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ride-thedragon · 17 days
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A MILD GLIMPSE AT LAENOR AND RHAENYRA.
I do find their dynamic in episode 6 and 7 very interesting, but the first time I watched the show, I did not get what was being communicated between them. Her words to him felt wrong and different with every conversation, and I didn't know why I didn't believe it when the events of episode 7 happened, but I think I do now.
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A few things, Laenor does do his duty. They both hold up their end of the bargain it's just unwillingly on his end by the end.
From the start, Laenor is mourning Joffrey in their marriage. That's how it happens. Shortly after, based on age, Jace is conceived with Harwin.
A lot of assumptions seem to be that Laenor and Rhaenyra weren't trying, but I don't think that's it. It seems more likely that they did, and Rhaenyra went after Ser Harwin either way. Because Laenor is being forced to do his duty, I can't imagine him disregarding it. Especially if the deleted scenes are being taken into consideration, but another thing is that Harwin isn't some politically correct decision.
People act as though in the first year of their marriage Rhaenyra needed to be pregnant, but that's not true. It just happened, and I don't see the pregnancy carrying out without some possibility of Jace being Laenor’s, with all eyes on them. The issue was never Laenor not doing his duty. It was that there was no joy in it. Rhaenyra found that with Ser Harwin. That's actual show dialogue.
Laenor in the show doesn't go to Driftmark. In no conversation does it seem as though he has that break from court life. The strength of being a Velayron is taken from him with no noble house Velayron men at the Keep or him being able to go back and prepare himself for his role as heir. This is a world building issue. But also isolated him to the Red Keep unwillingly, it seems.
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Then we consider that he cares for Rhaenyra. Ten years later, and he's telling her, "Let's go back, stop making the show of Alicent commands, this is dangerous you're in pain." She disregards him, which is the first of many times we see.
After he's called a cuckold by Alicent, Rhaenyra makes sure he's aware of her dislike of the name Joffrey or him choosing it. I think that scene perfectly analyses their dynamic.
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Rhaenyra doesn't like it, Laenor defends it, and she disregards it with something else that's irrelevant in that context. He's playing his role, naming their child, being there at the birth like a happy father would be waiting to meet him, walking with his wife to the king, publicly but quietly doting on her health and taking everything said against him because that is his son but that's not enough for her because in this moment she's upset with him for nsming Joffrey and Alicent.
We see this play out with the "our sons," "are they insinuations" dialogue, and reinforced.
Laenor wants to go to the Stepstones, unaware of the fighting taking place. She says rumours follow their sons, and he asks if they are rumours. This shows his disconnect from the situation at hand. Even a small joke, she discredits from him rightfully but is still isolating for him from their reality. Then, the worst lines from Rhaenyra come out. And I don't know why these are often ignored, but they're based on the characterization of her in her adult years of wanting everything at the cost of nothing because of her position.
She blames Laenor for not being there for them, uses his sexuality and the agreement they had to do so and then makes him stay at her side when he doesn't want to because she thinks it's good for appearances not taking anything he's saying into consideration.
Then we find out that Laenor writes to Laena all the time, it seems because Daemon doesn't want to go back, and Rhaenyra doesn't let Laenor leave. Laenor being restless has been his way, but she kept him at her side. And then Laena dies, and he's crushed.
This is after Rhaenyra finally decides that they can leave for Dragonstone, which is away from all the questions of court, tells him he can bring Quarl and doesn't let him make the decision. We see how upset he is before she tells him of that. Laenor seems to find out about losing Laena on Dragonstone.
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Laena is gone, and he's reeling from her loss. He's in the water trying to be near her, grieving. He's getting drunk and can't perform his role, being accosted by Corlys (I know it's Quarl but context clues) for it and is in no position to do anything. He's lost the one person who would be happy for him with this change, the person who he keeps in contact with ten years later. He's distraught.
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And Rhaenyra’s conclusion, although based on the fact that she's lost Ser Harwin, is to say he'll be useless to her now.
She sleeps with Daemon, which I won't get into because it doesn't matter right now, but two conversations happen. We see Laenor get drunk, and in Quarl's attempt to go fix his spirits, be completely unaware of the whole Driftmark fight, Rhaenyra sleeping with Daemon or what has occurred with Vhagar and Aemond.
Laenors words to her are I should've been there. I didn't protect Laena, I did not protect you, and there is no comfort. She tells him to sit. They have this conversation, which is his apologies while grieving for his failing and her saying he's a good man with a good heart.
The condition of Laenor in this scene is heartbreaking because of what happens next. He's lost Laena. He's trying to do right by his family, recommiting himself to them, and she suggests he fake kill himself and escape with Quarl. He's confronting their past mistake of thinking that love and marriage are mutually exclusive and knowing his lover is being sent away and that Harwin is dead dedicates himself to Rhaenyra and their boys, wanting to be a family.
But because of Daemon, that's a long gone possibility for her. It's not for him. We don't get to see her, or Daemon or Quarl suggest Laenor leaving, but based on their relationship in the last episodes, he'd simply agree if she said it, reluctantly so.
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jiangwanyinscatmom · 9 months
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can u explain the concept of the death of the author? i understand there is always more than angle to approach and interpret things from anyways and people dont have to agree fully. but like how does this make sense in fandoms? so far in my experience in mxtx fandoms i feel like it is used dismissively to justify a person’s headcanons or misinterpretations or misrepresentations of the text or characters or romance. obv the author doesn’t control the text once it is published but ti imply like you know better about their characters or text when they write tight narratives like mxtx seems kinda weird to me lol
Hello there anon.
Well, from what I can preface what this means is simply: a literary theory that argues that the meaning of a text is not determined by the author's intention, but rather by the reader's interpretation.
Authorial intent and theme establishment is irrelevant here, in theory it relies on what the reader feels it means and is reader-centric in practice. The text of the work is not the point, it is what it makes me, the reader, feel about the execution of plot device and what I think it is about from a personal perception and what my final interpretation of it is as a whole regardless of textual passage thematics and authorial intent for why this is written the way it had been.
Now, I'm not a fan of this literary theory. It's pretty much my most disliked literary analysis approach since there is little point in trying to argue that one personal reaction is relevant next to the other come time for example and author intention that can and will dismiss what I may have unintentionally assumed, and still choose to despite it having no concrete basis from the text itself.
This has been twisted in fandom space, especially within the past 20 years now to mean, I do not like this or care about author end goal and will use death of the author to claim textual validity (or hey no textual basis because impulse first) that is not or has no merit other than my personal want and feelings.
I can argue for something nebulous as thinking Madam Yu did care about Wei Wuxian, because I may want to see her reactions as parental due to personal experiences, but we are not given this within the work nor is it ever implied. But I can choose to say death of the author here, because my personal interpretation/experience tells me it is so. This also veers into ship discourse, the author straight out will say no other men in book are romantically involved and do not feel romantic inclination, but, I think there is chemistry and sexual tensions within their interactions, therefore my interpretation trumps that of author intent due to my assumption.
My personal interpretation is above that of author meaning of thematics they wanted to explore. My unintended themes I see are most important. I see something here that the author didn't want or need to explore for the work, therefore I can sit in a nebulous space that works for fandom exploration. This gets tricky when the fandom interpretation starts to run counter productive to the work itself, as with the likes of Jiang Cheng. He is not meant to be a good role model or a positive position by author intent, but fandom can begin to carve him into something that is not intentional and death of the author begins. The death of the author interpretations become popular while running counter point to the original intention and it begins to be argued from the start the death of the author theory was meant all along despite the contrary.
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bluespring864 · 4 months
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I want to thank you very much for the post you made on Nole getting hate. People will use his tag that as a fan I use to update myself on him and they shit on him. They treat him as if he's the worse person ever when he is not even the worse playing in the ATPs???? Like there's a wife beater on the semis (that is constantly getting praised on this app and others) and they'd rather talk about how nole is "probably" bad when they dont even know him.
Well, I have never seen any Zverev praise on tumblr since I joined (which was after the accusations got widely publicised) but maybe it exists on blogs I don't interact with. What you're right about is that Novak certainly doesn't appear to be the worst person in the ATP, quite the contrary. Among other things, he has founded an organisation for player's rights + interests that should really have existed long ago (seeing as they are all self-employed) and seems to be genuinely interested in improving things for the players who come after him. He also helps lots of young players, especially from Serbia, financially. That kind of thing is not going to convince anyone who dislikes him because dislikes are hardly very rational, but I think it should at least be enough for people to be as civil about the guy as they are about other players and not make this fandom space hostile for Novak fans, many of whom have reached out to me in the DMs or as you did on anon to say that they don't want the drama on their own blog but are happy that I am speaking about this. Just today I talked to a friend who told me they might take themselves off tumblr for 2 weeks, however the semifinal and final go, because in all cases there will be Novak hate: gleeful hate if he loses, bitter hate if he wins. It's a shame, but at the moment it's like that.
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rubyroboticalt · 3 months
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https://www.tumblr.com/rubyroboticalt/727267145704259584/the-current-final-page-i-dont-really-have-any?source=share
I NEED MORE OF THIS??? PLEASE tell me about this au omg
OH BABY I WAS SAVING THIS FOR WHEN I HAD THE BRIAN FOR IT! including bolding and italics for easier reading on my part
i am SO fond of my witch in the well au. the connection was between witch!lying and witchcraft smp being, well, witches. the basic concept was one of the witchcrafters accidentally summons/awakens an old power, which freed lying from the well. originally it was actually going to be scott who freed them, by trying and failing to contact an ancient power, but then joey literally fell into a well. and that was just too poetic to ignore. i think lying was going to be a fear witch specifically.
