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Court case for the jokers punishment
So the joker got an infection and eventually kicked the bucket
Bruce is nutral if a little sad
Jason is pissed he couldn't kill him
And all of the other batfam are releived that the jokers not out and about anymore, and atleast the family fight on the joker ends
During a family meeting to discuss the jokers death a Lazarus pit opened up and a...butler? Servent? Footman? Who knowes! someone in a suit...
Oh and he was floating off the ground and translucent
The batfam were on high alert and instant attack mode, damian tried to stab the guy and ended up tumbling through him
Bruce walked up and intended to intimidate him, but the guy walked through him...and right for jason
:you are jason todd, correct
:why do'you care
:you are the jason todd killed by the joker and reserected by currupted ectoplasm, correct
:my death is none of your business!
:mr todd, as a victem of the joker you are entiteled to a say in the jokers punishment
The whole room got quiet, jason was freaking out but...also calm. The pit was reacting to this guy like...comradery? Companionship? It wasent negative but not positive either
Bruce was still trying to intimidate the guy into giving them answers
Tim and dick were just staring
and damian was making another swing with his sword
:w-what do you mean, jokers punishment ???
The guy pulled out a seat and told everyone to sit, he pulled out a file and put it in front of jason, bruce went to grab it but the guy slapped his hand away
:only mr todd and trusted members of the ghost kings high court may read it
That was the first time he acknowledged bruce and he didnt like being ignored, jason couldn't hold in his chuckle at B getting frustrated
Slowly jason picked up the file and began to read, the paper on the top was a basic file of jason todd before he died, age,school, adoption date, birth place basic things though the thing that stood out was the words at the bottom
Cause of death: joker
Following it was the date, time, wepon and location of his death
He flipped to the next page and saw a similar file to robin, the day he started training, his first day out, how he met bruce, an analysis of his fighting gear from that time, his patrol rout
And at the bottom was the same thing with the same information
Cause of death: joker
Jason was starting to worry why he wasent freaking out about this file he was kinda a numb giddy if that made sense, the batfam were all looking at him expectingly and the butler guy was just watching him
:why are you watching me??
: oh, you see, some ghosts tend to...loose themselves a bit when confronted with...sensitive information, I'm just making sure you wont panic
That got a look from dick and tim, bruce just "hmm"ed and damian was still glaring at the guy
Jason turned to the next page and saw another thing like the last pages, except this one was much more recent, age, height, the day he came back to the public eye,
But there was alot more concerning writing
Death date, date of reserection, level of corruption, death age, core growth, manifested abilities
Jason gave a look to the guy but didnt freak out, though everyone at the table saw the look and was starting to get concerned, jason didnt know what to make of the information let along what it ment
He turned the page and saw one for red hood, age, number of wepons, occupation, date he made his davew, number of times he tried to kill the joker, ect;
Jason tried to ignore all the things that stood out and gave him a sinking feeling and the pit had an...odd reaction
He flipped a page and rather than another log thing there were pictures, mostly id photos and things accessible to the public, but there were also alot of photos that looked like tim took them when he was playing watchdog
He flipped the page and read the following:
You jason todd, due to the crimes and atrocities commiced to you by john, kur aka:the joker
One week after the jokers death he will be tryed and condemed for his actions, and dispite the unusual circumstances surounsing your existence you are entiteled to a say in how the joker is punished
Due to your previous and current occupation you have much more sway over the outcome of the trial then most of his other victmes though they will still have their say
You will not be forced to attend any trial or judgement, as this selecting processes is voluntary and you may reject having any involvement in the case of the jokers soul, condemnation or punishment
And dew to your unique standing with parties that for whatever reason (the big bad bat, you know who) may want to joker to get a lighter sentence than diserved the batman will not have nor get any power or say over the conditions of the joker. he will not have any say and you do not have to lisen to him on any matters concerning this trial
I thank you for your time and any question you may have berry( the ghost who delivered this to you) will answer any and all questions
High king of the infinet realms: phantom
P.S: most people in the infinite realmes kinda have a grudge against the batman so don't be shocked if berry dose something to him
Jason closed the file, handed it back to berry and just...sat there for a good 5 minutes
:mr todd do you have any questions you need answering
l:... I've been out of the loop d'ya think you could...give the the details of...whatevers going on...and what court trial for the jokers soul?
:ah i can do that mr todd.
So 24 hours ago the joker passed away, dew to the ambient ectoplasm in gothem he bacame a ghost in the infinite realms
At jasons confused look he said he'd explain later
:the high king of the infinet realms immediately had his soul captured and he is currently waiting for his trial
The joker has killed alot of people in the infinite realms and they want their pound of fleash, and king phantom is beyond willing to give it to them
So anyone willing is going to his trial next week to condem him
You were killed by the joker and are under unique circumstances, in fact it was up in the air weather to let you have a say or not, but you were dead and thus entitled to a say in his punishment
Because you fought the joker and died to protect gothem you have a larger sway over the outcome than most
:... so what your saying is... i can fuck over the joker even when hes dead?
:yes
:hhahaha hell yeah!!!
Jason jumped up and started laughing like a lunitic, now it made sence why the pit was giddy, it knew he'd finally get his pound of fleash and B couldn't do shit!!!
Batman: that cant be fair
: whyever not
: he's already dead just let him rest
:after all the things he's done...never
: he's already been punished leave him be
That was the wrong thing to say as berry jumped out of the chair, knocking it over and jamming the table into the rest of the batfams ribs
:HES BEEN PUNISHED, WHAT WAY HAS HE BEEN PUNISHED
:he die-
:WE ALL DIED!! HE'S DIED, I'VE DIED, HELL YOU'VE DIED! That dose not excuse his crimes! Besids! What do you think he'd do in the infinite realms! Think you egotistical furrie a madman with no punishment, developing powers and access to multiple universes! Its a disaster waiting to happn you idiot
:it's still unfair, i will stop it
: how moron! you have no say in this you are naither a victme or a trusted member of the high kings court, you have no power
:then I'll talk to this king
:*snort* sure you will...mr todd do you have anymore questions?
Jasons giddiness froze at being put on the spot so suddenly he froze mid-cackle and had to stand properly before he answered berrys question
J: uhh... how to i get to the trial, thing on the right time
: a servent will escourt you,AND ONLY YOU, to the event. Good day and fuck you!!
