#and plenty of neurotypical people ARE!

[transrevolutions]

disappointed but not surprised at the number of posts saying snow's moral depravity is because of his apparent low empathy and not because he. yknow. supports and upholds a fucking fascist regime.

#fascists are NOT some kind of 'special evil different person' #there is no fundamental biological difference between you and a fascist #and to try and separate yourself from them #by claiming fascism is a result of some predetermined condition #and not a complicated set of bias + experiences + indoctrination #is extremely dangerous #plenty of emotionally detached low empathy ppl are NOT fascists #and plenty of neurotypical people ARE! #and the moment you say #“oh I never could've been [type of bad person] because I'm not Like Them” #is the moment that you become vulnerable to indoctrination #coriolanus snow #tbosas #the ballad of songbirds and snakes #the hunger games #thg #pigeon.txt #neurodivergent

[utilitycaster]

I just want to say, that I agree with almost all of your Critical Role takes and you have 1000% better and more nuanced takes than all of Twitter and I greatly appreciate it! The takes over there regarding Liliana and the gods are just wild and you bring some much needed sanity to the content I see

Thanks! I hope you don't mind because I've been thinking about this re: the Twitter takes but the thing about Twitter and Liliana specifically that I've seen is that there's this really bizarre fetishization of like, the fact that she is a (white) southerner (this also weirdly happened for Birdie though to a much lesser extent, and the person who spearheaded that wasn't even American so I have to assume this is a specific corner of Twitter Culture At Large). And like, here's the thing. It's true that fantasy tends to be very British in its accents, and it's also true that accents in a fantasy world are used to convey the same things we'd assume in our world - RP British for educated, southern American for rural, Cockney for rougher types, etc.

It's also true that laying the exact socioeconomic parallels from our world onto, say, Liliana and Orym (who reads to me as non-regional but I, like Liam, am from the Northeast originally) is a recipe for disaster. Or rather, it's not, but it is going to reaffirm your own biases, some of which are dangerous to reaffirm.

There was a popular post on Tumblr a while back, probably not long after Trump was elected, of someone talking about how they were convincing a relative with the confederate flag towards socialism by appealing to the idea of "isn't in unfair how uneven wealth distribution is and how a small group has so much control" and a number of people were rightfully like "uh, maybe you should focus on the racism" or "hey OP ask your relative who they think that small group in control is because I'm getting a really bad feeling they're going to say it's The Jews." And I feel that a lot of the empathy for Liliana from those spaces feels like that OP. Or in other words: I get that you see your relatives in Liliana. Unfortunately, I cannot help but see me and mine in Orym.

You see someone trapped by circumstance and desperation in a dangerous ideology. I see the fact that I haven't gone to a synagogue in easily 6-7 years without there being a security guard present and usually, the doors locked with someone looking through the window to let you in, and then in the sanctuary there's been an installation so that you can quickly bar all the doors in case an alarm goes off or you hear shots in the lobby.

I think there's a great case for seeing yourself in Imogen, who is in a painful struggle with the fact that her mother does love her very much but is in dangerously deep and has done a number of incredibly terrible and harmful things. That latter point is important, incidentally; I get that cult members sometimes rise through the ranks but all but the leader are being manipulated. But the fact remains that a brainwashed person can still commit atrocities, and in this story, they have, many times over. It's especially true because like...sure, plenty of people are like "I lost my relative to a cult and I just want them back and I couldn't harm them," but also, as we've seen, this cult can and will harm Imogen! Plenty of people are also like "yeah I gotta cut them off, it hurts but unfortunately my horribly bigoted and violent relative, while a victim of brainwashing, is a threat to me too." It's not even the full picture of the Temult side of things, let alone the picture that includes the Vanguard's victims.

