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destiel-wings · 1 year
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Thinking about how everyone always blamed Cas for his choices during the show, but his choices, as dumb or naive or reckless as they were... were the only REAL choices (out of Chuck's control). Cas was learning to excerpt his free will, like a baby learning to walk, and sometimes his choices were stupid, but that's what happens when growing up, you make mistakes and you stumble before you can learn.
And so I'm thinking about how they all made stupid decisions during the years but Cas was always the one blamed for his (more than them). Could this be because the brothers' decisions were actually Chuck's, so he wouldn't let them blame themselves for them, but he would always take the chance to use them to blame Cas for HIS because Cas' choices were out of his control and it was an indirect way to discourage it??? Having Dean excessively blame Cas, so that Cas would feel guilty and stay put.
But Cas kept going every time, following his heart as he kept choosing, he really was the key to defeat Chuck, the crack in Chuck's narrative, and it was his love for Dean that made him crack I CAN'T--
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spn2006 · 4 months
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the fact that eric kripke isn't even christian really adds something to the way christianity is depicted on supernatural. because its really not about being christian at all, but about living in america, a country dominated by christianity, and having to decide for yourself how to handle that. faith is huge in supernatural, and the mythology of the show is very bible-centric, but notably, christ is never there. even sam, who starts out revering the angels, who once said he prays every night, doesn't actually call himself a christian or imply that he believes in jesus--the show is steeped in christianity and biblical lore and yet neither sam nor dean are christians. in fact, over and over again the church itself is depicted as a haunted house that sam and dean will only ever enter as strangers, as outsiders. priests, preachers, faith healers, chapels, crypts, etc. are all just iconography that create an intense sense of unease that sam and dean respond to instantly. as a jew, its very relatable. an essential part of living in america when you're not christian is that exact sense of unease, of knowing that the culture of your country has ensured that you'll get knocked over by christianity no matter where you go, that you'll see hundreds of people truly believing they're good people while doing awful things in the name of their god, and you have no choice but to confront that. kripke gets it
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Ok so. "Why does this sound like a goodbye?" Was fucking heartbreaking, right; we have the full-on uninterrupted eye contact, the head tilt, Dean's already open mouth twitching before the scene cuts to Cas' "I love you," like he had more to say, but Cas beats him to the punch. It's great, we love that. But for the dialogue to be sequenced that way, and to have Dean reply with, "don't do this, Cas."
I'm only just realizing how fucking insane it was. And sure, I might just be coping here, at the end of the day who fucking knows, but look at it. Think about it. Now let yourself feel it all over again.
It's Dean's death knocking on the door behind Cas, and it's Cas' death emerging behind Dean. Like this, they're directly facing their own demise—but they're too stuck on each other, in their moment, to give a damn. And then Dean doesn't say, "I love you too." He says, "don't do this."
He isn't disgusted or ashamed or put off in the slightest by Cas' confession, because if he is then why is he on the verge of tears? In what world would it make sense for him to want to cry after his best friend confessed to him, if the confession was something he did not want. He says don't do this here, don't do this to me now.
Even if, and that's the most unlikely if to ever exist, Dean did not reciprocate Cas' feelings—don't do this is still so fucking powerful. Because Dean's connected the dots, happiness [...] is in just saying it, and Cas said it, so where does that lead Dean? That's right, with Cas dead again, trying to save him again.
Don't do this. Don't die for me, don't love me only to die for me, don't love me at all, just stay with me.
Don't let me watch you die again and not even let me follow you—because, at the very least, that was a consolation. She's gonna kill you, which Dean knows that Billie knows will hurt him more than his own death, and then she's gonna kill me.
"Don't do this," was actually so fucking powerful, I don't know how it slipped past me until now...
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ananke-xiii · 3 months
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So... I don't think I'm feeling well...
I was rewatching spn 4x16 "On The Head of a Pin" as one does and...
Alastair tried to kill Cas by impaling him on... a rebar!
It can't be real, this show is soooo cruel... I won't post nor mention a certain death that happens during 15x20 because in my universe it didn't happen...
But I am flabbergasted.
Also, are we supposed to make the correlation "angel on the head of a pin" with "angel impaled on a rebar"? 'Cause my mind just did and now I'm forever changed.
