#and taking an issue and fandomizing it

[dykefaggotry]

I'm ngl I get raising awareness but seeing ppl draw like. cutesy fanart of their faves waving palestinian flags feels so dystopian & a little disrespectful/tone deaf. or posting about how "fave character from x show would support palestine" like. there's no problem imo w still participating in fandom while bad things happen in the world but it just gets very odd and tone deaf when we start crossing them over. like there's people dying, I really don't know that it's appropriate to bring up how glup shitto would oppose that. maybe you as your own person can do that on your own perhaps? without making it about fandom? like idk! it's just odd behavior To Me.

#like you don't need to make it about fandom...... it's just :/ #like it's different when you had smth like captain america during ww2 created by a jewish man #precisely for the purpose of representing what was going on #and taking an issue and fandomizing it #like if a palestinian made a palestinian superhero and drew comics of them fighting the idf like #that's one thing #or all the incredible art that's come out to raise awareness in general #BUT WHY DO YOU NEED IDK STEVE FROM STRANGER THINGS TO WAVE A PALESTINIAN FLAG.... ITS JUST NOT..... #it feels so insensitive to me #ofc if actual palestinians come in and tell me I'm wrong here and they love those posts #I'll glady be wrong #but it just feels so disrespectful

[ghostlyarchaeologist]

Christian Kane twirling props: a series. Part 1/?

Leverage Season 1

#christian kane #leverage #eliot spencer #christian kane twirling props: a series #this was a challenge issued by a mutual #i don't think she actually expected me to take it!🤣 #but i am doing the fandom a public service here so of course i would! #might take me a while though #it does mean a hell of a lot of rewatching! #ghostly'sgifs

[wild-magic-oops]

Gale: *simply explains something that he has way more experience and knowledge about than the player character*

Some players who seem to have self-worth and insecurities issues and take offense at the very idea that someone else might be more knowledgeable or experienced in a subject than them: He talks so much and he's so condescending!

#gale dekarios #gale of waterdeep #gale #bg3 #my posts #at least realize why you're reacting like that and stop putting your hate takes in the character tag #like 30% of the gale hate I've seen is literally just that #people feeling inferior to him and reacting with anger #and making him to be condescending when he's literally not except for 1 single occasion which is conditional #and even then it's because he himself is reacting due to his own self-worth issues #but good job on missing the point #i love gale/sorcerer but the fandom's popular take on it is just ughhhhh

[fromtheseventhhell]

It's "the Stark sisters have complementary skillsets" until someone points out that Arya is good at math and Sansa isn't. Then suddenly Arya is an unreliable narrator, Sansa is just being humble, and she'll magically have that skill if/when it becomes relevant

#the absolute refusal of this fandom to believe that Arya is better at an /intellectual/ subject than Sansa is ridiculous #and the funniest part is that Sansa explicitly states she isn't good at math herself but people still pretend not to see it #they want to force the brain and brawn shit on them sooooo badly and it's just never gonna work because Arya is incredibly intelligent #and that's constantly reinforced...her being good at math just introduces how analytical she is which is a HUGE part of her character #the irony of the /don't pit the sisters against each other/ stans doing the most to compare and divide their stories + characters #if they didn't base their takes on fanon it wouldn't be an issue though 🤷🏾‍♀️ #so funny to bring up the fact that Arya is canonically good at math cause it goes against basically every fandom idea about her #that along with her overall intelligence cause they can't handle her being more then someone's bodyguard

[batcavescolony]

Nico Di Angelo was born around 1932. the beginning of WW2 was 1939, this is probably about when he came to the USA. Do you know what else happened in 1939? Detective Comics #27, now you're probably wondering 'batcaves why does this random comic matter?' It's matters because that comic is the introduction of Detective Comics newest story, following the adventures of 'The Bat-Man'. It is fully possible for 7 year old Nico DiAngelo to have read the first few issues of Batman comics, do with this what you will.

