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xavi-crown · 2 years
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01x06 of loki implies they weren't the only variants that went after kang. He's not some powerful being who created the universe or some shit. he's just kang, the one who found a way to travel the multiverse and somehow push his body to and back time. He cant predict what happens nor stop things from happening, only he can do trial and error. Maybe his variants died from that and there's some kind of catalogue on what happened next whatever. So when he says, they've crossed the threshold, maybe it's cus he hasn't gone past there yet like in video games when you do the level again and again til you get past it. Point is, this sylvie and loki couldn't have been the first and last sylvie and loki to have gone there and kang cant actually write the manuscripts of the universe.
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As it was…
As it is, as it always will be…
Director Herron has spoken. 😌
“…they aren’t the same person. I don’t see them as being like brother and sister.”
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“But it’s a buildup of all these feelings. … It was important to me that it didn’t feel like a trick, like she was deceiving him. …I don’t feel the kiss is any less genuine. …her feelings are true.”
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not-here-to-nowhere · 3 years
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Hearing a lot of people saying the finale was “bad”, “boring” and that Kang’s dialogue was too long. 🛑stop🛑 your bullshit just say you’re racist and go! Cause I sure as shit know if they’d cast a whyte guy as Kang my dash would be overwhelmed right now…👀👀You AINT SLICK! Majors gave us one of the most dynamic and mind blowing performances without fanfare, fight scenes or assistance. Just pure acting!!!!!! And you have the gall to say boring psshhhhhh cause you’re ship didnt sail WEAK 🙃
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a-whole-new-world · 3 years
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Wtf.... She scared the hell out of me ..
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Am i the only one mad about the fact that we didn’t get to see “King Loki” or ‘Glorious Loki’ in the last Episode ?
Why teasing it if not for showing it seriously ???
I feel robbed :(
I usually don’t participate actively in the Loki series negativity post but I’m really upset now ^^
Marvel i will never trust your teasers ever again. 
Misleading little scumps.
But Hey, the fandom is going to defend it self by creating art and AU and fictions and anything and everything you weren’t capable to offer. your loss Marvel. The fandom is better than you.
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anschovy · 3 years
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Sooo... I spend the last days avoiding spoilers like the plague just to realize, that my knowledge about the next Doctor Strange movie was the biggest all along? Cool.
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tricksterdreams · 3 years
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So... I just finished watching Loki 01x06.
This was all the angst with no happy ending and all the hurt with no comfort and it ended with a huge cliffhanger where everything is terrible.
I don't know how to feel about this but it's upsetting.
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“You don’t even know what you want.”
- Sylvie // S1E3, LAMENTIS
“All I know… is I don’t want to hurt you. I don’t want a throne. I just… I just want you to be okay.”
- Loki // S1E6, FOR ALL TIME. ALWAYS.
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“She’s not my girlfriend.”
Are you sure about that, Loki? Are you extra, extra sure about that?
Because you:
1. Joined a task force to look for Sylvie (even though you didn’t know her then) and entered the same tent she had just disappeared from mere seconds before;
2. Thought that she was you (which later she would disagree with and say “if anything, you’re me” but anyway) and therefore pretty darn easy to locate;
3. Wouldn’t at first accept the fact that she was superior to you (well, y’all are equals, and maybe she’s better than you, but we’ll get to that later);
4. Theorized with your new friend Mobius that she was hiding in apocalypses by stealing his salad and then proceeding to absolutely destroy it doing so;
5. Visited freakin’ POMPEII to prove said theory and then actually proved your theory correct;
6. Used a candy from the future as a clue to find out where she might’ve taken her next steps, and cross referenced it with the many apocalypses she might’ve been in;
7. Actually found an apocalypse that she ends up being in (Alabama 2050);
8. Went to said apocalypse to look for her (you seem pretty invested in looking for her at this point);
9. Found her first enchantment victim who then passed the enchantment onto her second victim (B-15, looking at you), whom you still thought was you;
10. Found her third enchantment victim who told you not to call her a Loki (which she’ll do again, don’t worry);
11. Acknowledged through her fourth enchantment victim that she was different than you for the first time (“I would never treat me like this,” you said);
12. Followed her through a Time Door back to the TVA after meeting her for the first time;
13. Somehow allowed her to get the best of you even though you probably didn’t mean for that to happen;