Berry opened a portal, stepped through and gave bruce the finger
Everyone kinda stared at where the portal was, jason was the one to break the silence by giggling
: hahaha i still get to fuck over the joker and, for once, you can't stop me, later you egotistical furrie
Jason ran to his bike and floored it out of the batcave, he has to plan
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timeisacephalopod · 1 year
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I can't believe marvel's civil war seriously tried to tell it's audience that a team of (mostly) Americans with superpowers should be able to act like an international military police force with zero legal oversight because 'Gubmint Bad' and I guess 12 people having no legal oversight to their actions as an international force is fine?? That has got to be some of the most fucked up copaganda I've ever watched, and frankly I was shocked at how many people I spoke to fully bought into it too.
Like really, you actually think a small group of people almost entirely from one country should be able to act as an international military intervention team with zero legal obligations? If you think about that for more than 5 seconds it should be obvious as to why that's a bad idea and why America specifically would think that's a good idea.
#winters ramblings#this movies thesis is literally so fucked up??? it straight up says cops shouldnt have oversight#and yall believed it hook line and sinker because you Really Like the guy dressed as an American flag#the other Real Fucked Up thing goes to tony starks line about privatizing world peace#i CANNOT think of a more fucked up thibg then that W H Y#besus that the movie had to work SO FUCKING HARD to make the accords sound like a bad idea#and when you need to write the accords SO BAD that they all go to jail with no trials as if ANY world leader#let alone MOST OF THE WORLD'S COUNTRIES would ever agree to that then you KNOW youre playing stupid#if your shit has to be THAT bad to seem like oversight isnt good then youre purposefully manipulating shit#in a way thats not useful and says nothing politically except that youre uninterested in nuance or accountability#but marvel is copaganda so of course it has to say Cops Are The Best They Dont Need Limits- see look the government is WORSE#because the Whole World just wants to yeam up on america for no reason whatsoever they dont have a history of invading#literally ANYONE they hate to fuck their ekections and install rught wing terriristsas leaders bc better than communists!!#no no thats not why anyone with a brain would support the accords lets make it SO DELIBERATELY BAD no one would support it#but we wint even MENTION any of that in the movie no no we dont need to do that in the movie all about#this fucking piece if legislation why would we do good proper storytelling with ACTUAL reaaons for why the accords suck#reminds me of the joker movie with how much had to be pulled to make the avengers sypmathetic there#if you have to pull your narrative that hard then your story fucking sucks and so do your politics
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Character Flaws vs Writing Flaws:
While catching up on some of the stuff people have commented/sent to me, I noticed someone mention how Katsuki being a bully is a flaw of his and that not every character needs to be a good person.
First of all, when did I ever say that a character has to be morally correct to be a good character? Some of my favorite characters are villains who’ve done worse things than Katsuki.
So what’s the difference between them and Katsuki?
Well, the villains have a reason for existing. Joker is meant to serve as a parallel to Batman, challenging his morals while also showing what an unhinged Batman could look like.
On a much lesser scale, despite his extremely limited screen time, Moonfish’s bloodlust, lack of sanity, and cannibalism serve two purposes in MHA: to showcase Fumikage’s power and to give the readers an example of what the heroes of this world have to deal with.
Katsuki’s flaws are meant to show the flaws of a world that values raw power over morals, but he fails at this. The reason why? His flaws are never allowed to be flaws.
Katsuki’s aggressive and hostile nature should have him struggling to make friends, yet he has the two pillars of 1-A, that being Ejiro and Denkias described by Hori, immediately befriend him with no issues. His inability to empathize with others should have people wanting to steer away from him, but his instead 1-A loves him, Eri loves him despite being the last person who would, and anyone who doesn’t love him is seen as being in the wrong.
Katsuki is meant to be a big fish in a little pond, someone whose ego isn’t challenged until a certain point, and the Battle Trials were meant to show this. While yes, Katsuki has a mini-breakdown over the fact that he’s no longer in a class of people with weaker quirks, he has no issue claiming a spot as a Top Dog and he still continues to demean the people around him.
Katsuki’s aggressiveness is meant to be both a flaw and an asset. His aggressive nature is what motivates him to defeat the villain, but it’s supposed to cause him to have a one track mind when it comes to hero work. Rescue, teamwork, all of that is ignored by him to fight the big bad. His ego caused everyone to have a tougher time during the USJ, but is that ever touched upon? Nope. It’s just ignored. When Katsuki saved Kyouka, there was no buildup to it. It just happens. We never see him struggle with teamwork because everyone else follows him like a lost puppy.
Meanwhile, Izuku is meant to be Katsuki’s parallel in this department. He’s meant to showcase why too much selflessness isn’t good while also showing that a hero is more than just their raw power. Problem is, Izuku gets completely shat on no matter what he does. He goes after a villain to protect U.A? Gets criticized. Does his best to work with Katsuki? Gets blamed despite it solely being an issue on Katsuki’s end. Does everything perfectly? Nope, still not enough. Compared to Izuku, who always seems to be in the wrong, Katsuki’s placed as this paragon of heroic virtues despite the fact both characters are supposed to be two halves of a whole. They’re supposed to learn from one another. Problem is, Katsuki’s flaws are always ignored while Izuku’s positive traits are demeaned.
Finally, Katsuki being a bully is supposed to serve as a starting point for his character. He’s meant to grow and develop as a human being. Again, he doesn’t, or at least he doesn’t do so in an organic way. He never suffers consequences for his behavior, he’s constantly propped up and coddled instead of criticized, and he’s given some heroic moments despite there being no buildup to them. In the span of a month he goes from nearly killing Izuku to risking his life for him. Where the hell did that come from? Honestly, I wouldn’t care if Katsuki being a bully is his sole purpose for existing, but he’s meant to be more than that. This is supposed to be a well developed and fully fleshed out character who grows from his selfishness and is meant to show that anyone can be a hero, no matter their starting point. But when the development is crap and he hardly changes outside of some OOC moments, then his flaws cease to be flaws that he’s meant to overcome. Instead MHA treats it as him being quirky and misunderstood.
In conclusion, you just can’t present something as a character flaw and expect it to serve as an excuse as to why a character exhibits said flaw. You have to think of the following: what purpose does this flaw serve? Is it meant to be used to teach a lesson? Does it set something in motion, whether it be the development of this character, another character, or does the flaw cause the character’s downfall? The only thing Katsuki’s flaws does right is that they set up Izuku’s story, which again would be fine if that’s Katsuki’s purpose, but it’s not. Him being a bully isn’t something that he overcomes in a natural way. His redemption story is the equivalent of filling things out of a checklist without being fleshed out. Every time he screws up, it’s never treated as a screw-up. Oh he failed the hero license exam? Well so did Shoto so he’s not unique there, and the proctors still suck his dick even while he’s “failing”. Him being the reason for 13’s injuries? Never brought up.