I also think the Southern gatekeeping is unhinged because it's like. guys there's QAnon members and other cults across the country; the Confederate flag example above was actually notable in that OP wasn't even Southern so you couldn't even write the flag off as deeply misguided heritage but rather was explicitly being used as a hate symbol. It's awfully presumptive to assume all southerners have the same experience (especially since the Temults are portrayed, physically and in accents, as white southerners, not that the experiences of white southerners aren't also incredibly varied). It's awfully presumptive to assume that people find Liliana threatening because they have no personal experience with people like her; often, it's because they have all too real experience with people like her, and it says something even worse about you if you can say "but you guys, I see me and my family in Liliana" when people are telling you that they see them and their families in Orym. I would not, personally, publicly admit that one's empathy extends to the people who remind you of your family but runs out before it reaches their victims. Nor would I publicly admit that I assume everyone who disagrees with me clearly has never had personal experience with this topic.

I should also note that, as I've noted a number of times before, that these are fictional characters and not real people. Twitter seems to be really fucking bad at grasping that. Like, yes, this is the other thing; I do not think that OP should kill their Confederate flag-toting relative, whereas if Imogen did so to Liliana I'd be like "hell yeah." The former is a real person who I do hope gets deprogrammed, just, you know, maybe adjust those priorities; the latter is a fictional character in a story.

#answered #anonymous #if steel had a southern accent do you think people would feel differently about her? sound off in the comments i guess. #cr spoilers #it really is like. with the people who can't separate characters from real people...there's this assumption #that everyone who doesn't agree with them lacks the same experiences or is bigoted #don't like liliana? well it's because you're not southern. don't like laudna? it's because you're neurotypical and straight and hate women. #notice how none of these carry within them any argument within the text? notice how they just rely on the assumption #that you can only understand things through direct personal experience and not like...thought and empathy? #that if you fit certain demographics you obviously Will hold these exact opinions bc clearly all nd people or wlw are a monolith? #it's like. yeah man i see why you have more sympathy for the vanguard than their victims...you think like a cultist even if you're not one #you say There's Those Who Understand And Have The Mandate of Heaven Because We're (southern or nd or queer or whatever) #and then there's Them The Ones Who Don't Get It And Never Will Bc They're Not Like Us (even though plenty of times...they are) #anyway. as always i am sorry that twitter sucking hurts the careers of countless creatives #but i think it does foster this sort of no-nuance no-argument Me First thinking so. can't be too sorry. #long post

[skinnypaleangryperson]

I can't imagine how quality my life would be if people were willing to listen to niche, incredibly strange cornered personalities. I'm such an interesting person, but people don't speak my language 98% of the time and nobody cares to unless you speak the mainstream, boring oversaturated languages that people speak with celebrity pop culture, influencers, and the so forth. The worthlessness that I feel from not being able to fit into mainstream society has made a black mark. Still, the niche incredibly strange personality persists.

I'm just a incredibly strange mentally ill, genuinely schizophrenic incredibly imaginative maladaptive daydreaming mentally ill person who cannot tell fantasy from reality, but I feel like it could have been so much more than that if society had spaces for more niche corners like us to speak.

#I'm so depressed that I promised myself I wouldn't post anymore #but looking at the four neurodivergent people that post in the tags I check even if they end up paying me #*hating me #is enough to get me going again at least for a little bit #I don't even bother with fandom anymore nor does it excite me because I've been rejected from BoJack culture in every way #but I'm still madly in love with him and have psychotic maladaptive disorders about him so it doesn't matter #so I just casually interact #assume that people are going to treat me like trash and move on #most Bojack fans are excessively neurotypical much like the characters and the people that made it #and neurotypicals absolutely despise me especially since I'm becoming increasingly more insane as I get older #just internet junk anyway so it barely matters #I learned plenty from the discord and of the cursed thing that you call a reddit group

[bmpmp3]

I NEEED to go back to making art that makes it ABUNDANTLY clear that theres something wrong with my brain BUT NOT in a cool or stylishly interesting way. i need to do it in a way that makes people say "hm." and walk away