#also the comics he could have read were BEFORE Robin. Robin doesn't come in for another 11 issues in 1940 so Nico wouldn't know Robin was #batmans sidekick. plus thise first few comics are different then alot of mondern batman so imagine him going to a batman movie and being #like 'wtf is this?' who is Alfred? (because he didnt exist either) why isnt Batman car red? (it was red in th first comics) #comics #dc comics #batman #bruce wayne #detective comics #nico di angelo #percy jackon and the olympians #heroes of olympus #will solace #trials of apollo #pjo #pjo fandom #idk if my dates are correct so correct me if im wrong #my fixations have crossed over #and he could read comics cus he said 'with great power comes... great need to take a nap' which is an altered spiderman quote #will is a starwars nerd. nico is a greek mythology and comic nerd send tweet #percy jackson headcanon #head canon #rick riordan #if you want me to tell you whats in those first comics i will #i can also tell you what else was in those first comics because it wasnt just batman it was abunch of other detective stories #first issue came out in May 1939. WW2 started in September 1939 so 5 issues then once a month till Hades takes them to lotus casino #when ever that is. if you wanna know exactly the dates. #also nico and bianca could have watched the Wizard of Oz with Judy Garland in theaters it came out on August 25 1939

[lord-squiggletits]

The reason this fandom hates IDW Optimus isn't because he's a cop (plenty of people are fine with Prowl) or because he's a bastard (most characters in IDW are) but because he commits the crime of being an actual person who's messy, flawed, and makes a shitload of high stakes mistakes fitting for the intense situations and pressure he's put under constantly.

But we can't have Optimus actually react to his situations by lashing out or being unpleasant, no, he has to have the personality of a cardboard cutout of G1 whose only defining personality traits are "dad, funny, nice," and if he ever vents negative emotions it can only ever be #relatable depression or him being sad on his own without ever letting it show during the important parts of the story. If Optimus dares do things like be angry or frustrated or bitter it's just a sign that he's a bastard and LITERALLY the worst Optimus ever. If Optimus ever makes mistakes or does wrong things in the heat of anger/frustration/stress it's because he's just an evil bastard with no redeeming traits.

God forbid Optimus go through an unending gauntlet of war, politics, atrocities, near-complete loneliness, and a seemingly endless cycle of violence for his entire life and come out of it kind of bitter, angry, and tired of dealing with people's shit. He's not allowed to be a realistic person, context doesn't matter, sympathy doesnt matter. IDW Optimus doesn't fulfill the fandom's fantasies of Father Figure or Perfect Cultural Icon or Twinky Fucktoy and since that's the only reason most people care about Optimus in general, the fandom collectively trashes on IDW OP.

All because he can't fit into the overly simplified and childlike double standard the fandom has where if any other character is messy and flawed, that's good writing and interesting and compelling, but if OPTIMUS is messy and flawed, he's Literally The Worst and he's an asshole for no other reason than He Sucks, context be damned

#squiggposting #ive been here too long and seen the same shit too many times #i'm tired of going 'maybe it's just a difference in taste' nope #the issue is literally just double standards and people not reading the text or taking things out of context #and the worst part is if this were just something OP haters did i would get it #after all if you just dont like OP then of course you arent gonna find anything interesting or compelling #but i see this shit from literally other MOP fans who supposedly love M and OP #but their OP takes are shit and i can count the no. of people who write IDW OP on one hand #i kind of thought that at least among other OP fans there would be deeper readings but if anything it's worse #fandom OP content is 50% haha funny dad jokes g1 knockoff OP and 50% yaoi uke twink sad baby OP #so unimaginative. so fucking boring. so immature #to style yourselves some sort of mature TF fans and then viciously reject the One OP who #dared to be written a little darker and more flawed than any others #it's literally just people refusing to give a chance to any nuanced take on OP #they just want him to be There and Nice and for his biggest flaw to be Being Annoying About Equality or something #might delete later might not

[unforth]

Hey if you're a white person (as I am too!) and reading the stuff about End OTW Racism (@end-otw-racism) is making you uncomfortable CONGRATULATIONS THATS THE POINT bipoc have been uncomfortable in fandom for decades and some of yall can't face being uncomfortable for five seconds and still have the gall to have shit like BLM in your descriptions.

Put your money where your mouth is. Be uncomfortable. Actually read what they're talking about and what changes they're proposing instead of jumping right to BuT wHaT aBoUt My DaRk FiC (they want to protect your dark fic and help ensure you're safer from harassment over it!)and ThEy'Re PrO-cEnSoRsHiP (they are explicitly not).

I'm so fucking tired of having my posts and those I reblog on this topic largely ignored on my personal account, but ESPECIALLY I'm furious about how ignored posts on racism in fandom are when I put them on the danmei art sideblogs.

I see racism every single fucking DAY as part of running those accounts. This isn't some nebulous thing happening elsewhere, this is us!

If you don't care, I really need you to take a long hard look in the mirror and ask yourself WHY DONT I CARE?

Because YOU SHOULD FUCKING CARE.