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xxc0reyxx · 1 month
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dean and cas have abandonment issues but they deal with them in such different ways.
dean is terrified of being unloveable and of people leaving him, so he pushes them away before they can leave. because in his head, everyone leaves in the end, so why bother let them get close? he’ll just end up heartbroken in the end because that’s all he’s know, from his own family, his friends, partners, allies. they either end up dead or gone.
cas, on the other hand, is terrified of being useless because he had been created as a tool, a weapon for others to use, and was treated as one his whole life. every time he thinks he isn’t useful anymore he leaves because why would anyone want a broken tool? people always end up leaving when he doesn’t have power, or they make him leave with little to no explanation.
dean needs someone to stay when he’s pushing them away, to be reassured that even when he is at his worst they still love him and want to be around him.
cas needs someone to tell him to stay when he’s no longer useful. if he is asked to leave he will, because he is never allowed to stay for long and sees so little of himself.
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rosedark88 · 9 days
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Misha doesn’t seem to mind, and Jensen is overjoyed 😂😂Love them❤️
cutest friendship ❤️
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soullessjack · 8 months
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another tally on the “things about jack that have been almost erased by the baby au” is how genuinely fucked up and weird and scary and violent and horrifying he is. the body horror of his existence is so. Palpable.
he looks human, but he still fundamentally is not human, and the thing that separates him from being human or belonging or being normal and loved and accepted without strings attached is his own bloodline. his own family, his own father. the blood that runs through his veins is the blood of the devil and he wasn’t fed it like Sam. the anger and rage and capacity for violence inside him isn’t an ancient curse like it was for Dean. It’s just who he is. It’s his neurology. Jack enters a guilt/grief-induced psychosis so bad he starts hallucinating his own dead evil father who proceeds to say “I’m in your head, your DNA,” and goes on about how Jack’s place with the only chosen family he ever cared for is that of their little pet monster who’s only kept around to kill things for them. And this is his subconscious, remember, these are all Jack’s own thoughts being given a hallucinatory voice.
When jack is first born he doesn’t even register that he’s not a full human. It’s not until he catches dean telling the sheriff that he’s a Nephil and gets stabbed all the way through his entire heart to the hilt of the angel blade and survives, that he realizes he’s Not Normal. Jack stabs himself 18 times with “grim determination,” dedicated to making a wound stay open in his body, but nothing happens. He doesn’t know what any of this is, but he knows it’s dangerous and he’s seen firsthand what he can do, because he sent the sheriff careening backwards into glass when he didn’t mean to do anything more than push her away. He tells Dean he will hurt someone again [whether he means to or not]. And he tells Sam, using his powers is like breathing; it’s a subconscious, physical, neurological part of his system that he cannot (currently) consciously control or stop.
He’s literally a living weapon. These powers of his that hurt people are akin to breathing. His violence and his evil is deep seated and runs through his heart and bleeds out of him. But he can’t bleed the evil out. He can’t escape what he was born into or what keeps him alive. He can’t even live without this nuclear power that ostensibly others him from everyone forever. He’s foaming at the mouth and seizing and fainting and bleeding and going into total systemic failure and subsequently dying as a human because he just isn’t human and he can’t live as one even if he wants to, even if that is a part of him it still isn’t the only part of him. The other half that makes him untrustworthy and violent and angry and dangerous and nuclear and evil and feared and hated is the one part he is left dying without.
His body dies a first time because it couldn’t live without its own hereditary disease, he died as a human and goes to human heaven and sees and rekindles with his human mother, the part of him that he wants to be and loves but can’t exist as. He’s brought back but now he’s a time bomb, a nuclear reactor internally melting down. he’s a weapon, but he’s alive because he was born as a weapon, and neither of these things were his choice.
and then a second time his body dies because he was only registered as a threat with no humanity. his eyes are burned out of his skull and instead of heaven with his mother, instead of humanity, he wakes up in the pitch black abyss where other nonhumans go when they die, then he’s brought back and he’s a weapon for the third time. He’s a living bomb, a collapsing black hole, and he has to eat human hearts ripped straight from the chest to keep his bomb body alive and ready for detonation, ready for collapse. He’s so far from human, further than he ever wanted to be, further enough to make his deep rooted fear a reality that he’s too suicidal to bother rebuking. Why rebuke the truth? The absolute truth that the devil, the evil of all things is in his blood and he is evil and he was a born weapon whose body exists to destroy and kill and not even his own love or will can stop it.
