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artisan-king-morleus · 8 months

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SIGMA IS KAFKA ASAGIRI

random theory/thought that turned into a rabbit hole, plz read

Not sure if this will get seen and I'm hella sleep deprived rn but a thought occured.

BSD man...

As of rn we don't know who Sigma is or what exactly he is. New official art, as I've seen, has some already guessing his origins and which author he's based off of.

But I have a dumb lil thought/theory.

He's born from "The Book" INSIDE bsd. So what if...

Sigma is Kafka Asagiri?

Why? Where'd this thought come from?

There's a vampire manga series I read in high school that was a journey of the main character (le gasp) but it was "written" by the character himself. As in the "author" of this manga series WAS the main character. (Honestly the author's last name was shortened for his main character but I think it's still relevant) (plus I think it was a novel before manga...? Idk but I've only read the manga)

As I know, it was written as if the another WAS the main character.

My guess is that he wanted his story to feel like it was ACTUALLY written by the MC but still have his story be linked to him when ppl look in libraries and stuff. I've had a similar thought to as my own story does canonically break the 4th wall so to have the MC's name as the AUTHOR adds to the illusion; the immersion. And I remember that THAT was such a cool thing to do when reading this awhile back.

I have no basis for this "Sigma is Kafka Asagiri" but with him kinda being his own character as of rn (not off of an author or even one we know of yet) he severely sticks out compared to EVERYONE.

Author vs Characters

Plus, this just came to me, his ability is basically "I touch you and know what you know" right?

So, as an aspiring author and comicteer and such, I have some words. Over the years id make characters and stories but it quickly became not my own, like it was alive, the things I created. The characters from my pen would move and do things on their own and by watching them, I'd learn of who they are. And as this continued, it really wasn't ME, the author, making these characters do things.

Yes, I do guide the story but I can't tell them to just do things just because; especially if it's not their nature. It's like forcing them to be what they are not. You can make up scenarios to lean them towards a path. I've have to basically "rehire" new characters because the villain I wanted wasn't in front of me like I hoped for. But that not-villian is someone else in the story.

So basically, even tho I'm the creator, I don't know all that happens. I'm even shocked as to what the conclusions are or who someone really is. Sigma being Asagiri's avatar (per say but not like living a fanfic of his own story/not self insert) would open up a hell of a 4th wall discussion. This could elude "The Book" as being BSD itself but I don't think it is.

The book is blank.

The blank pages are a possibility. They could just act as "sticky notes" to insert in a book to make changes later.

We don't know who brought from from that book either. Or if he was in the first place. Possibly just a simple loophole for Sigma=Asagiri.... idk

Ability =Author..?

Possibly BSD story is as we see it now, a trainwreck of bad news and the world ending but he couldn't find a way or change it. As I said, authors vs characters so Sigma was born into that world to change the outcome. Without Sigma, how different would the story be? We don't even know about him until hella later nor what his existence impacted the story before that.

I think he feels a lot like Atsushi because it's that lost MC thing. Cliche as it sounds, it's not a bad start for an MC, to be naive, lost, hopeless, and running until something changes. All they can go is up despite the monsters in their minds trying to drag them down. How different would the story be if Sigma was the MC instead? Would we know too much without actually knowing what it means?

Sigma's ability I think also taps into that "as an author, I only know what my characters tell me" thing. And if Asagiri did create Sigma to change BSD then following the rules of "The Book", he had to have Sigma fit into the world. Thus an ability based off an author (in a 4th wall sense rather then we in that world sense). And Sigma would then be just as clueless and maybe even hopeless as Asagiri would've felt but he's the only hope.

Again Sigma would be an insert just alien enough and blend in enough to maybe make a change. Plus a world of authors and books and abilities, introducing a character without those is like pulling a +4 uno card on us all. (Sneaky lmao)

Random rabbit hole of Σ, ς, σ (Sigma)

Sigma is the 18th letter of the Greek alphabet (Pheonician). Three ways to write it would be uppercase (Σ), lowercase (σ), and final-word position (ς). Sigma origin (šīn) meaning tooth.

I find this funny as Sigma is not of this world and his name basically means "sin". Kinda like he wasn't meant to be here. Or maybe punishing him for "writing/creating" the world of BSD if he's the avatar for Asagiri. Think that's fits with the thought that he made the world but has to suffer the end of that world but his last hope is Sigma.

(I'm bs-ing so hard rn, I'm so sorry 😭)

Plus, I thought this : sigma is used in complicated mathematics and symbols used often in "covariance matrix" which is basically math to map out MULTIDIMENSIONAL SPACES

"Multidimensional matrix". It's how to calculate data across two dimensions.

Using data to go from one place to another much like from inside the story to the auth-

Daemons and Angels

I had watched a Genshin Impact lore/theory video that had talked about some of the cube bosses names came from the Hebrew alphabet. They explained that these cubes correlate to the gods of the land and the elements they represent. These gods also have interesting names too. They have normal names but but the land and history, they go by names of demons from a book called the Ars Goetia.

These cube bosses and gods both have angel and demon names but besides them relating to one other by elements, their angel/demon names match up.

72 Daemons of Ars Goetia and 72 Angels of Shem Hamephorash.

(I sounded smart there for a sec but it's difficult to find the specific letters that correlate to these beings. There's 22 letters and 72 d/A's. ????)

Hebrew and Greek meaning

Σ (Greek sigma) came from שׁ (Hebrew sigma letter).

It's been flipped and changed to the one we know of as Σ. Which is Greek number for 18. In Hebrew 21 and pronounced as Shin, literally meaning tooth. The symbol also representing flames and transformation. Much like a forest fire, the ashes give way for the soul to reabsorb and grow anew thus a transformation. With flame and essential rebirth, the yin and yan, this ultimately represents balance.

It's the processing of destruction without the evil and rebuilding without the sorrow. Much like destruction can be seen as a sort of chaotic creation.

The way Shin is written is with 2-3 Vavs.

Vavs is the Hebrew number 6 and it means "hook". This letter has the power to bring things together when they've become separated in creation.

With this in mind...

His ability literally is to get info outta people like "their" truths

Sigma relation to D.N.A ➡️ specific names

One article talks of them being both letters and numbers, they have a correlation to human DNA. The building blocks. Relation to animo acids and how to tell the body how to process with 22 amino acids.

http://blog.cristianacaria.com/2014/11/26/the-72-angels-and-the-power-of-the-hebrew-letters/

⬆️ this article goes on to talk about how when we are all born, 3 letters are somehow assigned to us at birth and they make up a name of that daemon/angel. This explains the article for Socrates I found before this that talks of how it was believed that he was watched over by a daemon/angel. And had essentially helped him "change the world" and himself thru his philosophy.

This surely explains the 22 to 72 math problem earlier. (Daemons and Angels paragraph)

https://www.idler.co.uk/article/socrates-and-the-angels/#:~:text=Angels%20can%20be%20linked%20to,realms%20of%20mortals%20and%20gods.

Sigma (BSD) age meaning?

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT SIGMA BEING BORN 3 YEARS AGO HAS TO DO WITH ANYTHING.

3 years could mean 1,095-1,096 days of living roughly so that really doesn't do me any good.

I'm done now

Purely speculation but this is based of like 3 brain cells, my author nerdy ass and artistic standpoint in crafting worlds and shit plus it's like 3 am rn 😭

Edit: it's 5:42 am now

Simple read rather than read all that :

Other manga gave thought that Sigma is the authors character like another other character in BSD.

Dazai Osamu, no longer human

Kafka Asagiri, bungou stray dogs

Sigma, information exchange

Maybe Sigma made to help world of BSD but not like self insert. And Sigma Greek and Hebrew letters mean to tear down and rebuild. A balance between mercy/kindness and justice/truth.

Letters relation to Daemons/angels and how they can lead one to change.

Thank you for your time 🥲

~King.M.

#bsd #bungou stray dogs #bsd sigma #bsd theory #bsd manga #bsd anime #bsd author #bsd kafka asagiri #kafka asagiri #rambling at 6 am #author theories #bsd manga theories #bsd anime theories

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booksandpaperss · 2 years

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Welcome to booksandpaperss (aka chaos lol)

Hello hello fellow gay people! Apparently people actually follow me?? And since I usually end up spamming my page with reblogs this is me making an effort be somewhat organized on here so ppl can actually navigate this blog and find my posts (to a decent degree anyway 💀)

update as of 4/4/23: my apologies to feminism bc as you will see 90% of this blog is Mike Wheeler. there’s rlly nothing I can do abt it, hope you understand 🙏

Other sites where you can find me:

ao3 - booksandpaperss

instagram (art acc) - @/fizzy.noodle.doodles

Blog Index:

Writing (WIP excerpts, ficlets, snippets, etc) -

My mandatory Be Nice to Me (by TBF) byler fic- byler fic WIP sneak peak, aka my painting fight fic that completely spiraled out of control and is now also Mike hostage theory, petergate, and lettergate all wrapped into one

And I’ll look directly at the Sun (but only in the dark) - byler fic WIP sneak peak, title loosely based off of anti hero, it’s a pre s3 byler relationship study

right by your side- byler WIP sneak peak, Will-centric and Will has powers fic, among other things ;)

A Look inside Max Mayfield’s “last word” letters to the party- an index of ficlets for my version of Max’s letters to each party member, very angsty, will be updated as I post each letter <3

Info dump post of my season 1 rewrite - byler fic WIP (multichapter), it’s just a general overview of my season 1 AU where Mike goes with Will into the UD ;)

Clinging to Before - a bite sized byler rain fight study/ficlet/poem of sorts

To Swing in our Rusty Memory (like the age old pact) - a Mike gets vecna’d poem from Will’s POV, heavily inspired and influenced by Achilles Come Down and I Know the End

Will comes out to Mike- some quick dialogue only writing practice with the blorbos

Fanart-

Angsty Will animation

Stranger Things posts Masterlist-

List of current in progress analysis posts

major clue in s4 that Mike is vecna’s next target

Let’s talk a lil abt Mike Wheeler, his depression, and what it means for s5

My iconic Stranger Things HotTakesTM

The REAL fruity four

why canon byler is gonna be a huge win for the queer community (breaking down dumb comments on why byler shippers are “overdramatic” 🙄)

we’re really overlooking how much the painting lie was a huge break in Mike and Will’s understanding of their friendship (aka how it’s definitely gonna blow up in Will’s face later)

Mike’s Basement Beats: When love breaks down- analysis (a look at Mike’s s4 arc)

Mike’s train wreck of a “love confession” actually just confirmed byler is mutual

Mike’s expression right before he starts his monologue is confusion + heartbreak

My perspective on Mike’s monologue when I was watching it as a casual viewer

Mike is sooo getting targeted by vecna in season 5: an essay in screenshots

Still having doubts abt byler bc of the monologue? Don’t worry I gotchu

Using my perspective as a lesbian to prove that Mike Wheeler is gay asf (we been knew but still)

Finn Wolfhard’s acting choices in the first flirty byler scene (you know the one)

More on Finn’s acting choices and style

Another look at Will Byers in the Van Scene (will, Mike, and feeling like a mistake, ft the amazing @heheidks)

Shaggy bowl cut Byers agenda

Some Unhinged van scene byler proof

Byler’s love languages <;3

Byler vol 1 in a nutshell

Byler endgame proof: screenshot compilation

Will’s feelings for Mike have been made a crucial part of the plot and will be addressed properly in s5

a brief look at s4 El and overcoming abuse (I’m soso proud of her omg)

Mike’s gay realization arc is already almost complete and can be broken down into 3 parts (mid s2-s4)

Mike and El already broke up in s4 onscreen (Will just didn’t realize and since we got the breakup primarily through his POV we didn’t notice at first either 👀)

Mike gets a sword in s5 agenda has evidence behind it 👀

Episode 9 lighting parallels/analysis (byler and lumax ft some of my moots)

Mike, Will, and queer realization

Mike and El both associate their romantic relationship with losing their best friend

A quick look at how the show shows Will and Mike’s crushes on each other, and what that means for s5

Dustin and his well meaning but horrible no good very bad gaydar (ft byler being dumb and Lucas being tired)

100% accurate and byler tumblr approved analysis of Mike fans vs Will fans

My delusional and self indulgent but also kinda realistic byler scenario for a season 5 trailer

PSA for byler shippers/stranger things shippers in general (and even just fandom with teenage characters in general) to stop shaming teenagers for having sexual thoughts and acting like it’s abnormal

Mike’s alleged romantic love for El was never actually believable to her

Camera angles, volume 2, and Mike Wheeler (aka an analysis of the subtle transition into Mike POV for season 5)

Stranger Things 4 through the lense of a Shakespeare tragedy

the Wheeler parents: a quick debunking of fanon assumptions and misconceptions

Unhinged bowlcut metaphor (you’ll see lmao)

#hope this helps organize the mess that is this blog 💀💀#will be updating this masterpost regularly #love you guys <3

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scattered-winter · 1 year

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AAAAA i did forget to say that i love my own tag!! i do love to be qpr anon 😭 and i enjoyed it sm to read your thoughts on the points i sent you, i can only give back a *strongly agree* for everything you said, it's like you took my brain and wrote your reply while using it 😂😂 did not expect my opinions to be received that well, i tried to go for admitting the hard stuff because that is usually more fun, so i hope it's okay if i bounce off more ideas based on your reply!! ♥

firstly...... HELL YES join the bucktalia train with me, the finale really made me love them a lot, and i hope we will see much more of them in s7! i have more thoughts on them specifically but i'll stick to the og numbering so it's easier to follow 😂 (this feels lowkey like school, i am so sorry LMAO)

1.) i totally get that the donor storyline squicked you! i was very worried about buck not being able to move on from the baby, with him buying that firefighter-like baby onesie and all... but WOW his maturity? that he helped them simply "because he could"? buck is just such a good person, i think we were shown again just how much he is willing to do to help others and how his help is unconditional as well 😭😭 it melted my whole heart. the callback to buck's wish to be loved by his parents unconditionally... how he called himself "defective" but called his own son "perfect"... just. wow. WOW. the fact alone that he helped during the birth of his own biological child, and he was so confident while doing so!! a masterpiece. i need fics with delivery nurse AU for buck ♥♥♥

2.) jjjjjjooooooooin the bucktalia train 😂😂 no jk no pressure ofc! but but but, i just really like natalia, and how they did things with the little time they had left this season! the couch stood for buck's agency and his peace with himself – he knows who he is, he knows he cannot force anyone to stay in his life if they do not fully accept him or fit his own values (abby, taylor), he knows that his partner must understand and accept his type of lifestyle and the risks related to it (ali), he knows that he won't be happy by living somebody else's version of a good life (i.e., having somebody else's couch instead of his own, which goes for abby, ali, and taylor). and just!!!! buck slowly learning that he is lovable the way he is and that he would rather be alone than settle for somebody who does not love all of him!!!!! it's so important to me. and i do not understand why everyone is saying he regressed! 😭😭 where?!? with every relationship and new experience, buck is learning a lil bit more about himself and his worth imo. it does not have to be linear, and sometimes it's babysteps instead of big jumps, but that's how development works. real humans do not just snap with their fingers and unlearn all their maladaptive behaviors and coping mechanisms either. give buck time ffs @ the fandom!!

