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absolutebl · 2 years

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I've been showing a good friend BL twice a week since early pandemic. She's seen a lot of the best stuff, and recently finished To My Star 2. We were discussing how the seme/uke and top/bottom perceptions affect how the characters are portrayed.

With TMS2, I commented that the scenes we get to the end where they keep switching who is big and little spoon felt like a tasteful way to show that they were versatile. We also noted that Pat and Pran are never shown in a way that confirms their positions.

Does your spreadsheet track anything regarding top/bottom presentation, and do you have thoughts on BL and how it presents this?

Verse Characters in BL

What an interesting question.

Well I would argue that Fighter & Tutor are the only Thai BL couple who are explicitly verse, in their case they talk about it openly in terms of "showing ownership" which is pretty clearly code for who fucks whom. As in, the idea of being taken or taking (invasion) = ownership. Trust a BL script to use the language of war for an act of communication and connection.

My spreadsheet doesn’t track this because it’s so rare. I remember a couple other times getting very excited about it (other than Why R U?) but not which shows.

Okay here’s our biggest example:

Cornered Mouse Dreams of Cheese shows them verse (explicitly depicts the sex act both ways), but it’s one of Japan’s discussions about the nature of identity and intimacy and possession. It could actually be argued that the whole movie is a debate of what seme/uke means and does to its characters, what obsession means, how long term devotion without consequences of boundaries corrupts. It’s kind of like the very dark version of what could have happened to the characters in My Beautiful Man if they had never managed to find each other and reconcile (and Hira learn to accept and express himself). The leads in CMDoC are genuinely at war, so the lens showing us who fucks whom as an expression of who is winning the narrative battle at that point in time.

Look, I don’t like this movie, but apparently if it’s Japan I’m always going to have a lot to say.

I mean there needs to be enough self aware queerness in the BL to realize this should even be addressed - otherwise just slap seme/uke on it and conflate personality with sexual preference (SIGH).

Also the BL has to somewhat follow the characters into the bedroom, and it would need to be higher heat which, in and of itself, is pretty rare.

So I did a heat ranking, then a ratings sort (since I’m more likely to rate verse characters higher) and here’s a short list of ones for which a case for verse... could be made.

Why R U? - Fighter & Tutor (no question - couched in a request to “prove/show ownership”)

My Day - Ace & Sky (also I think this is pretty clear via their sex scenes - they were the other ones I was thinking of, also they engage in some fun light kink, I LOVE these two)

To My Star 1 & 2 - implied by the cuddling debate in 2

Bad Buddy - actually they imply, when asked at one point, that it’s still open to debate between them, so we don’t know what they settled on but given their dynamic, probubly verse

HIStory 2: Crossing the Line - ZiXuan & YuHao, I mean YuHao's fantasies go both ways so I think he, at least, is verse

Mr Cinderella - mostly because of the linguistic grappling, but also both actors have a history of the seme role (clearly also implied top) in their other BLs, they swap tropes around a lot too in this one

His the movie - it’s just... not important

Ai no Kotodama - I actually think they have a kinda conversation about this, it’s been a long time since I watched it though, and 2010 = intentionally confusingly vague about everything

Boys Love - right so there’s a bit of an underpinning dialogue about this in both installments. In both cases I think the “teacher” is meant to be the bottom, but also the student is so desperate and so needy there’s an implication that he would do ANYTHING, including alter his whole identity (even sexual preference as a top) in order to be with the object of his desire, which is part of what makes their love destructive - it cannot and does not conform to... anything, least of all seme/uke (which at the time, when present, was always conflated with Top/bottom).

Either of KarnNat’s pieces, I mean I think Nat is meant to be the catcher, but they don’t act their higher heat scenes that way, it’s extremely mutual, and power exchange back and forth in terms of who kisses whom and stuff.

Frankly, any of the couples who have no seme uke are open to debate since in Thai BL especially Top/bottom = Seme/uke (it shouldn’t, but in the narrative it’s implied). BL couples where there is no seme/uke

Be Loved in House: I Do - YuZhen & ShiLei, maybe

Double Mints - fuck ‘em, though

Ingredients

My Tee

Wish You

Second Chance - PaperFah

Seven Days

So Much in Love - North & Onsah, there’s no seme/uke in this Thai pulp, but it’s so much a pulp and so confusing I’m not sure if that’s intentional or just failure of narrative clarity and poor acting

Your Name Engraved Herein - I am NEVER watching this movie again, but from my recollection of the characters’ behaviors, maybe?