#sowwy ive been kinda going through it in my fine arts major rn can u tell HJKSDHKFd #ive been feeling like. scared. and paralyzed by marketability and branding. #i cant stop thinking about how other people will see my art. but not like in a good way #when i was younger i thought about it in a good way. like hee hee hoo hoo the act of looking connected us hee hee #but rn i keep thinking about it in like this wretched like consumer product mindset? ouhhghhhhh el problema es el capitalismo #and like maybe this works for some people. to think like this. to make art like this. its what my professors push me towards #not intentionally. they dont say it out loud at least. im not sure if they know or not some of the irony #my professors are nice and pretty smart and talented and i like em. but sometimes i wonder like. the push for us as students to make like #marketable 'avant garde'? stuff thats safe but pretending to be weird and out there #i dont mean to sound pretentious. in general i play it too safe myself (spent too much time as an edgy 10 year old with my #parents freaking out over my shoulder because they think the fact that i drew an anime character frowning means something serious LOL) #but i dunno man. my least interesting art with the least amount of care thought or effort always gets so much more attention in school #nowhere else oddly. online? people like my more passionate but seemingly frivolous art (oc art etc. not frivolous to me but yknow how it is #same with irl artists and other industry people outside my school. whats going on in my school LOL #i know from experience i cant push myself into a supposedly marketable brand. if i try to make something sell it will not. #i dont know why. maybe theres an invisible essence buyers can tell when i didnt care jkfsldjdfrds #but my teachers LOOOOVE the stuff i put no passion in its so bizarre orz but i gotta relearn how to ignore half of their advice #i used to be better at it. but i also only used to ignore like a quarter of their advice. maybe i need to amp up how much im ignoring #that sounds mean. they have plenty of good advice. but also plenty of advice thats clouded by their own biases #and i gotta relearn how to sort out this stuff again. i forget every few months for some reason #you know i always think ouuhhhhh i act so neurotypical ouhhhhhhhhh im outgoing i talk to strangers all the time i seem confident #im so masked IM SO MASKED but then i go a couple weeks where every conversation i have has people looking at me like #i have two heads and neither of them are speaking their language. and then i descend into madness like this HJKLDSHJDS #i'll be fine i'll figure it out. i need to stop trying to get a good grade in being a 'cutting edge' conventional artist <3 #i need to just. draw my cartoon characters in peace 😔😔😔

[callixton]

ya tbh the more i experience life the more i don’t think the neurotypical/neurodivergent divide exists in a meaningful way as people now use those words. this is not me saying ‘everyone’s on the spectrum a little’ or that it’s not useful to be aware of how your brain works but. the human experience is so vast and varied and i don’t really think that ‘neurodivergent’ as a broad catch-all has any practical meaning

#i think very very few people are truly ‘neurotypical’ and by being such a minority does that really make them typical at all? #i do get the use of neurodivergent as a placeholder for. that’s some shit happening in my head but you’re not entitled to the details’ #i think that makes plenty of sense. but as a Category of people? i’m dubious #ted talks

[wetslug]

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#ALSO autism and adhd are such an interesting case study in how to describe and categorize mental disabilities #because neither have been linked with one specific gene mutation..or one specific risk factor... or any agreed upon organic difference #(though im aware asd has been correlated with less synaptic pruning and larger brains)... or any definitive or defining symptoms #i have such a tough time categorizing people into ''autistic/adhd'' and ''allistic/NT'' because its like. wheres the cut off point #plenty of people who live neurotypically have symptoms associated with adhd but might be under the diagnostic threshold #idk i just see it as a large continuum where u could fall anywhere on the scale and i want people to understand that its completely #arbitrary where doctors have decided the cut off point/standard deviation is that warrants a diagnosis #for this reason i always encourage people not to fixate on labels if they dont NEED one and just use whatever resources or language works

[kidrat]

autism literally is different depending on assigned sex at birth?

There is *potentially* difference in how autism *presents* itself (ie. looks) in people based on the different pressures on them growing up. Free yourself from your shackles

#also again. afab = not an adjective #male/female brain theory = disproven #autism diagnostic criteria = says nothing about your agab #also autism diagnostic criteria = dumb tbh but my point is you can’t even lean on neurotypical socitys’s little checklists for this opinion #'atypical' autism = present in plenty of people who aren't afab. including cis men #also anon if ur still reading. #there are also some differences across cultures in how autism presents #do you think those are based in some inherent physical quality too? pick wisely #asks

[ohwellokcomputer]

hello, I would just like to let people know that instead of harassing and threatening autistic users who enjoy/post Wizard Boy content, you can simply block them. the reason I am making this post is because I am on call with one of my dear friends who is inconsolable over violent threats from alleging she's a terf or supports terfs, simply because she likes a kid's book. autistic people can't control what their special interests are, and we're never intending to make anyone feel bad about them. please keep in mind next time you send a rude anon that that 30 year old with a hogwarts house in their bio that you perceive as "cringe" or even "bigoted" might be an autistic adult, and it is no help to trans people to harass autistic folks over their special interests. please keep this in mind. the block function is there for a reason.