Katsuki’s flaws don’t piss me off because they are flaws, but because the writing of his character IS so deeply flawed despite being a centralized character in the story.
Oh, and as always, someone can dislike a character for whatever reason they might have. If people don’t like Katsuki because he’s a bully, then they have every right to. What I wrote is a response as to why I think Katsuki’s a shit character and how it’s not because of his flaws themselves, but how Hori goes about writing these flaws.
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disniq · 4 months
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i havent read all of the comics post urban legends to gotham war with jason, but as far as i remember between them jason didn't really kill anyone? tfz is on my mind (he tried to kill 'bane' but didn't). i suppose he couldve been murdering off screen as well but i also have no idea if that's hinted at
anyway with tmwsl and the beast war stuff having him kill it means:
urban legends -> stops killing
gotham war -> is brainfuckedup by bruce. cant do shit
tmwsl -> joker unbrainfuckedups him, he proceeds to go ham and kill some goons/tries to kill the jokers
beast world -> still killing in larger amounts
so if bruce had left his ass alone would he still be in a holding pattern with the bats? way to fuck it bruce (though im happy. so.)
obviously the doyalist explanation is they probably realized jason was in a bit of a limbo atm and decided to shake it up again. but watsonian is soooo funny to me. good job b
Thank you for bearing with me anon, I'm finally free from work and mostly compos mentis at the moment, so!
My initial instinct when I got this ask was to disagree, because I didn't read Jason's behaviour in the last issue of MWSL as any more or less violent than he was in the earlier issues, I don't think he ever actually killed anybody in that run (though do correct me if I'm wrong on that), and I'm extremely reluctant to take the Beast World characterisation into account because it's a, uh... reductive view of Jason, at best.
But.
BUT!
As I was turning this over in my head, I realised why it was pinging at my brain.
It's because this exact thing *has happened*, back in RHatOs Rebirth.
Pre-rhato 25 my beloathed, Jason had been consistently using less-lethal methods in exchange for Bruce's implicit approval and regular interaction with the batfam. He specifically says this on panel in The Trial of Batwoman, this is a choice he chooses to make against his own beliefs;
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Detective Comics #975
This holds until six months later, when Jason shoots Penguin. And then Bruce famously snaps and beats the everloving shit out of him in a brutal and notably one-sided fight.
After which, Jason changes up his outfit, swaps the guns for a crowbar and a katana, and becomes significantly more lethal again.
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RHatO (2016) #25, RHatO (2016) #26
And when I thought about it, well. I think you could argue that each of Jason's more lethal spells are proceeded by an altercation with Bruce.
Brothers in Blood, where Jason plays a murderous, knife-wielding Nightwing to annoy Dick, is the first Jason story after the infamous Under the Hood showdown wherein Bruce chooses to cut Jason's throat instead of... doing literally anything else instead.
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And after working relatively civilly with others throughout Countdown, Jason goes full murder gunbats in Battle for the Cowl after Bruce's delightful little "you're broken and you'll never be fixed" hologram speech.
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Now, I absolutely do not want to come across like I'm saying Bruce is responsible for all Jason's more extreme actions at all, because I'm not about that lack of agency shizzle at all. Obviously Jason was already very much down to kill prior to his final confrontation with Bruce in UtRH, and I think he does genuinely believe some people deserve to die.
But I think this pattern of Jason reacting to Bruce's outright and often violent rejections by escalating the very behaviour that has Bruce repeatedly rejecting him is super interesting as a facet of their continuous cycle of abuse.
So regardless of Beast World, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Jason does lilt more lethal for a hot minute before he inevitably makes consessions to get back into Batman's good books.
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istadris · 4 months
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ok hear me out
luigi and king boo kinda have a batman+joker relationship - mianly in the fact that they created each other in a way
king boo kidnaps mario and forces luigi into a position in which he needed to show to others and himself that he is strong and beats K Boo which only drives him further into obsession and insanity
so much so that, like the joker, K Boo orbits his life around luigi
and it doesnt help that luigi can throw king boo around in lm3
I'm hearing you out and listening so well that now I have a Whole Idea.
Anyone remembers this episode of Batman : The Animated Series where all of Batman's rogues team up to organize a sham trial with Batman as the defendant, Harvey Two-Face as the prosecutor, the Joker as the judge, and as Batman's attorney, they force a DA who had been against Batman previously (blaming him for creating his own villains) to defend him ?
Anyway please imagine with me a similar premise where King Boo, finding out about how many other villains Luigi has wronged despite being a cowardly weakling, manages to gather them, kidnap Luigi and put him on trial for causing so many villains to appear or become worse : Chaos Heart host, triggering King Boo into becoming more unhinged, touching and freeing Lucien, giving a gateway to Antasma from the Dream World...
I can see two possible scenarios :
Option 1 : Bowser holding the role of the antagonist forced to defend the hero, and while at first he's enraged these chumps are forcing his hand and he's barely doing the minimum, the more the "trial" goes on, the more he learns about Luigi's exploits and slowly grows impressed ...but will that be enough for him to actually help Luigi ?
Option 2 : Mario is also captured with Luigi and he's supposed to be the main witness/attorney of his brother, with a cruel dilemma presented to him: either show that Luigi never meant to bring so many villains to this point, and paint him as the weak coward they claim him to be, or argue in favor of how he intended his actions, and make him "guilty" in this court of madness.
If anyone has more ideas to add to this plotbunny, I'm all ears!
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rebelumbrella46 · 13 days
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Joker: Folie à Deux
What if we're totally reading this wrong? Think about it:
That last scene in the trailer, with the lipstick on the glass? What if that's the first scene in the movie?
That's why she says... "I want to see the real you..." she's already trying to make him trust her. And you can see the moment Arthur turns into Joker (He goes from vulnerable to mischievous)
Besides you can see the sleeve of her shirt, it looks like a black suit, and her hair seems brushed and clean in the reflection of the glass
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Imagine Arthur meeting Dr. Harleen Quinzel early on and becoming obsessed with her. He starts daydreaming about her, imagining her as crazy as him. (That's why she looks so elegant and angelic in here, he's seeing her as his doctor while he's full on Joker)
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Harley is there to analyze him, to determine if he is insane or not, her testimony is what will change the veredict of the trial
Then, as the story progresses, we see Harley trying to understand him, investigating about him. Discovering some hard truths about his past and going from being her psychiatrist to feeling sorry for him and finally falling in love with him.
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Maybe she will also start fantasizing about him, about the Joker.
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Maybe she's struggling with her feelings and it's starting to drive her crazy, the need to understand him, to know that he's wrong, to know that she could condemn him or save him, to feel an obsessive need to be able to cure him, but failing so at the end the only way is to join him.
