fr rn i’m just losing it over these motherfuckers saying “steven universe not queer enough” like bro.......... we got a gay marriage proposal, gay wedding planning, and the onscreen gay wedding was in one of the most central episodes of the entire plot so nobody would be able to skip it. and that’s all one of several queer couples in the show and even more queer characters. just admit you don’t like that the message of the show was “sometimes even bad people are people and can be redeemed”
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Idk why there’s so much discourse about how creators executed lgbtq+ characters and storylines in animation (especially when it comes to content on cable). Like, did y’all have other shit to watch or something? Was there a whole bunch of queer media to indulge in that I missed or something?
Not to be an Old Bitch on main, but in 2011, when Adventure Time aired “What was Missing” and Marceline dropped that broken hearted love song, there was NOTHING else like it. Like that shit changed the game! Everyone was collectively surprised that a major network would even HINT at giving us a queer character. (And the reason it didn’t get bigger sooner was because of Capitalism, babe.)
Then like years later we got more game changing shit at an exponential rate (working alongside game changing legal and social achievements off air) like Korrasami in 2014(hella hindered by the network cuz of Capitalism), Ruby/Sapphire in 2015, a bunch of other stuff I missed cuz I was busy, until we finally got the blockbuster Bubbline on screen kiss and the Ruby/Sapphire wedding. Each one of these moments was equally game changing And Screwed By The Network.
Nickelodeon was hella meddling and underfunding Legend of Korra throughout its run and Especially during the last season when they made Korrasami canon because Nick didn’t want to lose viewership in certain regions (cuz money), which resulted in the last season ending Like That™. Iirc something similar happened with shows on CN and other networks, so it’s not an isolated phenomenon.
Personally, I don’t understand all the anger toward Steven Universe. I didn’t understand it while it was on air and I still don’t understand it now. Cuz looking at the landscape at the time, again I ask, Y’ALL HAD OPTIONS??? Cuz iirc queer programming on other networks were either behind a paywall (Netflix queer shit) or wasn’t Rated E for Everyone (Clexa and Copphine). Plus this was the only series out there explaining nb/bigender/they/them concepts to a wide audience. Like I was able to forgive and forget the fact that it didn’t show Every queer ID and whatever else they didn’t do perfectly, because, again, there wasn’t much else available.
Honestly, I don’t see the point of comparing each program to each other because each one is doing their best and building up from where the other got. Adventure Time helped Rebecca Sugar get the platform to create Steven Universe and SU helped create the next generation of queer creators creating queer programming for major networks. #ItsAllConnected and eventually comes around to help each other out. I honest to god think that the wide acceptance of AT’s content allowed SU to give us Ruby/Sapphire and the success of SU’s queerness allowed us the opportunity to canonize Bubbline.
Anyway, tl;dr calm down, be patient, be understanding, and for the love of god stop bullying content creators cuz they’re doing their best to give us everything we need.
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I just someone make this take trying to dismiss the importance of Ruby and Sapgire wedding;
“Ruby and sapphire are side charecters. Think how much more meaningful that would have been if it was an actual set of main charecters that actually had an impact on the story cause they stayed around so much.”
Like seriously? Side characters? Come on now. They have multiple episodes dedicated to them which explores their relationship, Ruby and Sapphire are one of the most important and iconic characters of Su.
I can’t with this takes
People saying this ^, or literally anyone trying to dismiss SU's queer rep as not valid for some reason or another, they just haven't watched su. No reasonable person would watch that show and conclude that ruby and sapphire were 'side characters'. If you wanted to say that the protagonist wasn't in a gay relationship i'd understand, but otherwise, you're just objectively wrong.
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