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#aspec discourse
rhad-barks · 4 months
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how on earth are we still having aspec and mspec and neopronoun discourse it's almost 2024 do you guys understand that we need to embrace all sides of the queer community or the infighting will get us all killed. do you get that. lawmakers want all of us dead whether we're queers with palatable easy to understand identities or cishet alloaro men or he/him lesbians or genderfluid fagdykes with emojiself pronouns. in a world that's trying to erase us all we have is each other Do You Understand That. please be kind to people with identities you might not understand or agree with because they deserve to live freely as much as you do.
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silvermoon424 · 2 years
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I seriously hate the “aro/ace people aren’t oppressed enough to be part of the LGBTQ+ community” argument so much. We may not get denied healthcare but most cishet people absolutely think there’s something “wrong” with us that needs to be “fixed.” I’ve lost count of the amount of times aro/ace people have been called “mentally ill” or even “not fully human” because we either don’t experience romantic/sexual attraction or we experience it differently than allo people do.
People really don’t understand just how prevalent amatonormativity is in virtually every culture. And let it be known that the same structures and beliefs that demonize aro/ace people for not confirming to society’s expectations of what a monogamous, “normal” relationship “should” be and what people should aspire towards also demonize other queer people for not fitting in, too.
Also, I don’t get the “you must be THIS oppressed to join the club” mentality. While it’s absolutely true (and we should never forget that) the queer community was and still is founded out of a need for mutual care and protection against a society that hates and misunderstands us, we’re also still fighting to end that oppression. And if that oppression lessens or even ends, it shouldn’t erase our identities. I think of it like this: if misogyny were to suddenly disappear, that wouldn’t make me any less of a woman because my experiences and identity as a woman are not solely defined by sexism. Likewise, if queerphobia were to vanish, LGBTQ+ people would still have strong identities because there are so many things about being queer that are not and should not be defined by oppression.
Idk, exclusionist thought (especially within the queer community) just bothers me so much.
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aroxbetchio · 2 years
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yknow some ppl really need to stop pretending that they’re better than others because they can acknowledge nonsexual qualities abt someone. sexual attraction isn’t a bad thing. it doesn’t make you a bad person. like cmon dude.
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Hey apparently exclusionists still exist in 2024, so please remember to make liberal use of the block button because honestly fuck those people
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leonsi · 1 year
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every time i think about the aphobia and blatant erasure of aspec culture that’s been so rampant in online spaces i get SO sad. now aspec people don’t even know their own history!! aspec people are calling queerplatonic relationships “just friends”!! people are confusing asexuality with celibacy and aromanticism with asexuality!! aspec people think aspec identities are a 2000s fad!! this is so sad!!!!!
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i don't wanna hear anything about how ace/aro people aren't oppressed when my asexuality is the only thing that my very progressive, very supportive family will regularly and unthinkingly invalidate me over. when it's the only one of my numerous queer identities that I don't talk about openly and frequently.
I've been every letter of the LGBTQs over the years, I've identified as lesbian gay bi pan queer trans nonbinary genderqueer genderfluid polyamorous and I've never gotten anywhere near as much shit for any of these than I have for being asexual, demiromantic, demigrayace.
My family found out I had sex involving a penis and enjoyed it, and immediately they told me that I can't really call myself asexual then??? (Never mind that they know that I've had sex before, not involving a penis, and enjoyed it, and still identified as asexual since...)
This is just to show that there is still a massive lack of understanding and acceptance for aspec identities in cishet/non-queer folks - and, given the fact that ace discourse is STILL A THING, the same is true for much of the queer community.
Please can you do better. Please can you stop excluding aces and aros from your activism. Please can you acknowledge that it's HARDER to be openly ace/aro for many of us than it is to be LITERALLY ANY OTHER QUEER IDENTITY.
Any and all asexual and aromantic people need to be included in all of our activism. That goes for "cishet" aces and aros, it goes for sex favorable aces and romance favorable aros, it goes for aces and aros who have sex and/or relationships. It goes for aro aces and sex repulsed aces and loveless aros and literally anyone and everyone in between.