2.1.) i am drinking the hot tea that you just served me, bestie. sip sip sip, you are so correct about everything re the buddie agenda and hivemind!! it's crazy to me because i genuinely feel like they almost gaslight themselves and everybody else with what they do?!?! even scenes that are unrelated to buddie are *used* for buddie purposes (e.g. the scene with chim and his dad, about biological fathers), and it's so damn frustrating to me because the facts get twisted and twisted and twisted 😭 like NO!! these scenes weren't even about buddie!!! or worse, they twist everything around to make canon love interests look like the devil when they are often more innocent than buck and eddie themselves (let's not act as if these two are unfailing gentlemen who always treat their women right, c'mon now). and then the fandom gets excited because they come up with some new elaborate theory again, and then they genuinely expect buddie to become canon every single episode. and are disappointed and angry when they aren't. buddie has much bigger problems than that when in 6 veeery long seasons, there was not a single hint dropped that buck or eddie are attracted to men even thought they had plenty of opportunity to do so fjsdfkdshk;; the fun time with headcanons and theories has ended like 3 seasons ago because of the buddie fandom taking over everything... just, ugh.

3.) i could not have said it better. not adding any comment, you spilled the truth.

4.) YES AAAAAA god i can't, i am full of emotions for bucktalia. and yes, she did help deliver the baby in the sense that she got utensils for buck to deliver it, and she also dabbed kameron's forehead with a wet towel etc!! 😭♥ especially the fact that natalia is a death doula has me sooo intrigued. people who work in such a field just have a completely different relation to death, and with grief, and with life (she called herself an "end-of-life doula", which i need everybody to know and think about – how she emphasized the life, not the death)!!! buck's job, his past death, his coma experience, daniel?!? he experienced death himself, he experienced those of others that he tried to save... i just think, in athena's words, maybe natalia is finally the "specific kind of crazy" that can fully accept what buck's lifestyle truly means. because natalia herself has been there to help those that are at the end of their lives – and so has buck. idk idk idk, their professions are different but also so alike! 😭😭

related to that, i LOVED that she wanted to talk to buck about his death experience! there, i said it, and i hate the fandom for twisting it into smth ugly. BUCK was the one joking about his own death, and natalia responded accordingly. it's literally her profession to deal with death, and to accompany people who will die soon on this last journey of their lives. humans have always been interested to know how death feels like, what comes after death... i find her passion 1000% understandable, and tbh? to think that maybe she was looking for an answer about all this, from somebody who was dead before but came back, so that she could be better at helping others?!?!?! i respect and love that idea. what do you think? ♥♥

5.) indeed!! "fandom illiteracy" is my new favorite word, it's so fitting, yes yes yes. and it's ALWAYS just when it's about buddie or a canon love interest that ""threatens"" buddie canonization (as if THAT is what threatens it lol. not the fact that we have yet to see either of them find men attractive?). also omg i originally called eddie an unreliable narrator in my ask but deleted that again bc i didn't wanna come off as too harsh 😂😂😂 and i must add, eddie did not even meet ana at a call! 😂 they met at christopher's school, and he had immediate chemistry with her, so much so that carla immediately side-eyed him for giving her hearteyes. what's that about *magic* and *chemistry* that eddie talked about again?? they reconnected thanks to a call, yes, but it was eddie's choice to ask for a date, and it was eddie who was burdened by past trauma that he had repressed for years, and it was eddie who was not ready for anything serious. ana said "it's your mess now" after he broke up with her in the most ineloquent way possible, after showing that ana was cleaning up his mess in the kitchen. i did not care much about eddieana overall but like... people put all the blame on ana, even for her calling eddie "edmundo", as if eddie is not an adult who can speak and advocate for himself. like, he is just A GUY. maybe the real issue was all his baggage that he hasn't dealt with yet, and not whether or not he met ana on a call. realistically, eddieana was doomed from the start no matter where they met because eddie was simply not ready for anything serious, emotionally and mentally. he would have also not been ready if it was buck, or marisol, or anyone else. that is OKAY. but i NEED the fandom to stop taking everything these characters say as gospel truth, as you fittingly called it. they are fictional, they are tools to tell a story, they are tools to create drama and evoke emotions! and for this, they often talk bullshit to learn a lesson later on. and well, we saw eddie dealing with his trauma finally, and moving forward at his own pace, and being happy to get a date with marisol!

6.) i agree with you on everything here YES. finale gave such great whump, i loved the action and the hurt and the dirty bloody looks and all!! hen wiping away buck's blood????????????? SCREAMING CRYING THROWING UP. i also agree that a bit more time for the recovery part would have been nice. then again, they also did not give us much of that when buck's leg was crushed or eddie was shot. the show often skips parts that would be very satisfactory imo lol. but i love good whump and hurt/comfort so maybe that's just me LOL.

share your fic ideas (ONLY if you feel comfortable doing so) and also i am incredibly sorry this got so long. i will now go hide under a blanket and fangirl about bucktalia dfdfgksdlk;

<33!!

for the sake of not repeating myself because we've both said stuff like this in the other post I'm just gonna say a blanket statement for all these and say HARD AGREE <33

HOWEVER i do want to individually touch on natalia because OUGH. I FORGOT SHE REFERRED TO HERSELF LIKE THAT. OUHG <33 I love that so fucking much.

also YEAH. justice for ana and taylor and ali and abby and natalia and every other character who was in proximity with buddie and suffered more than jesus for it

AND FOR FIC IDEAS i really. don't have a LOT of fully formed thoughts but idk. jee and maddie visiting chim in the hospital. buck (no broken ribs) driving eddie home and maybe staying over for a few days to help him out while he healed. athena + bobby being tender. hen + karen being tender. maybe all the hospitalized 118 get together in a single hospital room and plan a breakout. who can say <3 (this is only fic ideas to fit into the episode. however i have. uh. 50+ wips and aus for other things in this fandom. i have what you might call A Problem)

AND I'D LIKE TO ADD A LITTLE DISCLAIMER HERE. BECAUSE I'VE BEEN A HATER FOR THE PAST FEW DAYS BUT I NEED TO SET SOMETHING STRAIGHT. i LOVE buddie. i do. i love their tenderness, and their intimacy, and their friendship, and i love what they have, and i love what they could have. i love slowburns, and i love friends to lovers, and i love coparenting, and i genuinely love looking at them through a romantic lens because it sparks joy !! and i also love looking at them through a qpr lens because it sparks joy !! they spark joy in any capacity !!! my gripes with buddie are at the FANDOM LEVEL, not w the sillies onscreen. its because other characters and relationships are shoved out of the way, or twisted, or put down to prop buddie up, and its because its SO HARD to find meta, fic, or anything else in this fandom that focuses solely on any of the other incredible characters, pairings, or themes in this show because everything's always about You Know Who and You Know Who Else. I know I've been kinda spiteful toward them lately but I just wanna say that it's stemming from frustration of watching characters constantly be demonized/ignored/shoved aside so that Buddie Can Work(tm) as opposed to me actually hating the pairing. ty goodnight <3

#I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT BECAUSE I REALLY DO LOVE BUDDIE BUT THE FANDOM DRIVES ME CRAZY #anyway ty ty <33 #i didnt want to respond to each thing individually because while i LOVE hearing ur thoughts !!! everything was already said in the last one #so ykw . <33 #qpr anon ✨️#911 abc

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weirdagnes · 2 years

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aight so uhh lil spontaneous positive rant about OFF rpg bc it’s 1AM and I’m having feelings

bro OFF has that magic that makes me fall for it all over again even if I have,, rewatched it gazillion of times. I religiously rewatch it every year (hush it’s my comfort game), yet it never fails to amaze me and punch me in the gut. Reading theories and fan interpretations of the story and the characters is always fun to read, they’re all absolutely valid and mind-blowing every time.

And every time I take a lil check back in the fandom, I find there’s ppl who still make animations abt it, who makes song remixes with other vgm (undertale x off ost is such a king-to-king crossover), and I learn new stuff like Papyrus was inspired by Dedan’s design? Batter is apparently a beast in battles when in Auto and the Player is probs just holding him back bc he lets you control him? the Bad Batter was confirmed ace?? Batterie is possible in “an alternate universe” confirmed like BRO??? (so does that mean Batterie in fanfics is canon and is validated by the creator bc fanfics are technically kinda like AUs if we treat the game as the canon verse and fanfics as alternate universe -)

Anyways, one thing that blew my small little child brain when I was younger and I just first discovered OFF was the idea of an “unreliable narrator.” I felt so betrayed then, and tbh rewatching it yearly, it still blows my freaking mind. Bad Batter reveal was PERFECT, and it wasn’t some random twist in the end, it was a long build up and the game was dropping hints - it gives the Player ample time to think for themselves. When you return to the purified zones, that’s when the Batter’s motives become questionable, but you still put faith in him bc while purification of the zones seems like a shady mission, he isn’t wrong about eradicating spectres (who ARE hostile) and the Guardians aren’t good either so whatever the Batter is doing still seems like the right decision. The game makes you think it’s a black-and-white “hero vs. villains” when really, everyone is in the grey area, and it becomes especially clear that it is when we found out about the whole Hugo situation. It’s like, every character, including the Guardians, had good intentions at some points but they’re also flawed, and I think the flawed characterization is so beautiful because it made the characters complex and it makes you understand why they’re acting this way or how did they become this way. Tbh there’s so so much to say about each character and their symbolisms but i dont have the brain capacity for deep thinking and analysis like other OFF fans (bless yall btw)

And bro,, the art? the music? Straight up FIRE. The spectre designs are so cool I based off my whole personality off of it at some point when I was younger. But no joke, I was super influenced by Mortis’ artstyle. My love for sketchy pencil art style and concept art; my preference of colorless drawings; my fascination for surreal/body horror, foreshortening and perspective all started with my little caveman brain discovering OFF. I straight up saw OFF art and said “wow. I wanna do something like that.” And lord, the music - someone hold me back. It just as influential to my music taste as the art did to my art style. I never really stopped listening to the soundtrack throughout the years, even if I never check back in the fandom, I still listen to it. My appreciation for percussion went really high after hearing the OFF ost. My habit of checking out video game ost after seeing a game also started with OFF ost, bc what if I miss out another bomb soundtrack like OFF, right? Pepper Steak was my first exposure to Electro Swing, and man I’m so glad bc now Electro Swing is one of my fav genres. Brain Plague ost is very brain (heh) stimulating, it’s literally addicting to listen to?? And the music also did very well in complementing the areas of the game, it added a whole new atmosphere and god don’t you just love it when music does that little magic. The game’s aesthetic is solid and coherent in both the art and music, like what a teamwork! I defo want to do something like that if I create my own game (possibly, I hope my future allows it)

Tbh there’s so much more I can say about this game, but I’m not very good at constructing a professional and coherent analysis or whatever. And this is all first draft so

TL;DR : OFF is very iconic and definitely one of the best rpg games ever bestowed upon Earth, and I love it forever no joke Im having feelings for it again

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jess-the-vampire · 3 years

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Idk how u feel about the Grimwalker theory, and idk why but that 3rd meme (all those memes are drawn rlly well btw, and are rlly funny) reminded me of this idea I had that the palismen that choose Hunter was Like... Actually Belos' at one point way b4 he became the emperor. And the reason why Lil' Rascal choose him not only was bc he recognized that want - no need to choose your own path, but also saw the remnants of the person his old friend was.

oh thanks very much!!!

ok first off when it comes to the pailsman, i think that theory only works under the condition belos isn’t philip and is just...some other dude. Since phil has now canonically been confirmed to have a spider pailsman.

Interesting choice for him for sure.

Not sure if rascal’s previous owner will be important or not, they could be but i can easily see them not being important either. (Maybe one of phil’s friends who died owned him or something?)

thing is i think it’s fair to confirm the reason rascal bonded with hunter was more akin to their feelings or wanting to escape and explore, hunter and rascal bonded because of hunter’s desire for freedom.

They bond through emotion, as confirmed by the bat queen, but that might be the only reason.

this does not dismiss the idea he could have belonged to belos (Though that would imply belos had a desire for freedom too at one point), but it’s not likely rascal chose hunter solely on much relation since it doesn’t appear to work that way.

It would make me ask why rascal wouldn’t have a stronger reaction to belos upon seeing him if he knew him too.

Though it is a cool idea.

As for the grimwalker thing, yeahhhhhh, there’s no denying that the idea of hunter....being this...thing, is VERY heavily implied based on the book alone. The same eyes (Unique too, never seen another witch with his eye color yet), his nose, the fact the creature is raised from infancy.

People say belos might be trying to make a new one and that’s why the book is out, but i doubt it.

Because if he wanted to make one, then why did he just want the selkidomoius dead? He didn’t even harvest it, and if he needed to harvest it they’d figure out it was never killed in the first place! And hunter, since that was his job, would very much be punished for failing if that’s what the point of him doing that was. So basically there’s no way belos had that out attempting to make one right now because hunter would be SUPER in trouble for it.

So why have it out? Well outside of it being there for us, the viewers, and imply what might be foreshadowing for hunter. I think in canon belos had it out because it has details on the creature in question, and if belos made hunter....and NEEDS him, he’s probably just reading up on him for the future plans with him.

It would have details on grimwalker abilities and things belos would need to know about is he wanted his grimwalker to function for his plan.

but no, it’s very implied belos already made a grimwalker, he isn’t planning to make one right now. I think someone even pointed out a galdorstone actually is already missing if you go back to TTLGR.

And yeah, hunter right now makes the most sense to be it.

Because i knew something HAD to be special about him for belos to need him, it was a matter of what make hunter in particular so unique belos couldn’t use anyone else.