>i dont have significant plot beyond the comic, which is why it's ended (tentative, if i get ideas i may continue), but i and some friends did have ideas for interactions beyond it. if it had continued, joey was going to make some deals with the witch for more power. to quote my own discord msgs on it, "maybe he does want to be the supreme witch, but is it worth this? lying makes him uneasy. he can't help but feel he's in danger, whenever he's around them. like there's something off" (mar 2023). so joey ends up in an uneasy sort of alliance, in part because after he escaped the well by digging/building out (not bound by the magic lying was, free to move and craft as he pleases), they look very much like a wet cat.
>cleo would recognize that dealing with the fear witch is a bad idea, but also treats them more as a nuisance than a threat until given evidence to the contrary. she also antagonizes them a little, because cleo in witchcraft (and in general) refuses to be intimidated even when given good reason, and the witch is all about intimidating people.
something something slapfight between the fear witch trying to intimidate and cleo's refusal to be scared. cleo doesn't tend to overestimate themself, so how well that slapfight goes for her depends on if she realizes it won't go well for her and plays cautious or if she leans in to the slapfight and sees what lying is capable of. if it's the latter, they probably get taken out of commission long enough to preserve the critical mistake moment for others. lying, to cleo, seems a little like a jokey thing and there's a significant chance she underestimates them.
part of what makes cleo and lying's interaction/slapfight so interesting is both of them spec'd into defense and retaliation instead of offense, meaning there's a tense waiting period to see who strikes first. there might be social tension because witch!cleo and lying the witch are similar, but cleo has friendly allies and lying has only the hesitant alliance with joey. that could be dug into and inspected closely for good plot points.
another angle that was discussed was cleo, being the time witch, may have met other lyings/at least be aware of them, giving her a reason to be wary. if she has, then she probably plays cautious, and during the crux of the intimidation slapfight she makes an escape. she honestly may have been friends with other lyings in other timelines!
and, tbh, from what ive seen and heard of lyings in general, they are mostly posturing and intimidation. witch!lying has gotten their ass kicked both times ive seen an actual fight (priest!lying, maid!lying, for example). they have a lot of defensive power but there's not much to back up that posturing. in contrast, cleo is closer to 70% posturing, but has power to back that up. the witch is scary and smart, but cleo is on a server with a bunch of maniacs who kill each other for fun (civil war, house war, demise, turf war, whatever the hell season 8 was, tag, decked out 1 & 2, demise 2, etc) where the witch was on a server where folks killed in self defense or to settle scores. this means the way they approach conflict differs!
>cupquake keeps her distance because the trees give her a quick psa to Stay Away From That Thang, depicted in the comic as the trees becoming more storybook horror gnarled branches the closer cupquake got. another funny quote from the outline for the comic "for once it is the trees who speak for the lorax" (mar 2023). iirc i may have written stuff in the branches but idr? ik i wrote things in the fog but the fog was specifically lying luring ppl in to free them. cupquake nopes out and plays avoidance hardcore, bc what i recall from watching her as a kid is while she has a lot of magic power once she gets into the midgame of botania, she's also very easy to startle/scare.
>an interesting point brought up is the ravens, tameable ravens from the modpack! el had a conversation with one in her first episode and shelby tamed one. the witch can see through ravens' eyes iirc. el thinks they're crows but based on how they're tamed they're bewitchment ravens. i didnt go too deep into this one for the comic but theres potential there.
>i never fleshed out the end of the story/plot regarding the supreme witch but i imagine the goal is getting the witch back to their home server or something. maybe they partake in the competition to be supreme witch, maybe they dont. honestly feel free to riff off of what i have written! witch in the well was made collaboratively and id love to see how other folks play in the universe!
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baekhvuns · 2 years
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They wooooooon that's soooo cool not only the win itself, but when 3 of them were hosting what were the odds?! 💗💗💗💗 the encore with HongSeongSang serving Wave era realness 😭
Yes, Hwa interacted with some rookies, the ATBO guy, then someone from Younite, just adopt the kids! Keeho took his chance with Joong, just like Keonhee from Oneus, went for Hongjoong's buttcheek 😭 The undercut may have looked nice.... idk 😏 But mate if you want a ponytail I have a solution for you: GROW YOUR HAIR OUT 😊 sigh not gonna say anything, but 😳
The panther to Bodyguard Dumbles: I'm you but stronger. Stop because you keep teasing me and I'm gonna evaporate before you post it 😭
Ok this Noddy doesn't look THAT bad, but I can literally hear the fucking intro in my head and 🔪 WHAT THE FUCK NODDY WHAT DID YOU DO???
Because it was a more traditional hanbok I think 5 layers? It's still not that much hahaha, later I took off 3 layers of undergarments cause it was too hoooot, but the whole process of putting it on was fascinating.
THAT MINGI CARD JEZZSSSUSUSSS. So me and my friend got 6 albums in total and here are the pulls: FOUR Jongho ID cards?! Whack.... I don't need those, one Hongjoong ID, one San. Cards: Hwa x4 (lol), Mingi x4 (lol), Yunho x2, Joong x2, Yeosang x2, San, Woo and Jongho x1. Well we pulled everyone 😭
I'm gonna kms, because I've been talking about this sort of uni AU ever since runner Hwa made a comeback and... yes, yes this is exactly it! And you know perhaps they could bond over their struggles and help each other out, you get it 😭 more sporty Hwa coming AAAAAAAA. Omfg roller skating so nice, but fuck the teacher! I did lots of sports in primary and middle school, then lost interest but also started having some health issues.
Bestie I was never a water drinker, I suppose I drank it from time to time cause I had no choice? But I didn't have fun doing that. 👎🏻 I played football and tennis also did karate. I'm not very flexible anymore... on the contrary, the joints are popping :/
Yeah glazed donut therefore I need to BITE. Omfg Jongho in his God's Menu waiter era <3 the fits for Sector 1 were really neat, professor Mingi...
What is this IG post idususheshehebve I mean they made an effort with the makeup...
Personally I like the left bottom mood chart best!
Bestie I just saw this thread, Atinys are...... interesting 😭 Hwa winning in the nose... and tongue category too 🥴
K FUCKING Q BE NORMAL AND STOP THIS BULLSHIT. Oh to be a cat faced balloon - DV 💖
hi hello!!
They wooooooon that's soooo cool not only the win itself, but when 3 of them were hosting what were the odds?! 💗💗💗💗 the encore with HongSeongSang serving Wave era realness 😭
THE ODDS ARE REALLY IN THEIR FAVOUR THIS CB AND I HOPE IT LASTS A LONG WHILE 😭😭 sTOP BC SEONGHWA LOOKED SO CUTE IN THAT OUTFIT
Yes, Hwa interacted with some rookies, the ATBO guy, then someone from Younite, just adopt the kids! Keeho took his chance with Joong, just like Keonhee from Oneus, went for Hongjoong's buttcheek 😭 The undercut may have looked nice.... idk 😏 But mate if you want a ponytail I have a solution for you: GROW YOUR HAIR OUT 😊 sigh  not gonna say anything, but 😳
omg pls they’re all seniors now 😭🤚🏼 LMFAOOOO BFKWHDWK I SAW THAT BUTT CHEEK THING PLS 😭😭😭 nO HEY LOOK IF HE GROWS HIS HAIR COUR LONGER, IM PASSING AWAY AND COMING BACK AS CHANGED BLOG WHO ONLY WRITES FOR SEONGHWA 🔫
“The undercut may have looked nice.... idk 😏”
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oh??????? i smELL A ETL WITH UNDERCUTS WITH U DBDBD
The panther to Bodyguard Dumbles: I'm you but stronger. Stop because you keep teasing me and I'm gonna evaporate before you post it 😭
LMFAOOO ABSOLUTELY SUPER STRONG and does not like seonghwa 🥰 JDJDJD how WILL U EVAPORATE IF U DONT GOT ANY WATER IN YOU 🔫🔫
Ok this Noddy doesn't look THAT bad, but I can literally hear the fucking intro in my head and 🔪 WHAT THE FUCK NODDY WHAT DID YOU DO???
NO BC THIS NODDY SO CUTE 😭😭 that other one???? good thing she gone but who tf designed her 😭😭😭 she looks more like annabelle than irl annabelle herself 😭😭 LMFAOOOO RIGHT???? GIRLIE I THOUGHT U WERE GOOD BUT A RACIST??? 😭😭😭🤚🏼
Because it was a more traditional hanbok I think 5 layers? It's still not that much hahaha, later I took off 3 layers of undergarments cause it was too hoooot, but the whole process of putting it on was fascinating.
AHHH IT WAS ABSOLUTELY WORTH IT NO? SO COOL WEARING IT AND DOING THAT SPIN
THAT MINGI CARD JEZZSSSUSUSSS. So me and my friend got 6 albums in total and here are the pulls: FOUR Jongho ID cards?! Whack.... I don't need those, one Hongjoong ID, one San. Cards: Hwa x4 (lol), Mingi x4 (lol), Yunho x2, Joong x2, Yeosang x2, San, Woo and Jongho x1. Well we pulled everyone 😭
NO RIGHT THAT MINGI CARD??? ROB LIST. FOUR?????? HFBWBDWN TIME TO TRADE BESTIES,,, 4 HWAS????? EXCUSE ME???? 🔫🔫 on my way open the door. iM ON MY WAY. WHICH HWAS DID U PULL THO? just got notif that my album is ready to be picked dbdbdb will be manifesting hwa <3
I'm gonna kms, because I've been talking about this sort of uni AU ever since runner Hwa made a comeback and... yes, yes this is exactly it! And you know perhaps they could bond over their struggles and help each other out, you get it 😭 more sporty Hwa coming AAAAAAAA. Omfg roller skating so nice, but fuck the teacher! I did lots of sports in primary and middle school, then lost interest but also started having some health issues.