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Then we hit the trial scene, and there's Harley, decked out as Harley freakin' Quinn, blowing up the courthouse. And everyone is surprised by that (Isn't that the doctor? Harleen Quinzel? Not anymore)
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Maybe this would be one of the joint fantasies, when he is testifying.
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Maybe we'll have several court scenes. Turned into musical sequences
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They escape from the courthouse in the explosion. and if you look at the clothes they are the same as those we see in some leaked images
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So maybe something went wrong and Harley turned him in to the police, maybe she tried to frame him for the courthouse explosion. Arthur flees.
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Arthur is caught, thrown back to Arkham, and has his heart stomped on. He is in worst shape now.
(This is also a hint from the comics, the Joker escaped so many times and got caught again and so on…)
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Then we are shown the first scenes of the trailer.
They put him in isolation and when he finally comes out, he is surprised to see Harley back, but this time as a patient. (That's the meaning behind the long stare share between them, not a love at first sight moment)
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The headshot scene is a gesture that shows that Harley remembers all the conversations in therapy with Arthur, and a way of communicating that she is on his side, that she has not betray him but has joined his madness.
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And I think the end of the movie could be them escaping Arkham, blowing up the place like it's the courthouse.
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And the final scene is of them, finally dancing in the real world, unaware of the chaos around them.
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I apologize if this seems crazy, obviously it can't be that way but I would love to see a version where Dr. Harley slowly descends into madness.
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filthy-vigilante · 1 year
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As much as I love the idea of Jason and Bruce fixing their relationship and Jason being truly accepted by his family again, in context of the comics I hate it. Jason deserves better than the was Bruce has treated him and deserves a family that cares for him without terms and conditions.
In Batman and Robin vol 2 #20, Bruce makes Jason relive the trauma of his death, in hopes that he'll remember something that would help bring Damian back
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Bruce even lures him there under the pretense of wanting to work with him, and make amends. Letting Jason  believe that he's starting to trust him.
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When Jason explicitly tells Bruce that he doesn't want to remember his death, that he wants to move on from his past and his trauma, Bruce tells him that if Jason  cared about him then he would.
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Bruce goes as far as discrediting his involvement  in Jason's Trauma and acting like his own wants are above it.
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The saddest part of it is Bruce telling Jason, who dies at 15 and never got the chance to grow up, that Damian deserved to have the chance and thats why he had to be brought back
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Then in Red Hood and the Outlaws vol 2 #25, we see Batman brutally beat Jason over him shooting the penguin. Previously when Batwoman killed Clayface, Bruce gave her a trial of sorts where other members of the family were invited to the cave to talk about what should be done. With Jason, he told all other members to stand down and that he'll handle it himself. Then proceeds to beat Jason so ruthlessly that Jason even comments on how Bruce never even hit the Joker as hard as he's hitting him
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His reasoning for going after Jason, instead of handling the situation like batwoman's is because Jason shot the penguin on live TV in front of GCPD, but even then the severity of the beating is highly unnecessary and uncalled for.
The beating only stops because Roy comes to Jason's rescue, and helps Jason recover. Which was a fairly long period, with him being unable to get out of bed or walk around himself of nearly a month
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And even after this recovery time his injurys are still pretty severe, with his torso covered in bandages, arm in a sling and face still heavily bruised
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Due to Bruce's actions like this I want Jason to move on from the Bat family. Bruce may be a good parent figure to some of the others, but he isn't to Jason. The amount of trauma Bruce has caused and is connected to for Jason is too high, and vise versa.
Jason deserves his own family that welcomes and cares about him, and allows him to be himself. Letting him grow and change at his own pace and most importantly to heal. Currently it seems like DC wants the opposite of that by killing Roy and sending away Artemis and Bizarro but hopefully one day Jason can have something more than being the black sheep of the bat family.
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mydarlingbat · 7 months
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SEASON ONE OF THE BATMAN 1966 _ ALL JOKER APPEARANCES.
The Joker is wild episode #5
Batman Is Riled episode #6
The Joker Goes to School episode #15
He Meets His Match, the Grisly Ghoul #16
The Joker Trumps an Ace episode #25
Batman Sets the Pace episode #26
SEASON TWO
The Impractical Joker episode #21
The Joker's Provokers episode #22
Episode #37
The Joker's Hard Times episode #38
The Penguin Declines episode #39
The Joker's Last Laugh episode #47
The Joker's Epitaph episode #48
Pop Goes the Joker episode #57
Flop Goes the Joker episode #58
SEASON THREE
Surf's Up Joker's Under. Episode #10
The Funny Feline Felonies. episode #16
The Joke's on Catwoman. episode #17
The Joker's Flying Saucer. # 24
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Batman brave and the bold 2008 SEASON ONE
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Deep Cover for Batman! Episode #12
Game Over for Owlman! Episode #13
SEASON TWO
Death Race to Oblivion! Episode #1
Chill of the Night! Episode #11
Emperor Joker! Episode #18
SEASON THREE
Joker: The Vile and the Villainous! Episode #2
Night of the Batmen! Episode #4
Triumvirate of Terror! Episode #8
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Batman animated series. 1996
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Joker's Favor. episode #7
The Last Laugh. episode #15
Fear of Victory. episode #19
The Strange Secret of Bruce Wayne #29
Almost Got 'im. episode #35
Christmas with the Joker episode #38
Joker's Wild. episode #42
The Laughing Fish. Episode #46
Harley and Ivy. episode #47
The Man Who Killed Batman. episode #49
SEASON TWO
Trial. episode #9
Harlequinade. Episode #10
SEASON THREE
Make 'Em Laugh. Episode #7
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The New Batman Adventures (1997)
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Joker's Millions episode #7
Beware the Creeper episode #8
Mad love episode #9
/ You're welcome to tell me if i missed any episode.
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twistedtummies2 · 3 months
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Year of the Bat - Number 3
Welcome to Year of the Bat! In honor of Kevin Conroy, Arleen Sorkin, and Richard Moll, I’ve been counting down my Top 31 Favorite Episodes of “Batman: The Animated Series” throughout this January. We’re now in the Top 3 of the countdown! TODAY’S EPISODE QUOTE: “Look at us. We’re all freaks and monsters? And who made us this way? BATMAN!” Number 3 is…Trial.