I don’t think it’s to harvest him or something, i think it’s likely a grimwalker has unique abilities that belos requires for the plan, but we need more on that for now.

I don’t know if belos wants to take over his body or not, but i def don’t think killing him is what they’re going for either.

It does raise the question about hunter’s “Ancestor” talk, and being “Found” by belos. Like that whole thing only gets more confusing under the condition belos like....made him.

But there is a likelyhood belos gave him false memories, there’s enough room here for that to be a likely reason, we have no reason to believe currently that belos didn’t just.....tell hunter stories of their ancestors being magicless just to avoid telling him what he is.

the show could be trying to throw us off, but also like, there’s strong evidence to support the idea hunter is something belos...made:

He clearly already made a grimwalker, and isn’t making a new one.

the grimwalker ages, and there’s even a CHECKMARK right now to the “Child/teen” stage.

Hunter has to be unique in some way to be part of the titan’s plans.

it would explain his lack of powers.

and it’s hard to deny he bears resemblance to the grimwalker depicted.

i’m pretty much expecting hunter’s next appearance to be centered around this grimwalker thing honestly. I’m curious to know more about what it is and why belos needed one.

cause if he wanted a body, couldn’t he just....find a random kid to do this with? Why did he MAKE one?

so i like this idea, it’s honestly funny cause one of my early assumptions about GG was “Maybe belos made a clone?”, cause i felt we were gonna get weird parental vibes with them and belos seems like the weirdo who’d do that.

And i guess that came full circle now.

i def don’t think it’s creepy luz cause that’s both a waste of resources on belos’s part and couldn't even happen to begin with since he barely knew luz before the creature was already on earth and he can’t even get to earth to begin with so there’s no way that thing got sent by him.

But no, in conclusion, i like this idea.

Hunter is already an interesting character, this idea.....only builds on the pile of things that make him so interesting.

i’m impressed how in so few episodes they made him by far one of the most interesting characters in the series.

#the owl house #toh #emperor belos #the owl house hunter #golden guard #toh golden guard #the owl house golden guard #the golden guard

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msookyspooky · 2 years

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Ngl I don't personally ship Stu and Billy together cause canonically they are meant to be straight and I'm not the sharing type, but THIS STORY IS AMAZING. I'm a sucker for slow burn romances and I'm lowkey picky when it comes to fics sooo this is the first one in a LONG TIME that I've been so excited about.

I would rather lose A WHOLE LIMB than let anything happen to Seth or Dewey 😭 You don't present Stu as some innocent guy who just killed for Billy, no, you show that he was gonna kill REGARDLESS of Billy's influence and it's so refreshing cause it was hinted Stu always was messed up in the film. I can't help but cringe everytime someone tries to argue that Stu was in love with Billy and THAT was why he killed. I respect the opinion, but the dolls hanging in Stu's attic go completely against that theory. This man was ripping dolls apart bc he was imagining doing it to people 😭 and it was hidden in the attic where his parents probably never go.

Another thing too is that we don't ACTUALLY know what Stu's feelings for Billy were in the film. They were explicitly written to only be friends and tbh that's how I interpret them. However, they clearly weren't even true friends if Billy was ready to sell him out. Stu even implied that he was going to blame Billy if they got caught with the whole "peer pressure" thing. It's so nice to see an author be realistic about how selfish these two really are 👏

I love how our character is actually flawed and how you don't sugarcoat that Billy and Stu are terrible people. I love soft Billy and Stu, but I can only take so much fluff 🤣 The fact that you made me simp for MEEKS even tho I never simped for him before? An impressive feat.

I'm hyped for the next chapter lol I'm ready for my dinner date with our hunk of a man named Ray 😏 why do I have a funny feeling Gale is gonna interrupt it? Ik Dewey's gonna be there. I'm so excited to see Mark too. I'm ready to get a free ride in the police car with my shades on. I'll be the Olivia Benson to his Elliot Stabler 🤣🤣

Billy and Stu's dynamic is canonlically confusing, chaotic and dark. That I will 100% agree with.

Whether they were always friends or not is debatable. Did Billy know of Stu and knew he was a lil wacked and thought 'this guys perfect' or were they always two kind of screwed up individuals that were always friends and Stu kind of followed Billy around and shared common interests and Billy took a chance? I think they were friends bc even if Stu was used as a sell out in case shit went south; Billy would not trust just anyone with a murder plot.

I respectfully disagree with the straight thing only bc the writter himself eluded to basing both characters off of two closeted gay teen murderers even though he left the idea of them being together up to the audience to this day; he still was influenced by these two murderers when writting Billy and Stu. Neve confirmed she thought it was plausible they were. Matthew Lilard himself headcanons it joking or not the idea is there. And it was so homoerotic that Scary Movie made fun of it with Bobby and Ray. Randy himself called Billy a homorepressed mamas boy. That's way too many ppl and big names IMO noticing the homoerotic vibes included those involved for them to be 100% straight. Yes they were presented as straight but I think the only reason they weren't at least canonly bisexual was the same reason they cut out Amber and Tara being a couple; Censors wouldn't allow it and the movie would have tanked. One lesbian is the limit apparently... People were bitching about the gay couple in IT part 2 for fucksakes. I was in the theater with ppl booing and throwing popcorn at the screen and then cheering when the one died. It's sick but we are not as progressed as much as the chronically online internet world wants to think we are. Let alone in the 90s when Scream first came out. Wes had to limit the gore just to get the movie to pass let alone if they had two repressed teen boys together.

I don't write them as strictly homosexual OBVIOUSLY (At least not from what we see with Stu definitely into girls and Billy having sex with Sidney and Christy. We could argue its confincating but whatever). And maybe that's just my bi ass headcanoning and tired of bisexuality being erased constantly?

Ppl hc them as straight, bi/pan, ace or gay and honestly I'm fine with it as long as no one gets hateful. I just wanted to clarify why I personally don't consider them hetero in my writing. Not an attack on you or anything babe just claryfying my own headcanons! 🖤🖤🖤

I respect it if you don't ship them bc I don't ship them romantically either not bc I don't like it but bc I can't see them willing to be healthy and romantically together tbh. Fool around? For sure. But I sadly don't know if Matt's idea of them being a queer couple killing on the weekends and rescuing dogs is possible lolol

And trust me, just last year I never shipped poly anything especially with a self insert...Now? Ngl it hits different. @polyghostfacehours showed me the light lmfao

As for my writing; I greatly appreciate the compliment!! I'm sick of ppl painting Stu as an innocent meow meow too and Billy's lapdog. And I love fluffy writing but slowburns and angst is where it's at for me. Shit hits perfectly and I will probably never stop no matter how frustrating it is watching characters fumble and fuck it up ☠️🖤

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unohanadaydreams · 3 years

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Okay I’m mentally prepared to ramble about the Hell Arc. No panels, just words.

The first blurb is definitely Ukitake speaking and I’d like to think it’s hiding some bitterness and regret, since he’s in hell, but you know I’m not gonna hold on to hope that it’s anything deep.

Orihime being resigned to laundry as well as just NOT knowing where her son is??? I’m sorry the same Orihime that can sense Ichigo like it’s her fucking job? But y’know uwu it’s okay to be a housewife and this is definitely Kubo showing off his depth of feminist theory and not shoving Orihime in the background bc wife clean and cook and nothing else ooga booga.

Kon as a babysitter is horrifying. The implication that they’ve kept him as a teddy bear for all these years is even more so. Like damn you can’t ask Urahara for ONE gigai after you saved the world, Ichigo? Hope youre paying him a living wage for helping you navigate the terrible twos. Tbh I think it would’ve been better to have a new sidekick and for Kon to be working for Urahara now.

Okay I do think the kid sending souls to Hell on accident is pretty funny. But also it’s definitely Kubo forgetting that Orihime is in the picture and Kazui is not Ichigo. He has more than Isshin; he has Orihime as his mom. He has someone who cares very much that he’s still in his bed and is someone he would talk to about uuuuh sending ppl through a portal. I know women are a different species and are incredibly hard to grasp because of that so it’s okay Kubo.

Ichika being taught by Ikkaku and to a lesser extent Yumichika is very good. Love that enough to gloss over my disappointment at Rukia not teaching her. I just know Byakuya is probably a lil bitter about it too. Rukongai rats 1 Noble clan 0

Booooo Kubo, get off the stage. Pointing out Orihime is at home doing laundry does not fix that she’s there. If she’s not gonna stop Kazui from doing whatever the fuck she might as well be eating bad ramen too.

MAYURI MY BELOVED. You’re so right, king, Urahara is a tasteless capitalist unlike you, who fully commits to the too-organic technological horrors the Seireitei deserves.

Did Kubo forget how to draw Rangiku? Why the fuck is her face so moe. Some of the women look pretty off in the face over all but with Rangiku it’s jarring. I know her face got more moe somewhere in tybw arc but jfc it’s worse here.

I find it hard to believe that Shunsui would stick to a tradition that demands all lieutenants be away and in the human world all at once but maybe he just doesn’t give a shit about anything nowadays. Depression is leading the Gotei 13 now.

It’s not a Bleach surprise attack unless a woman is grievously injured right off the bat.

That being said, I do enjoy the two new lieutenants. The hakama shorts are a Choice but they work somehow. Also a zanpakuto being on nails is fun.

Kira and Akon ❤️ I’m glad Kubo retconned the novels so Kira could make his entrance in a hoodie and black tabi. Hope he gets more depressing and bitter moments tho. Also Akon having so much panel space…..I’ll never recover.

Hell Szayel is so fucking horny which is astounding considering like everything he did was a sex joke in Hueco Mundo arc. His sex appeal has aged like fine wine. Also pure comedy that Ichigo can only ask who he is. If only Uryu were there 😔

So did they have ceremonies for Gin and Kaname because if not then???? Like I understand it’s impossible to make this gel 100% bc its not based on anything other than wanting characters to come back as cool demons and is actively working against previous canon but c’mon. They would’ve noticed before this when no ceremony for Gin and Kaname was held and their reishi haunted everyone via molasses rain drops.

That being said, I love love love the concept of characters coming up from Hell with not holes within them but outside them. They do not need to consume others to feel completion, they are consumed to the point of wanting to fill others. Don’t you recognize me? Don’t you see what you’ve done? Don’t you long to fill that hole inside of you, too? All it takes is dying to reach that nirvana of knowing who you are and what you feel in swirling completion. Even fallen, the fruit of knowledge is divine.

I want Ukitake to say he’s glad Shunsui lived to his face while looking so heartbroken that he didn’t get to live too. I want these two to cry across from one another with a flashback to their idyllic youth. I want it *grabby hands*

Sosuke Aizen has disappeared as in dead? Or are they counting ‘out of Seireitei’ as disappeared. Honestly 50/50 whether he’ll have a form of cameo. On one hand he’s incredibly popular, on the other hand Kubo was floundering with him during tybw so I can’t imagine he gives a shit to bring him back.

As far as new lore for hell butterflies goes, I guess we’ll see how interesting it gets but I highly doubt it’s going to get a lot of thought.

With the way Kazui is smiling, it makes me wonder if someone taught him about the shrine and sending souls to hell. Does he recognize the door? Is Kubo implying that Ukitake has had contact with Kazui? I mean, it would make a LOT of sense considering the fish he was riding, the ritual he knows. It would also make sense why the soul reaper badge was highlighted; Ukitake has been around in some capacity before officially being stomped to hell???

Definitely me thinking too much about it but also there’s no way Kazui just knows this shit without someone from Hell telling him about it even covertly.

This entire arc set up definitely seems like it’ll bring some worthwhile angst and maybe some moments for the more unexplored characters if characters like Akon getting screen time is any education.

Overall not hoping for anything other than good Hell designs and seeing characters do things.

If I don’t see Kenpachi with his beefy titties out I will be disappointed. That’s my bare minimum.

#Kazui is absolutely being led astray by someone in Hell #gonna guess Kubo is joining the ‘making parents criminally incompetent’ club #also MAYURI AND AKON MY BELOVEDS #I just wish Kenpachi had even one panel??????????#he’s so….hes so ❤️#bleach spoilers #bleach hell arc #okay spoilers tags added

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maybankiara · 4 years

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IF I SAY A CLICHE (IT’S CAUSE I MEAN IT)

pairing: Pre-Canon!Rafe Cameron x Fem!Reader

summary: Despite knowing his name, or perhaps in spite of it, Y/N only ever calls him Rafael, even as he goes above and beyond to get her to go out with him. (Especially as he does that.) -- loosely based off Noora x William from SKAM

w/c: 6.3k

a/n: @snkkat suggested this like three months ago and i recently remembered this and wrote it in two sessions. this is a lil baby of mine and i adore it with all my heart and i really hope y’all enjoy it, too!

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‘Hey.’

It takes Rafe Cameron three years to notice you. When you moved to the Outer Banks, to the outskirts of what the locals called Figure Eight (‘Without a doubt, the prettiest, most extravagant part of the island,’ said your dad), you built your way out of nothing. It was a fresh start – new school, new friends, new opportunities.

And obviously, new assholes who think they’re all that in high school.

Rafe Cameron is, easily, the worst of the crop.

It’s your third year of high school when you’re walking down the staircase in the northern wing of the Robert Cooke Academy, and Rafe Cameron intercepts your way.

He’s all gelled hair, preppy-boy clothing that consists of a muted-yellow polo and black trousers, and a grin that somehow encompasses his entire personality.

You raise a single eyebrow. ‘Hello?’

‘You’re Y/N, right?’

‘Yes, I am, Rafael.’

The thing with boys like Rafe is that they’re easy to know. You didn’t have to look at him twice to see he thinks of himself as the prince of the school—the island, actually—and that just about every person who lives and breathes in the Outer Banks knows exactly who he is. Not long after that, you heard some talk of Rafe constantly giving those “filthy pogues” from the south side of the island what they deserve. He’d show up to school with bruises and stitches, but never without a smug look that’s just as prominent than the injuries themselves.

You hear your friends move behind you, letting some people pass. Rafe doesn’t budge, and you don’t either.

His eyes search yours with the same crook in his smile. ‘It’s Rafe.’

‘That’s what I said,’ you state. ‘Rafael.’

The look he gives you is puzzled. He stares, just for a moment, and then you push yourself past him without another word. Your friends follow suit but he doesn’t, which you consider a good thing – Rafe isn’t used to girls not falling at their knees around him.