YOU GOT IT I WILL WRITE IT THIS POST REEKS SPORTS RIVALS HWA I WILL ABSOLUTELY WRITE IT,,, yes the rivalry first and then the struggles and how they help each other and then have fun during it and then ultimately be that one team <3 wow the nsfw part, might just be 🤌🏼✨✨ yEAH FUCK TEACHER 🔫🔫😭 ur life is so chaotic, u did everything and did sO many jobs and then also travelled so much??? hOW
Bestie I was never a water drinker, I suppose I drank it from time to time cause I had no choice? But I didn't have fun doing that. 👎🏻 I played football and tennis also did karate. I'm not very flexible anymore... on the contrary, the joints are popping :/
LMFAOOO i just imagine u getting yelled at for not drinking water while chugging down a drink <3 oOHO KARATE?? i did it once but never after that’s dbdb LMFAOOOO UR JOINTS ARE JOPPING, GET IT J = JOINTS AND POPPING = THE JOINT POPPPING? NO? OKAY BDDB
Yeah glazed donut therefore I need to BITE. Omfg Jongho in his God's Menu waiter era <3 the fits for Sector 1 were really neat, professor Mingi...
miss ma’am.
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NO. NO DONT PUT PROF MINGI NO. 🔫.
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What is this IG post idususheshehebve I mean they made an effort with the makeup... Personally I like the left bottom mood chart best!
LMFAOOOO 😭😭 THE WAY MY JAW DROPPED WHEN THE MAKEUP PART CAME 😭😭😭 oKAY GOT IT I WILL USE THAT ONE!!! THANK U!!!
Bestie I just saw this thread, Atinys are......interesting 😭 Hwa winning in the nose... and tongue category too 🥴
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doja was right.
why did u send this to me.
it’s making me want to write a neW fIc jfbwndbdndbdbdbd 😀.
K FUCKING Q BE NORMAL AND STOP THIS BULLSHIT. Oh to be a cat faced balloon - DV 💖
NO LITERALLY THATS SO MUCH STUFF???? KQ ARENT WE OVERTHROWING THE GOVT NOT THE ENVIRONMENT HELP???????
BESTIE DID U SEE THIS DBDBDBDBDB
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a little quiz !!!
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fragilefangirl · 3 years
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Ok since i'm neck deep into Shang-chi craze i just want to point out that for all its amazing potential, this movie missed one thing and it's an exploration Xialing and Wenwu's relationship.
Asian daughters are not ignored to nonexistence. We interacted with our fathers. It's just that when it comes to important stuff like serious family matters, we are never involved. As a result, conversations with our fathers usually involve annoying things like physical appearances and marriages.
Here is what should be understood; most Asian dads, especially traditional ones at that, dont know what to do when they have daughters. With sons, the purpose is clear; an heir, a successor, someone to pass the torch to. With daughters, they're not sure. Asian family emphasizes a lot on roles; fathers are to protect, mothers are to nurture, sons are to continue. But daughters are a grey area, and for some reason thousands of years of civilization had yet to manage roles for daughters that are not just a preparation for their future role as mothers.
Contrary to popular belief, i don't really believe Wenwu is outwardly sexist i.e. discriminative to his daughter. He fell in love with a woman who could kick his ass, for fuck's sake. He gave up everything to be with her and followed their vows through until she died--men don't behave like this when they think women are inherently an object. Wenwu doesn't see women as objects, or if he did he saw them the same way he saw men were in the context of his ongoing rampage and colonialization.
Instead, i think at his core Wenwu is afraid. He might not be outwardly sexist, but he is a traditional man, and when he had a daughter i think the instinct to protect is even bigger than when he had Shangqi. Not because he loved one of them more, but because Xialing is a girl, and in his eyes girls are more vulnerable, more prominent to threats. He managed to interact properly with her in the first 4 years of her life because this assumption was never proven, but then Ying Li died and he couldn’t help but to think that his line of thinking is true.
So I believe that Xialing was prohibited from training for this very reason; for Wenwu, she was vulnerable. For Wenwu, She has to be protected. It adds salt to the wound that she has similar features to Ying Li, which only reminded him of how he failed to protect his family the first time.
Regarding the ignorance, I truly believe she wasn't forgotten, per say. Wenwu knew where she was, knew how her ring worked in order to infiltrate them (dramatically) properly. He puts enough attention to her to gain these updates. He probably watched her fight with Shang-chi and waited until they were done. He cares for her, just not outwardly the way he cared for Shangqi. Also, I do believe that he thought Xialing was capable, because not once did he interfere with her illegal ring fight thing up until 3 days before his death.
One occasion I can't help but to notice was the dinner table talk. When Wenwu droned Katy into his monologue, Xialing and Shangqi exchanged glances, made faces, rolled eyes, sighed in exaggeration. This wasn't the first time he did this, and he'd probably done it enough times for a.) Them to expect it and b.) Him to not be pissed at them for being dramatic about it. So I took it that dinner was still an occasion even after their mother died, and perhaps even after Shangqi left, but what used to be a platform to exchange each other's day turned into a one-man show where Wenwu drilled repetitive values to his children that they could probably repeat in their head word-per-word because he isn't creative and even 1000 years old warlord can run out of stories.
And interaction with children, with daughters, are usually like that; we're not conversing, we're listening. Dads don't usually know our interests, so they fall into old patterns of giving us unsolicited advices on life that's probably outdated. When it's over, they leave, thinking they've done their share of parenting when they haven't listened to us once. It's shitty and really disheartening, but that doesn't mean the care isn't there, or that there aren't other forms of care exhibited. Like, there is no way that Xialing has never opened the door to a platter of sliced fruit in front of her door. There is no way that she had never received a scolding when she fell and hurt herself. These, too, are interaction and care.
I would love to see more interaction between Wenwu and Xialing addressing this. She lived the longest with him, and they lived in one house. There is no way that he just kind of forgot she existed, and never talked to her once during those 12 years of sharing a space. I wish this movie portrays more implicit interactions between them, and finally addresses it in the final act. I wish Xialing, too, got the closure from her hurt. That would've made her Ten Rings takeover even sweeter.
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momiji-bookhouse · 2 years
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I love how you write albedo, would you mind doing him w/ 4am?
[4 am]: "if you're lonely, come be lonely with me"
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100 Followers Event Prompts + Masterlist (Closed)
now playing: this side of paradise - coyote theory
pairing: Albedo x gn!reader
genre: honestly i dont even know what this is
a/n: Tk u! I'm still learning how to write for Albedo because he's a very complex character, so I hope I've been doing him justice. And this is the last event request!
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Dragonspine is a place of secrets, a place of wonder and dangers alike. A place where even the everlasting snowfall cannot conceal the mysteries buried under its thick and pristine blanket even as eons passed.
It is a place not for those weak of heart and mind, but those with a wanderer's soul and a spark of curiosity that burns brighter than their fears will inevitably be drawn to this place like a haunting song.
There are few like that, and fewer still those who voluntary stay in this barren landscape in pursuit of answers to the most elusive questions regarding the world and its existence.
As such, Albedo has grown used to the silence accompanying him during these hours, when most are deep into the clutch of sleep, as he walks around the small camp engrossed in his work.
Nothing but the humming wind, the crackling of the fire and the occasional scribbling of pen on paper.
"Hello?" Albedo's eyes flicker to the entrance of the cave with lightning speed, his heart beating faster for a moment as his eyebrows furrow.
"Is anyone here?"
He decides not to answer less the person is one of those pesky Fatuis that loiter around Dragonspine. He remains in his position with his eyes on the mouth of the cave, but his Vision is glowing in preparation.
Sparkles gather in his hands as he readies to brandish his weapon at the sight of a silhouette, but they dissipate when he sees a very confused-looking you approaching very hesitantly.
"My apologies." You look just as taken aback as he is, almost jolting out of your skin as your eyes become impossibly wide. "I-I saw the fire, but I did not expect to see another human being here."
"No, it's quite alright, I was surprised as well." Albedo says while subtly giving you a once-over. He is certain he has never seen you in Mondstadt before, and you do not seem to wear the style of clothing that most people of Mondstadt wears. On the contrary, there's something foreign and almost ancient about your clothing, but he does not know enough about fashion to comment.
"Am I disturbing you? I can leave if you prefer."
Now that statement has him even more perplexed. No person with a sane mind would even think about walking around Dragonspine at this hour of night and even if they did, they would certainly not choose to venture back out to the cold when they saw a camp with a roaring fire. He knows he has a reputation of not being the best at interacting with people, but he is not about to turn you away.
"There's no need for that, you can come in and sit by the fire. I can prepare you a hot drink if you like."
"Thank you, but you do not have to worry about me. I just need a few minutes by the fire."
He nods and you glide into the seat, hands reaching out to feel the heat emanating from the flames. There are frostbites on your skin, and he wondered how long you were actually out in the cold, alone no less.
Albedo rarely ever have any guests coming to his workspace, so he is unsure of what to say or do during this moment. Should he leave you to your own devices? Or should he try to strike up a conversation with you and listen to the part in his brain that wants to know who you are and why you're here?
But you've already spoke up before he can reach a conclusion.
"Apologies, it has been a while since I interact with another person," you say sheepishly. "Frankly, I do not know what to say right now."
He almost breathes a sigh of relief. "I'm not the best at talking with others, too. I'm Albedo, Chief Alchemist of the Knights of Favonius."
"The Knights of Favonius?" You tilt your head to one side as a confused look pass by your face, as if though you've never heard of that name before. "I see."
"And you?"
You lower your hands, and he sees the way your lips thinned as a hesitant look pass by your face.
"It's okay if you don't want to tell me," he reassures, not wanting to push you. "You can stay here for the night. I can set up a sleeping bag for you."
Albedo is just about to go get the bag for you when he hears your voice again.
"(Y/N)."
He turns to look at you, your face lowered while your eyes are trained on the fire. "My name is (Y/N)."
