fine.
Editor’s note: hi I’m sorry it took so long but there’s been a lot of stuff. But here it is and I hoped I got some of what you wanted to read in here. I really love Edward and momma Jane.
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How accurate are the Six the Musical characters to the real six wives? I’m sure the musical wives weren’t ment to be completely accurate but would like to know how accurate the writers got
Good question! You know, I think part of it is whatever your personal interpretation is.
I have to be honest, I kinda think the characterizations of all the wives in the musical are a bit one-note and don’t really have a ton of dimension. Catherine of Aragon is pretty much the stereotypical “Saint Catherine”, Anne Boleyn is shallow and vapid, Jane Seymour’s whole thing is just about how she died, Anna of Cleves is the “I don’t need no man” one, Katheryn Howard’s whole character revolves around her being young and traumatized, and Kathryn Parr is the True Feminust™️.
I understand that the musical is very short and each wife only gets one song so there isn’t time to really dive into all the complexities of each of these women so, I mean, I suppose I can’t blame them for having such singular personalities.
As for how they relate to the real wives, again I think part of it is personal interpretation. Aside from the characters not being as complex as the real women, I feel like the only wife the writers captured pretty well was Anna of Cleves. I think Catherine of Aragon would probably say that the writers captured her well, but I think she thought herself more righteous than she really was. I’m sure Kathryn Parr would also like her portrayal as well, but I don’t necessarily think it’s accurate. For one thing, the show completely ignores how Kathryn Parr just kinda stood by while her husband molested and sexually assaulted her former step-daughter (and she may have even participated in the abuse depending on how you look at it). But I suppose that probably wouldn’t go over well in the light-hearted nature of the musical. I actually find Jane kind of annoying in the show because it’s like “okay we get it, you died, get a new thing”. Honestly her death was one of the least tragic of all the wives. Although I have to say, I do think that’s probably exactly what Jane would be like in the afterlife. I know we don’t know very much about Jane before she was Queen but there’s nothing in the musical about her actual relationship with Henry and her Queenship. Contrary to what the show states, Henry didn’t actually love her and he treated her very poorly. Their relationship was only perfect after she died because Henry romanticized her in his head because she gave him his son and then died before he could get rid of her on his own. And I said earlier that in the show, Katheryn Howard is the traumatized one. I actually don’t think Katheryn would like her portrayal in Six very much because her whole song is just about her relationships with men and nothing about who she really was as a person. She was actually very intelligent and clever and a very fun-loving person. And then there’s Anne. Oh god, Anne rolls over in her grave every time someone plays “Don’t Lose Ur Head”. I mean, talk about completely butchering her personality. What can I possibly say that I haven’t said already? The only portrayal of Anne worse than Six the Musical is The Other Boleyn Girl. I mean, at least in Six Anne isn’t just a straight-up cold-hearted bitch. The real Anne Boleyn was highly intelligent, very political, deeply religious. I mean, yeah she did have a fun-loving side to her but Six portrays her as a complete airhead. And don’t even get me started on the complete lack of any mention of Elizabeth except in that one stupid throwaway line.
If I had to rank them, I’d say Anna of Cleves is the most accurate (although not nearly as multi-dimensional as the real Anna), Catherine of Aragon and Kathryn Parr have varying degrees of accuracy, Jane Seymour is okay, and Katheryn Howard and Anne Boleyn are just abysmal.
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