#i've seen plenty of NT trans ppl be like 'well trans fans can like it bc they're reclaiming it but cis autistics are still cis so not ok' #like...dude #i hate to break it to you but neurotypical people do not get to dictate the things autistic people like/do/have as special interests #one of my brothers special interests for years was a piece of media i hated created by a terrible bigot and did i shame him for it? NO #i sucked it up and minded my own business and bought a pair of noise cancelling headphones

[nateconnolly]

TikTok has convinced so many people that you're autistic or ADHD if you have completely typical experiences like "getting songs stuck in your head" or "having a strong sense of social justice" or "reverently kissing the ice-cold crown of the crow lord". No, you do not need to have autism to squeeze your eyes shut and stand completely still as a living statue to demonstrate your total submission to the crow lord. Plenty of neurotypical people bring him tributes of glass beads, tinfoil strips, roadkill, coins from dead men's pockets, and mice or rabbits fattened weeks in advance. Honestly TikTok has become such a dangerous engine for spreading misinformation. I wouldn't be surprised if they provoke the wrath of the crow lord soon.

#original post

[licorishh]

"Everyone's a little ADHD"

you should throw your cup full of water directly on the electrical socket and you should stick a fork in it and you should go run over to that stranger and kiss them cause hey you've never done that before and you should shout a curse word at the top of your lungs just to see what that person over there would do if you did and you should grab that butter knife you just put in the drawer and as a test to see if it'd work as well as a steak knife you should poke yourself in the shoulder would that feel funny? maybe i don't know now run away from home even if you have a great relationship with your parents tie yourself to a tree and wait and see if someone will notice you're gone snap your phone in half purposefully try to hyperextend your knee you've done it before and it didn't hurt that bad so why would it hurt to do it again? everyone is watching you it's so loud it's so bright you want to strangle that person over there because they're chewing too loudly and that light is flickering and your head is splitting open and if someone looks at you again you're gonna start crying but you're in a class you can't run out of the room you're stuck you're stuck you're trapped wait what did the teacher say? you missed that when was the due date she didn't write it down now you don't know what you need the bell is ringing the class is over the teacher is busy with other students you're still sitting here you're wasting time the next class is starting soon wait was there homework? probably not you would've written it down if there were so you can leave now you home you're tired wait did you eat lunch? no you didn't have time you're starving you make yourself a sandwich hey you should throw your cup of water directly on the electrical socket and you should stick a fork in it and you should throw your sandwich on the floor so you have to remake it again or you could leave it there and let the dog eat it even though you know it would make him incredibly sick wait your mom is calling you you forgot to do the dishes ok stop making the sandwich do the dishes finish the dishes check your phone oh that artist posted! scroll through pinterest an hour goes by you forgot to eat the meat and cheese are still out and they're probably spoiled you put them back in the fridge and hope your parents won't notice and now it's time to go to bed and your head hits the pillow and you drift off to sleep and morning comes and it happens again and again and again.

But sure, "Everyone's a little ADHD."