He tries to offer a smile. "That's a beautiful name. Let me go get the bag for you, you must be tired."
Albedo rustles behind the shelves, mind reeling from your strange behavior. There's something about you that he can't put a finger on, something forlorn about your whole countenance that makes him question just how long you've actually gone without human interaction.
(Not that he's human, but he digresses)
He finally takes out the sleeping bag and dusts it off. "I would like to apologize beforehand for any noise I'll be making. I still have work to do, so you can go to sleep whenever you want-"
His words are cut off when he returns to see no one by the fire, the seat that you once occupied now empty. He drops the bag and rushes out of the camp, his head whirling frantically around, but there's no sight of you. And there's no footprints on the snow either.
Albedo runs back inside, thinking maybe you're behind one of the shelves, but there is no trace of you. No mark or anything to prove that you were once here. Even the chair that you sat on has no warmth to it, as if though no one was ever there to begin with.
And he is alone, once more.
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Hi!
So I don't understand why everytime Sasuke is doing something nice for Sakura, it's considered romantic? Like Idk, Sasuke saving Sakura just so she won't get a concussion is romanticized. Him trying to show affection by thanking her is romantic. Giving her a hand to help her get up is romantic.. Anything that a regular teammate would do for the other in their case is romanticized..
Like, do they lack so much chemistry to the point that Sasuke addressing her by her name will be romantic?
Hello :) Well i think a lot of facts have to do wit this topic: 1) The fact that they are canon makes people believe that every interaction before the canon statement foreshadows their (non existent) relationship. So despite none of those interactions were meant to be romantic maybe, people, fans will see them as a foreshadowing hence will say all of that content was romantic. 2) The lack of content they have, in order for this canon pair to become well...canon, leads to their fans to see any (few) interaction they have as a romantic foreshadowing. They believe every interaction from them is Important to both relationship, but reality is that those moments were only meaningful for Sakura, not sasuke.
3) Well this is not only in naruto , but in a lot of medias that some people cannot see a friendship between a woman and a man and think everything leads to sexual/romantic desires. Also, this one is attached that many people believe all characters are straight until proven the contrary. For example, Tenten and Neji. They have beautiful and great friendship <3 I never shipped them, but if a relationship between these 2 were to happen we wouldnt be that surprised since they were very good friends. This is how a good friendship is portrayed ( and people tell me kishimoto does not know how to write romance- bonds -or women) But the deal is, A BIG PART of the fandom believed they were in love¿¿¿¿¿¿ Why? I dont know, just because they have , not even chemistry, but a good dynamic, dudebros believe they wanna tear off those clothes.
-Thre is this OVA in 3d crossed ways/paths. Where Sasuke saves Naruto and Sakura. He FIRST kicks naruto away so he doesnt get attacked by the enemy, and then he take sakura in his arms. Dudebros and SS fans were crazy because OMG HE TOOK HER IN HIS ARMS <3 <3<3<3 and ???? I mean, yeah you can see it as romantic but he also saved naruto. And also, she is A GIRL. Was other way to save her despite not taking her in his arms? Did they want him to kick her as with naruto? XD
4) Sasuke didnt interact that much with women, because he just didnt want to and the narrative didnt put him in that situation. So that Sakura is one of the few women he interacted with...well SS fans flies their imagination and headcanons. But they completely erase Karin lol
5) Concluding I think the main reason is the first one. The fact of being canon makes people see their "relationship" through another lens plus they have maybe 1 or 2 "romantic tropes" (which SNS wins in here ofc) so people will believe this is enough. But something is sure, Sakura and kakashi are somehow very irrelevant in Sasuke life. Sakura and Kakashi can be replaced by any other character and the feelings will be the same. Replace Sakura or erase her from his life and plot will remain almost intact. If we can take sakura away from Sasuke life, and the plot won't be affected by his pov, how important is she in the end? I ask SS fans to do this exercise.
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nikrangdan · 3 years
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classmate!sunghoon
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pairing: classmate!sunghoon x female reader
genre: fluff, comedy
description: you felt like park sunghoon was way, WAY out of your league... what happens when the teacher tells him to move seats and sit next to you?
*didnt proofread
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becoming friends with park sunghoon was not something you expected to happen this year
throughout high school you had a small group of friends and never really stuck out
so when your teacher told sunghoon to move seats..
the seat happened to be the empty one next to..
guess who *cue the evil laugh*
YOU!!!!
your first thought was
‘this entire year is just gonna be him completely ignoring my existence or awkward interactions’
now you’ve heard of park sunghoon.... its basically a guarantee at your high school
he has this group of friends and theyre labelled as the popular kids i guess you could say
and the only reason he had to move seats in your two hour long class was because he and his friend jake goof off in class too often and your teacher deemed them “too distracting”
so eventually sunghoon was forced to move all the way across the classroom
right next to you
you were shocked to say the least
obviously he was handsome
too handsome to the point where you questioned how someone as good looking as him went to your school
he sighed and got up from his chair next to jake
but he still had a small smile remaining on his face indicating he wasnt that upset about him having to leave his friend
your heart began to beat quicker automatically as he walked towards your desk
even if you didnt have a crush on him like alot of people did, you still felt nervous around popular students like him for some reason
he ran his hand through his hair and sat down next to you, setting his bookbag on the floor next to him
he didnt look at you, nor acknowledge you
Awkward....
but nonetheless the lecture began again and the class sat in silence
taking notes on their laptops or sleeping
there were around 30 people in your class and your seat was in the middle row next to the window so you often gazed outside from the 2nd floor during class
you glanced to your right and noticed sunghoon slouched back in his seat, twirling around a pencil in his hand while his laptop remained open on his desk
it was just a white screen so he didnt take any notes
you were surpised because you knew he had fairly decent grades
you ignored your thoughts and continued taking your own notes
soon enough the bell rang and sunghoon stood up immediately and walked over to jake
‘yup’ you thought. ‘we are definitely not going to be having a single conversation this year.’
fast forward a couple days!!!!
you were sitting in class next to the boy
as normal
and you still have yet to talk to him.. mainly because you never initiated conversations ESPECIALLY when its a really really cute boy
anyways
ur teacher is like
Ok class im assigning a project and ur partner is the person sitting next to u
yay!!!!!! (can u sense the sarcasm)
welp
you sit in silence while everyone in the class starts discussing with their partners
the project is you have to make a presentation on a world issue of your choice
“um...” u start
sunghoon starts pulling out his laptop and binder
“what do you wanna do?”
he doesnt even look you
well!!!!!!
u didnt know sunghoon and his group of friends very well but u definitely thought they were more... friendly than this
its silent for like 5 seconds
“huh? oh sorry did you say something?”
“uh yeah.. i asked what you wanted to do for the project.”
“project?”
God u tried so hard not to laugh
you think he noticed because his cheeks turned a really light shade of pink
he looked so innocent
“yeah we have to make a presentation” you lightly chuckled
he was very amusing without even trying
“oh sorry haha.. i zone out easily”
“its okay.. but its due in less than 2 weeks so”
so you two spent the next hour choosing a topic and working on the project
it was kind of awkward for the first 10 minutes but then you warmed up to eachother
u were lucky that he was an extrovert too
(sunghoon is an extrovert for the sake of this story OK)
u were also lucky that he was smart
it was easy for you to talk to him.. he just felt comfortable
contrary to ur prior belief.. sunghoon was actually a really really cool guy
u used to think he was just a guy
now u think hes a really really cool guy
“can you please stop putting penguin clip art on the slides” you giggle
then he puts parrot clip art instead
“do your work!!!!” he was supposed to keep researching but he was trying to balance his pen on his nose
“shhh y/n... im doing something important.”
you roll your eyes
he was always doing something that was Not work
but you found it entertaining
and he’d make dumb little jokes that made you both hide your faces in your arms on top of the desk to hide your laughter
“hey y/n”
“what”
“what do you call an old snowman”
“i dunno.. snowgramps”
“no.. water”
you both made eye contact before bursting into laughter and then forcing yourselves to be quiet before u got in trouble
but that made everything funnier so you both were just covering your faces while trying so hard not to make a sound
this was so weird
u have never clicked with someone so fast before it honestly felt exciting
you were talking to sunghoon as if you’d been friends with him since birth
Very Very weird because you had only talked to him an hour ago and now u two are acting like besties ?!?!
jake noticed from across the room too
hes like ‘Why is sunghoon having fun without me🙄🙄’
the bell rings and so far you only have 2 slides
“we didnt get anything done” you note as you pack your bag
“yeah yeah i know. we can work on it more tomorrow”
“right.. see you tomorrow” you’re about to head out until jake walks up
“hey bro” he and sunghoon do some kind of made up handshake before he turns to look at you
now you know jake
everyone knows jake
you used to think he was the sweetest out of all their friend group
and he definitely lives up to that!!!
“hey y/n!” he gives u a smile
AWE hes so adorable
“hi” u reply
you were trying to speed up this conversation though so you could go eat lunch with your friend
“hows the project going?” he asks
“bad. sunghoon doesnt know how to do anything.” you deadpanned jokingly
sunghoon looks at you with an offended look that makes you wanna snort
“hey! you’re the one who doesn’t know how to add text to the slide!”
“what the hell sunghoon?! don’t tell him that, it’s embarrassing!” you give him a dirty look before walking out the classroom door with a smile on your face
days passed and you and sunghoon would only speak during that class but whenever you did it would be a mess
“sunghoon, y/n, quiet down! there is no reason for my classroom to be this loud!” your teacher scolds you two after sunghoon slapped his desk after you accidentally snorted
u two had such a weird relationship
u were almost strangers outside this one class but besties when u were in it
jake noticed too
one time he asked sunghoon during lunch why ur relationship was what it was
“i dont know.. thats just how we are” he answered
but jake kind of suspected sunghoon had a crush on u
*wiggles eyebrows*
it had only been a week but jake was determined to set u up together
“y/n you look cold, heres sunghoons jacket!”