When you’re finally away from the staircase, leaving him behind, your friends ask you about the whole ordeal. They don’t ask much—they know you’re not someone keen on whatever the social hierarchy of the school is supposed to be—but they ask why you decided to consistently call him the wrong name.

A teacher enters the classroom and the talks turned into hushed conversations. You turn around in your chair with it letting out the tiniest squeal, and smile at your friends sitting beside you. ‘I just thought he’d hate it if I called him by the wrong name.’

‘He’s going to hate you,’ one of your friends deadpans.

‘And therefore leave me alone.’

The teacher calls on your for talking, so you get your attention back to the class, instead. Contrary to what might be the popular belief, you don’t really think about Rafe. What you did was what you thought necessary to keep him away from you.

Boys don’t like girls who poke at their ego.

Except.

Except Rafe does.

When he approaches you two days later, it’s in the corridor of school where you’ve never seen him before (‘Which means one thing and one thing only – he was looking for you’, your friend concludes later).

You glance at him out of the corner of your eye, pretending not to see him even when nearly every head around you is turned towards him. You clutch your books close to your chest, getting ready to return them to your locker for the lunch break, when he steps in your way.

Again, you raise an eyebrow. Your back shivers at all the eyes staring at you, now.

Rafe gives you a fox-like smile. ‘Hi, Y/N.’

‘Get out of my way, Rafael.’

The corridor stirs, or so it seems.

An exasperated sigh comes from the boy in front of you, yet he looks as sure of himself as ever. ‘You know it’s Rafe.’

You cock your head to the side, eyebrows furrowing. ‘Is it?’

Rafe laughs, for the first time, and it’s a sound that somehow fills the space between the two of you. You tell yourself Rafe is just a boy, but it doesn’t ring true this time.

His eyes drill into yours for a long moment. ‘Go out with me.’

‘Ha! Not gonna happen.’

You pull your shoulders back, straighten your spine, raise your chin and step around the boy with ease. He’s quick to react, though, so it’s less than a second later that your hear heavy steps catching up to yours. His presence at your side is something that takes a lot of effort to ignore.

‘Have lunch with me, then.’

People stare. You ignore them, too, and take a turn into the corridor that leads to the cafeteria. ‘That’s not going to happen, either. I’m having lunch with my friends.’

‘Fine,’ says Rafe, and you have to repeat the word in your head to be certain you’ve heard it correctly.

‘Fine?’

‘Yeah, fine,’ he reaffirms. ‘What, were you hoping for a different answer?’

Part of you wants to admit that you thought he’d put up a fight, keep you entertained even for a bit (no, you tell yourself, i’m not looking to rafe cameron for entertainment!), but you keep your lips pressed tight as you look him up and down.

The smile you give him is sour, far from reaching your eyes. ‘Not in a million years, Rafael.’

‘Rafe,’ he says again.

‘Mhm.’

You reach the cafeteria and he is still at your side, but you ignore him. That is, until you feel a hand clasp your arm and bring you to a halt – firm and decisive. It’d take a fool not to know who it is.

When you turn around, there’s a question on your lips, but an answer already falling from his, ‘Go out with me.’

‘I said that’s not happening.’

‘If I buy you lunch?’

‘You can buy me lunch,’ you say, ‘but I won’t have it with you.’

‘Fine.’

All you do in response is quirk an eyebrow at him, arms crossed at your chest. He’s still holding onto it, and when he finally lets go, you feel cold where his hand once was.

Rafe smiles at you and, surprisingly, it’s a smile with charm and no cockiness. ‘What do you want?’

With only the slightest bit of hesitation, you tell him your order for the day. It’s more than you’d usually take—some of it is for your friends, too—but he doesn’t seem to care, even if he notices. He tells you he’d bring it to your table and you join your friends who, naturally, have about a million questions.

The two of you weren’t particularly unnoticeable with your conversation.

You’ve got no answers of substance, though, because the story repeats itself – Rafe Cameron asks you out and you deny him.

True to his words, about two minutes later, the blond arrives to your table, tray in hand. ‘For you.’

‘Thanks, Rafael! You can go now.’

Rafe places the tray in front of you, hands firm and steady. You don’t even look at him, continuing to talk to your friends instead, but you do feel the air whoosh around you as he turns and leaves, without a word.

You snack on the fries as if nothing just happened. When your friends ask, you pretend it was nothing.

It wouldn’t be a lie if you said that you never intended on communicating with the school’s half-official (if all those football trophies are saying anything) king. He’s not looking for a queen – if the rumours you hear are half as true, his bed is warmer like this, anyway.

One of your friends accuses you of playing mind games with him in an effort to make him fall for you, and you nearly flip out. ‘Rafe Cameron is a misogynistic, self-obsessed, narcissistic pig. I’d rather go out with an actual pig than him.’

Your friends let it go, because you sound convincing enough, but you can’t seem to let it go anymore. On your way home, you tell yourself you have every right to feel no guilt or remorse for the way you act towards him – you tell yourself he’s never shown you to be anything other than the person you think him to be.

But then – he bought you lunch, knowing he’d be getting nothing out of it.

maybe that’s the plan. lull me into believing him to want nothing and then have me give him everything.

The thought is annoying enough that you get on Instagram when you get home, finding yourself scrolling down his feed. Friends, football, family, travels. His tagged is worse, though – mostly partying, him with a variety of girls as his arm candy.

Your phone ends up thrown on your bed with a little too much force.

This is it, you tell yourself, no more thinking about Rafe.

It lasts until morning, anyway. He catches you on your way into the Academy, relentless at your side.

‘So,’ begins Rafe, ‘misogynistic, self-obsessed, narcissistic pig.’

Your heart sinks into your stomach and your blood runs cold – you’d never meant for him to hear that. But you keep walking as if his words can’t touch you, even if you have to stuff your hands into your pockets to keep the embarrassment from showing. ‘I wasn’t wrong.’

‘You were.’

‘Interesting theory.’

The two of you pass through the entrance. People are looking, again, without even hiding it anymore. You wonder what they are saying, whispering when neither of you are within earshot. Do they think you’re a slut, just one of Rafe’s conquers? Do you think you’re an ice-cold bitch? Do they think you’re stuck up, or doing the right thing?

Maybe they don’t notice, you find yourself hoping. The moment Rafe decided to start talking to you, you lost any semblance of anonymity you might’ve had before.

He smells like a fancy cologne, you realise. A mountain forest with a sprinkle of something from the sea.

‘Let me prove you I’m none of that.’

‘Not happening.’

He steps in front of you, making you stop. ‘Go out with me, one time, and if you still hate me, I’ll never bother you again.’

You ponder for a hot second, shifting weight from one foot to another. ‘I don’t hate you. I don’t care about you enough for that, Rafael.’

Rafe’s neck tenses just the slightest bit, and you think that maybe you’d finally found something that does put him off. But then he relaxes, lips stretch into a comfortable smile, and he shrugs. ‘All I’m asking for is one date.’

‘And you never talk to me again,’ you clarify.

‘If that’s what you’ll want.’

‘Fine.’

‘Fine?’

The smile you give him is coy. ‘Were you hoping for a different answer, Rafael?’

He shakes his head. Against your will, you notice that he looks far more relaxed than before, and you aren’t as indifferent to noticing that as you’d told yourself you’d be.

‘Not in a million years.’

For a moment, you try to figure out if quoting one another to one another is cringe, and then you give up, because you already know the answer.

It should be yes.

But it is this: he notices. He pays attention.

So you let out the tiniest of sighs. ‘Friday, six o’clock.’

‘I’ll pick you up at yours.’

‘You know where I live?’

‘No,’ he says, ‘but I’m guessing you’ll text me your address.’

Rafe puts out a hand and you know what he’s meaning. The bell rings as you’re taking your phone out of your pocket, signalling the start of the first period that you’ll most likely be late to.

He saves his number to your contacts and you put it back, already on your way.

Naturally, he’s quick to fall into step with you. ‘You’re not going to text me the address?’

‘Not giving you my number before I need to.’

You stop in front of a classroom and peek through the small window on the door to ensure the teacher hasn’t arrived yet. When you glance at Rafe, your hand on the doorknob, he’s smiling.

‘Whatever you want, Y/N.’ He takes a step back, just about beaming, and you do your best to ignore the feeling in the pit of your stomach. ‘See you Friday!’

‘Whatever, Rafael.’

He blows you an air kiss as he walks away and you bite your lip to prevent yourself from smiling. When you finally get into the class, mere seconds before your teacher, you spend most of it thinking about none other than Rafe Cameron himself.

At the end of the day, you’re just human, and he is just another hot guy. It’s human nature to feel things for people you don’t necessarily want to. And, to be fair – aside from being slightly annoying and fairly inconvenient, Rafe has been nothing but a gentleman to you.

No one has ever bought you something without expecting anything in return. And fair enough, it could be argued that Rafe did expect you to eventually agree to him asking you out—which you did—but he couldn’t know for sure.

And, despite what you might be saying, you like the attention from him. You like feeling seen.

Monday to Friday passes with occasional glances, bare conversations. Rafe approaches you several times, buys you lunch every day and brings it to your table without hesitation. You hear what people begin to say – how they begin to call him “pussy whipped”.

The bell rings just as you’re about to deny the rumour, and you’re quite literally saved by the bell. You get into the classroom unable to believe you were just about to defend Rafe Cameron, and it’s only Thursday.

If he knows, you don’t notice. The rumours—about the both of you—simmer down to whispers by Friday afternoon, and when Rafe brings you lunch this time, there’s a note on it.

You look gorgeous, it reads. I can’t wait for tonight. – Rafe

There was no need for him to sign it but he did, and when you glance at him, inadvertently, you catch him looking at you.

Rafe smiles, and you return it.

When the last bell rings, you text him your address. Your friends don’t know about the date – if they knew, they wouldn’t let you live it down for the entire week. What they know is that Rafe kept trying to do something with you. Whether it meant to sleep with you or marry you, didn’t matter.

Not like you know either, anyway.

Rafe shows up at six on the dot, driving a car that you’re not sure if it’s his dad’s or his own. Could be either. He opens the door for you, lets you decide the music, and tells you he’s not letting you know where he’s taking you.

‘If you kill me,’ you say, ‘my friends know where I am.’

‘They don’t.’

‘How would you know?’

‘I know you’re embarrassed of being seen with me,’ he says quietly, ‘and I know you wouldn’t tell them we’re on a date right now.’

You manage to stop an apology right just as it’s about to fall from your lips, innocent and all too earnest. You don’t want to be sorry for keeping this a secret, even if Rafe’s done you no wrong.

He pulls up at a hill, in the heart of the island. There’s a bench right in front of you, no streetlights in sight. If he wanted to murder you, he couldn’t have found a better spot.

Rafe pulls the handbrake. Turns off the car. Looks at you with a look in his eyes that you can’t read.

‘I’m not expecting anything,’ he tells you, as if it were a secret. ‘Just so you know. If you leave still not caring, then… I guess that’s the way things are.’

There’s nothing you could say to that, so you say nothing. He leaves the car and goes to sit on the bench. For a few excruciating moments, you remain in the car, until your curiosity gets the best of you.

Fresh air feels like water on a hot day. You wrap your jacket around you tighter, aware of Rafe’s back turned to you. He’s facing the town, instead – from where you are, you can see the entire island. The lit-up Figure Eight and the faded-away Cut all the same.

The moment you sit down, Rafe looks at you. His expression is the one of quiet relief – as if he didn’t think you’d join him.

He notices you shivering. ‘I have coffee in the car.’

‘It’s nearly seven o’clock.’

‘So no? I’ve got tea, too.’

‘Tea would be nice.’

Rafe comes back a minute later, two cups and a thermal one in hand, as well as a blanket. He sets the cups on the bench and places the blanket on your shoulders, gently, with far more care than you’d think him possible. He pours tea into a cup and hands it to you, then pours some more into his own.

You’re surprised that he isn’t talking. You can hear the crickets in the distance, and some birds chirping away, too.

The calm is odd. Peaceful, if you dare say so.

‘You like the view?’

You nod. ‘It’s quite pretty.’

‘Yeah, it is.’ He lets out a shaky breath, resting his elbows on his knees, leaning forward. ‘I come here when shit gets tough.’

A chuckle passes your lips before you stop it. Rafe doesn’t look at you, but you see him tense. It feels wrong, so you clear your throat and ask, ‘Tense?’

He glances at you, but doesn’t speak for a while. You can’t tell if he’s gathering his thoughts or gauging whether you’re worth it or not. If you were him, you wouldn’t know what to decide about the latter.

The blanket around your shoulders is warm, so you wrap it around yourself more tightly, taking a sip from the cup in your hands.

‘Why do you think I’m a misogynist?’ he asks. ‘I get the others, but…’

You take your gaze away from him. The street lights look like little fallen stars, and you try to search for an answer within them – an answer to a question you’re still too afraid to ask.

‘Is it because I sleep around?’

‘Maybe,’ you say. He’s putting you on the spot and you haven’t got the answers he’s looking for, either. ‘You’re always with others girls, and you just let them throw themselves at you, like you don’t care about them. Like you use them and leave.’

‘When I sleep with a girl, she knows what she’s getting herself into,’ he explains. The words seem to fill out his mouth and come forth slowly, as if carefully weighted. ‘None of them expect anything more than a one-night stand. And it’s not my fault they throw themselves at me – the least I can do is give them what they want.’

‘So it’s all on them.’

‘Yes.’

‘You’re never the one pursuing them.’

‘No,’ he says. ‘When I’m pursuing someone, it looks like this.’

Gentle, you think. Quiet.

Two words you’d never connect to Rafe Cameron. Not until seeing him at the top of this hill, leaning over the Outer Banks, a warm cup of tea in hand, looking ready to pour his heart out to you. Ask and I’ll answer, it’s as if he’s saying.

You glance at him and for the first time, you think about him without stopping yourself. You wonder how much of who he is, is a front – the bad boy, the desirable one. There’s no doubt that he’s enjoying it, but how much of it is he working for himself? How much effort goes into keeping up the image?

If half of what he’s saying is the truth, then he’s just entertaining what people already think of him.

does that make a difference?

You’d like to think it doesn’t. He still sleeps around, then doesn’t look at them twice. He still pesters you, can’t take no for an answer, basically throwing you an ultimatum in order to get you to go out with him.

does it make a difference?

‘Does it make a difference?’