#unforth rambles #end racism in the otw #end otw racism #i was already at my breaking point on this issue a month ago when i started talking more about microaggressions in the mdzs tag #now seeing how impossible it is to get people to give a shit ive moved to fucking FURIOUS #WHY ARENT MORE PEOPLE ANGRY I DONT UNDERSTAND #(i do understand #its racism taking rhe form of complacency and disinterest #from people who have the privilege to ignore it because it makes them uncomfortable and doesnt harm them directly #im honestly gettibg so disgusted #do better white fandom) #im a jewish white woman with biracial kids #it horrifies me to realize that im genuinely not sure if the circles im in would be safe for my half black kids to join #im genuinely not sure i can let my kids join fandom when they get old enough #for fear of what they'll be exposed to here #do yall even realize what a fucking indictment that is? #note this is mostly not aimed at my mutuals #yall are awesome and ilu #but i only have about 75 mutuals #what about the rest of my 1900 followers like wtf guys

[adelinamoteru]

purely fanon jason vent below so feel free to ignore

every other fic in the jason todd tag whether its romantic or platonic or whatever just has to include something about the no kill rule or him giving up killing like is it not enough ! have we not hashed out this argument enough already ! can I not read some jason content without having to be randomly bombarded by the morality police and how “oh jasons not killed anyone for x amount of months thats great! we knew u could do it jay”

and I wish I was just joking like I really do but I have scoured the tag almost from top to bottom and it always, without a doubt, has to come up at some point. its his fucking defining character trait apparently. mind u he’s not even the only dc character that kills but yall just won’t let it go! I do not need jason giving up his stance on killing to be written out for me to be able enjoy content about him

and whether its included so that his relationships with other characters can be viewed as ‘realistic’ is just so. what does it matter. its already fan-fiction who the hell cares about justifying the universe that you’re choosing to write him in

#jason todd #dc #red hood #dcu #pls do not interact if u have issues with jasons stance on vigilantism or whatever bc this is rlly not my point #idc whether u hate him for it or not to each their own #I just wish it wasn’t treated as some sort of stain on his character that needs to be addressed in every fic he appears in or else he — #cant be liked or something #like thats a topic that has to be addressed for my love of jason todd and his character and the love other charas have for him to be valid #its giving ‘jason u cannot be loved the way that u are’ #and this reiterates the point I made in a previous post about how ppl genuinely dont know how to perceive this conflict and its resolution #the other way around #and how bc of that its always jason who has to be portrayed as making amends or taking a knee #there are so many interesting facets to jason todd so why does it always have to circle back to this one thing #why is it that hes one of the only charas ive seen where a certain plot point can never be looked past when enjoying him in fandom

[sunnyside-sunset]

i am a sunny defender until the day i die; that is my shining star, my little baby girl who deserves the world. but dear god. some of the people “defending” sunny by only dragging leo to hell and back without making any attempt to understand leos character are going to be the death of me……

qsmp fandom i love you all but a select few of you get on my nerves sometimes </3 but hey at least on here it isnt as bad as twitter

#qsmp #qsmp sunny #qsmp leo #qsmp leonarda #leonarda my baby i may love sunny more but you deserve so much more than youre getting #qsmp fandom try not to forget about leo or misunderstand her character challenge #i love you qsmp fandom i really do #but sometimes peoples takes on the girl characters can be so……. #btw this is not an excuse for people to turn this into ‘yeah leo is so much better than sunny’ #‘people need to stop babying sunny and realise that someone needs to put her in her place’ or whatever #let my girls have complex emotions and make bad decisions #theyre kids!!!! just let the girls be girls!!! trust the admins and ccs to know what theyre doing!!!! #cough cough sidenote maybe also give tallulah some slack cough cough #cough shes also going through a lot and isnt constantly out to get sunny cough #cough and shes more than just a character thats angsty and gas daddy issues all the time cough cough #woah who said that thats crazy #that was an insane coughing fit i just had sorry guys

[autism-alley]

something i feel responders to pjo criticisms are not getting is book accuracy is important.

rick riordan created this project to be a book accurate adaptation on the screen. it doesn’t matter if annabeth is white and blonde, those people who are mad about that are wrong and their “criticisms” should be just thrown out. no, i’m talking real criticism. because being upset a series whose reason for existing is to be a faithful adaptation isn’t? not stupid. if you can enjoy the series—in my opinion not all the changes are objectively bad, but many, from a storytelling angle? from pure craftsmanship? are objectively bad—regardless, i’m happy for you. truly, if you feel the joy and magic the original series gave me while watching this show, i am overjoyed someone feels the magic. that’s more magical to me, worth more, than the show itself. but if you then insult me for not enjoying the show? tell me i must not love the story as much as you? tell me i am simply looking to hate the newest next thing, and not that i adore this series so much it pains me to see it so? that i don’t wish to see it succeed regardless of the betrayal i feel?

silly me, i thought our shared love of something meant we could all express it, even in different ways. but i guess not. i guess many of the series’ fans are just keen to discuss the show with the same bad faith it was made in.

