It’s so hard being an Adrien stan in this fandom. People are constantly nitpicking every little thing he does. He can never do right by them. It’s so frustrating. And that’s not even mentioning how he was treated in canon
I feel you anon. I wasn't actively posting for the fandom during the major salt periods, like right after the airing of Syren and then Chameleon, but I was around to see the ridiculous salt fests that would go on. People love to pick on Adrien for every single little thing that involves him making a decision that doesn't cater perfectly to Marinette's whims and needs, but woe be upon you if you say anything about Marinette that isn't praising her. It's not even like I have a problem with Marinette as a character. Some of her writing in Season 4 and 5? Yes. But in Seasons 1-3, I really loved her. She was such a breath of fresh air for me as a character. She was so full of charm and life and energy. But she got ruined for me by her stans who jumped to salt on every other character for not exactly agreeing with her every decision and for having minds of their own and having desires that weren't about her.
And another annoying part is their insistence that Marinette is treated oh so cruelly by the narrative and poor Marinette is always suffering and everyone is treating her so cruelly and she deserves better than people who aren't willing to be her faithful slaves. Then Seasons 4 and 5 brought this into canon, and then you saw people who were salting on Adrien for being upset about being neglected by his partner, and they were blaming him for "feeling entitled to her" despite never calling her out for her treatment of him. Lemme tell you, the chimney discourse was wild. And all that bullshit ass "discourse" about him harassing Ladybug, while ignoring all the stalking Marinette did and pretending it was nothing. I generally ignore anyone who says either of these things because they are clearly meant to be jokes, and I think calling Adrien a harasser is just as ludicrous as calling Marinette a stalker, but the double standard of taking the joke seriously for Adrien but not for Marinette is annoying, to say the least.
And ultimately they just want Adrien and everyone else to be Marinette's sidekicks/yes-men who will never disagree with her and will always do whatever she wants and will never think for themselves. And you unfortunately can see this attitude seeping into canon too, with how Adrien isn't allowed to have independent thoughts outside of how he can be of service to Marinette. Nothing matters for him, the only thing that matters is her and what he can do for her. She's allowed to yell at him and throw him into trashcans, but fuck him if he disagrees with her on something and isn't happy to just sit by and accept being replaced and ignored. And canon Adrienette is such a good example of this phenomenon.
But the salters will whine and rage about how Marinette is such a victim of the narrative and how she suffers so much that we should all excuse her less than perfect actions, while also raging at Adrien for any small slight and denying that he also suffers. I guess Marinette can be excused for being traumatized and stressed, but being a victim of horrific abuse is too less of a reason for Adrien to be excused, and I guess it means he isn't suffering. To them, only Marinette's feelings and suffering matters. And this has also become true for the show, because Adrien's feelings don't matter, only Marinette's feelings about him matter.
And the worst fucking thing I've seen from this fandom is the occasional post about how Adrien is "spineless" and "cowardly" and "doesn't have a backbone" because he is non-confrontational and doesn't get up in arms about everything. And, aside from the fact that there is absolutely nothing wrong with not flying into a righteous rage about everything, this is some fucking heavy victim blaming bullshit. Like, y'all know that Adrien is like that because he's a victim of abuse, right? That his actions are a trauma response, right? It's called fawning. How awful of Adrien to have been conditioned into being non-confrontational by an abusive father who wants him to be subservient to his every whim! How useless is he for being traumatized because of the abuse he suffers! What a loser!
Honestly, the deranged Marinette stans are the worst. If someone says that shit about Adrien, they can go fuck themselves honestly. The gall to accuse a character who is an abuse victim of being "a spineless worm who can't grow a backbone" (someone legit wrote this word for word). Acting like he's the scum of the earth for not agreeing with Marinette 24/7 and victim blaming him for not rising swords drawn the moment someone does something mean to her.
So yeah, I understand you anon. It's really annoying to see all these "hot takes" going around. But there are still many Marinette fans who are nice and don't say all this goofy shit about Adrien, and there are plenty of Adrien stans who love and defend our boy. My advice is to block the salt tags, follow the right blogs and curate your experience the best you can. Trust me, it took a while for me to learn to stop putting myself through the agony of looking through these salt posts and to start blocking tags and salters' blogs. But I'm better off for it now. It won't stop some of these posts from popping up here and there, but it'll massively improve your fandom experience.
Thank you for your ask!