Rafe turns to you and holds your gaze. Even under the dim shine of a new moon, you can see the pandemonium inside it – he’s trying to find the answer to the very same question.

He sighs, then lets his head fall down. ‘I was hoping you’d be able to tell me that.’

‘Is that why you wanted me to come here?’

‘No,’ he says, no louder than a whisper. ‘I just wanted someone to try to see me for who I am, not who other people say I am. Guess I was wrong.’

‘Or maybe you just are what others say you are.’

The look he gives you is pained, and his face distorts as if someone had backhanded him across the face. His knuckles go white from the intensity with which he’s gripping the cup and, for a moment, he looks outraged – eyes bewildered, lips slightly parted – and then he blinks, and all of it is as good as gone.

A moment of weakness. A moment of seeing into the Rafe you had no idea existed.

You wonder if that’s who’s hiding behind the front – a boy of barely seventeen, maddened by the fear. You wonder if there’s more to the ‘things getting tough’ than you’d thought.

Rafe clears his throat. His eyes are fixed onto the street lights, far into the distance. When he speaks, his voice sounds the same. ‘I can drive you back now, if you want.’

You can’t tear your eyes off him. ‘I think I’d like to stay a little longer.’ He looks at you, face unclear. ‘The view is nice.’

The smile he gives you is tiny and modest, but it’s thankful more than anything else.

The one you give in return is kind.

Time passes, and the two of you do nothing but spend it together. He’s sitting on one side of the bench and he on the other, not touching, not talking, not acknowledging one another.

is he lonely? you wonder. This doesn’t look like a place he’s brought many people to, even if you haven’t asked. He’s always got friends around, but he didn’t hesitate to ask to have lunch with you, and you know how those football friendships tend to be – nothing more than convenience for convenience’s sake.

does he have any real friends?

Against your will, you pity him. You pity the boy who’d fooled everyone into thinking he had it all sorted out, yet his front shattered the moment he stepped out of that car.

A few more moments with him won’t hurt. Maybe he just needs someone to be around.

‘What makes you come up here?’ you ask, after nearly half an hour of silence.

Rafe frowns, then side of his face you can see stretches out into an empty smile, never reaching his eyes. ‘It’s peaceful. No sides. No obligations. No other people.’ until now – he doesn’t say it but you hear it, anyway. ‘No pretending to be who they expect me to be.’

‘Freedom,’ you say.

‘Yeah,’ he echoes, ‘freedom.’

Eldest child and only son of one of the wealthiest men on the island. Star quarterback. King of the Academy, prince of the Figure Eight, prince of the island.

Where does a royalty like that get freedom aside from place with no other people?

‘Why me?’ you ask.

He deserves some credit – the actually thinks before he talks, this time around. ‘You don’t like me. It’s nice, for a change.’

Your laughter seems fleeting, but it earns you an earnest smile from the boy. ‘That’s fucked up, Rafael.’

‘Tell me ‘bout it.’

‘Is that your thing? Liking girls who don’t like you?’

He shrugs, even laughs, a little. ‘Maybe. It’s nice when people don’t have expectations of you.’

‘I expected you to be a douche.’

‘Am I?’

‘A little bit,’ you admit, ‘but not as much as I thought.’

He smiles, his face turned to you. He appears to be shining a little, under the moonlight, and his hair appears far blonder than it is. He looks fragile, almost – you don’t think it would take much to shatter him into pieces.

‘Thanks, Y/N.’

You only give yourself a moment to smile before scoffing. ‘You’re still arrogant and self-absorbed.’

Rafe shrugs, but he does it with ease, as if weight had been lifted off him. ‘Nobody’s perfect.’

At this, you just roll your eyes.

The silence that befalls is comfortable, if not comforting. Neither of you talks, and you feel like you are finally starting to understand the boy at your side. One evening together is far from enough to change your entire opinion on someone, but it’s enough to shake it up – make you think of them differently.

You’re willing to give him a chance.

‘I think I want to go home now,’ you say quietly.

He nods. You’re back at your house one relaxing ride later, but you don’t get out of the car right away. The music playing on the radio is low and in the background; nothing is in front of you except street lights that appear to extend into eternity – it feels different than the world you left at the hill.

‘Thanks,’ you tell him.

‘What for?’

You look at him, gentle. ‘The tea.’ And everything else.

It’s the last you see or hear of him until Monday morning, when he shows up at the front door of the Academy just as you’re about to enter, holding to coffee cups that smell distinctively of tea.

‘Mornin’,’ he tells you, smiling wide. You greet him back and he falls into step with you, handing you one of the cups. ‘Tea?’

You take it – it would be rude not to. People are staring, again, and you realise you’d forgotten that you and Rafe exist outside of your small world on the hill.

Other people exist, too.

The two of you stand in front of your locker. He holds your tea while you take your books and put others away. There’s still some time before the first bell and, surprisingly, you’re not too mad about spending it like this.

‘Aren’t you worried?’ you ask.

Rafe hands you your tea back. ‘About what?’

‘People,’ you say, ‘rumours. Expectations.’

‘Not when I’m with you.’

It’s just a statement, just an answer to your question, yet it feels more like a confession than anything else. You wonder what it must feel like to be so open about one’s feelings – putting them out for everyone to see, everyone to do with as they please.

Or just you.

You tear your eyes off the students filling out the hallway, hoping they’d do the same. Rafe is leaning against the locker beside yours, sipping on your tea, looking at you like you’re the only thing worth his time in the whole wide world.

Your locker closes with a click. ‘You said I’d never have to see you again after the date.’

For a heartbeat, he’s the same boy you spoke to on that hill – fragile, angry, broken. ‘Is that what you want?’

‘I don’t know,’ you admit. ‘Thanks for the tea, Rafael.’

‘Y/N—’

Before he gets another word in, you march off, turning around the corner, making your way to your classroom.

Chatter is what you arrive to; friends unaware of your entire perception of a whole person shifting in a matter of hours. If people paid attention to your and Rafe’s exchange before class, the whispers hadn’t arrived to your friends, yet.

You don’t need to wonder what they’ll ask.

Instead, you wonder about Rafe – you wonder about what to do next.

He’ll leave you alone, if you say the word. You’ve learnt enough about him to know this to be nothing short of truth. Do you want someone like him in your life – someone who sticks to what people think of him like paper to glue? Do you want to see if he’s better on the inside than you’d think, kinder, nicer? If the Rafe you began to be introduced to at the top of the hill is who he truly is?

You wish the answer were no. Things would be easier.

Instead, come lunch time, the rumours have reached your friends, and you don’t deny them this time around. Yes, Rafe Cameron brought you tea in the morning. Yes, you were semi-nice to him.

Yes, you plan on talking to him again.

So, come lunch time, you are the one to approach him. He’s sitting with his football group that includes Topper and Kelce, two of the biggest airheads—in your humble opinion—Kildare has ever seen.

He doesn’t notice you, because you walk up behind him, until Topper nods in your direction. Rafe raises his eyes to meet yours and you see the shape of his face change – soften. Rafe from the Academy morphing with the Rafe from the hill.

‘Rafael,’ you say. ‘You want to get some real food after school?’

The eyes of the people burn into the back of your head – little daggers, stabbing at your privacy, privy to what’s none of your business.

His lips stretch into a smile. It suits him, you think.

‘Meet me at my car?’

You nod. ‘See ya.’

In your head, the entire cafeteria watches the exchange with googling eyes. In reality, maybe a few people noticed. Your friends did – for the better or for worse, you’re unsure.

As agreed, Rafe waits for you outside the building, on the adjacent parking lot. He’s leaning against the very same car he picked you up in last Friday, arms crossed over his chest, one ankle over the other, a lazy smile etched into his cheekbones.

If anyone watches, you don’t notice. You try not to. He opens the door for you and when he finally drives away, after making a bit of small talk about your day—is it small talk or does he… care?—he pulls up at the Wreck. Something you’d always been told was for the tourists, not the locals.

‘Odd choice,’ you note.

‘It’s quiet.’

He leaves the car and by the time you’ve taken your phone out of your bag, he’s holding the door open for you. You thank him and watch him do the same for the entrance into the restaurant, a bubbling feeling inside your chest.

It doesn’t feel forced. It doesn’t feel out of place.

If anything, it feels right.

When you enter the restaurant and chatter fills out every inch of the place, you understand what Rafe meant by quiet. It’s where the two of you can have your own conversation, with a guarantee of seeing nobody you recognise, and the tourists that are coming around for the beginning of the winter season are loud enough that whatever you say, remains between the two of you.

Rafe orders for you. You make him take a guess and he stares at you for a hot second before ordering something that you already know you’d like. ‘How did you know?’

He gives a nonchalant shrug. ‘I was getting you lunch for a week. Kind of figured out what you like.’

The sentiment is small, but it’s still here. You can’t stop the smile in your cheeks.

‘I thought you said you didn’t want me around,’ he says.

‘Changed my mind.’ You twirl your finger around the straw from the coke bottle, noticing it’s paper rather than plastic, like in other Figure Eight restaurant. ‘I wouldn’t mind getting to know the guy I met on the hill.’

‘Is that your way admitting you were wrong about me?’

‘The most you’re getting is that I’ll say there might be more to you than I figured,’ you counter. He groans with his head in his hands, but peeks at you between his fingers. ‘You’ve still got to prove me wrong.’

‘Okay,’ he says. ‘I’ll prove you wrong.’

When he extends a pinkie to you, you can’t help but take it, not even caring about holding back your laughter.

In the end, you spend the rest of the entire day with him. You learn bits and piece, here and there – Rafe is like a puzzle you need to solve to get to the truth. He’ll never say his father hates him, but you see it from when he talks about their relationship, and how many excuses he has to make for Ward to seem like a decent father (you don’t have the heart to tell him that he’s failed, both of them).

A lot of things are noticeable only between the lines, and it’s something you learn over the course of the next few weeks. You and Rafe grow closer than either of you anticipated – a friendship forged out of unlikely circumstances. Him having his fucked-up childhood that makes him seek out approval from those who don’t give it to him, and you letting yourself care for someone who’s broken, seeing if you can help him fix himself.

You don’t fix him. That’s not what friends are for. But you do point out things that aren’t okay around him.

At school, he becomes a lot more like Rafe from the top of the hill. His smile is brighter and bigger, and his laughter echoes the halls with its fullness instead of sharpness. Even Topper and Kelce seem to be less of airheads eventually, and people don’t care that much.

His tagged section of Instagram isn’t being filled with any more pictures with random girls – just you. At parties, at school, at wherever you go.

He continues to get you lunch, even after you try to stop him. He greets the girls he’d slept with and he respects when you say that you don’t want to see him at certain times, even if he does ask twice.

He asks about you – a lot. It’s the one thing you’ve been wrong about this whole time, and it’s the one that’s taking the hardest to admit.

You’re at the top of the hill, just as you usually are on Friday evenings, before a party or whatever’s going on that night. Sometimes you’d just go to his or yours and watch a movie, go home or fall asleep together.

Rafe brings you tea. You take it with a smile, feeling his thigh against yours. ‘Thanks, Rafael.’

He watches you with fondness in his eyes. Sometimes you wonder if it’s reserved just for you – you never see him look at anyone else like that.

‘How’s studying going?’

‘Good,’ you reply. ‘It’s tedious, like it always is, but I’m getting there.’

The arm looped around your shoulder is familiar, and the closeness of Rafe’s body when he tugs you closer is familiar, too. ‘You’ll get into a good college, Y/N. I’m sure of it.’

‘What about you? Aren’t you supposed to be studying?’

‘Doesn’t matter,’ he says, and you take note of the bitterness in his voice. His thumb caresses your shoulder as if it were a lifeline, and you feel him relax as you nuzzle into the crook of his neck. ‘My dad will send me to UNC regardless of my grades.’

‘I’m sorry.’

‘It’s okay.’

Freedom, you think – the one thing Rafe longs for the most.

The one thing he says he only has when he’s with you. Freedom of judgement, of time, of future, of family.

Just you, and him.

You shuffle away from him, enough so that his arm falls from your shoulder to your waist, holding on. He looks at you with a wrinkle between his brows, lips slightly parted, tea cup in the other hand.

You smile.

And then you press your lips against his, your hands cradling his face. For a moment, nothing happens—you’re worried you made a mistake—and then he grips your waist and tugs you a little closer, his lips part and he kisses you back ferociously, as if you were the breath he’d been longing to get into his lungs.

Rafe rests his forehead against yours when you break the kiss, the taste of him lingering. He’s warm and soft, and you feel at home in the arms of a boy you resented not too many months ago.

Neither of you speaks. His thumb slips underneath your shirt, brushing against your skin, never travelling any further. His breath smells like tea and he tastes like it, too.

All you hear is breathing, heartbeat, and a bird singing somewhere far away, or right next to you.

Rafe lets out a quiet laugh. ‘I’m glad you don’t hate me.’

‘How could I?’

You hear him putting the cup on the bench, knowing it even with your eyes closed. The tips of his fingers trace the line of your jaw, resting on your neck, with only his thumbs gentle at the place where your neck meets your jaw.

He doesn’t say he loves you, and you don’t say it, either, but it’s one of those things that goes between the lines.

Rafe kisses you and you realise it’s enough that you no longer worry about people seeing you, and he no longer tries to be who they think he is.

‘Everything that’s ever happened to us led to this,’ he states.

‘To a boy and a girl, on a hill,’ you say, words slipping off your lips akin to a dream. ‘Just Y/N and Rafe.’

He kisses you with fire between his lips and holding onto you as if letting go would kill him, and for a moment, you feel it to be true. Your fingers are lost in his hair, pulling him as close as physically possible, and it truly feels like everything in your life led up to this very moment.

Rafe and you, against all odds.

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“Truth”-related asks:

Anonymous said:

I just watched truth and man, we didn't need any of that... I'm so tired...

Anonymous said:

Me after reading that summary: We coulda had it aaaaaaaaaaallllllll, decent wri-itiiiiiiiiiiiiiiingggggg

Anonymous said:

oh. lukanette breakup. how surpri— oh wait, no it wasn't.

bunnybunblitz said:

Me, skimming your summary of truth: life is a nightmare life is a nightmare life is a nightmare abort abort

Anonymous said:

Truth was a living nightmare, and that's the truth!

*defeated sigh*

Anonymous said:

The way all that just make me start disliking Adrien so hard wow I have enough of him so hard can they get ride of him for one damn episode?