#once again. does not apply to all enjoyers of the show or those defending it. #literally one of my points is i’m infuriated by these generalizations of character #do not put words in my mouth #the best part of this show to me is the fandom interaction but that doesn’t mean i don’t also take issue with certain fans #even people in my personal life who have asked me for a full debrief of my thoughts and then been. annoyed?? #when that includes what i didn’t like? #acting as if i have this responsibility to not share my true thoughts because it ruins the mood? kills your excitement? when you ASKED ME?? #that’s my own personal gripe but i feel like a similar thing is happening across the fandom space #don’t tell me i can talk about the show but only if i have nice things to say #percy jackson and the olympians #pjo show crit #pjo show #percy jackson show #pjo #percy jackson tv show #ris raves

[thethiefandtheairbender]

media literacy (or a lack thereof) has become a buzzword, but what it generally means is "am i taking every part of this text, even the ones i don't personally like and/or am not totally sold on, and willing to engage with it in good faith?" if you have to ignore a plethora of canon scenes with clear, surface level indications of what the takeaway is supposed to be to bend over backwards to validate your take(s), you're probably not engaging in good media literacy. this is not to say that more critical reads of "this thing didn't work for me" or "we should think critically of who made this piece" is moot, those things are worth interrogating. but often at the expense of, and to the extent of, "this canon [insert thing here] was really poorly crafted (because it doesn't align with my particular singular worldview) and therefore no one on the project's alternative viewpoints are worthwhile at all" that so many people seem to take it as.

if you're going to go radically against the text, you have to first have a good understanding of what the text actually is (often times in good faith), and so many people completely and/or wilfully miss that step, tbh

#media literacy #antizutara #also like 2-3 ppl in the tdp fandom #atla fandom problems #if ur main issue with katara is the boy she did or didn't end up with like. im begging u to take a step back #sincerely a very tired nb english major

[astrobei]

every byler creator who has ever felt unappreciated or has never seen their work on a rec list or has stayed awake for hours working on something for it to get no interaction or has had their work passed up in favor of the big fandom favorites or has never been taken a chance on or has ever come last in a poll they didn’t ask to be on or has felt self conscious about posting or about calling themselves a creator if what they’re posting is not a magnum opus or has created something for themselves and still hoped deep down that people would love it: get behind me. i’ll protect u

#i’m five foot three and terrified of confrontation but i’ll go down swinging #andi would like me to add that she and i are standing on top of each other in a trench coat fighting for u all #thea is also wearing a trench coat but it’s just her and tutter in there #u all better fear thea’s fully developed frontal lobe and streamlined leadership experience (her words) #but seriously guys like #maybe i’m taking fandom too seriously or whatever but i know how scary it can be to put urself out there #especially in fandom spaces where the whole point is u want to enjoy urself and be accepted and not be judged #i’d be lying if i said that luck and timing wasn’t a huge part of why ppl enjoy my fics #and i’m flattered that my name shows up in rec lists a lot but. there are so so so many talented writers that go unnoticed when ppl fixate #on the same 5-6 names #and i know bc i’ve been them for other fandoms! #especially in this community there is such a big issue with putting big creators up on a pedestal #expecting them to be perfect and to keep churning out high quality stuff for free on demand #twt is something else too . like i’m not even talking abt that rn #and people always saying stuff like #‘atp i refuse to read fics unless they’re by _ or _ or _’ #just know that even if u are not one of these names u are so so valued and appreciated #get behind me fr #ok Bye <3333333 #🫂 #byler #/astro posts

[fromtheseventhhell]

"It's normal for siblings to fight" Okay well it's not normal to be extremely classist and look down on your sister for being non-conforming. Or to go to the woman who ordered the death of your pet to tell her about your father's plans, when he specifically warned you against doing so, because you want to marry the boy you saw attack your sister and her friend (contributing partially to said father's death and your sister being unable to escape on the ship he chartered). Or to think of your sibling as unsatisfactory in comparison to another when you believe her to be dead. I notice that none of the "Sansa and Arya are going to reunite and instantly have no issues" crowd ever acknowledge any of this, which makes it seem like they don't actually believe what they say about their relationship being normal and easily reconciled. People wanting them to have no issues simply because they're siblings is another example of how fandom likes to flatten complex characters and relationships. They get reduced to being bickering siblings when their conflict runs deeper than that. If the author is telling you that they have "deep issues" to work out [X], I don't understand being so adamant about ignoring said issues. I also get the sense it's about ignoring the capacity for a certain character to be flawed, but that isn't going to change the fact that her "slip of the tongue" is very likely to be revealed and a source of further conflict 🤷🏾‍♀️