He is a gun that doesn’t want to be a gun and hates that his body is made to shoot and kill, but he has no choice in being anything else but a gun. He cannot ever be good, he was never good to begin with, he was just malfunctioning, glitching, experiencing an error and virus and flaw that he wishes was his entire programming. His eyes glow yellow like the corrupted Star Wars Sith and Rosemary’s Baby and a whole slew of evil things that are evil and meant to be rejected. When he gets angry, people stare at him as if he’s a cornered animal, because that’s what he is to them. To both sides of the equation, he is an animal. A foreign creature, a thing, he’s not human enough to be human and he’s not angelic enough to be an Angel. He’s some weird mixture that nobody can understand or accept. He’s unpredictable and violent and wild and born that way and only in his subsequent domestication, only in the extension of personhood and humanity can he be deemed worth loving. He’s like a dog, detrimentally loyal, old yeller going rabid while saving his family and having to be shot in an act of mercy. Barking and biting at people who might hurt his loved ones and killing them as an act of love. Sam wanted Nick to burn so Jack burns Nick and that’s why Jack says they would be grateful. He did what Sam wanted. Same for the other biblical killings. He’s the cat sinking its fangs into rodents and birds. Leaving the punctured corpses on the doormat as a gift, I did this for you because I love you, don’t you love me too?
I haven’t eaten well in the past two days does this click click anyone’s boom. Saliva
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deansbreastmilk · 1 month
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the only reason that I think Cas knows Dean better than Sam isn’t because he’s closer to Cas, but because of circumstance.
it’s always been protect Sammy, protect Sammy, protect Sammy! for Dean. and sometimes protecting Sammy means keeping him in the dark about stuff. there’s most definitely facets of Dean’s true blue self that Sam never hears about or doesn’t hear about until it’s old news. Dean raised Sam. there’s stuff about your mom that you never understand completely or never even learn about, know matter how close you are. no matter how bad you love them. period.
Cas dove into hell and witnessed the atrocities Dean’s soul committed as they were happening. he held Dean’s consciousness and soul in his palms. he built Dean back up cell by cell. he knew every scar pattern and how many freckles that were on his shoulders and the width of the tiny wrinkles of his bottom lip. he knows things about Dean that Dean would never willingly tell anyone because he was there to catch the fleeting memories and shove them back into Dean’s skin as they tried to escape.
Sam is a Dean devotee, a Dean scholar. Cas is a Dean architect.
just because Sam doesn’t have the full blueprint of Dean’s body and soul doesn’t mean he’s not loved by Dean as much or more so than Cas. in fact, I think Sam’s ignorance of some things makes him more lovable in Dean’s eyes and the fact that Cas is ignorant of nothing makes Dean scared of his love for him.
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gracelyns · 4 months
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your dad disappears when you're a kid and you find out he's leaving cause an angel kidnapped him and is using his body. because of this your mom goes mad and leaves too. weren't angels supposed to be guardians? your daddy taught you that. you don't ever hear from your dad anymore, some postcards from your mom. your grandparents die and you're alone in the foster care system. several years later, you see your dad again. he's aged and he looks fine, but actually he's dead, the angel killed him and is still using his body. the only people you thought you could call family sell you out, and are murdered in cold blood by the angel's killing machine friend. you find your mom. she'd been a prisoner for two years and another angel had been feeding on her soul. she immediately sacrifices herself for you. the next day you forgive him (he still looks like your dad) and he and his friends offer to help you. they make sure you have a house and a nice woman to take care of you. he took away your family. but he also gave you a new one. you're happy now. you can't help but start loving him too. how can you love the one that ruined your life, without thinking about it once? he's changed now, he's a totally different person. but he still looks like your dad. i wonder: how much of claire's love for cas is just love for her father, placed in the next best thing?
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nottobehornyonthemain · 5 months
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Do not get me wrong. I love very soft, very domestic, very human 15x20 Didn’t Happen post-canon Destiel, but I have not seen enough people exploring the absolute goldmine that is post-The Winchesters Destiel.