Anonymous said:

Wow! Writers got on completely new level. They somehow made people to be annoyed with Adrien, even without putting him in episode.

My meme image of “I’ve had enough of this dude,” about sums it up.

It’s almost impressive???

Anonymous said:

I have the impression that you should slowly gather materials for "Treatment of Marinette S4"

You know, when you’re right, you’re right.

Anonymous said:

Hey there... Got a lil rant, I hope you don't mind in sea of anons you're probably getting. I guess if show didn't treat Marinette as their favorite punching bag and lukanette as a thing to get over with to be back on love square bullshit I wouldn't be this salty. We all knew lukanette isn't a endgame, but we actually care about Luka ans Marinette as characters and as a couple, and we knew there was a break up brewing.

But I mlb writers for setting things up, canonizing them over provocative tweet and leave them to dust right at the beginning of s4. And, oh sweet irony as they kinda accidentally made Lukanette totally better than love square (let's be honest if they knew what they were doing we wouldn't get any breakup from narrative and character development standpoint),,, because their heroine for once is loved and appreciated but that's another discussion and they hate that for her. Also, thomas arstruck can suck my toe.

I don't know what's your opinion on soulmate and destiny thing, but I'm totally in opposite. I remember The Good Place (love the series btw!) quote about how soulmates are made with love and nurture of people and not some cosmic forces. And to see how show is pushing for Destiny ™️ I'm kinda disheartened. But I guess I never really liked love square execution in the first place when it turned out that Marinette is butt of the crush joke for 3 seasons and there's 0 development from that. Like Thomas, that's not funny running gag. Thanks for reading! Hope you're doing well!

Thank you for the rant, and I agree!

It’s so strange how all their attempts to push for the love square just push me more towards Lukanette. How do the writers do that???

Anonymous said:

Yeah that point where she exclaims Luka in shock just angered and confused me. She LITERALLY transformed because Luka was akumatized. And her being shocked is only there to get her under the truth spell.

This episode is held together by knots and strings at this point.

Anonymous said:

Wow, "Ladybug likes Chat Noir humor." Then why every time Chat Noir makes puns, Ladybug looks like she wanted to strangle him on spot.

Ladybug = us

At that point, they should’ve just said, “[The writers] like Chat Noir’s humor.” Like--writers, please don’t use Ladybug as a tool to simp for your sunshine boy, it looks really pathetic.

Anonymous said:

Based on the ellipses you used I'm guessing you're not a fan of Jagged talking about the "Guitar is my only family" song.

Oh, no actually... I mean, I do because it’s there to torment Luka, but the ellipses was because of the intentional pause in the episode. Jagged was looking sympathetic

Anonymous said:

Truth was awful, the only good thing we got out of it was a Lukanette date (yay :'D) and we got to know Luka's father (although we all been knew).

Honestly if we could find a way to edit it so Luka and Marinette properly kissed then we’d just chop it out of the episode and call it the only canon thing.

asexual-individual said:

So, given that "Truth" didn't introduce the protection charms, I'm going to take a wild guess that they're not introduced until after "Gang of Secrets", meaning that Marinette won't get any close friends that it's safe to tell her secret to.

I was legit so sure that it was a guardian benefit and now I’m just left confused/curious about what causes CharmBug. Like, what, do you get CharmBug by purifying your one thousandth akuma???

Anonymous said:

I am absolutely positive no one quality checks these episodes before they’re sent out. Ladybug getting caught off guard on Luka being Truth even though she knows he was akumatised, and the horribly upbeat music playing as Marinette lies in bed absolutely defeated is so bad there’s no way this was double checked before it was sent out to TV stations

At this point, I’m convinced that they don’t care and are jamming through episodes as fast as they possible can.

cobraonthecob said:

I'm willing to bet that the writers go through critical and salt blogs just to see what the fandom's thinking, and then they think we're serious and they sprint with whatever we say.

guys please reconsider and also lower your alcohol levels

Anonymous said:

It was awful in general, but why add the paternity thing in the break-up ep? It detracts from, well, everything else and makes obvious they are copypasting fan theories instead of thinking of plot points.

I really do think they knew that Luka being upset over Marinette’s secret wasn’t enough to akumatize him so he needed something else.

Anonymous said:

Let me get something straight: The episode was explicitly about Marinette going on dates with Luka and that they were together. Yet Juleka is once again part of the shipping squad with obligatory "Marinette is only weird because she's with Adrien"-theories, and she's totally cool with that?

Yup! :3

guys I just adore mob mentality, did you know.

guys--

Anonymous said:

Ok, but the fact that everyone considers Marinette’s crush on Adrien to be her big secret is stupidly unrealistic. They KNOW they’re all aware of it - the girl squad even figured it out by themselves before they were told and think it’s totally obvious (as long as you’re a girl cause guys are clueless about feelings right). As far as they’re concerned it’s not actually a secret so they SHOULD be spilling the things they think only they and Marinette know. I mean, I can think of dozens of possibilities for Tom and the rest of the girls already, but Alya?

We had a front row seat to the damning secret Alya knows from back in season 1, but I guess asking this show to acknowledge continuity is too much. Still, the episode could have been so much more interesting if Alya had said, “Marinette’s the one who really gave Adrien the scarf for his birthday, but he looked so happy thinking it was from his father that she couldn’t bear to tell him that Gabriel hadn’t actually gotten him anything.” (I suppose reminding people of that wouldn’t fit into the writers’ poor attempts to make Gabriel sympathetic though 🙄).

Lol, just imagine the entire battle being sidetracked by Luka being brought to tears by how selfless and sweet his girlfriend is while Shadow Moth is too distracted by how this will ruin his reputation to get him back on track.

JKHJDSKGFSG

YES.

ALL OF THIIIIIS.

THIS IS AMAZING.

Anonymous said:

Marinette deserves to tell Luka she's Ladybug and have some support on her side tbh, it's disgusting to see the writers breaking up clearly the only thing that brings her joy and peace currently

HONESTLY.

And judging from that one trailer, she IS going to tell someone her secret and it’ll probably be freaking Alya; you know, the girl who blabbed about her Adrien crush to Nino and is thus THE LEAST TRUTHWORTHY PERSON. (”bonus” if it’s before the amulets)

I’m having nightmares already about Alya distrusting Lila because Marinette is Ladybug and not because Alya believes in Marinette. DX

Anonymous said:

Now that it’s been confirmed (in the worst way possible) that Jagged Stone is in fact Luka’s (and possibly Juleka’s?) father, how would you handle the whole mixed family aspect considering Jagged and Anarka’s relationship, Jagged and Penny’s, Anarka and Penny’s, Jagged and Luka’s (and Juleka’s?), and Penny and Luka’s (and Juleka’s?)? Topics like mixed families and family relationships are something that needs to be handled sensibly and sensitively given how it hits home for a lot of real-world people. Since we obviously can’t trust the ML writers to handle such topics the way that they deserve to be, how would you go about it knowing what we know up to this point about each character on their own and how they interact with one another?

Luka and Juleka were “accidents,” but Anarka kept it a secret from Jagged since Jagged was already hyped up to go on his next tour and Anarka knew their relationship was crumbling (possibly he already dumped her as his guitarist and she was annoyed about it). Jagged eventually learns that he has kids and is hesitant towards the idea, but because of him doting on Marinette (who’s the same age as his kids), he opens up to the idea.

Anarka and Jagged in present are mixed between tolerating each other for the sake of their kids and being chaotic best friends. The bad blood died out a while ago and there’s occasional tension but because Anarka is a single woman not interested in Jagged and Jagged is single with a possible thing for Penny, they make it work

Anarka and Penny have an awkward relationship. Penny wants to schedule time for Jagged to hang with Luka and Juleka and Anarka is confused at the very concept of a schedule, like just take them whenever okay??? isn’t it easier that way??? and Penny is like, “...oh, I guess so?”

Jagged and Penny, it depends on if they’re in any sort of relationship. If they’re in a relationship, Penny is either open to the idea of him learning to be good with kids if she’ll eventually want kids with him, or mixed because these are another woman’s kids and it’s really awkward. If they’re not in a relationship, then Penny could also be mixed since she’s crushing on him but I could also see her either finding it sweet that Jagged wants to hang out with his kids or finding it a hassle to schedule them in.

Jagged and Luka is rough. Luka has so many conflicting feelings on his idol ending up being his father. Jagged will probably even comment on Luka’s shirt + necklace and all of Luka’s merch in an attempt to bond but that kind of comes off desperate/awkward and Luka’s not about that life. I could also see Luka taking all the stuff down and swapping out his shirt, but being hesitant to remove the necklace because it’s a gift from Marinette. He might try to wash off the signature. He knows it’s not Jagged’s fault exactly but Anarka seemed to have bad blood with him and even if they get along now, Luka’s bitter. Jagged meanwhile wants to connect with Luka because hey musician energy!! but is gonna mess up a lot and say a lot of awkward things. Marinette will probably have to be a middle man between the two because it’s easier for them to talk with her around.

Jagged and Juleka don’t have a significant relationship at first. Juleka never care who her father was and she wasn’t crazy about Jagged Stone like Luka was. Jagged does try to connect with her but they clash majorly due to Jagged being so “loud” and Juleka being so quiet. Jagged will see it as a huge accomplishment the day where Juleka says something coherent (i.e: not a mumble) to him.

Yeah though, keep in mind for all of this that I’m not a family relationship kinda girl, so this isn’t my forte (I’m probably the most sympathetic to Jagged out of the whole fandom; not to say I agree with his actions but I have a history of hating babies and children, so not cool of him if he ditched Anarka but like, I get it, doesn’t make him better but I get it from a non-realistic standpoint of “ew, parenting”).

Anonymous said:

You know what? Imma gonna ignore canon for a bit more than I’ve been doing. The only thing I take away from “Truth” is that Marinette loves Luka and Tikki looks adorable in hats. That’s it have a good Saturday! 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙

Anonymous said:

If there’s one small detail that I thought was genuinely cute this episode, it’s Tikki posing in the mirror with her little hat collection.

Ahaha, those are good takeaways!

And yes, Tikki looked good in hats, but at what cost. (guys, where’s our jealous Tikki episode where Tikki is jealous of the attention Marinette has to give the other kwami wait no they’d just make it Marinette’s fault go back go ba--)

Anonymous asked:

Am I the only on squicked out by how Adrien acts all noble and claims he would never force Ladybug to tell him anything, but when it becomes apparent that he has to ask her a question before the akuma can he goes all ‘what are your three favorite things about me?’ :3c I mean, he had decent amount of time to think up a bunch of innocent questions that couldn’t hurt her in any way like ‘what is your favorite color?’ or ‘do you like cookies?’ or even ‘what’s the capitol of France?’ But instead he basically demands she compliment him. Coming from a guy who spent most of the last two seasons refusing to take ‘no’ for an answer that’s a bit… icky.

THIS

He could’ve phrased it in any way and he used it to get compliments from her. :|

At least Ladybug asked a legitimate question about how he felt about her guardian status.

Anonymous said:

I had this idea for an episode: Luka finds out that Marinette is LB because he is in danger. Let's say he gets yeeted off a building by an akuma and Marinette (in her civilian form) jumps after him, transforms while Luka sees it (he's shook, obviously), she grabs him and saves him from falling. I think that would be pretty epic, do you think you could write a one-shot based on that idea if you feel like that? I would forever be thankful. Have a nice day!

I like the idea, though I feel like that’s been done a lot before in identity reveal fanfics.

Anonymous said:

You know, despite them all getting interrupted, I thought the attempts at Lukanette dates was really cute. Luka picking up Marinette from school, the two trying to see who is the biggest jagged fan, getting ice cream at Andre's, it's really cute! I only wish Hawkmoth and the writers weren't such dickheads.

It’s so adorable!

Like--show, you aren’t doing a good job at getting me off the Lukanette train.

Anonymous said:

Are you sure the Lukanette breakup wasn't Marinette's fault? I mean, the episode frames it like she's refusing to tell the truth, even if it's for a good reason.

I’m not sure when I said that the episode didn’t frame it as her fault?

Things are ALWAYS Marinette’s fault, it’s literally a rule of the show.

Anonymous said:

You know the truth episode actually gives more reasons for lukanette in my opinion based of its description you said. Luka is ridiculously understanding and also almost manages to fight off hawk moth as well as taking probably a week at least for him to get to that and yet he, while he’s upset, still tries to be there for marinette. Also makes the relationships she has with her friends and family worse if the secret they think she has is that she likes adrien while dating Luka.

YES!!

And oh my gosh, I feel the friends and family comment so badly. Just throwing it out there, maybe you guys don’t actually support her???

Anonymous said:

How do you feel about Luka having no negative reaction to this whole "Marinette loves Adrien" thing? I understand that he isn't exactly the jealous type, but still, it seems weird to me that he just accepts it while Marinette is dating him. I love Luka a lot, but in this situation his reaction was just so unrealistic...

Honestly, I find it really interesting. Plus, it’s Truth who’s being told those things, not Luka, and Truth has other priorities.

And--I mean, I’m positive that Luka got into the relationship knowing that Marinette wasn’t completely over Adrien. She wanted to see if they’d work and he wanted to date her. It’s both of them being a little selfish in a way and I like that.

That’s why I think he doesn’t have a big reaction to the Adrien call. He seems amused more than anything, and Luka is empathetic also so he knows not to take Marinette’s stammering/mistakes to heart because she doesn’t mean them. We already had evidence of that in “Desperada.”

writingamongther0ses said:

Even if Lukanette had stayed together, I have a feeling Alya would complain that it's not Adrien...which could lead to a character growth opportunity for her when her complaining leads to Luka getting hurt when he overhears and becomes an akuma. But that's too interesting.

Interesting character relationships??? In THIS show???

never

Anonymous said:

After watching Truth the only thing I can feel at the moment is bitter. Not angry, not sad, not disappointed. Just bitter.

Bitter’s a good way of putting it, yeah. *sigh*

Anonymous said:

The fact that the second episode released managed to get a bingo really says a lot about how predictable the show's garbage fire writing.

I KNOW, RIGHT??

I knew the Lukanette episode would be a big card filler but DAMN.

Anonymous said:

I hated all of Truth, but perhaps the worst part was how hard they tried to remind you that, no matter how much of a good time Marinette and Luka have together, it's Adrien who Marinette will end up with in the end. From Alya rudely insinuating "girl, you're acting stupid, is Adrien at your house?", to Luka receiving a PICTURE of Adrien from a kwami, to Marinette talking on the phone with Luka while her Adrien pictures are in the background, to Marinette CALLING LUKA ADRIEN, to Truth demanding that people tell him Marinette's secret, only for them ALL to say "She's in love with Adrien Agreste.".