“y/n sunghoon needs help with his homework, can you maybe do something about that..”
“sunghoon, y/n looks sad go give her a hug”
needless to say it worked!!!!
because a week after you presented your 2 weeks worth project
sunghoon asked u on a date
YUPPPPPP
let me recite how it went
u were walking out of class together because jake wasnt there that day
sunghoons bookbag was slung over one shoulder and u were stood next to him with both hands on ur straps
“hey.. do u wanna maybe go grab something to eat with me for dinner..? or something” he quickly asked
“what, like a date?” you joke
“uh.. yeah” he replied looking down at u
u stop in your tracks
WHA
No way
“wait what? seriously?” you look up at him with wide eyes
“yes u little munchkin” he pinches your cheeks exaggeratedly and pulls them to make your face sway everywhere
u swat them off so fast
“um.. okay” u answer and ur face heats up
you cant even look him in the eye
like u cant say u DIDNT see this coming but it was still a shock
“awe is y/n blushing” he teases
“go away stupid”
yeah he doesnt go away
ANYWAYS u are the cutest couple ever
everyone wants to be u two so bad!
couple goals literally
jake is so proud of himself honestly
whenever u get into a silly little argument his rebuttal is always
“remind me who got u the best boyfriend ever? thats right, me. dont try me y/n”
and ur like
“ooohhh jakey im so scareddd”
he cannot stand u
but Yeah sunghoon bestest bf ever
takes u on dates whenever u want to
makes u laugh very much
almost too much
and ur parents LOVE him
mhm sunghoon very awesome guy
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DM LIFE
I did one of the harder aspects of being a DM today and told a player they had to leave my table.
And holy shit is the aftermath such a good feeling.
Heres the deal. This player has been increasingly problematic over the almost YEAR my little group has been playing. Off and on I've had trouble with most of my players in one form or another. And have managed to find a way in and out of game to shake things up enough for them that they break out of their bad habits enough that I can work more easily and better with them.
One player essentially copying a CR character almost exactly so I did more research on the race and mixed up their storyline a bit more so they had to be more creative and think more independently.
Another player prefers "Fey"-like PCs that play by traditionally fairy myth rules and is contrary as fuck and... well I am still working on this one but they're a good player and its forcing me to be more creative on how npcs and villainous creatures interact with them. IM GETTING THERE.
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BUT THIS GUY. THIS FUCKING GUY.
He was a problem almost from session one. We went through two different character builds with him, he was hinting at wanting to change a THIRD time (which as a DM I'm fine with characters getting changed up, especially if their story comes to a natural end but not without reason).
His first character was a badly constructed Witcher self-insert character (Human Variant Mutagen Bloodhunter with a background that was VERY poorly constructed) that I dubbed Edgey Mc Edgerston.
I thought it was going to be fine because he was engaging and interested during session one. Almost LEADING the group. But as soon as he found out that the problem they were hunting in town wasn't a big gruesome monster to kill (smugglers and a druid controlling giant crabs to cover their smuggling activities) he shut down and stopped playing. And just... never really started playing again. He wouldn't talk to the other players. Wouldn't talk to NPCs. And when this first adventure came to an end and they were discussing continuing on the road together his first reaction was 'why should I? I dont really have a reason to'
The other players had to essentially beg him to join the adventuring party.
It was all downhill from there.
If any NPC tried to engage he brushed them off. He did the same with the other PCs. He was cruel to IMAGINARY ANIMALS.
Of course I checked in multiple times, tried to talk to him, tried to figure out what was wrong. He kept saying 'nothing, this is how my character is'
... fantastic.
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So after 6 sessions of this he came to me and said 'I want to change characters' and I jumped at the chance cause I really felt like ANYTHING could be better than this.
His second character, an old man wizard. (Human Variant Wizard Scribe Order)
I was so excited for a fresh start and a change that I willing homebrewed a special kind of familiar for him and allowed him to use a focus instead of components. And to have a wholeass tiny home vardo. Anything.
And again for a session or two things were good again. He seemed like a nice old man, they were traveling so there wasn't alot to engage with.
But it didn't last. Very quickly he started to treat the other players badly again. Started to treat NPCs even worse, right on the border of racist and bigoted towards any that wasn't explicitly human. Even started to treat the other non-human characters that way. He would complain about how much his old character would have liked something. He never even researched his class and wouldn't add spells to his spell list then complained about not having any way to get new spells but lo and behold, he treated every magic user they crossed as inferior and refused to pay for spellbooks or supplies or bother to go through treasure to find any wayward magic books.
And GODS FORBID anyone slighted him or played a joke on him or disagreed with him. He would turn into a sulky child and slowly he engaged less and less. Ignored story hooks. Ignored treasure clearly meant for him. Never spoke unless someone spoke to him. And when he did he was rude and just AN ASS.
He's fucking TOXIC.
I tried over and over to talk to him. He wouldn't respond. I tried to talk to the other players, they would just hem and haw. I tried everything. I developed entire side quests that would have led to massive wizard hordes and wizard pocket plane libraries.
And when I tried to ask about it in group so he couldn't escape answering he would just say 'my character doesn't like that npc', 'my character doesn't think that was a good idea so he's not going to do it'...
"My character doesn't care."
More than once the other players in and out of character had to AGAIN beg him to stay with the group. More than once.
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It was all getting to be too much. I wanted to quit. I wanted to stop DMing. I didn't want to deal with this guy anymore. I love this game. I love playing. I love DMing. I want to make a good game but it was making me miserable to a point that when I talked about it multiple people suggested I shut the campaign down.
It all came to a head a few weeks ago. I put on a really good session, even one that I for once in my life as a DM felt went really well and everyone seemed happy and excited. But as we were wrapping up my DMPC and another player made a joke about looking to a chocolate shop in the next town.
Old Wizard decided to try and make fun of the player and DMPC for wanting to have some fun. It devolved into a short in character fight right as the game had to end.
We had two weeks off and the other player told me he fully intended to confront Old Wizard about why he was there.
I honestly figured the fickle bastard was just going to quit after that. After all his threats. I so planned for this to be a long RP swan song session. I did try one last time to talk to him but he never replied. Left me on read.
We had two weeks off and I convinced myself so much he was going to quit that I didn't plan anything for the session.
Today the session rolls around. My other player has pumped himself up, is ready to go in hard. Confrontation is hard for him. Really hard. This was kinda a big deal.
He goes at Old Wizard and delivers a really well structured, calm and IN CHARACTER speech. I was proud of him!
Old Wizard just sighs and says, "I don't know why I'm here. I don't really care about any of you or what you do."
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I'm done.
Thats it.
So I LITERALLY do my best to bullshit a session, which I think I did okay, I got them to a pretty big time monster that I'm excited to use.
I go ahead and end the session a little early and I say, Old Wizard, hang out a second lemme talk to you.
So I just politely say, "Listen. Its not working out, I feel like I've tried so hard to figure things out and its just not working. So you need to think about finding a new table."
He started in trying to say that yeah he thinks maybe this isn't the best character and trying to give me the same song again about he acts this way because of this reason he acts that way because of that reason. A new character would be better-
"No. You aren't understanding. This isn't the first time we've been through this. Its not just this character. This campaign and party isn't a good fit for you."
He says oh well, I guess this story and these characters are a bit childish for me.
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Fuck you. Now you're trying to get a rise out of me, you pile of garbage.
I stay calm and polite and say, "Thank you for playing, too bad it wasn't a good fit. Good luck to you. But find a new table."
AND FUCKING GOD
I have not been this relieved in a long time.
For the first time in a LONG time I am actually really excited and looking forwards to playing in our next session.
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Very very long story short.
DON'T LET TOXIC PEOPLE RUIN THE THINGS YOU LOVE.
You have the power to get rid of them. DO IT.
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theduckislord · 3 years
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/rp
(Im just rambling here dont take anything i say too seriously)
So everyone's talking about whats gonna happen when Wilbur comes back and what he'll do but i personally think what other peoples reactions will be cause contrary to Tommy everyone has accepted Wilbur's death and most want him to stay dead. Wilbur walking around the server again will awaken so much trauma for so many people. There are some characters that i just have no idea what will happen tho so I'm gonna ramble. First is Fundy because his relationship with Wilbur is so complicated. Fundy, at least when it was Ghostbur, wanted to try to mend things with Wilbur but he also seems to hate him a lot. Fundy has also been through so much because of Wilbur. Their first interaction when Wilbur comes back will be interesting. Next is Eret. Eret im conflicted on because on one hand they know Wilbur did bad things and they know he went insane but on the other hand they look up to Wilbur and think he was a good leader so im excited to see what Eret thinks of Wilbur once he's back. Finally the eggpire, but i don't have much to say on them. The people infected by the egg didn't interact with L'manberg much and their thoughts on alivebur would change depending on what Wilbur thinks of the egg. Actually one more person i want to talk about is Niki. Niki's mental state has been declining and the one thing she knew for sure was Wilbur was dead. When she saw Ghostbur she literally blew up her house and tried to get rid of anything that reminded her of him. I have absolutely no idea what would happen if she saw Alivebur again but it won't be good. I might reblog this later with more characters but these are the ones i keep thinking about.
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Hi, I just found to your blog and I noticed you are a dream apologist but also like tommy, which is rare to see, and even tho I dont agree with alot of your posts about dream it's still interesting to hear other people's perspectives anyways the reason I bring up Tommy it was because I was wondering what you think dreams see Tommy as?