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“Who made who?” This is not only a quote from a very fine song by AC/DC, but it is a recurring question found and toyed with in a variety of ways throughout superhero fiction. Do the heroes create the villains, or do the villains create the heroes? Does extreme heroic action, that which already tends to bend the law (if not break it completely) result in higher extremes of crime and cruelty? Or does the existence of such evil in the world beget the need for heroes who will go to greater lengths to stop them? Is it, perhaps, a hint of both, or could it even be neither and it’s all sheer bizarre coincidence; that these things would probably happen regardless? While basically every superhero franchise worth its salt dives into this question somehow, some way, at some point, Batman is one of the characters who perhaps most embodies this fundamental problem: keep in mind, most of Batman’s greatest villains – especially in B:TAS – only came on the scene after Batman, himself, arrived. Does his presence in Gotham in some way inspire evil, or is it the presence of said evil that necessitates his constant intervention? “Trial” is one of my favorite pieces to address this question. Originally planned to be a movie, the story was tightened up to be just another episode of the show (I think budgetary reasons might have been the cause, but I can’t prove or be certain of that). While one does wish the episode could have been expanded on in feature format, I think the final result more than stands up on its own terms. The story focuses on Gotham’s new district attorney (replacing Harvey Dent), Janet Van Dorn. She greatly disapproves of Batman’s involvement with law enforcement, not at all impressed by his many feats of saving Gotham City, and frustrated with Commissioner Gordon’s alliance with the Dark Knight. In her mind, Batman is responsible for the rise of super-criminals in the city, and she openly admits that nothing would bring her greater pleasure than to put the Caped Crusader on trial. As the old saying goes, “be careful what you wish for”: Van Dorn and Batman both find themselves captured by a horde of Gotham Rogues, who have staged a coup to take over Arkham Asylum, using the Mad Hatter’s mind control technology to brainwash the staff. The Villains reveal they plan to put Batman on trial: the Joker is the Judge, Two-Face is the Prosecutor…and Janet Van Dorn is forced to act as Batman’s Defense. The irony speaks for itself.
Where do I start with what’s awesome about this episode, aside from the obvious novelty of the premise? Well, for one thing, if you love Batman Villains, then you definitely will enjoy this story, because almost every major rogue in the gallery appears in some capacity in this episode. Some, like Scarecrow and the Riddler, are non-speaking cameos, but a lot of the others actually get a fair bit of screentime and some great character interactions and dialogue. Seeing all these villains bounce off each other, as well as our two protagonists, is just a great deal of fun. I also love all the little humorous elements and hidden jokes in the episode: things like the Mad Hatter being the first witness (a direct and subtle reference to the Wonderland books), the Joker being the judge (which I think may have been a reference to a comic, but could also be a funny coincidence), and the Ventriloquist & Scarface as the bailiffs (which doesn’t reference anything, I believe, but is just freaking hilarious). I also like the journey Van Dorn goes on in this story. She starts off as a rival to Batman, seeing him as a nuisance and a hypocrite who causes more trouble than he’s worth, and wants to see things done in a straight-and-narrow fashion. By the end of the story, she concedes that he really does have a place and purpose in Gotham, and that the ends truly do justify the means…but she still doesn’t necessarily LIKE that fact. To an extent, she reminds me a lot of Ellen Yindel from “The Dark Knight Returns” (and her surrogate character, Ellen Yin, from the later animated show “The Batman”). In Frank Miller’s graphic novel, Yindel is Commissioner Gordon’s replacement, and she basically has the same concerns and feelings as Van Dorn. She also ultimately comes to the same conclusion: sometimes, drastic measures are called for, and one should not judge what they cannot fully understand. I don’t know if this similarity was intentional on the creators’ part or not, but it’s interesting to note.
“Trial” postulates that, unorthodox and questionable as his actions may be, Batman does NOT create his villains: whatever grudges and fixations these renegades have, they probably still would have become bad guys later down the line without his help. And what’s great about this conclusion is, at least in the Animated Series, that’s absolutely true! Most of Batman’s rogues are created independently from him, or were already off-balance by the time he came into play. So many times in this series, Batman isn’t the one spurring the action on, instead he’s reacting to dangerous activity. So whatever influence Batman has on Gotham City…in this show, at least, it’s safe to say it’s positive. The twist that comes after Van Dorn has this realization during the titular trial is absolutely marvelous, as well…but I think I’ll keep that one to myself. Watch the episode to see how this case adjourns. Ha Ha.
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Tomorrow, I shall present the penultimate place in the countdown. Hint: “Are you the dreamer, or merely part of someone’s dream?”
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inthememetime · 2 years
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Fic Masterlist- I'll reblog every time I add a chapter or add a new WIP.
For all of these, feel free to interact with me about them! I may add/remove/change things based on your comments. Except maybe H(a)unted.
H(a)unted - AO3 link here. Summary: My most angsty/messed up fic ever! Are the Fentons Haunted? Or are the halfas Hunted?
Danny is shocked when he, his parents, and Jazz are taken to court by Vlad Masters in a custody battle. Ridiculous! Right?
Not as much as Danny would like to think. As the trial goes on, Danny discovers he and his sister aren't who or what they thought, that their parents are not as they seem, and Vlad, his enemy, may be their only shot at survival.
This story is told primarily through dialogue and epistolary storytelling as an experiment. Throughout the story, please expect body horror, illegal and nonconsensual experimentation on human beings, murder, and kidnapping. Mind the tags, please.
Darcy Lewis' Adventures Dating Dracula- AO3 link here. Summary: Follow Darcy Lewis and Vlad Masters as they start dating- and deal with everything from ghostly serial killers, the Things In Crybaby Creek, Politics, the Addams Family, and international spyassasins.
The Fantabulous Emancipation of Danny Phantom- AO3 link here. Summary: The Fenton family journeys to Gotham to get Jazz settled in her dorm at Gotham U. Things go a little sideways when Danny lets something ghostly slip, and his parents try to shoot the 'evil ghost' out of him.
Danny can't go home. But his sister's 18 and willing to rent a campus apartment, Gotham has a layer of ectoplasm so thick it's almost as good as Amity Park, and he's already made a new friend!
Harley was just going to get snacks for Bud & Lou, her hyenas. She did not mean to befriend a tourist, but the kid's almost as crazy as she is!
Join Danny and Harley in a journey of friendship, crime for good reasons, and kicking Vlad and the Joker's ass.
Jack, the DILF of Amity Park- AO3 link here. Summary: AU where Vlad doesn't lust over Maddie. No, he's obsessed with Jack, and since college (minus a 20 year gap), they've fought over the man's affections like two cats.
However, as Maddie would kill him in 2 seconds, tge shenanigans are more sitcom-esque competition, conolete with Danny begging for brain bleach multiple times, and Vlad realizing Jack isn't the only Fenton he's in love with.