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not a request, just wanna say i love the little banner thingies on your posts, they always match the theme of the board and i think that's so cool !!!! matchy matchy things make me incredibly happy, do you make them yourself?
Hello friend!! First, I just wanna say that I appreciate your message a lot! I try my best to make everything as intentional and matching as possible, so I'm very happy that it's noticed!!
Second, no I don't make them myself! Most of the banners you'll see on my page are by the very talented and cool @/tinyowlet!! His are almost exclusively the banners I use! He doesn't make them specifically for me (usually), but sometimes it feels like it because they fit so perfectly with my boards!! His are the ones that look like this! ↓
Additionally, sometimes I use this type by @/bug-babie!! ↓
And finally, I also sometimes use this type by @/llavenderkittyy!! ↓
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I think it's truly impossible for fans to commit to a "stop invading celebrities's privacy" approach, because fans aren't the ones invading. It's people making money off it who invade, who tell fans "this is where the person is", who stalk them and capture moments fans wouldn't even know to look for. It's definitely disheartening to see fans contribute to that, either swarming to rumored locations or ocassionally tipping people off to something that hadn't been noticed, but they're not the source of the problem.
Fans refusing to engage with the professional privacy violation absolutely can have an effect, even with pretty big names, but absolutely not when you get to the huge names like Swift and Styles and Rodriguez.
It's not a fan problem, it's a paparazzi problem and it's unreasonable to frame it as if fans can just band together and decide to act better.
you do raise a good point anon, i can definitely see how it came off that way. i just meant like engaging in as little of these invasive posts as possible, not making presumptuous theories or whatever about people, and obviously not banding together to meet at these areas. in the grand scheme of things however, i acknowledge that even the collective of fanbases choosing not to act, it won't stop the paparazzi's influence, especially at people like taylor swift's or harry styles's level.
what i was trying to get across was doing what we can as fans to minimize this problem as much as our influence can do. even if not everyone listens, it should just be a thing as respecting your fellow person in person and online, even if that person is an international celebrity. for example, the whole "love triangle" deal between olivia rodrigo, sabrina carpenter, and joshua bassett was a heavily fan-based movement where many people decided it was their business to butt their opinions in on these people they don't even know just because of songs? i won't get too into all that (today) but that's generally the gist of what i mean by "what the fuck, fanbase"
but once again, yeah my post definitely wasn't the best at wording it and definitely made it seem like i was putting more blame on the fans than i meant to. i guess i just wasn't expecting it to be taken on such a wide scale since one, it was like fourteen (14) words, two, i have but a humble little blog and three, i'm not taylor swift herself but again i 100% get the interpretation!!
i'm open to hear any more opinions on this but i hope this alleviates something in ya lol
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Villain was a lesser villain, often doing small jobs for bigger villains. He generally stays out of the spotlight, only participating to make ends meet. He goes mostly ignored up until he makes the mistake of acquainting himself with Supervillain. She takes an interest in him, drawing the attention of the heroes. When they find out about her big plan, they kidnap Villain and torture Villain for information he may or may not have. Their primary method is by forcing him to puke. His power is saliva-based acid generation.
Weirdest ask I have ever had, thank you. Enjoy!
Villain was asleep.
This was a good thing and a bad thing.
A good thing because finally the Heroes left him alone enough for him to be able to sleep properly, soundly, dreamlessly.
A bad thing because Darwin had just walked into his cell and was about to disturb his sweet, dreamless slumber to drag him back awake and onto the endless torture he is currently enduring under the Heroes care.
This time it was a bucket of ice water that was thrown in Villain’s face to wake him. Which, in hindsight, was quite tame of them. The Heroes must be getting soft on him.
He still gasped awake like he was a fish out of water and threw his body forwards in shock, only to have the leather restraints on his wrists and legs drag him back to the chair he was currently in.
“GOOD MORNING, VILLAIN!” Darwin bellowed, all teeth and smirking lips as he threw the bucket to the wall. “How are we doing today friend?”
“You’re such a fucking douchebag.”
“Ahhh!! Chipper as ever!” Darwin said, going to stand around the back of the chair. Villain was ready for the chair transitioning into a panel and sliding forwards slightly. “I’m here, of course, to talk about your friend, Supervillain. Tell me— why is currently burning half of the city alive?”
Villain’s eyes narrowed. Supervillain wouldn’t do that, she wouldn’t. She cared about people in the city. She wouldn’t hurt people.