Like does he hate him ?does he like him ?does he see him as a toy a pet ? I'm very interested to see what your perspective is
absolutely! i am so happy to see someone who isn't a full-on dream apologist stumble upon my takes, hello there :] always refreshing to see different kinds of people around!
i actually know quite a,,, couple who also like c!tommy! dream apologists don't inherently hate him, they dislike a lot of his fans more than anything because of,, personal experience, let's say, but most of them are quite neutral or sympathize w/ the character!
i myself really do like the character from a writing perspective! i don't like him personally despite relating to him (ptsd go woooo) because of his quite insensitive and extroverted personality (not saying that's bad! he's flawed and that's very cool of him!) but he's a good protagonist for his own story, albeit a bit stuck in bad mindsets.
as for the disc duo,, man, i am so sad every time i think about the two. during season one i used to be such a discduo stan, like their interactions gave me life, dream reminded me of myself back when i was willing to reach out to people like tommy.
and then uhh,,, stuff happened, as we all know
but from the beginning, i do believe the two were very rivalsduo-like. they'd tease each other but in reality they really were friends even if they didn't admit it. before l'manberg, after l'manberg, it really didn't matter that much, even through the initial disc wars it really was just a way to fight each other but it was not all that serious. they were being immature over a couple of worthless items. they were hanging out. and then war and trauma and revolution came, and everything went downhill at a 90 degree incline.
their relationship had just,, such a twist for the worse and it freaking hurt because now i had to choose between the two and i for the love of god couldn't. everything light about them turned dark.
of course, this is c!dream's fault. the reasons he did what he did are debatable to being a product of the environment, the effect others had on him and the situations he was put into, but he absolutely wrecked it and he made it awful in every way.
the thing is, dream when interacting with tommy - much like tommy had often said about people like dream, wilbur and techno - makes him somewhat the worst version of himself.
and i'm not even making this up, the way he interacts with literally anyone else is so much different from how he acts in front of tommy.
and it's??? so strange?? green man you ok????
like, contrary to popular belief, c!dream doesn't like to see people suffer, or play with them, or making them hurt.
the only times when he says stuff like this is in front of tommy.
my theory for this is what i think is the most supported by actual canon - he's falling into the villain-hero narrative.
the fact that c!dream is not mentally healthy and has been shoved into terrible mindsets is evident especially from the finale stream, and i think the whole vault scene definitely leans towards my theory about this. he keeps going on about sidekicks and pawns and - not only is he treating everyone else as a game, he also does it to himself.
it's important to note his actions have always been both outwardly and inwardly destructive, many being unhealthy coping mechanisms.
what i think is, he's purposefully playing a role. i think this might sound like a stretch but... it really is not if you consider everything?
it makes sense; dream is trying to make tommy (and tubbo, by extension) terrified, to view him as a monster, something less than human, someone to fight, someone to defeat, to bring down. he's taking every opportunity to make himself out as someone totally cruel, while actually acting completely different with other people.
so, as to answer your question? that's what i think dream sees tommy as. i think he sees him as the hero; or rather, someone who wants to play the hero. he wants to challenge him, wants to get tommy to play his game because it's the only thing c!dream knows how to play anymore and he's,, secretly scared, because he's forgotten how to be anyone but a villain, and on top of that doesn't see any other way for himself to achieve his goals and get back what he cares about.
like, dream cares, that much is obvious. he cares about people. i don't think he hates tommy and i don't think he likes him. he says they're friends, and in some twisted sense, i think he means it, and he thinks tommy is simply in denial. he's wrong.
the way he acts makes me think that he genuinely considers him and tommy the same at their core, and that if the roles were switched, tommy would do the same as dream and dream would do the same as tommy. this is untrue, of course, but dream believes things like this because his worldview is utterly shattered, much like his mental stability. i think he thinks the only difference between them is their role in the story. i think he buys into the narrative to the point when he fails to see it's,, incorrect, about him, tommy - about everyone.
but that's just my opinion! sorry for rambling, c!dream is such an enigma sometimes, and although i claim a lot of things in good faith, there are some i don't usually touch upon because they genuinely confuse me. the way c!dream acts around c!tommy is one of them.
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Not only were we deprived of a great Sam/cas storyline bc of destiel but we also missed out on the cute friendship of Jared and Misha. I dont even like Misha but i could watch him and Jared take the piss out of each other at cons all day long lol
Exactlyyy!
You know, whenever these two are together, they seem so lighthearted. They joke with each other, make fun of each other, prank each other, and, like you said, I could watch them for a long, long time and laugh a lot while doing it.
But Destihellers created this whole narrative of "if Jared does A, it's a crime. But if Misha does A, it's a fun joke!" that is just so hypocritical. Misha can do basically anything and he's the fun guy, the sweetest baby. But if Jared does it, he's a monster, he had the worst possible intentions. The double standards annoy the hell out of me.
About Sam and Cass, it's just plain pathetic what they did with their relationship.
The thing is: I love Dean. He is my second favorite character. But he was never the best friend for Castiel.
Let me make things clear here: I don't think Castiel is a poor baby, an innocent angel. He made mistakes, big mistakes, and there were times in which Dean, and Sam, deserved to be furious with him.
But whenever Cass needed help, whenever he needed reassurance, he couldn't go to Dean.
Sam would always welcome him, though. Sam is the one that consistently treats Castiel well. Sam's is patient, he trusts and respects Castiel, he listens, he  comforts, and they could bond on so many things.
But they don't.
On the contrary, Castiel fluctuates between "nothing is worth losing you" and ha! Joke's on you, I don't care about Sam. I mean, he canonically stopped talking to Sam because he had a fight with Dean. He broke Sam's wall to stop Dean. He released Lucifer, after everything Sam sacrificed, and the had the balls to act like the Winchesters were also at fault. I could go on and on and on.
And this is, at least partly, because of Destiel. Or rather, because of destihellers. For them, Cass must be Dean's, Cass can't have other significant, long lasting relationships. Everything Cass does has to be about Dean.
And the writers were too afraid to go against that. I'll give them this: sometimes they tried. But they didn't commit to it: Meg died, Hannah left, then betrayed  Castiel, then died. Jack is probably the only exception for that, because, so far (and I just finished ep. 15x12) he is the only consistent, long lasting, significant relationship Castiel has that the show takes the time to develop on screen. Because, yes, the show tell us that Sam is one of Cass' best friends, but they don't actually develop that statement.
Not even Claire was safe from that, his vessel's daughter. Did they interact after S10? I'm middle of rewatching SPN and watching S12 to S15 for the first time, and I don't remember their interactions outside the two or three episodes Claire appeared in S10.
The other part is, of course, the writers' inconsistent characterization and the way they seemed lost with what to do with Cass sometimes. So, whenever they didn't know what to do, they stuck with this cycle: (1) Cass trust the wrong people -> (2) Cass makes a mistake (usually when he tries to fix things by himself) -> (3) Cass' self-confidence gets really low -> (4) Cass tries to make up for his previous mistakes -> go back to (1).
In short, anon, Castiel deserved better, Sam deserved better and Jared deserves so much better. And yes, destihellers are a very big reason for this.
Thanks for the ask and sorry it took me this long to answer it <3
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nightswithkookmin · 3 years
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Imo there is enough to support the possibility of a romantic relationship, but you are writing full on narratives with impossible specificity. You know what confirmation bias is but some young impressionable people dont yet . Forgive me but misleading with ' alt facts' can hurt someone even if you dont mean it. I think you are a good person not looking to hurt anyone. But the way you postulate without any evidence makes your actions a little but like those of a charlatan. Peace and kindness
All these kind words you spew...
It feels more like an advice than a question so I'm not sure how to respond to it...
Let me just say thank you? I never quite understood what the brouhaha was about with my posts but after talking to a few people, 'on the other side' lol and reading your Ask, I think I'm starting to get a better sense of what the problem is.
Something about young impressionable minds or people?
Let the council of elders know, those are not my audience please. I cater to a much more mature audience- at least so far. The people that I interact with and engage with on my posts on and off Tumblr are very mature and not impressionable at all.
They are People with brains who can tell an opinion from fact and can engage in deep complex controversial conversations without throwing up, shedding tears or cussing through to the heavens.
If there are 'impressionable people' reading my blogs- they do so at their own risk. If you know any such people or they run to you with my theories kindly point out to them it's just theory because that's what my opinions are.
I think the best thing you can do is to advice such people to grow up if they are going to sit at the adult table or not read my posts at all. I think you need to learn to hold the right people accountable for their actions.
The best I can do in this case- to hold myself accountable, is to put up a disclaimer on my posts to let people know what it is that they are reading- something I do quite often. But I will make conscious efforts to put up those disclaimers each time henceforth. Thank you.
That I write full on narratives with impossible specificity:
Is this Latin for, 'you write fiction get the fuck outta here?' Chilee.
I don't even know what you mean by this exactly so I may not be able to respond to it to your satisfaction. Bare with me.
So what if I write fiction? What is wrong with writing fiction? Do you hate fiction writers? I don't get what the hate is with these complaints honestly. Do you want me to put up a disclaimer stating my blogs are fiction? Would that help? I would glady do it.
If it helps you sleep at night think of my blogs as fiction- a rose by any other name. I've been keeping up with Shakespeare. Lol.
I don't think it's that deep. Listen, you gotta understand that just because we both 'ship' Jikook don't mean we are on the same team...
Most alt shippers I know and who read my posts and engage with it are not even Army to begin with, for your information. They could care less about these shipping politics of yours. Have you thought about that?
Some simply ship JK and JM and support them because they believe they are members of the LGBTQ plus community not because they are part of BTS.
There are different communities out there who are also into Jikook- for very different reasons. You gotta respect that.
To you, Jikook is just a ship within BTS that may or may not be real, but to some of us they have very much outgrown that description...
They are a brand of their own, a power couple and members of the LGBTQ plus community- Gay Icons extraordinaire. I think we take very different stock in Jikook. So stop trying to fit us all into one box.
It's disrespectful to try and control the way that people perceive their OTP and support them. Jikook don't just belong to Army Jokers, they belong to different communities outside Army. Are you aware of that?