#i'm actually not frustrated surprisingly just feeling compelled #adhd #text post #neurodiversity #i'm aware writing a wall of text regarding adhd is a bit of an oxymoron but i'm making a point #intrusive thoughts are the part of adhd everybody's too afraid to talk about #even if you're happy and well-adjusted and not struggling with depression or anxiety or something else #you just become numb to these kinds of thoughts #and i barely touched on it here. it gets plenty worse #sometimes it's silly things that make you roll your eyes like “throw the pillow at the wall” #other times it's “hurt someone you care about just to see if it's as bad as it looks in the movies” #it's scary but you gradually get to the point where you don't even flinch when it happens. it becomes a part of your daily routine. #you've just accepted that sometimes you feel like a psychopath even though you're not #before any neurotypicals ask me yes i'm perfectly fine lol #i'm at a point in my life where i'm joyful and happy and thankful and i feel wonderful and i'm grateful to be able to say that #this is just how it is to live with this kind of thing. it's an inevitability that i must accept or else i'm lying to myself #if this is something you live with too then believe me i understand. it's a bigger deal than some people make it out to be. #i hope i hope i hope that everyone like me who lives like this is able to make peace with it someday like i have #you are not creepy. you are not a sociopath. you are not dangerous. you just have a different brain just like me #normally i don't talk about stuff like this but i know this kind of thing can make people feel awfully alone because no one talks about it #and i don't want anyone to feel that way. it's a miserable feeling and no one should have to experience it. #if you're unclear as to the point i was making here #there's a pretty common theme of neurotypicals brushing it off and saying things like “everybody has a little adhd” #and essentially implying that what makes adhd adhd is just how human beings operate inherently (it isn't) #i'm tired of seeing people say that kind of thing #because it is a monumental weight and a struggle for millions of people around the world #and making fun of it or diminishing its significance is incredibly cruel #and it really isn't funny. it's really not. you may think it's amusing to make fun of people with things like adhd or autism #but you will never understand the weight these people carry. they are human beings and treating them as anything but is despicable. #do not treat them like children. do not treat them as sub-human just because you feel inconvenienced or annoyed by them.

[always-a-slut-4-ghouls]

The older I get the more times I realize that “that’s normal though” we’re not, in fact, normal

#emma posts #that’s not a thing for neurotypical people #that’s actually an allergic reaction #that’s not how straight allo people work #over and over again this happens #every time the OH changes my life and the normal’ in whatever way. people don’t understand #they don’t understand the ‘realizing that thing you deal with is not a thing for many people and it was different for you’ #the weird conflicting emotions that all hit at once #but now I can’t stop learning about the conditions i have and realizing that certain things are part of them but no one said that #not actually specifically. they didn’t point that one thing out #and then when I tell my doctor they are just like ‘oh yeah. we’ve been covering that’ #but he doesn’t fully understand how knowing what and why and how a thing is changes how you can live with it #to know that how normal people deal with it or live like that or whatever isn’t the best way for you #and now you know WHY #it’s a specific thing #there are plenty of ‘that’s normal’ <-is normal. things but that’s just… normal? #nothing about your life really changes all that much #but the understanding of a way that you and people like you are different at a certain thing is life changing #because now it makes sense and there are also people like you in that way #something you didn’t realize before #because you didn’t know

[caitofcaithall]

Note to self: darling, sweetheart, baby boy... when you are met with people who are just aggressively neurotypical and refuse to use basic reading comprehension skills in order to understand what you are saying...

Just quit trying. Move your attention somewhere else. They don't deserve you.

#autistic problems #i mean obvs not all neurotypicals #but i'm taking this course and having major buyers regret because i'm not learning anything new and every time #i try to start a discussion about clarifying this or hey guys how do you experience that #people are reacting like i'm crazy and it's really starting to piss me off #i've never been able to identify so many differences in thinking styles in my life #and that's saying something #i mean... surely they can't all just be that *stupid* can they? #because i know plenty of people who don't have the same thought process or worldview who would be able to comprehend what i'm saying #or asking - i mean #if you're talking about berries and i'm asking you if you mean blackberries or blueberries i feel like most people are able to say #'yeah these are blackberries #aren't they great?'

[skeleton-monarch]

oh my god some of y’all really do think all your autistic symptoms are universal autistic experiences. half the posts i see on here are “i don’t actually struggle, others just don’t understand me. obviously autistic people are just misunderstood” and i’m sitting here like. no. i struggle with that. i’m not being misunderstood. i genuinely cannot grasp that concept, it’s not the other way around.