Like, on one side you have an actual, fully powered, several times resurrected, once fallen, Angel of the Lord who had a problem with God so colossal that he actively worked to fire God and have him replaced by said angel’s son.
On the other you have the incarnation of free will, a human who transcended the line of what it means to be human so far that the labels of “alive” or “dead” are pretty much meaningless, who travels through time and the multiverse in his ghost car, who defies the direct orders of God because there’s literally nothing you can do to punish him, he personally knows the Queen of Hell and she’s pretty fond of him, his brother is still alive and wandering around so even sending him back to earth wouldn’t do much, and, oh yeah, God is his stepson.
Like… they are straight up immortals more powerful than most gods and on decent terms with most of the other controlling forces of the universe.
And also they’re in love.
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destiel-wings · 7 months
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Dean Winchester & hug dynamic analysis
I was thinking about how whenever Dean hugs someone he's almost always the one hugging the other and how this links to his psychological trauma of always being the caretaker of people, making himself bigger to protect them.
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Because that's how Dean sees himself, as a shield for others, and then I thought about how Cas actually is the shield, and he's HIS SHIELD, specifically, the only one who's really there to protect HIM, which is why it hits so much when we see this:
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The way Cas wraps his arms around him, trying to protect him with his whole body--that he'd use as a shield and give up in a second if he could spare him from any pain and save him.
(for context: Dean was about to go use the soul bomb on Amara there, it was a suicide mission)
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Bobby is another one that hits, he hugs him as the big hugger because he's his father, he loves him and he's actually here to protect him (and Dean LETS him -barely, but he lets him *and Cas* - in a way that he doesn't let Sam)
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I watched a compilation of Sam & Dean hugs to check if i was right about it, but it's almost always Dean the big hugger with Sam, except when he's about to die or Sam sees him alive again after losing him.
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Even then, Dean mostly tries to hug Sam as the big hugger anyway, with at least one arm, like a way to comfort him, making him feel protected, like his body language is saying "I'm here, I'm okay, I'm still strong, i can still protect you" (because their real father failed and Dean thinks it's his job).
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He rarely lets himself be the little one hugged with Sam, unless he's barely conscious. Which is why it kills me so much more now that in this moment (s14, when Dean was going to lock himself in the Ma'lak box cause he was possessed by Michael) and Sam has a desperate breakdown and punches him (to stop him) he forcefully hugs him as the little hugger, the way Dean always kept him, like a way of saying "I still need you to protect me, please don't do this to yourself".
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In the scene below he gives Sam his blessing to do a dangerous (possibly suicidal) mission, and one of his arms is down, but the other one tries to stay up--he's forcing himself to do it and he struggles because he still wants to protect him, but (as the seasons progress) he slowly becomes more prone to let go.
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So in this view the hug dynamic becomes an indicator of how Dean sees Sam (and himself) and his protector role, how adult and self sufficient he considers Sam, and how much he lets people around him take care of him, lowering his walls and letting himself be hugged.
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This is also why i think hugs from characters like Garth or Charlie are so special, because they're just like us: they see Dean and they just know that he needs to be hugged a lot, and that he's not used to it, so they just go for it-- and it's so normal and kind and spontaneous that Dean's just not used to it-- he doesn't know how to respond (especially with Garth, at the beginning, but as the seasons progress, he learns to, and he even initiates the hug eventually).
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I love the hugs where they're 50/50 (one arm up, one arm down both), feels like they're equals, both taking care of each other. I feel like with Sam and Dean, this indicates a healthier dynamic, because Dean lets go a little of the role that was imposed to him and manages to see Sam as the strong individual that he is. But the same applies to 50/50 hugs with other characters, like with Cas, where I feel like it testifies how equals they feel in terms of being fighters, there's a show of respect of each other's strength that transpires by the gesture (which is even more astounding considering that Cas is literally a powerful angel).
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And just to end on a destiel note, I'd like to note the possessiveness and protectiveness of Dean (rightfully so) whenever he finds Cas after he thought he had lost him, and how that translates into his body/hug language:
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wrenwinchester · 2 months
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Bear with me here. Because I have. Some thoughts.