Gameboys 2 - I have only seen discussion here and the previews, but I think they make this pretty clear in conversation and behavior

Hey Rival I Love You - certainly entirely up in the air in all ways

Love is Science? - Mark & Ouwen, I think the flip flopping of who’s on top/in charge in their sex scene implies general experimental willingness, shall we say?

HIStory 3: Trapped - TangYi & ShaoFei, possibly, ShaoFei is hesitant because he’d scared, but that’s of the implications and intimacy of being a couple, not really of sex. After all he runs away when TangYi is too nice and gentle with him.

I honestly think My Engineer 2 should go there with RamKing. They are perfect characters and actors to do this with. But Thailand really doesn’t have the guts.

Other pairs who I think can and should rep verse?

First & Toru

PokeTongue

MaxTul could absolutely portray verse. Why they haven’t yet is a weakness of Thai BL and y-novels inability to stop heterosexually vomiting all over their gays.

Weirdly? EarthMix, I think they could and should do a bit of a FighterTutor sitch in Moonlight Chicken.

Crosses arms.

Impress me, GMMTV.

A reminder:

So top/bottom/verse is difficult because it means we follow the characters into the bedroom AND have a glimpse into their penetration preferences, that means very high heat, and there is (statistically) less of that in BL.

As opposed to Dom/sub/switch which plays into personality and correlates better (but not perfectly) to a seme uke dynamic because it is about who has the power to make decisions.

And my definition of Seme/uke - which is the character showing the most narrative drive to consummate the relationship (physically or otherwise) = seme.

Finally:

Sexual preference does not correlate to personality! Please stop this. I put it to you in het terms:

If you are a straight women who likes to ride reverse cowgirl style does this show up in your personality as you walk around in your day to day life? No it does not.

So a boy likes to fuck or be fucked - that’s like cake verse pie, it doesn't say anything about how aggressive that boy is in relationships. And prying into that dynamic is tantamount to me asking you about the details of your penetration preferences. (Which, to be fair, I probubly would, but I'm a curious, rude, intrusive shitmonger.)

Also, it behoves me to add, plenty of gay men do not like penetration at all. Plenty of straight women don’t like it. Or don’t like vaginal but do like a-play. And plenty of straight men like to be pegged. A-play has to do with how sensitive you are, how relaxed, how prepped, how much lube, whether you find the idea a turn on when applied to yourself, how self conscious you are, and a host of other factors.

Puts proverbial soap box away while reminding you that soap = also to be used prior to such encounters.

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gunsatthaphan · 2 years

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welp.... I guess we're not getting my engineer 2 then

looks like it 😂

for anyone who doesn't know:

I mean at this point it was only a matter of time before they announce it but yeah. still sad that we won't get to see them again 😔

xxx

#my engineer #my engineer 2 #perth nakhun #lay talay #inntouch naphat #bye bye my engineer

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lenny-link · 27 days

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TF2 x Steven Universe ⭐️

guess who’s bacc with another crossover au that nobody asked for 😎

pls dont ask me about lore/story/drawing fusions i have no idea i just wanted to draw the mercs as gems lol

but id love to hear ur ideas!

edit: if you ever wanna draw about this go ahead! just tag me :)

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engieandhisguitar · 1 month

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HEYA PEOPLE FROM TUMBLR!! SORRY FOR NOT POSTING HERE, im more active in my insta here it is!! Niet_dashi YES I LIKE SOO MUCH HEAVY, ENGINEER AND DEMOMAN, THEY ARE SO PRECIOUS TO ME

yall are so sweet, i camt put in words how u guys are so inviting and, like, GWAAAH- IM RUNNING AWAY THANKS FOR EVERYTHING!!!