It's absolutely anger-inducing because it tries too hard to let the audience know to forget about Luka because Adrien is lurking in the corner and he and Marinette are endgame. The fans are right, Luka IS a second choice, but not in the way they think. Luka's a second choice, not for Marinette, but for the Miraculous Ladybug world. for the WRITERS!!!

But what bothers me the most is that everyone saying that Marinette loves Adrien is accepted as truth even when Marinette herself says she's over Adrien. Her words are ignored, how she feels is ignored, because everyone else(including the girl squad, when they're supposed to be her "friends") tells her that she's supposed to be in love with Adrien, and so she "has" to go along with it because ENDGAME. It's the show saying "stupid naive Marinette, you're too immature and dumb to know how you really feel, let someone else do the thinking for you!"

Meanwhile Adrien moving on with Kagami is accepted even when he still flirts with Ladybug(and forces her to build up his ego when he asks her what she admires most about him; I know it was a spur of the moment thing, but meta-wise, it was obvious love square pushing.), because "he's trying to respect her feelings and date someone else!" It's one of the main gripes I have with the show: that teenage girls are too emotional and confused to know what they really want, but teenage boys are mature and rational enough to make up their minds about who they love without holding any animosity towards anyone.

The all-white, all-male writing team pushes the Chinese girl's feelings aside and forces her to hide and erase them if they're not want they want her to feel, while the white boy gets congratulated with a pat on the back for doing the bare minimum and always, ALWAYS, takes the moral high ground(even in superhero form when he's supposedly goofy.). When she's the lead.

"Luka's a second choice, not for Marinette, but for the Miraculous Ladybug world. for the WRITERS!!!“

LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK

It’s just tiring. It’s not even me being sick of the love square, but it being forced into everything when it’s not even relevant. The episode strategically throws more and more of Marinette’s Adrien crush (I did the math, I know this) into the mix and it provides nothing but the same tired jokes. Heck, they keep leaning on the lucky charm Marinette let him borrow (not GAVE, let him BORROW) back in Season 1 because they basically have nothing else to go off of.

#category: salt #episode: Truth #other: ml spoilers #other: ask and answer

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artmakerproductions · 3 years

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‘Nother Owl House AU idea for ya... it being a Back To The Future AU

Once again, hear me out...

Since my Owl House/Ice Age AU has taken off and is doing so diddly-darn well, I shall share a potential follow up I may do in the near future (heh), maybe ‘round next year or so. It might be just me, but these two songs sound similar to each other. Idk. Does it? Let me know.

BTTF: (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ur57IunS9To)

TOH: (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fi9FaMyWxdE)

..Even the posters look similar too. Again, to me anyways.

Beta!Luz or Canon!Luz = Marty McFly: I’m unsure of which version to use because of a few of the rather adult moments from the film (drinking, sex, etc.). But I could just dial it back or something, but not too “kid friendly”. Luz is adopted, orphaned as a baby having been found an alley. The picture does not have the image of her siblings, but of Gus and Willow. Who, had she not been found/adopted, would’ve never of met them and been there for the photo. Despite no blood relation, the whole hitting your parental figure is still weird.

Hunter = Doc Brown: Since his family has involvement w/ travelling through dimensions, it’d be really simple to switch it out w/ time travelling. Here, the Future!Hunter is modelled after the founder of Gravesfield based and the whole, “Emperor Belos is actually Philip Wittebane and Hunter is a clone of his dead brother” theory. After travelling to the past, the Past!Hunter Luz meets is the Hunter we see from the show. He receives the vision of the flux capacitor after falling and hitting the sink. Cutting his cheek in the process, which is bandaged in the past, and is a scar in the future. Einstein is replaced by Lil’ Rascal, w/ Copernicus also being a cardinal bird.

Raine = George McFly: They seem to fit w/ George’s character.

Eda = Loraine Baines: Having picked Raine as George, it was rather obvious to have Eda as the love interest. Likes a bad boy/girl/whoever. It being what further draws her to Luz.

Warren Wrath = Biff Tannen: As you may recall, he had a thing for Eda. Figure I’d have it applied into this AU as well. Since both character’s tactics are straight up stalker/harassment basically. His cronies being younger versions of the guards.

Principal Bump = Mr. Strickland: Should be rather obvious.

Beta!Amity or Canon!Amity = Jennifer: Again. Obvious reasons.

Hooty/Owl House(?) = The Deloren: The flux capacitor I’m thinking of modelling after either the portal door or the big stain glass window of the Owl House (https://preview.redd.it/utj8zj88m0u41.jpg?auto=webp&s=29462bc1fdc21193e19c14cf319ad370115d1f98), w/ the DMC logo/insignia is replaced w/ Hooty on the front: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcRFKT3XgAAUYNM?format=jpg&name=medium and back: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcRFHUcWsAEYPPu?format=jpg&name=medium

I’d make this a stand alone one-off series, much like I intend for the Ice Age AU being, w/o any of the involvement of the sequels. As I feel that it’d take away from visuals of the time jumping. Specifically w/ Eda, Raine, and Hunter. That’s about it. Let me know what you think of this as again, would GREATLY appreciate the feed back. 👍

#owl house/back to the future AU #owl house #back to the future #toh #bttf #idea #crossover #au

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kaypeace21 · 3 years

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DID theory part 3: St novels/comics/spotify list analyses

*read part 2 of DID theory-first! You’ll be lost otherwise, seriously XD. First, I’ll say -I find the ST comics/ books as canon as the st movie inspirations . I don’t consider the books/comics ‘literal canon’ (cause they contradict the show ( like Max and billy meeting a year before s2 in runaway max - but meeting as little kids in s3, or El’s age being wrong in suspicious minds, in the d&D comic Will’s friends instead of him /Jonathan building castle byers, etc) .

So I think we shouldn’t take it literally - but more like the st movie lists - filled with foreshadowing/symbolism and other eastereggs (That the Duffers may have told them to add). So here’s some more (possible) alter / DID hints...

‘Suspicious minds’ novel

- Brenner equates k*lling rabbits to h*rting kids. And he’ll hurt (kid) Kali (the bunny in the analogy) if Terry tries running away from him . I wonder if Lonnie used a similar threat against jonathan? Jon could be giving only a partial truth to why he cried for a week (about the bunny story)?

-Kali “hops” like a bunny then talks about tigers obsessively (linking her to rabbits/tigers similar to the other alters/Will/Lonnie). Terry also imagines tigers and kali says to Alice they can all be tigers together.

- one of the only male psychic experiments (who can see the future) is gay

- Terry is into lord of the rings, like Will. Has her and her boyfriend dress as sam & frodo (m/m ship). Terry calls her and her friends “the fellowship”.

-when Terry/Alice were injected with d**gs -they hallucinated rainbows.yikes.

- Alice (like Lonnie) is a car mechanic. She can see the future like Will the wise and says “monsters of course my mind has them as long as they stayed in there, everything would be alright? Wouldn’t it?” (in her visions she saw the demogorgan).

(completed) graphic ST novels (by Jody Hozer) so far (+ other st comics).

*Jody Hozer writes all the graphic novels (every novel is 4 chapters each) - the will byers comic, number 6 comic , into the fire comic, and at the moment she’s writing the d&d series and the summer camp series (which isn’t done yet). Then there’s the occasional 1 chapter st comics not written by her.

- Number 6 has (the ability to foresee the future like Will the wise/Alice) and has an ab*sive dad.

When having a nightmare of the demogorgan ...she says as she wakes up “screw you dad” (another hint the demogrgan -aka in d&d means ‘deep father’ ...is Lonnie).

- when number 6 and others run they say they’re’ “rabbiting”(which yes technically makes sense but I found such an uncommon phrase odd.)

- The (summer camp and d&d graphic novels aren’t completed yet) but they establish d&d creatures are based off real life people the boys don’t like in real life. Or that d&d is used as an outlet to explain true events from their pasts -but they just give the true stories a d&d fantasy slant.

- Which brings me to the halloween oneshot(not by Hozer),taking place before s1. Will tells a scary story told to him by Jonathan, and originally told to him by Lonnie. Says the boys have to keep it a secret cause it was something he was never supposed to tell to anyone. Mike says he has to finish the story he started. It’s about a “ch*lld-eater” monster first attacking a boy near the quarry (like where Will was found) and attacking kids in a library (where Will was also found in s1).When the child sees the sheriff she bangs on the library door begging for help-he ignores her , walks away, and tells the other cops to never speak of what they saw as she screams for help. Because the previous sheriff was in kahoots with the monster. It def had some ... uh questionable imagery too 0_0

The vine in the mouth is also like the one in Will’s mouth (when Joyce found him in the library).And of course Dustin asks whether or not something like that could be covered up.

- In the “bully comic” (about troy) also not by Jody. We focus on Troy and his ab*sive dad (who encourages him to fight/ditch his best friend). The dad has a drinking problem (gets fired), calls Troy a “mess” , pushes him, and constantly encourages Troy to be vi*lent/macho. He pretty much tries sabotaging the relationship Troy has with his friend (which I could see Lonnie doing in the future with byler).The dad/troy is framed similarly to when Billy gives Max a ride home- after both ab*sers give bad advice saying not to hang out with their friend (after witnessing them fight in the school parking lot). Dad also laughs about almost k*lling a squirrel (a trait we see troy mimic)- and we see El feel guilty about k*lling a squirrel in s2. At the end of the comic- Troy (like Will) after making up with his bff james- moves leaving his best friend behind.

- (into the fire) Twins: (one was normal with no powers living in the real world and the twin with fire powers is trapped in a dark sunless “cold” world styled like a psych facility/medieval fantasy) . pics in link.She hated her reflection cause it reminded her of being betrayed by her normal non powered twin who left her behind in the ‘cold’ place. She’d call herself a ‘hunter’ who would defend herself and attack others to never be hurt again. Her powers being unleashed were described like opening “a door.” And she loves her twin deep down and just wants friends . And fire twin goes to the “other side” to reunite with her reflection and find happiness in the real world. *also there’s sunflower/bunny symbols which she lights on fire-which can relate back to Will/Terry/Lonnie etc. The twins = Will & Will the wise (mf)

Mirrors also connect to Will and Will the wise via the canon spotify playlists too.

Will playlist (song: mirror in the bathroom)-Mirror in the bathroom Please talk free.The door is locked -Just you and me.Mirror in the bathroom recompense for all my crimes of self defense.Cures you whisper make no sense!Drift gently into Mental illness.

Demogorgan playlist ( from perspective of Will the wise aka the mf) (song: are you dead yet? )-”polluted soul through a mirror I behold.Throw a punch, shards bleed on the floor. tearing me apart. but I don't care anymore.Should I regret or ask myself are you dead yet?Wake up, don't cry. Regenerate to deny the truth. The fiction you live in blindfolds your eyes. Disclosure, self loathing, this time you've gone too far.Or could it be, my nemesis, that you are me?

(*st ‘into the fire’ comic. the fire powered twin’s thoughts echo the song)

*I think this foreshadows the later plot points of mf (will the wise ) and Will interacting via mirrors. The fire-wielding twin and the non powered twin had a lot of mirror imagery. Including the fire powered twin (Who denies reality/and imagines herself in a fantasy world) punching her reflection because it reminds her of her non-powered twin. Here’s some cover art from the novels showing how much they emphasize mirrors.

*And in s4 movies Black swan - “the black and white swan twins (two halves of the same person-Nina)” had creepy mirror imagery. In long kiss goodnight the women with DID talks to her “ (supposed)dark 1/2″ via a mirror (in a dream). in ‘the visit’ the teen girl who’s dad abandoned her when young- refuses to look in the mirror (and it’s never explained why she hates her reflection). So yes I think we’ll see this in s4 or 5. We already see the mf take on the appearance of Billy when talking to him.

- Will in “zombie boy” comic is afraid he’s a monster.

also lets appreciate the lil byler moment of Mike and Will being the only zombies and mike comforting him. honestly , though, the characters were pretty out of character for most of this 1 ch comic (until the end) tbh.

- in the “d&d comic” mf is (possibly) described as a “protector” (aka like how i said the mf is probably a perpetrator alter- which are misguided protectors).

*update now that it’s finished... hinting Will created everything subconsciously.

‘Runaway Max’ novel (before s3)

(I didn’t get time to read this book unlike ‘suspicious minds’ -so can’t show screen shots of everything others talked about. May read it eventually)

-Max compares Billy to ‘her monster’ and a ‘shadow’ that will attack anyone that comes close (mf parallel).

- Dart k*lled a cat, El’s papa tried to force her to k*ll a cat. And Billy when seeing a d*ad cat lights it on fire for a “viking funeral”. A connection to WW (who has fire powers) and El & dart.

-Max and Billy both are into cars and bond over fixing them (similar to Lonnie’s interest in fixing up cars). And since Lonnie tried to brag to Jonathan about fixing a car up and Will is into tech it wouldn’t be a stretch that Lonnie and Will were into fixing cars together (like Max/billy who would hang out at a autoshop in Cali) . Similar to Will ,max says hanging with Billy wasn’t always so bad- which made things more confusing to her.

- Max compares Billy being beat up by Neil: to ‘punching a pocket of a baseball glove’. This is interesting since this book was pre-s3 which was when they established the connection of billy and his dad to baseball (similar to s1 saying Lonnie taught Will baseball).

-Billy’s friend is a nice ‘music snob’ . He tries distracting Max with music while Billy is burning the cat. Which reminds me of Jonathan trying to distract Will from their parents fighting in the next room-with music

- Max’s bio dad is a criminal who takes her to shady bars, and Max fears he’d ‘get bored of her’. Max also ran away from her mom to her dad’s 2x.Which reminds me of Jonathan thinking Will ran to Lonnie’s in s1.

-Max mentions how Billy misses his friends after moving out of Cali. And he starts acting even worse-after the move. Which will probably be the case for Will (at least a bit) when moving to California.

-Billy tells Max Neil isn’t his ‘real dad’ either because Neil can’t be a father to anyone.

-Billy also tells Max who (at the time ) is 12 years old not to act “easy” and breaks her best friend’s (Nate’s) arm over someone joking he was Max’s boyfriend and also cause Nate tried to get in between Billy bullying Max. Eventually all her Cali friends ditch her cause they’re afraid of Billy.And Ugh- why could I see Lonnie doing something like this in the future with Will/his new friends.