#arya stark #sansa stark #house stark #asoiaf #also if it's so normal for siblings to fight then why are you guys losing your minds over us theorizing they won't get along?? #the amount of condescending /that's just how siblings act/ takes I see 🙄 #sorry I guess? that we read the book and don't just delete parts of the story because we find it convenient? #it's not even like takes about them being enemies is widespread the most I see is that they aren't instantly bffs when they reunite 😭 #some people theorize they'll never be close but guess what? that's a completely fair and valid assumption based on their relationship! #personally I think they'll have a sweet reunion before the issues they have inevitably surface again because while they've been through #a lot they haven't fundamentally changed as people or the values they hold #and I think that's going to be very interesting to read about! #I can't figure out why people always take the most boring bland route for how things will play out #mostly because people seem to be unable to swallow the concept that Sansa is a flawed character who isn't perfectly sweet all the time #and the fact that their conflict is instigated by Sansa's classism #which is funny cause in the grand scheme of things her being mean to Arya is such a mild thing that opens the door to a ton of growth #never seen anybody but stansas equating her being a bully to her sister to her being evil/a villain #all we do is point out that it exists in the story...people in this fandom have no concept of nuance I stg 😭 #anyways they're both complex characters and their conflict is interesting and I hope we get to see how it plays out #cause it's definitely going to be better then that trash d&d came up with 🙏🏾

[qprstobin]

I am BEGGING this fandom to realize that ST is just not as deep as some of y'all make it out to be. Like the Duffers just aren't that good at writing or directing.

Also! Half this show is nostalgia bait! Which is actually a really important part of this conversation because I've seen people use scenes that were literally just movie throw back scenes to talk shit about characters when the scenes were literally just there to be Easter eggs. The Duffers barely even put any emotional direction into their scripts, it almost always ends up on the shoulders of the actors (which frankly explains some inconsistency with the party's characterization when you aren't giving enough direction to the literally child actors, some of which didn't start acting professionally until st). A lot of the metaphors they put into the show are also not that subtle. Which to be fair to the Duffers on this point, they don't NEED to be! The problem is that a lot of this fandom just glances over the obvious canonical metaphors and wholesale makes up new meanings to things. Like it's at a level that is extremely concerning!

Analysing works on a deep level is great, and there's plenty of media out there that does have 50 million meanings that you have to read or watch over and over again to catch every single line, joke reference, etc. but stranger things just ain't one of them.

#like this fandom also has a lot of issues with trying to validate their ships by proving they will be canon #which is another issue thats baffling #like yeah i get angry at stupid shit in fandom i have anger issues but like #how serious some of yall take some of this stuff and yall are my age too?? #im very concerned #fandom wank #walkie chatter

[brookiidookiii]

Brick is so mischaracterized it’s obnoxious. Anytime I see a headcanon where he’s forced against his will to go to military school it’s soooo,,. How can you say that. This man LOVES the army. He is obsessed with the military like a little boy is obsessed with joining the military. This man has a tank nightlight, he loves military shit. It is his proudest accomplishment. The first thing he does when he gets on the island is brag about his medals, and all he talks about in his biography is the military. His best memory from childhood is going to boot camp for fucks sake. He can like fashion AND the military lmao. Why chose one

#td brick #if brick was smart he wouldn’t waste his money on fashion school and would take online courses for much cheaper instead #but whatever live out your best life king #he’d bedazzle his uniform for war #anytime I see that fake backstory where brick was forced by his dad to join the military so he could man up or whatever I just UGHHH #plus it’s canon that his issues came from being teased a lot as a child #idk too many of the revenge boys are given sad backstories like bro enough #I can elaborate more on bricks mischaracterization #he’s too woobified by fandom. he’s also a bit of an asshole lmao

[king-wilhelm]

Let’s stop acting like Percy is stupid 2024!

#there’s no specific reason for this I’m just putting it out there #because this fandom LOVES to make him out to be some bumbling idiot #I also take issue with the *I doubt he could find his way out of a plastic bag without you* thing #feels demeaning tbh and unnecessary #percy jackson #percy jackson and the olympians #percy jackon and the olympians #pjo series #pjo tv show #pjo disney+ #walker scobell