And please don't confuse the intersect. I am an alt-shipper yes but I just so happen to be an Army too. But if I wasn't an Army, I'd still pretty much 'ship' and support Jikook- make no mistake. There are quite a few of us running around these streets, you know?
So you have every right to want to gatekeep your Army Jikook- but you have to do that without infringing on other rights of other 'Jikook communities.'
Throughout my blogs I have tried to shed light on what altshipping is because I thought it would help bridge the gap but clearly that hasn't worked. Sigh.
Misleading alt facts
Do you not know what it means or you are just being ironic?👀
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Why is it ok for you to believe and proclaim that JK and BigHit lied about JK dating the Tattoo artist but it's not ok for me to believe JK is telling the truth when he says he didn't date her and that BigHit saw an opportunity to kill two birds with one stone- hence why they didn't press charges against the shop for breach of privacy like they had said they were going to do. Instead, they had asked the shop to keep calm till the scandal died down on it's own?
You start your piece off with the whole, 'there is enough evidence to support a romantic relationship' between JK and the tattoo shop lady- I assume.
For context, this Ask by this anon is in response to my recent post/ answer on the tattoo girl scandal where the topic of discussion was on BigHit, JK and the tattoo artist and not Jikook perse.
A statement that is in direct conflict with JK's statement, BigHit's and the lady in questions, all denying that there was a romantic relationship between her and Jungkook- and somehow I am misleading who- who now with my theory??? Chileee.
Do you see the problem here? Double standards- the hallmark of bigotry. Lmho. You are literally doing the very thing you are accusing me of. Making confident assertions and claiming you know more about JK and the Lady's relationship and even have 'enough evidence' contrary to BigHit, JK and the Tattoo artist's statements denying the rumors- at least when I theorize I admit I'm being delusional. What's your excuse? When you say charlatan are you referring to yourself? You must be. Lmho.
Now I'm confident in my comprehension skills and intelligent enough to know when you make an assertion like this- it is your opinion and you are just stating your opinion. If you are not then honey you'd be opening yourself up to some serious litigation... goodluck I guess. Lol.
You are allowed to form an opinion about a topic. There is nothing wrong with that. If to you, JK and this person dated that is fine. I am not going to cyber bully you, stalk you, throw slurs at you, harrass you, dox you, slid into people's Dms to spread hate and lies about you just because I don't agree with your opinion. And for the record, I don't agree with your opinion. Hehehehe.
I have stated my opinion on the matter. I said I think JK and this person did hang out, go on dates but that there was no romantic sexual relationship between them because I believe that would have had much serious consequences and effects on Jikooks dynamics no matter how much they tried to keep a cool facade. Whoever felt cheated on would have acted more insecure than usual post the incident- how does this make me a charlatan? Are you saying it's wrong it have an opinion? Chileee.
Now if you can produce 'evidence' of them having sex or even kissing, then I will gladly change my mind on the topic and not sweat it.
Jikook have done way worse questionable things in 7 good years and people still don't believe they are dating. Jk hangs out with a female friend a few times in less than a month and suddenly he is dating her? Lmho.
You don't need me to tell you people are more eager to accept a heterosexual relationship than wrap their heads around the fact that two male idols are gay and in a gay relationship with eachother. Don't you just love it when homophobia meets heteronormativity and stinks? I do. Lol.
I mean this is a fandom that thinks JK is 'too touchy' and doesn't respect his boundaries- they practically swear JK is cheating on Jimin with every member any time he hugs, kisses, wings at within the group. You think they will be 'objective' about JK hanging out with a girl? Even if it happened once?
You said something about confirmation bias.... I will not touch it. Lmho.
This is not the first time JK has gone on a date with a girl. This is not the first time he has 'dated a girl', he has hand girls on his laps or whatever- what is a back hug? I think people need to stop defining Jikook's lives by their own standards. If a backhug is intimate to you. Thats you. If you think a grown ass man cannot hang out with a female friend, that's equally you.
You think if he thought it was inappropriate and risky he would do it 'in public?' Get with Kpop Idol dating culture. Lmho.
Do you know the lengths they go through to keep their relationships a secret? Especially non celebrity girlfriends? Chen from EXO got married and where is his wife? They keep their flings tighter than Trump keeps his toupee on his head. Lol.
They hide them not out of shame but out of love and the need to protect their loved ones. These idols have family members who have their restaurants and businesses shut down because they want to keep their privacy.
You think JungKook's girlfriend would- on her own, issue a statement regarding a scandal that Jungkook's agency had specifically directed her and her shop to keep quiet about and lay low till it blew away on its own? And later, started liking couple posts about her and JK? If they were dating, certainly JK would have dumped her after that move. In my opinion.
You think JK would let his fandom drag the person he is in a relationship with to the extent she loses her Job- when in his Itaewon gay pub scandal BigHit referred to the issue as his private affair immediately it happened? They could have kept the same energy with her, no?
They handled his gay pub scandal much better, with much respect and consideration for his privacy- if he dated her sorry but she mustn't have meant much to him at all. And if I were her I would have dumped him for that shit and not stay liking couple posts about us. Damn- But do you.
Taehyung was in a scandal with a girl too- did you see her liking posts and shit and going out of her way to do the most? Did you see how BigHit handled that scandal?
Nothing wrong if JK is 'dating' her or had 'dated' her and whatever person he decides he wants to be in a relationship with I will support him- that's why I support Jikook.
But your opinion is equally valid my guy. Just don't call me a charlatan for mine. You believe they dated, I believe they didn't- and to your impressionable young minds, I hope you are not selling them anything contrary to BigHit and JK's statement. That would be very irresponsible of you. Lol.
What else did you say?
Oh postulating without evidence...
Next time I write a theory based on my observations about Jikook, remind me to break off a piece of my brain and attach it to it- I guess that way people would finally understand when I say things like 'I think' 'in my opinion' 'I feel' 'I believe' that these are just my thoughts and opinions and not facts.
Let me leave you with this:
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Peace and kindness. Namaste.
Signed,
GOLDY.
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mrs-nate-humphrey · 3 years
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ok so we have seen over and over again people's assumptions about how gg main characters's instagrams would look like but how do you think their secret tumblr blogs would be? 👀
hmm! i just went over tumblr in general, because i don’t think all of them would have ‘secret’ tumblrs per say? everyone’s thing under the cut, cause it got SO long. i did not mention chuck because i don’t rlly see chuck as having a tumblr in any universe tbh - i feel like he would think it takes away from his businessy vibe or something.
dan's main would be something with a ts eliot url, like, a snippet from one of his poems, or it would be a whitman url, a snippet from a poem again (i see him with a whitman url of some kind & maybe his blog title is an eliot reference.) dan would 100% have the whole dark academia thing going in some ways, i think his blog would be organised as a grid, and he would reblog pictures of libraries, museums, occasionally of art, and also, quotes. so many quotes. so much literature. if you've been on tumblr long enough you know exactly the kind of blog i'm talking about.
dan's tumblr sideblog, on the contrary, would have nothing to link it to him. it'd probably be the tumblr default theme, pastel colours or something... i feel like dan is the specific genre of trans kid who uses a different set of pronouns online for anonymity purposes and then goes "wait a minute i like these pronouns BETTER". his url would be something extremely mundane and random like coffeeaddict779 or something, and it would be all #vent and #dont reblog. nobody who's following his sideblog knows what his main is, and vice versa.
serena would i think have one of those "be kind, do no harm :)" kind of hipster tumblr blogs, except she's incredibly sincere. she wouldn't have a sideblog, i don't think? and i don't think she'd attach her name to it in any way, probably just pronouns in bio and maybe a 'call me S'. she and dan would be mutuals on dan's main! her blog will be very, uh. aesthetic pictures, reblogs of dolphin videos and music and WIP art videos and anything else that'll catch her eye. she'll tag blair in fashion vids, nate in sailing posts, dan in literary stuff, and vanessa in film related/photography related things. she's having fun! every now and then she'll post a vent post but it's extremely vague and it's either something everyone who knows her irl already knows about her ('i hate my mom so much') or something that says practically nothing ('i am so worried about my brother and wish i could do more to help him.')
jenny's fashion inspo blog!!!! what more do you want me to say. she'd make it big in the fashion community and get anons all the time and she'd probably also have an etsy where she sells things she's sewn and made. everyone sort of knows she's an up and coming designer and she'd find a good community online hopefully!!! her blog would be something simple, with a url like jennydesigns or something (i bet that's taken rn, i havent checked) and her theme would be one of those themes that allows for u to have big images. she would probably post vents in the same way serena does, tag them #personal or #rambles, and have that neat code that allows for the tag to be filtered out whenever anyone views her page on desktop, you know?
i think eric would not have anything specific that he posts. he would just reblog random things - memes, things he finds interesting, jenny's original posts, stuff serena tags him in, cat videos, lgbtq+ positivity, etc. he'd try and stay out of drama (i think he'd turn anon off eventually.) he’d also post a lot of music reblogs or links, i feel?
vanessa's main blog would be one where she posts her own photos and films. because she's professional about it, it'd probably just be @ vanessaabrams. she'd have a sideblog specifically for reblogging other people’s work because she wants to support other artists, and it would be vanessareblogs or something like that, and her bio would mention “main tumblr @ vanessaabrams”. she’d be much adored in the photo/film community and just in general, because she’s one of the few people who hypes up other creators all the time and leaves nice comments in tags and all that. every now and then serena reblogs vanessa’s photography onto her blog and it almost always blows up, but vanessa doesn’t mind. i don’t think vanessa would have a vent blog or even a personal tag, she gives me big ‘i wanna keep my business totally off the net’ kind of vibes.