INCLUDE ASPEC PEOPLE IN YOUR QUEER ACTIVISM.
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degengxrl · 3 months
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some of the worsts of ace discourse from someone who wasnt on tumblr when it was going on
allosexual is a slur (sounds familiar)
asexual offender
all asexuals are ‘mentally ill’ (umm yeah i wonder where they came up with that :/ fuck the DSM)
trans aroaces are “cishets”
asexie (a literal constructed slur :/)
calling aspecs plants amoeba robots aliens (not a new thing in the ace discourse era)
being told we arent oppressed (while being actively oppressed)
we were ‘privileged’ for being ace
ppl happily iding as “aphobic”
ugh
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Does anyone else in the aspec community experience this? When I first start talking to a person in terms of possible dating, I can imagine a romantic/sexual relationship with them at some point, and I'm convinced that's what I want, but once I get to know them relatively well and figure out that I like them as a person, those potential sexual/romantic feelings just DISAPPEAR. Like, I respect them A LOT, and I can no longer see them that way.
The idea and potential of a romantic/sexual relationship is appealing, but I don't actually want it with an actual person in real life.
It's in those moments I realize I'm both aro and ace. Like, I would love to spend time with them all the time and talk to them, but not in a lovely- dovey, amatomormative way.
I hope I'm making sense.
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frogsforthefrogwar · 2 years
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Sometimes I feel isolated from the ace community for being sex favorable. Not all aces are sex repulsed, and aces who have sex are completely valid 
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Sometimes I think about how, if I had been born roughly 100 - 200 years earlier, I would still have been just as aroace, but I probably would have gone my whole life without knowing it
I would have married a man without loving him. But arranged marriages were pretty common back then, and people married without love all the time. I would have seen the novels and plays about star-crossed lovers, and just thought "well that's nice, but it doesn't reflect reality"
And I would have submitted myself to sex, and probably not really enjoyed it. But women aren't supposed to enjoy sex, right? Sexual pleasure is for men. For women, it's just another job we have to do. I might have even assumed that being uninterested in sex was a universal female experience
If I'd been born in a different time, I could have gone my whole life without ever realizing that I was supposed to actually want what was happening to me
It's strange to think about. And a bit saddening, when I realize that this is probably exactly what happened to countless people throughout history. It makes me grateful to live in a time where we not only have words for this stuff, but an entire community for it
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blole-hack · 2 years
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i aged 50 years trying to talk to someone who is ignorant about apl people, and I'm not even apl!
i feel so bad for the bullshit y'all have to put up with seriously.
I'm now 50 years old,,,, spent too much time trying to talk to a random stranger...wasted all my energy... didn't do my schoolwork. am a hobo on the streets because I'm now gonna be jobless...
they were preaching something about how its so sad for teens to be aplatonic... bitch what...who you talking about 💀����💀💀💀💀💀💀 thats not even me and.... what??? but they're fine being aplatonic???????? talk to the loners who are having trouble making friends and WANT friends instead, not me 😭😭😭 i have friends and not aplatonic people because they're fine without friends!!!!!
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hey, i think i may be aroace and i’m interested in learning more and getting to know the community; are there any specific blogs i should follow or group chats that i could be added to? i’d appreciate any help! <3
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luisleyyaoi · 2 years
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sylviawitch · 2 years
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you know how lots of teens are like ”no parents ever have sex because thats just ugh”… do you think they realise that in saying that parents are asexual, they’re maintaining that all parents are intrinsically queer?
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riseandshineace · 2 years
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apostateseraphim · 2 years
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Lil bit of Rude/Aphobic questions for ya
ONE OF MY ROOMMATES JUST ASKED ME, AND I SHIT U NOT
"ARE YOU NOT WORRIED THAT YOUR BF WILL BETRAY U" (its a long distance)
"WHAT WOUD U DO IF U SAW AN ATTRACTIVE WOMEN AND CAN U GET A BONOR CUZ OF WOMEN"
LIKE YA COUD HAVE ATLEAST TRIED TO ASK IF MY DICK WORKS IN A POLITE MANNER CMON
like im gay and ace girl cmon, what do u think these words mean ;-;
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