Jack, of course, is completely oblivious to the fact his visiting very friendly people causes Vlad and Maddie to stalk him amd talk for once. Or is he?
Danny Phantom in Showghost!- AO3 link here. Summary: Tucker Foley was having a perfectly normal day- until he runs into Narrator, a ghost who is possibly as powerful as Clockwork or Ghostwriter. The problem isn't Narrator- they just want their book back.
No, the problem is the GIW. And the possibility that the town of Amity Park was sucked into a mini-universe outside of time. And, to add more problems to Tucker's day, he seems to be the only one who realises what's going on.
"We are on a timeline, though," Narrator said cheerfully.
"What?! When were you gonna tell me that?!"
They scowled. "Those idiots in white broke my book. If we don't wake everyone up before we run out of pages, everyone dies here."
Not Broken, Just Bent- AO3 link here. Summary: The sequel to Vlad & The Accidental Family Acquisition and Darcy Lewis' Adventures Dating Dracula, NBJB is a Jazz-centric fic about growing up asexual, and the trials and tribulations of being asexual in a very sexual culture. On hiatus until DLADD is complete.
Pending fics (planned, but not written yet, or in draft stage) will be added in reblogs.
Questions about the fics, suggestions, or just have aome ideas? Hit that ask button or ask me in the comments!
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alternis · 4 months
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so one thing with third eye au is i think it works if tim is actively disillusioned by batman failing to save him/his parents
but the current setup is Very Convoluted and involves. way too many players
like, even just in bullet points:
jason survives ethiopia, but comatose
bruce gets WE to start funding medical trials to try to find cure for his injuries
DI gets funding for a potential drug that could theoretically regrow lost/damaged body parts (they found a weird plant on one of their digs), turns out to have Bad Side Effects and a chance of mutating the animals its used on
DI pulls the plug on the research but is trying not to lose the funding
typical gotham researcher is mad his miracle cure got shelved, teams up with unethical DI corporate executive to try and scare the drakes into restarting the trials by having them threatened by masked men.
the threatening attempt goes awry and turns into a hostage situation, then gets worse when the batman is spotted nearby
batman is racing to catch the 'returned joker', who later turns out to be a copycat. (copycat joker was a real storyline that was running at the same time as rite of passage, something i did not know until after i plotted this part of the au)
batman sees police outside a building but continues chasing after the 'joker', thinking "Gordon's men have the situation handled" and the potential joker attack is more time-sensitive.
unfortunately a batman spotting means that, inside the building they've holed up in, the gunmen get jumpy and the drakes get dead.
batman discovers what happened the next day after the whole fake-joker plot is dealt with, and that a teenager boy has been orphaned, and so he immediately blames himself
he detectives and tracks down the disgruntled researcher, who uses a sample of the drug on himself, and Mutates, and they have to do a big comic book fight.
unfortunately bruce is still Not Doing Well (his son is comatose, his other son isnt talking to him, and his dead parent trauma just got triggered) and so didn't realise...
the corrupt executive was the actually dangerous one, as he'd panicked at realising somebody had been digging into the files/asking questions. and lays the blame on the drakes' son tim,
who has in fact been asking questions and digging into files because he does not believe the Official Story of what happened and, after discovering that batman was seen at the scene but didn't intervene, is having himself a little crisis of faith.
corrupt executive decides he has nothing left to lose, hires serial killer/hitman Zsasz to take out tim drake. tim gets lured to abandoned factory under the promise of getting information
The Big Scene Happens, Upon Which The Plot Hinges.
(shiva was following zsasz to see if he would be a worthy opponent, sees tim fight back against him despite zsasz landing a cut to his neck. tim turns on the machinery in the abandoned factory to create noise/distractions, tries to knock zsasz out so he can safely escape. but it turns out hitting somebody on the temple with a wrench. can kill them! shiva picks him up after he passes out from trauma and also the blood loss, drags him to a backalley clinic so she can offer him training after he wakes up.)
meanwhile, batman and the gcpd roll up at the abandoned building to find zsasz dead and tim missing, but with so much of his blood at the crime scene that he is presumed to have been killed.
what happened to tim drake's body? a real mystery for the ages, eventually forgotten by everybody except true crime podcasters and the eternally self-flagellant bruce wayne, (especially after he discovered the drakes were the family who sent dick his last family photo, and thus had a connection to him he didnt realise until after their deaths)
but like i dont know... how to streamline this. or what to replace it with. it's just. it's a lot right? it's a lot going on. (and im still not sure if i gave bruce too many fuckups at once, or if it fits with the "pushing himself too hard and missing things" state he should be in)
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sonicman66 · 3 months
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This one's not even a crossover, just an idea for a Batman story. \
Start off following the Joker breaking out of Arkham. Its a usual breakout, some props are used, there's a few dead or gassed guards lying around, he makes it into the city and he's plotting out his new heist/joke/evil deed. In the dead of night he sees oncoming lights and dives out into the street to commandeer the car.
And the car slams right into him.
In the car is a completely normal person, not anybody big or with a complicated backstory or anything at all, just Joe Schmoe realizing exactly what just happened. They look terrified and also surprised. They just hit the Joker. There's a beat, and then they put the car in reverse.
Cut to an emergency services dispatcher getting a call, has this weird tone of voice, but they've heard a lot and honestly nothing surprises them (until now). Convo goes something like this.
"911 what would you like to report?" "Yeah, I uh, I hit a guy. With my car." "Alright, i'll send an ambulance over with the police-" "Oh, ambulance won't be needed. I'm fine and he's- well. He's not getting back up anytime soon." Wince from operator "What is the location of the accident? Are you certain he's dead-" "Oh yeah, I made sure. He was getting back up after the first one and twitchin after the second, but the third one popped his head like a grape." "Are you claiming that you murdered this man?" "I guess so? The first hit was an accident, and kinda not my fault, i mean the guy actually jumped in front of my car shoutin some nonsense, but everything after that was to make sure he stayed down." "The police are on their way, please remain where you are and cooperate when they arrive, things will be much easier if you let them do their jobs-" "Don't worry, i'm coming in quietly. Don't think I'll be safe on the streets once the Bat learns I killed the Joker." "YOU WHAT?!"
Cut to the officers arriving on the scene, standing with the driver, staring at the Joker's corpse. They have mixed reactions. Some of them are acting like a party just started, and are celebrating, some are concerned for the driver, one of them offers to let the driver go and claim that they 'ran off' and ensure any searches for them get backlogged bc come on man-
But the driver is adamant. They want to be taken in, because if the cops don't bring them in, then Batman will, and they like their kneecaps to remain intact, thank you very much.