#fanart #team fortress 2 #tf2 #my art #tf2 fanart #art #engineer tf2 #tf2 medic #tf2 art #tf2 demoman #tf2 soldier #tf2 heavy #digitalart #digital art #drawing

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seagiri · 3 months

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gravel

#my art #tf2 #soldier #engineer #team fortress 2 #helmet party #soldier tf2 #engineer tf2 #it's not meant to make sense. this was just me free handing stuff and just having fun ^_^#btw im not a comic artist and barely a storyboarder so sorry if this is eyestraining LOL #PLEASE IGNORE THE TYPO IT WAS 7 AM NO SLEEP NO FOOD 😢

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accecakes · 4 months

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I like tf2 :3

#tf2 #team fortress 2 #valve #steam #viddy game #scout #soldier #demoman #sniper #pyro #engineer #heavy #medic #spy #ms pauling #the administrator #fanart #conga #bby boyz #my art

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vacueye · 1 month

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looking through old tf2 stuff again + felt like reuploading some of my favorite (mostly spy) art throughout the years

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vnynv · 1 year

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body practice

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charlioak · 9 months

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silly goose activities

#charli.png #tf2 #team fortress 2 #tf2 fanart #tf2 engineer #tf2 soldier #helmet party #fanart #digital illustration #to say i am obsessed would be a grave understatement.#they are living in my brain RENT FREE

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father-killjoy · 5 months

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The kiddos <3

#my kid Engie sketch has been plaguing me so I had to draw him again #this time featuring kiddo scrout :3 #ya ik they’re different ages in canon #but may I counter that argument with my own:#I wanted to draw them 😌#tf2 #team fortress 2 #tf2 fanart #team fortress fanart #tf2 scout #engineer tf2 #my art #digital art

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absolutebl · 2 years

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Hello! I recently finished My Engineer and I'm, of course, in love with RamKing.

Side note, I saw Perth replied to a comment on his yt channel saying that part 4 of the RamKing retrospective is filmed already, if that's of interest.

I particularly enjoy Talay's acting so I've been wondering if you know where I can watch YYY? I've been searching and I don't find it anywhere official and even the gray versions look terrible.

I just need more Talay (and his lovely hair) in my life

Of course!

And yes, I am a HUGE fan of Talay too.

Lay Talay Sanguandikul

Here’s his BL back catalogue, sadly challenging to find.

Bitter Sweet - forthcoming, not sure where

My Engineer 2 - forthcoming, not sure where

War of Y - soon, not sure where international

Close Friend (original) opposite Yoon, grey I originally watched in on DramaCool

Y-Destiny opposite both Yoon & Perth (because, cheeky), grey I originally watched in on DramaCool

YYY, YYY Special, YYY Special: Episode 0, original YoonLay grey I originally watched these on DailyMotion but that was a long tiem ago and I really don’t like them

My Engineer original PerthLay, fortunately for us it’s on YouTube

Sai Lub Jub Abb - I’ve never seen this one

You can also catch him in an Indian web series called Rejctx on Wlext (not BL). He plays the bad boy of the private school and he’s very hot and acts mostly in English. If you see images like the ones below, they are form this series:

If you see images like the following it is from a BL series that never happened in which he played the seme role, we are all very sad it never materialized:

Others might be able to weigh in with better sources, but for some reason his stuff is all too often difficult to get ahold of.

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#Lay Talay Sanguandikul #Lay Talay #Talay Sanguandikul #thai actor #thai bl #Rejctx #Wlext #Sai Lub Jub Abb #My Engineer #PerthLay #YYY #YYY Special #YYY Special: Episode 0 #YoonLay #Y-Destiny #close friend the series #War of Y #My Engineer 2 #Bitter Sweet the series

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gunsatthaphan · 1 year

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me 🤡🤡🤡 because I'm still waiting for My engineer 2 to happen

we've been 🤡-ing for exactly 2.5 years now and we all know it's never gonna see the light of day and yet we keep the makeup on. I call that stamina--

#my engineer 2 #big sigh #the things we couldve had #i also dont think bitter sweet is happening anymore #will perth and talay ever collab again? probably not

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heretherebedork · 2 years

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... I am afraid, what have you read about RamKing's storyline?

Lots of, like, Ram ignores King and goes after a woman to hurt him/cheats on him... it was a while back, when people were actively talking about My Engineer 2 more, and it was a lot about how they hoped they would change the story to make it kinder.

But I have no actual idea. Most of what I read was secondhand on here and now I'm trying to remember it ages later so... you know.

I just remember not wanting to see it in a show, honestly.

#my engineer 2 #the bl that never was

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elkzilla · 9 months

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