“She’s not,” said Villain matter-of-factly, and Darwin grinned as he came to stand in front of Villain again.
“Aha!! I just cannot seem to fool you, Villain. I guess that is what endeared Supervillain to you in the first place, is it not?”
“It is not! I’m not friends with supervil—“ but Villain didn’t get to finish his sentence before Darwin’s fingers were down his throat, tickling his gag reflex and Villain could feel the acid climb his throat and Darwin gave a little laugh as he took his hand out, now made of gleaming titanium, and watched as Villain’s vomit joined the puddle from yesterday. Bubbling and frothing and green and vile.
Villain spit after it, the taste of Darwin’s sweaty hand making him want to vomit again. “Once, man. Just once would it kill you to wash your fucking hands?”
“I see! You want stick now, jah?” And Villain went pale.
“No. No, no no I don’t want the stick. Your hand is fine. I love the taste of the sweat and dirt and grim. Darwin? Darwin! DARWIN DON’T GET THE STICK PLEASE!”
“Well!! You must be want to tell me about your Supervillain friend now, hmm? Or perhaps… lover?” Darwin asked his eyebrows drawing up suggestively, pulling up a chair just before the vomit puddle between them.
“Okay,” Villain cried defeated. “Okay. I— I met Supervillain when I was doing a job. It was just a simple job, one of the best for Vulcan.”
“Ah yes. Fire breathing villain?”
“Jah,” said Villain, then said quickly: “yeah, I mean yeah. He employs me sometimes when he needs um, well, acid to burn through bank locks. I’m not proud of it, but it pays the rent okay? It’s an easy job too, he just wants me to vomit into tubes that he can throw and it’s like an acid bomb, right?”
“Right, jah. I follow. Continue.”
“So I was doing another job for him, it’s easy I can do it from home. Except he didn’t come to pick up the ship it was Supervillain who showed up at my door and she was very…”
Darwin tilted his head, nodding as he said: “sexy?”
“No!” Villain said quickly, then he coughed and said: “I mean like, she is very attractive—“
“I know this. That alone should be a crime!” Darwin cried and it almost looked like he was going to actually cry. Villain just cocked a brow.
“Uh, yeah. So anyways. She was very invasive, is what I meant to say. Wanted to know more about my power. Told me Vulcan did some jobs for her but he was messing her around with payments and stuff, so she wanted to get the acid bombs straight from me.”
“I see…” Darwin nodded. “So, she recruited you then?”
“No. Employed. Distantly! I promise. That’s all I do! I make the acid bombs, and then she gets someone to pick them up and that’s it!”
Darwin’s eyes narrowed. “I feel there is more to this story. You don’t tell me I get the stick.”
“Okay! Okay!” Villain said, licking his lips and clearing his throat. “So she came to me one night and she said she wanted to get a drop on the heroes and the Hero tower. So she asked me to help her.”
“Make more acid bombs?” Darwin asked and Villain nodded.
“Yeah kind of. Only her plan was far more ambitious than that.”
“Okay. Good. You tell Darwin and I will cut you down.”
“Well, she knew you were going to find me and torture me for information on here—“
Darwin let out a booming laugh. “Of course! Does her intelligence know no bounds? Oh what a criminal mastermind!”
Villain blinked. “Uh-huh. Anyways, she said since this was gonna happen anyways that I should allow myself to get caught and be tortured for a day or two until I created enough acid to create a hole big enough for her and her friends to crawl through and invade the Hero tower without raising the alarm.”
Darwin stood with such force his chair was forced back. “You what?” he asked, shocked but Villain was already vomiting, this time with his actual acid. The hole formed in the floor and there was Supervillain below in the sewer tunnels climbing out, somehow still looking immaculate like she was just off the red carpet.
Darwin’s eyes went wide. “S-s-supervillain,” Darwin said, his tan face gone pale and Supervillain grinned at him, strutting over and looking down at him.
“Darwin, my sweet Hero. Have you been torturing my Good Samaritan over here for information on me?”
Darwin nodded sadly. “Yes…”
“Oh dear. You could have just rang me.”
“But that is not professional! I can’t mix work and pleasure, you know this. Company policy.”
Supervillain frowned, her hand on his throat. “Pity.”
Villain heard the resounding crack, and flinched as she threw Darwin down the hole into the sewers. Then she turned to face Villain.
“You have done your job beautifully, darling. Now let me take it from here.”
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