Cut to them in an interrogation room. They're getting the Nice Cops treatment from everyone that isn't outright cheering for them. Whoever's questioning them is being polite but also by the book, getting the whole incident down. The driver's explanation of their mental reasoning for backing up and hitting the Joker again is something like this.
"I'm not gonna pretend that I had some grand epiphany but when I saw him getting back up, I realized that at this point the best case scenario is that the Joker carjacks me and kills me quickly. The worst case scenario, he carjacks me and makes me the centerpiece of his next big thing, all because I pissed him off. If I drive off, there's no way he won't go out and try and find me and then i'm guaranteed the worst case. So I figure, 'what the hell, in for a penny' and decide to finish what I started."
When Batman inevitably hears and does a threatening interrogation/conversation, the driver isn't unfazed, but they're upfront about it. They don't deny Bats' whole 'You're a killer' thing, avoids the moral discussion. Instead, they just go "Yeah, I killed somebody, but I plan to serve my time. I don't think i'm some hero or badass because I killed the clown. All I know is that now nobody will have to wake up afraid that they'll be Joker Gassed on the subway, or turned into playing cards, or some other fucked up joke by a guy who'll get put in a paper prison after he's caught. I didn't do 'the right thing', but I did something necessary."
Pleads guilty in a trial if they don't go for first-degree murder, and quietly serves their time. Avoids joining any gangs or companies in jail, because "No sir mr. cobblepot, I'm not interested in joining your 'enterprise', whether it be legal or otherwise, I really just want to go back to a normal life, I appreciate the offer, honest-" and appreciates the various gift baskets they get (Harley sent a cake with a razor sticking out of it, Ivy sent a plant that was quietly returned, and they got one from Red Hood that had a note on it offering to break em out for free (rejected)).
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abujunayd · 2 years
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As a muslim man aspire to be masculine in a world that pushes you towards femininity.
Many such masculine traits are forgotten or at least very rare, especially from what can be seen on social media which in turn reflects the reality of what men of today has become.
Muslim men should be honourable, chivalrous, dependable. They should be trustworthy and men of "weight" who does what he is supposed to. Be a man of few words and one who's actions match those words, don't be a joker and a clown all over the place. Don't socialise with women, on and off social media and don't sit in their gatherings or you will catch their traits. Don't be someone who's seen joking all the time and when you joke with a brother let it not include any lies or deception because that goes against the traits of a mu'min man.
Do not let criticism affect you, especially if it comes from the dishonourable and don't jump at every barking that comes your way, brush it off and do not mind the people's rumours.
A muslim man should never be engaged in taletelling, rumours and slander, he should have self-respect.
Keep to your family and strengthen the bonds of kinship, be someone whom your family looks up to and come to for help.
Never let your family feel anxious even in times of need and danger, it is your responsibility as a man to make them feel safe.
Be there for your brothers in faith and let them know that the bonds of 'aqidah is thicker than that of blood especially in times of need, do not abandon them.
Do not be a coward because cowardice is despicable and of the most unmanly traits.
Sit with the knowledgeable elders and take naseeha.
Have gheerah, for Allah, for His deen and His messenger صل الله عليه وسلم, have gheerah for your womenfolk, for your brothers and sisters in deen.
Face the trials that come your way with patience and let them shape you, do not complain to mankind who can do nothing for you. Carry your burdens and mature with them.
Get used to a rough lifestyle and don't be picky because harsh times always follows good ones.
Go against the current and do not be afraid of being alone.
Always have self respect and dignity, be a Knight when everyone else is a fool and do not become of the lowly ones.
I ask of Allah to make us such men.
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Can you imagine uncle Gerry?
First of all rich family friends so cancer in remission or even treated.
Secondly Gerry is atleast Eye aligned so he'll know the secret identity which would save Tim a lot of problems.
Thirdly the irony of Gerard Keay no.1 hater of Jurgen Leitner because of mommy issues getting along with Janet Drake daughter of Jurgen Leitner and guardian of Tim Drake grandson of Jurgen Leitner (both of whom are also no.1 haters of Jurgen Leitner because of daddy issues and intergenerational trauma).
Fourthly imagine Dick and Bruce being like, "ok how do we tell Tim that his beloved uncle allegedly skinned his own mother alive?" (In case Tim didnt create a fake identity for Gerry).
Fifthly i think Gerry would have killed Joker, not even for anything personal, maybe he saw an avatar of desolation and it was on sight? Maybe he was trying to get rid of a Leitner and accidentally killed Joker with it? Maybe he kinda missed a Leitner and Joker got his hands on it which ended up killing him? All i know is Gerry probably doesnt even know who Joker is, he just sorta accidentally got him killed (Jason comes back and he's like, "well it is shitty that Bruce replaced me, but atleast he killed the Joker." And Tim is like "uhhhh actually")
Oh my FUCKING GOD YOU ARE A GENIUS
you know i have to write this now right? RIGHT??? God. I know what im doing in my downtime at work tomorrow. Holy fuck
Uncle Gerry who chooses to leave the Magnus Institute and is adopted by the daughter of his hated (one sided) enemy. He's brought back home to Gotham and falls in love with it. He's introduced to Tim as his uncle Gerry, and Tim, who thinks Gerry is the SHIT goes hell yes. Uncle Gerry lemme show you all of my cool stuff. And gerry is awkward at first bc hes like uhhhh weird small (11 year old) child who wants him to paint his nails black too. There is a goth child tim phase is what im saying. His cancer is also immediately caught and treated, and he recovers
Anyway after the accident where janet dies and jack is in a coma, he finds out that theyve put him down as tims guardian. And hes like. Uhhhhhhhhh. Tim is distraught but he loves gerry even though he keeps trying to convince him to take up a safer hobby than being robin. It does not work, so gerry basically activates his 'baby monitor' (using the eye). Both bruce and dick are like. Tim. Tim. Why does your guardian have a criminal record of -checks documents- SKINNING HIS MOTHER
Tim points out the trial fell apart bc of a lack of evidence and bruce is going insane bc there was evidence!!! There was absolutely so much evidence!!!!!! But tim is like. Nah. Gerry wouldnt do that. Hes cool.
And YES HE WOULD KILL THE JOKER ACCIDENTALLY hed be held up or something bc ha ha funny goth man and gerry, channeling his inner elias, commits pipe murder. Either that or the eye is like hey you wanna do something funny? unscrew this lightbulb. So he does. And later when the joker holds up the store or something an electric failure causes the bulb to explode and a shard lodges itself into the jokers brainstem.
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majorbaby · 1 year
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bit of a confession: i'm not too fond of "trapper thinks hawkeye is dead" because there's an implied "... and that's why he didn't write" which assumes that this is canon, and it isn't. We don't know if he wrote. It's left intentionally ambiguous.