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First things first, visit here for another in depth analysis of the table carvings that doesn’t really have anything to do with my commentary, but I found it while looking for the picture for the table and liked their analysis. So….
Anyway, the table. We watch as Sam and Dean carve their own initials, and we know Mary’s initials get added after her death in season 14. That’s all fine and dandy. And we know Cas and Jack’s names get added sometime after Cas’s death, and presumably after Jack leaves, but we don’t really know when, or even by who. We also don’t really know who carved Mary’s initials, not really.
However, we see Sam and Dean’s different styles of carving into things twice. (Sorry about the gore it was the cleanest picture I could find of the car initials completely.)
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Now, neither of the boys are identical, however, we can see a distinct difference between Sam and Dean’s style. Dean carves deep, so it will stay a long time, despite wear and tear. Sam however carves wide. He carves out his initials instead of making a hole. It’s much more surface level, almost as if he’s scared of getting in trouble and wants it to be easier to get rid of. But that’s something we can get into later.
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When they add Mary’s initials there are a couple things that tip us off that it was Dean who actually carved them in, A) they’re from that direction, which is the side/seat Dean almost always sits in when both brothers are up and about. And B) it has that same depth to it as his initials, and the same style of how the lives meet. Therefore Dean carved Mary’s initials.
However, this brings us back to Jack and Cas.
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Both Cas and Jack’s names have that same width over depth, more surface level carving as Sam’s initials. Especially when compared to Dean and Mary’s. The S in Castiel has very similar strokes to the S for Sam’s initials, and the A’s and C’s in their names are similar if not the same (or as same as they can be considering they were carved into wood and sometimes the grain of the wood disrupts flow a little bit).
This, to me, means that Sam was the one to carve Castiel and Jack’s names into the table. And I’d even bet, that he didn’t do it until after Dean died.
Now I could be wrong about this last part, but if I’m remembering correctly, we don’t see all five names/initials until after Dean’s death. While Sam is sitting at the table (notably in Dean’s spot, and wearing dean’s sweatshirt.) with Miracle, so it’s plausible, and even probable.
And I’d bet he did it when he decided he couldn’t live in the bunker anymore without Dean because every little thing reminded him of his brother. And I’ll bet he did it because they are a part of his family and they deserved to be remembered too.
Castiel, the angel of Thursday, the angel who betrayed heaven for the sake of humanity. Who chose over and over again to take the Winchester’s side over any other supernatural being because he trusted their sense of right versus wrong. Castiel, one of the Winchester’s only friends who stuck around, who made sure that they took care of themselves, and made sure to save them while they were saving the world. Castiel, the Winchester’s best friend.
And Jack, their kid. Sure, he was the spawn of Lucifer, but he was Castiel’s kid. He was Sam’s kid, and he was Dean’s kid. (I’ll get to a rant about Dean and Jack’s relationship at a different point because I have thoughts.) Jack saved the world, and he turned out good because of Castiel, because of Sam, and because of Dean. Jack took the mantle of God to protect the world, so he could protect his family, and keep the angels from interfering with human affairs.
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See, it's the cinematic choices like these that convince me destiel wasn't an accident or something added last minute, it had build up and it was sprinkled all over the narrative.
It's Dean grieving so much, in a way he never grieved for familial figures like Bobby or John—there is enough pain inside him that it shattered his belief that what he and Sam did was right, as hunters protecting the common folk. When, in times of multiple Armageddon-level crises and then some, that belief is what held him together. Because hey, we may have lost people (so, so, so many people) but at least it was for the greater good.
None of that, absolutely none of that, because this loss made him feel that the job wasn't worth it anymore. This was where he drew the line.
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It's Dean, literally gaining back that light in his life when Castiel called.
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And, at the end of the episode, there are slow, dramatic close-ups between Dean and Castiel. Because Sam's grief wasn't the same as Dean's, so Sam's relief at finally having Cas again is different from Dean's.
This moment belongs to them. To Dean, who's finally finding his faith again.
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youchangedmedestiel · 3 months
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lost-and-cursed · 2 months
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Some amazing analysis of themes in supernatural, how finale has broken them and how it could have been fixed
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rosedark88 · 7 days
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Another angle, Jensen looks like he wanted to make sure he hit the target 😂
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