- Creepily Max says Billy doesn’t fool around with her like other girls not because of her age or being family. But cause she wasn’t ‘attractive’. This whole excerpt gave me the heeby jeebies,on so many levels, honestly. Almost like he’s jealous- and controlling her cause he doesn’t want Max to have any love interests. Maybe i’m just missing the context? But ugh... excerpt:

Will byers secret Files

-Hopper gets scared by a pumpkin-scarecrow. And in Will’s canon journal when talking about the mindflayer and his nightmares draws the same scare-crow , Hopper saw. There’s also a lot of s4-5 foreshadowing in the book... but that’s a post for another day.

Darkness on the edge of town (Hopper novel)

*didn’t get time to read this (except the preview)

I think it’s more foreshadowing for future seasons though- cult/supposed ritual k*llings, people being wrongly blamed for those crimes-like the hellfire club , most likely. (similar to the guy number 3 in the number 6 comic) saint john in the novel also has the same brain control powers as 3- similar to the mf. .” When a blackout plunges the boroughs into chaos, Hopper must escape the the mobs in the streets to make sure his family is safe and stop Saint John from fulfilling his prophecy.” I already talked about here- how the next few seasons would start having more religious symbolism/a future apocalypse (based on what we’ve seen in the show/s4 movies). Although, i think there’s quite a few differences between (the novel’s) saint john and Will the wise. Hopper is also a star wars nerd like the boys (alter hint)

Canon spotify songs (posted after s2/before s3) hinting at DID/ alter /lonnie stuff-

Will and Will the wise (aka the mf) being an alter

*Used Will and the demogorgan playlist (which i think has perspectives of Will the wise aka the mf, demogorgan, and Lonnie).

Besides the mirror songs previously mentioned...

Will (cold inside)-Doctor the problem's in my chest.My heart feels cold as ice but it's anybody's guess?Doctor can you help me cause I don't feel right?Better make it fast before I change my mind. Doctor can you help me cause I don't feel right?Better make it fast before I change my mindWell it's cold, cold, cold, cold inside. Darker in the day than the dead of night Cold, cold, cold, cold inside...Counselor give me some advice Tell me how hard will I fall if I live a double life?

El (ghost)-your ghost, the ghost of you.It keeps me awake.My friends had you figured out.Yeah they saw what's inside of you. You tried hiding another you.But your evil was coming through... living in the shade Your cold heart makes my spirit shake.

El (monster Lead me home)-I don't know what, what I was afraid of, I was afraid oooof...Monster take me somewhere...We walk in shadow.Monster lead me home.Where there is no place to hide.Stranger on the other side We walk in shadow.Monster lead me home.

The’ innerworld’/ other hints Max, El, Hopper, and Billy are alters of Will’s

Max (Logical song)-I know it sounds absurd. Please tell me who I am, who I am, who I am, who I am?

EL(Buzzcut season)-I remember when your head caught flame It kissed your scalp and caressed your brain ...nothing's wrong when nothing's true. I live in a hologram with you Where all the things that we do for fun . Play along (make-believe it's hyper real) But I live in a hologram with you.

Billy (broken bones)-Broken bones.Stay alone. If I see only what I believe -reality's bound by what I conceive

Max (Why can’t i touch it)-Well, it seems so real.I can see it.And it seems so real-I can feel it.And it seems so real-I can taste it.And it seems so real-I can hear it.So why can't I touch it?

Hopper (breakers)-Just to keep me from losing my mind .It's so easy to drown in the dream.Oh, and everything is not what it seems This life is but a dream.Shatter illusions that hold your spirit down ...From the inside, so it seems.Oh, I'm telling you it's all a dream It's all a dream It's all a dream It's all a dream It's all a It's all a dream.”

Max (comfortably numb)-When I was a child I caught a fleeting glimpse out of the corner of my eye.I turned to look but it was gone.I cannot put my finger on it now.The child is grown.The dream is gone.I have become comfortably numb.

Max (Kids aren’t alright)-Still it's hard Hard to see Fragile lives, shattered dreams...What the hell is going on? The cruelest dream, reality.

El(team)-Livin' in ruins of a palace within my dreams. And you know we're on each other's team

Hopper (denial twist) ( just change ‘she’ to ‘he’)-Just because she makes you feel wrong she don't mean to be mean or hurt you on purpose, boy!Take a tip and do yourself a little service...by playing a different role Ya, by playing a different role, oh.The boat ya you know she's rockin' it.And the truth well ya know there's no stoppin' it.So what, somebody left you in a rut and wants to be the one who's in control.But the feeling that you're under can really make you wonder.How the hell she can be so cold?So now you're mad, denying the truth.And it's getting in the wisdom in the back of your tooth

El (the story)-You see the smile that's on my mouth.It's hiding the words that don't come out.And all of my friends who think that I'm blessed.They don't know my head is a mess.No they don't know who I really am.And they don't know what I've been through

El (hero) ( pretty much alludes to El being a construct of Will’s mind similar to his juju zombies in the d&d story he wrote )-Who knows what you'll find when you look inside (billy’s mind)?Haunted beach (billy flashback), roll the dice.The zombies in the corner aren't amused (d&d ref).Play the part of the blushing bride...Out of view, cloaked by night...My spirit dims, but I feel the force"No longer in my hands," (loses powers) .I say to you .I could've been a hero, I could've been a zero.Could've been all these thingsI could've been nothing, I could've had something.Could've been all these things.And if I am unable, tell him that I'll try but underneath the table will spin the wheel and hope for gold. Oh, and where it stops, nobody knows.

Max (it’s real)-I don't know who's behind the wheel.Sometimes I feel like I don't know The deal.But when I tell you how I feel-Believe me when I say It's real.I skated on a frozen Sea.It's real as far as I Can see?

Max (Halloween)-Because your role is planned for you there's nothing you can do.

El (White rabbit... alice and wonderland/lonnie ref)-And if you go chasing rabbits, and you know you're going to fall...When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead.

demogrogan(Dimensions of horror)-Gaze upon the ancient face you dread (lonnie)... Passing through the doors, into Dimensions Of Horror. Haunting visions from the past, rise once more.Realms of darkness, terror, death and gore.Scream in fear, your sanity is lost

demogorgan (SCHORCHED)-Terrorizing madness. Vivid dreams. internal. Hallucinating the unknown. Abstract entities prey.Through superhuman abilities.Fragments of memory erased.

demogrogan (Calling from a dream)-the shadow king...seven spirits (7 ref) Swarming around his head.Close your eyes.Listen to my call. Our bond will bring us together again.I will wait for you. For our hearts still beat as one.Listen to my calling from a dream. (integration?)

Maybe a coincidence or a hint at Will having both male &female alters?Billy (dude looks like a lady)- What a funky lady...Oh, he was a lady.Dude looks like a lady. Hopper (turn the page)-All the same old cliches,"Is that a woman or a man?" Max ( rebel rebel) (this was on her her pre s3 spotify list + post s3 “wrapped list”)- you got your mother in a whirl, doesn’t know if you’re a boy or girl?

SHIT DAD/ AB*SIVE FAMILY

*trigger w*rning ahead for dark themes like s**ual ab*se

demogorgan (my children)My children I never loved them.Why feel that way when their existence is my business?My children...feral vessals of my selfinterest...So don't lean on me man 'Cause I ain't got nothing to give.Don't lean on me man 'Cause I ain't got nothing to give.My children they're right behind you My children they're gonna beat you.My children if you let them Oh, oh, my children.

demogorgan (black dahlia-window): I’m not quoting the lyrics you can just look it up. it’s messed up.Based on the 1st person pov of Gilles de Rais -k**ler and p*d*rest who also kidnapped a cleric.

Will (creature comfort)-Some boys hate themselves.Spend their lives resenting their fathers... hate their bodies .Stand in the mirror (another mirror ref) and wait for the feedback.Some boys get too much, too much love, too much touch.

Jonathan’s Playlist- We’re happy family: “Eating refried beans (poverty). Gulpin’ down Thorazines (pills for a mood disorder). We ain’t got no friends (s2 ref). Our troubles never end. Daddy likes men. Daddy’s telling LIES.”

Jonathan’s playlist-Enter sandman: “Don’t forget my son. Sleep with one eye open. Gripping your pillow tight, Exit light, Enter night. Take my hand, we’re off to never-never land. Something’s wrong, shut the light, heavy thoughts tonight. Dreams of LIARS and of things that will bite, yeah. Hush little baby don’t say a word, and never mind that noise you heard. It’s just the beasts under your bed, in your closet in your head.”

Jonathan (The killing moon-guy sings this)-So soon you'll take me up in your arms. Too late to beg you or cancel it. Against your will!He will wait until you give yourself to him...In starlit nights I saw you.So cruelly you kissed me... unwillingly mine.

jonathan (haunted)-You and I both know that the house is haunted And you and I both know that the ghost is me. You used to catch me in your bed-sheets just a-rattling your chains.Well back then , it didn't seem so strange...In the midnight hour..I was busy trying to charm that snake. When the sun came up we had no place to hide...You and I both know that the house is haunted yeah you and I both know that the ghost is YOU! You used to walk around screaming, all slamming all 'dem doors Well I'm all grown up now and I don't scare easy no more But you and I both know.

Hopper (Confession)-Now I'm on the low Confession, to a virgin ghost Admission, force you know.

hopper (Tomorrow ) Yeah, and back when s*x and amph*tamines were the staples of our childhood physique.

Max (Last caress)-I got something to say.I k**led your baby today.And it doesn't matter much to me.As long as it's de*d.Well I got something to say.I r*ped your mother today.And it doesn't matter much to me.As long as she spread. (Lonnie pov? Neil?messed up song to be on Max’s list)

hopper House of the rising sun- And my father was a gamblin' man Way down in New Orleans... And the only time he's satisfied Is when he's on a drunk

Max Poor relations-An attitude, no patience, he's paper thin.Talking over everything you have to say...Don't correct the things he said, what's the use?Can't handle violence.Can't handle violence.Learning to love the abuse you can't live without.Your familiar oppression, your daily injustice...That loser man that belongs to you, he's ruling you.

el (sweet dreams are made of this)- Some of them want to use you ...Some of them want to ab*se you.Sweet dreams are made of this...Hold your head up.Keep your head up, movin' on.

Max (Alternative ulster)-They say they're a part of you.And that's not true, you know.They say they've got control of you.And that's a lie, you know.They say you will never Be free, free, free

max In bloom-”Sometimes at night I let it get to me.And last night it had me down and feeling NUMB...And thinking back upon those days Way way back when I was young.I was such a little shit.Cos I was always on the run.Well you know just what they say-Just like father then like son.Don't delude me with your sympathy.Cos I can do this on my own.And this will be the last time-That I break down and wanna crawl to bed. “(since Billy has a playlist I found this song choice being on hers instead of his interesting- in fact almost all of Max’s songs are from the 1st person perspective of a boy unlike the other gals.)

Max (comfortably numb)-The child is grown.The dream is gone.I have become comfortably NUMB.

hopper (numb)-Honey, here I go again Down that crooked road of sin.My momma locked me out again And hung me high to rust under the rain I am NUMB( 8x)....Little bluebird at my window Sing a pretty song for me Don't you know that you can fly, fly, fly away Don't you know that you can leave I am numb.

other psych songs

Hopper (life of sin)-Every morning when I rise I look in the mirror (another mirror ref) and despise the sight of everything and all that I've become. The level of my medicating some might find intimidating But that's alright cause' it don't bother me none.

Max (Moon over marin)- “Dive in my scalding wooden tub (connects to mf/el)...There, wasn't that a nice visit?Don't forget, a psychiatrist is on duty twenty-four hours a day in the blue room...Drink plenty of water when you take these.Now you can relax.” ( I wonder if stranger writers saying to “drink plenty of water” is secretly a line said by a psych person in s4?)

Max (Feeling ok)-My doctor says that I should take it -At least I won't have to keep faking.I know, someday I'll find it-Where I, I least expect it.Today I know I feel ok.

Max ( Going gets tough)-.No home since the fire.Me and the ash can't settle down...So I sink another round-Placebo for pain.And there's no one for to blame . I refuse to accept-That my work is all in vain...Still always remembering .When the going gets tough .That the labor of our love-Will reward us soon enough.

Max (Comfortably numb)-Hello? (Hello? Hello? Hello?)Is there anybody in there?Just nod if you can hear me.Is there anyone home?Come on now-I hear you're feeling down.Well I can ease your pain .Get you on your feet again.Relax // Now I've got that feeling once again.I can't explain . you would not understand.This is not how I am. I have become comfortably numb.I have become comfortably numb //Okay (okay, okay, okay)Just a little pinprick.There'll be no more, ah .But you may feel a little sick.Can you stand up?I do believe it's working, good.That'll keep you going through the show.Come on it's time to go// Your lips move but I can't hear what you're saying.

Explanations of Why the mf (WIll the wise)behaves the way he does

demogorgan (ww) (Cowards starved)- friends think of me as a priest.I had to show them that the weakest hands Can still make impressive fires. (aka MF = will the wise)

demogorgan (ww) (Unmerciful):I will be reborn...Tranquil demeanor.Now devoured.Surfacing malice...I can't reconcile the torment others bring unto me.I will not take any reproach.Turning the other cheek.Relentless hatred consumes.Control released.Absolved of all compassion.I am free .Look into my hate filled eyes and tell me What do you see?Surging aura of my rage Paralyzing you in fear.

Demogorgan (ww) (bodies-Beaten why for (why for)?Can't take much more.(Here we go, here we go, here we go).One, nothing wrong with me,Two, nothing wrong with me.Three, nothing wrong with me.Four, nothing wrong with me.One, something's got to give.Two, something's got to give.Three, something's got to give now...You're all by yourself but you're not alone...Driven by hate consumed by fear.

demogrgan (ww)-Orbs used as transmitters carry electromagnetic beams from above (affecting magnetic fields in the show).Silence, manipulated, tortured ...How immune is your system of suffering?Its in the blood of suffering (familial ref).Its in the blood.

Demogrgan (Monster)-I shoot the lights out..Whoa, just another lonely night...None of who you get it, ain't nobody cold as this.A zombie (will ref) with no conscience .Everybody knows I'm a motherfucking monster. Everybody wanna know what my Achilles' heel is? Love I don't get enough of it.

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