nate’s blog would be a lot like serena’s except, uh, more openly wanderlusty i think. a LOT of ocean reblogs. every now and then he reblogs keroauc quotes from dan which the girls find extremely hilarious. he talks a lot about sailing and gets a lot of sailing anons. he’d reblog a lot of positivity (mostly because he knows his friends are following him and he wants to brighten up their dash.) dan and vanessa jokingly dm him weed aesthetic posts all the time, but every time they do he reblogs and tags it ‘sent to me’ or somehting like that, and they cant decide whether to be flattered or embarrased. i think nate would also attract a lot of anons who ask for advice and it is something he never expected people coming to him for, but he definitely listens and shares whatever he’s got to say all the same. he’s this blog who should be weirdly niche but everyone sort of knows him and likes him.
saving the best for the last, lol. i have SO many thoughts about blair’s tumblrs. 
i think she’d have a main tumblr that’s solely for classic film stuff (audrey! and more) and that’d be @ blairwaldorf, because, well, duh. i think she’d pay for a tumblr theme and get one of those really fancy and cute ones, like a floralcodes ms paint theme. i think she’d also have a sideblog that’s less serious, where she’d reblog things from tv shows, reblog things serena or nate have tagged her in, write her own meta for fandoms she’s in, just generally be a multifandom mess with a #personal tag but nothing too personal. it would still be classy, because she’s blair, but on this blog, she’s just a girl having fun.
and then she’d have a THIRD blog, a sideblog that doubles up as a vent blog. and this one isn’t linked to her other two in an obvious way, nobody knows it’s her, etc. on here she’d probably post a lot about her ed (but i think in a  ‘i am struggling and i want to bitch’ way, not in a thinspo way - that’s a whole conversation i have no spoons for, so let’s not go there), she’d post about her insecurities and worries but it would be extremely untraceable. she’d have a fancy theme on this one too, despite it being a vent blog. 
hm. now im thinking of the potential of like. dan and blair interacting super frequently on their vent blogs and neither of them knowing it’s the other person!
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letusmeetagain · 3 years
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First i wanna say i really like all your analysis and theories because you put so much effort into them and im really gratful we have someone like you who like i said again have wonderful theories that make so much sense so please i have a question for you regarding a certain well...very dragged topic so if you wouldnt like to awswer i will totally understand it just i wanted to hear YOUR opinion because i really do appreciate your analysis of snk anyway my question is regarding erehisu...not i dislike it but its just im so tired can isayama make em or eh canon already so this clownery end...BUT i really do believe eremika will be the endgame because of all the proof that we have in the manga but people tend to make it as if its a crack ship ugh...what do you think hisu's final role will be? What do you think eren awswered her? Though i dont believe hisu's question meant any romantic undertones what do you make out of her question to eren?
Hi anon!!
Thank you for your kind words T.T
Well... the question focuses on my opinion on which ship has more chances to become canon, right?
I’ve spent some time thinking about my answer to this question, how I could go direct to the point while giving enough arguments to defend my opinion. Prepare yourself because I couldn’t and this will be very long. Sorry...
1. Eren’s characterization + romance
First of all, there is a very important point about Eren that shipers (even me sometimes) forget. A friend that loves and understand Eren the most pointed this many times when I was starting to forget about it... I dare to say that nobody surpasses her understanding of his characterization.
Eren isn’t a romantic person. We all have to keep in mind that his priorities aren’t the priorities a normal person would have. He is like Rick from Casablanca. There’s the duty and then dreams and then, maybe, romantic love (If we take for granted that he knows what it is). Erwin loved Marie but he had a priority. (There’s me finding more similarities between Erwin and Eren). Eren’s current development is more about his mission than a romantic one. Although he plays with romance, he does it while being blatantly blind about it.
Eren got caught in the middle of his normal development from a child that gets annoyed by romance and has some kind of allergy against cheesy moments (for ex. in ch. 3 with Franz and Hannah) to a teenager that blooms to feel romantic love as something important and unavoidable. It’s normal for kids. But Eren hasn’t a normal life. There was always something more important than learning how to love, be loved and express it openly. It’s not that he isn’t able to love, more likely the opposite. He knows how to love and he has his own ways to do it... but the way the world is restricted his possibilities to live a different life. Even in the way EMA never got to communicate properly most of the times. Communication runs sometimes as a question, a statement and no back question (for ex. ch. 3). Eren asked about Mikasa’s reasons to follow him, about Armin’s reasons, where he threw that line about his death being meaningless. Nobody said anything, neither Mikasa nor Eren reacted stating the opposite. They usually don’t have the time nor oportunity to talk or even think about essential topics as feelings of love or labeling their feelings.
Given Eren’s lack of experience and maturity that we could see until Marley arc. Is it even possible that he developed a carnal relationship with Historia before going to Marley? No. No, because it would contradict somehow his characterization. Eren is depicted exactly as someone that took this decision because he lost every single deep bond that would have stopped him. This lack of understanding brought him to this point. The lack of value he places on life and a comfortable life with friends and family.
2. The baby
The whole baby plot point is from my perspective just about the curse and a new generation (maybe) free from being SoY but just normal human beings.
Historia choosing this way was also the safest way to oppose her destiny... strategically speaking. She could trick everyone without being called openly a traitor. So I’m agree with you. Her question wasn’t romantic.
3. The father and his meaning
The father is, as I pointed out once in my Twitter acc., the farmer. My reasons are that there is a meaning behind his existence. He was a boy that dared Historia to break the rules and stop being submissive. He is aligned with Historia’s current role as someone who stopped being the good girl that follows stupid and detrimental rules in disregard of her own life. He is also a man that decided to redeem himself by helping her with the orphanage without trying to get her attention at all. Being a normal person who enjoys a normal life and also redemption. I’m not saying necessarily that it’s about love, but he isn’t just a nobody. He holds a deep, positive meaning for the story. Isayama pairs usually a sinner and an “innocent”: Annie and Armin, Eren and Mikasa, Erwin and Levi, Ymir and Krista, Historia and the Farmer. Eren and Historia are the current sinners on the matter that both chose the rumbling... let’s say.
Why this kind of pairing? Because one has to contribute to the improvement of the other. Two sinners (with the same crime and perspective) can’t help each other. It’s opposition what will bring them to overcome their weaknesses.
4. Development of the couples
That being said, Eren and Mikasa as pair are in the focus. Isayama went through 10 years of development of most of the pairs to build up a support for EreMika. He build parallels with YumiHisu and Falbi and gave us hints to understand EM better. The vow he made to her was probably one of those moments when he started to be romantic without noticing.
5. Eren and Historia: their moments
EH interactions are, conversely, of other nature. Both feel related about the point of carrying a big burden. While Eren has to save humanity fighting, Historia has the role of a founder who has to assure humanity’s survival by having children and keeping the royal family alive. Both want to be free from that burden and end up being “partners in crime” by betraying everyone. I’m missing the romantic interactions to be very honest. It’s because Eren is so self-focused that he anchors here when someone who is alone and having the same problems and feelings appears. But... where did the fandom start to see something between them?
Two moments. The moment when he said “she is admirable” and the moment when he insisted to spare her life. That obsession that is so tricky to even be explained.
The first one made a difference between how Eren acknowledges Historia’s attributes and disregards Mikasa’s. The fandom uses this to point out that Eren likes Historia more. Well, no. His relationship towards Mikasa was characterized by jealousy. He won’t admit anything.
Regarding his “obsession” to save her... this started when he knew the existence of Eren Krüger, his thoughts and the whole story about Dina. It wasn’t before that. We must also admit that Historia’s safety was related to more characters than just Eren. Since the very beginning, her safety was conveniently displayed by Frieda, Ymir and Reiner, what makes me believe that her destiny was to give birth to this baby (aka. plot armor). Her role is to avoid becoming a titan by her own choice, that’s her arc. With Krüger we also knew the importance of a royal: they can give birth to more convenient instruments for war. Knowing that he was devoted to the mission, I believe that Eren is being influenced by him (I want to highlight the word “influenced” as something different to manipulated). So this is all related to the mission and the final outcome about Ymir, the curse, the power and the baby. Eren partly wants to grant her the chance to choose, but he also pushes her to do so based on part of her desires because of the mission as he did with Grisha.
Add here the fact that Historia was prepared to sacrifice his life at the cave if it was needed. That shows her priorities.
A lot of EH shippers claim that she saved him. Regarding her role as savior, I’m more objective and skeptical. She spared his life, but emotionally speaking, she didn’t really save him. The proof is that he was still low, thinking that he was a nobody. Carla’s words were the message with enough impact to relieve him and make him open himself to Armin and Mikasa and tell them about his sorrows. This shows the difference on the impact on him when it comes to Historia and when it comes to Carla... this happens again in ch. 131. He thinks about his mother instead of Historia who was the one reproving his plan. To me, Historia is his friend and inspired him to fight just for his sake against the system and rebel those who are over him and oppressing him. But his soft side is related to Carla, Armin and Mikasa: his family and those, who appreciate his life over his fate and urge of freedom and to be acknowledged.
Bonus: when Eren told Historia that she saved him was more like “You chose this path once and I’m sorry. I’ll be starting the rumbling and you contributed”. Historia’s face to that looks like this: “Oh no...I fucked up”. It doesn’t look like “Oh no... I don’t regret saving you because I love you and I can’t live without you”. On the contrary, that’s when she realizes that she was part of this since the beginning and that by saving him, she chose to let the rumbling happen once in the past. Then she goes along with the plan for her own reasons and because she hasn’t better options to choose either.
Summary:
Eren didn’t develop as a romantic person yet nor prioritized romantic love over his mission. It goes against a previous explicit development of EH before the trip to Marley. The farmer has a positive meaning as the father. EM is more developed and shows romantic undertones and common tropes. EH hasn’t romantic undertones and it’s more related to the mission to save the eldians.
So... that was it. Sorry again for the length and thank you for the ask!
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