#‘autistic people understand sarcasm! it’s just neurotypicals who don’t understand when *we’re* sarcastic so when we respond to sarcasm with #sarcasm in kind they-‘ *gunshot* anyways. #shut Up shut Up #i don’t get sarcasm. i don’t understand body language. i can’t communicate some things no matter how many dofferent ways i or anyone else #tries. it’s often that i end up crying on the floor with my mother guessing how to help me cause *neither* of us know what i need #i’m not just quirky or misunderstood i am genuinely struggling!!!! #maybe *your* autism would have virtually no impact on you if there was a societal change but mine sure as fuck would!!!! #i’m tired of it! #fuck off fuck off my autism and adhd interfere with my daily life and always will you guys do not speak for everyone #and neither do i! because i know and follow plenty of people whose autism affects them more than mine does!

[surprisearson]

Something that bothers me greatly with the analysis I've seen of Laios and Toshiro's argument is people will try to say it's a great example of when neurodivergent people come up against the unspoken standards of neurotypical people. First of all, there are plenty of textual moments with Toshiro that do read as neurodivergent to me and it cheapens his character to put him in that role so he seems more antagonistic. But more importantly it just fundamentally seems to miss the fact that neurodivergent people don't just fail to understand neurotypical people, but each other, all of the time. We often have competing needs and opposing difficulties with social situations. Neurodivergent people don't inherently understand each other, even if it can be easier. It's very common for the situation between Laios and Toshiro to happen. It's frustrating to not be told what you should be doing in a social situation and invest yourself in a friendship that isn't mutual. But it's equally neurodivergent to struggle to communicate discomfort and set up boundaries. I know I've personally been in plenty of situations where anxiety and fear of rejection have made me stay silent even if the person I'm speaking to would have appreciated being told what's wrong. Toshiro and Laios aren't clashing because one is neurotypical, but because they have clashing values and needs.

#dungeon meshi #laios touden #toshiro nakamoto #shuro dungeon meshi

[draculian-accomplishments]

Reminder for people with Personality Disorders:

You can be in therapy for years to be able to cope.

You can mask the difficulties you have.

You can cope well with your disorders.

You can function in daily life.

But the day you have a bad day, the day you're so overwhelmed that the mask slips and you simply say one thing, the neurotypicals will use it against you and use it to abuse you.

Abuse is a choice. Abusers make the choice to abuse someone. Not every abuser has a personality disorder. There are plenty of abusers that are Neurotypical. Plenty of neurotypicals will abuse those with PDs due to the stigma and misinformation around them.

Quit using terms like "Narcissistic/Histrionic/Borderline/Anti-Social Abuse"

Quit using "Narcissist" and "Anti-Social" as insults.

Quit justifying abuse towards people with PDs.

Quit armchair diagnosing abusers and assholes with Personality Disorders when you don't know the lived experience of people with them.

Stop fucking appealing to Neurotypicals.

#npd #actually narcissistic #actually npd #narcissism #narcissistic personality disorder #pwnpd #narc abuse #narcissistic abuse #actually bpd #bpd #borderline personality disorder #actually cluster b #cluster b disorders #actually hpd #hpd #actually aspd #aspd #aspd safe #hpd safe #npd safw #bpd safe

[empyrangel]

This is random but I absolutely hate how people assume that having something as a special interest (or hyperfixation) means that you have extensive in-depth knowledge about it. Especially since it’s mostly neurotypical people guilty of this (though I’ve seen plenty of nd do it as well.) We’ve been told an annoying amount of times that “you don’t actually have a special interest in x, you hardly know anything about it” by people who have a lot of background in the subject. Like no where in any description of a special interest does it say it makes you an expert in the subject. Some people only fixate on the idea or aesthetic of their special interest. Some only on a surface level knowledge of it. Some people just simply aren’t compelled to dig deeper. I’ve never had the urge to look much into learning more about most of my spins, and when I’ve forced myself to I end up bored and don’t pay attention to whatever I’m researching.

I just need people to understand that having a spin doesn’t require substantial knowledge in the area to be valid. We just want to casually talk about what we already know and maybe learn little tidbits from others without being told “educate yourself” or that we’re invalid.

#constellation of words ✨ #neurodivergent #neurodiversity #actually neurodiverse #neurodiverse #adhd #actually adhd #autism #autistic #actually autistic #hyperfixation #special interest