I think it is valid to headcanon him as having not written because he thought Hawkeye was dead though, and I see why tbh because it's easy enough to interpret Trapper's whole unquestioning support of Hawkeye as his being a very devoted and loving friend. Why would Trapper do all of that just to not write to Hawkeye? It kind of only makes sense with such a drastic explanation and well, The Late Captain Pierce happens so soon after Trapper leaves. I get it.
"Isn't that splitting hairs?" Well, I think it was a deliberate writing choice to not tie up that loose end with Trapper. No closure for the audience, no closure for Hawkeye.
GFA delivers closure to everyone. Actually, this is why I think GFA is one of the best executed finales of all time. It's very well acted and directed and written yes, but it's not without its flaws, some of which I think are glaring. And just the format of it alone means it's hard to analyze as an "episode of MASH". There are things about MASH that imo, do not translate well from a 20 minute format to a feature-length film.
But before this turns into the Trial of GFA, let me say the reason I say GFA is a great finale is because it is a proper farewell to the audience from the characters, all their loose threads tied up. This is something we were denied when Wayne left the show. Confirming whether or not Trapper wrote undercuts the non-goodbye, just like confirmation that the 4077th including BJ and Hawkeye ever see each other again undercuts their goodbye in GFA.
Trapper is invoked by the narrative three times and each time it pointedly does not create emotional stakes for Hawkeye. The first time is in PoA, where the person who has the biggest emotional response to the Trapper character is BJ (huge L, grow up BJ). It's BJ who has the worse reaction to the destruction of the still, in what I personally think is the only redeeming moment for him in that episode, when he shows remorse for having damaged something he knew was precious to Hawkeye in part because Hawkeye built it with Trapper. I don't think his response to Trapper being home is a Trapper-exclusive thing, because BJ also says he's jealous of Radar being home.
In Depressing News, Hawkeye isn't torn up about Trapper when he mentions him being replaced by BJ, he's torn up about how the military dehumanizes people and views them as disposable. Even if we are to believe Hawkeye is shown to be still mourning Trapper's exit, it ought to be nothing compared to the grief he must feel over Henry's death. And that is without even considering that Hawkeye is demonstrably happy for Trapper in Check-Up. So it is a big stretch for me to believe that this scene is about Hawkeye ruminating on Trapper.
Finally the Joker is Wild. Hawkeye has some fond words for Trapper but the point of this episode apparently is that Hawkeye has been tried by a jury of his peers, found guilty of being The Worst, Actually and should suffer for his crimes. The other point of the episode is that Trapper and the early years are also the worst, which is ironic considering how Joker is at best, MASH as a pale imitation of itself.
I lied, there is a fourth mention of Trapper, in GFA but before I get to that, I want to mention the weird snub in As Time Goes By. It is technically a snub because they mention Henry and not Trapper but let the record reflect that this episode is also MASH as a pale imitation of itself and on rewatch I think Trapper would have hated the sentimentalization of his time in Korea. Idk what BJ and Hawkeye especially are doing in this one. The point of this episode is to invoke fond and soft memories of cast members past, so my theory is that they couldnt mention Trapper for this reason. Maybe they still hate Wayne or something but from what I understand it as Mclean they were properly annoyed with.
Okay fourth, in GFA, when Hawkeye for the first time since Welcome to Korea expresses some hurt over Trapper's exit. Or does he?:
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"BJ is not really what's bothering him" threw me when I first saw the script for GFA because i absolutely thought he was bothered by BJ leaving initially without saying goodbye. But whatever, point here is that if he's not upset about BJ, then there's no way he's upset about Trapper. Even before seeing this i found that line somewhat... well, if Hawkeye hadn't been through what he had been through and wasn't feeling so vulnerable and didn't have Margaret's shoulder to cry on prompting him to be more forthcoming than he might be otherwise... then I might call Hawkeye's lament melodramatic.
So all these examples show that I don't think the show was at all interested in giving us Hawkeye dealing with his feelings about Trapper post the first of Welcome to Korea. And you can imagine that had they confirmed he had written, or hadn't this would have engaged Hawkeye in that way.
I'm further convinced by the scene that didn't make into the show where Sidney asks Hawkeye if he'd heard from answer and Hawkeye has this infuritatingly vague response "He sent me a nail file in a cupcake". In theory Alan Alda's delivery might've swayed us one way or another but I can also imagine him saying it like a joke, of which he has no shortage of, that still wouldn't make it clearer.
The fact that they cut it altogether seems very deliberate. They did not want to talk about Trapper in a way that gave us any hints as to what their relationship (or lack thereof) might have been like after Wayne left the show.
And that's pretty clever, because it gives further further significance to Hawkeye's insistence that he and BJ have their goodbye. Hawkeye doubts they'll remain as close as they were in Korea once he and BJ go home, BJ clings to the idea that they will. Ultimately we do not know if they will. When asked if they might see each other again, Alan Alda maintained the ambiguity, (paraphrase) "they might, if we wrote it" which I personally see as "no" because they did not write it. But there is also "they might". It's ambiguous. Sucks doesn't it? But that is what fanfiction is for.
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If they let me write a Batman story it would start with the human trials of an anti-autism pill at STAR Labs. The orderly proceedings of medical science are theown into chaos when the Joker steals a big bag of blister packs because he assumes, correctly, that they will be to Batman what Kryptonite is to Superman. He sets up an elaborate soiree at the art gallery, to which he personally invites Batman via an exploding thematic object, as well as some foreign princesses for flavour. At the event Batman is tricked into eating an anti-autism pill hidden in a canapé.
After eating the drugged canapé, all of Batman's motivation and reasoning to fight crime disappear, and so he just gets on with things like a normie. This is an opportunity for the dastardly Joker to go on a crime spree completely unopposed.
But when Robin gets hold of a blister pack of the anti-autism drug and shoots a pill into Joker's tea from a safe distance with a slingshot, the Joker finds himself suddenly wanting to just get on with things like a normie.
With the Joker powerless and unable to maintain his special interest in Batman, Batman's own special interests return, so he dons his beloved cowl and throws the dangerous anti-autism pills into the Gotham river then intimidates all the pharmacologists involved into leaving the profession.
Later, back at Wayne Manor, Dick and Bruce enjoy a complicated board game and talk about how terrible it would be to live in a world without autism. There would be no Batman, for one. But also no Joker? Bruce comes up with something about duality and Taoism and Dick goes along with it. Luckily, the awkward moment is interrupted when Alfred comes in to remind the boys to eat.
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