14. Grabbed her stolen TemPad and landed the both of y’all in yet another apocalypse, the worst one yet actually, one that she’s probably been to before;
15. Tried to shield her from a falling meteor, to which she said she didn’t need your help (I mean, did you have a reason to save her then?);
16. Called her weird (I mean, that’s funny as hell, I gotta give you that);
17. Opened a door for her and let her enter the mining shack first before you did;
18. Literally let down your guard around her (yes, you’re tired from all that running, but still);
19. Somehow didn’t even stop her from putting both her hands on your neck in an attempt to enchant you (it looked romantic as hell, dude, and how were you not even opposed to her doing that, given both of y’all’s antagonism toward each other?);
20. Told her mockingly “In my heart” when she asked you where you hid her stolen TemPad (I mean, you could have said literally anything else but you went for “in my heart”, okay, I see where this is going);
21. Kind of agreed with her when she said you needed her to get out of Lamentis, “you need me” being the key phrase;
22. Asked her where she was going, and followed her;
23. Acknowledged that she’s not a Loki (yay!), or at least the fact that she doesn’t want to be referred to as one;
24. Followed her into an abandoned mining town where you thought you could fool a resident who chose to stay (you couldn’t);
25. Let her get away with teasing you about your failed efforts;
26. Playfully grabbed her by the shoulders from behind as you used your magic to conjure up a guard’s outfit for yourself (which you looked absolutely hilarious in, by the way, that helmet did not help one bit);
27. Sat down with her at a booth on the train, just the two of you (I’m not calling this anything else other than a date, at this point, to be honest);
28. Told her a wistful story about your mother and how she taught you magic and how she believed in you;
29. Showed her a miniature version of the fireworks you said your mother once conjured up for you, in an attempt to make her happy (I mean, those are beautiful fireworks, and she likes them too!);
30. Playfully conjured up a feather and quill to tease her about saying “Love is hate” (she finds you funny, she just doesn’t want to admit it);
31. Asked her whether she’s got anyone waiting for her when her mission’s complete (well, she did give a sarcastic answer but that’s not my point);
32. Admitted to her that you courted both princes and princesses in the past as part and parcel of being royalty;
33. Disagreed on love being mischief (what does that even mean?!) and then told her that you might need a bit more of champagne to really get that line of thought going;
34. Sang (I’m sorry, serenaded is a better word) her a song about a fair maiden waiting for her beloved to return home (you’ll find out how prophetic that would be in due time, don’t worry);
35. Decided that a dagger was your best metaphor for love (what, does being inebriated make you better at metaphors now?)
36. Let her get mad at you for getting drunk on the train (tbh, that’s kinda your fault, but there was literally nothing else to do, so) and breaking her TemPad (honestly, how do you even break a TemPad when it’s hidden in one of your magic pockets?! How?!);
37. Asked her if she felt better after that frustration-fueled scream (I mean, that’s kinda the first time you’re looking out for her, because that’s about to get real routine);
38. Went along with her after she sarcastically suggested that y’all both should try to get the Ark off the moon, fully knowing the impossibility of doing so;
39. Bantered teasingly with her about enchantment;
40. Believed her on a dime’s drop when she said that everyone who worked that the TVA were Variants, just like the two of you;
41. Let her grab your hand before the both of you ran around the back of the Ark’s docking station in order to find another boarding point;
42. Asked her if she was okay after the both of you got knocked back by an explosion (aww, you do care for her, how sweet!);
43. Finally called her by her name just before the Ark exploded;
44. Apologized to her for ruining her mission and dooming the both of y’all to die on an exploding moon;
45. Sat and listened to her explain her motives for her mission, before telling her that though people like the both of you may lose in sometimes painful ways, y’all always survive one way or another;
46. Freakin’ COMPLIMENTED her (that’s a first), and while the both of you sat waiting for the explosion to wipe the both of you off the map, you took her hand for the first time after she put her hand on your forearm (lovely, by the way);
47. Looked longingly and sadly at her when the both of y’all were hauled back to the TVA for interrogation and then subsequently separated;
48. Denied, when interrogated (is questioned a better word?) by Mobius, that you and her are partners (ha, you’ll soon be, in more ways than one, if you weren’t already), with a look on your face that absolutely betrays your true feelings for her;
49. Couldn’t even sell your lie about meeting her to Mobius that he had to lie right back to you;
50. Thought she was dead and felt so worried for her (you should’ve seen your face!);
51. Asked if she was alive and then SIGHED IN RELIEF when you were assured that she’s still alive (oh, have you got it bad for her, and you know it);
52. Denied that she’s your girlfriend the first time Mobius teases you with that word;
53. Spilled your emotions and your feelings for her on the table when you told Mobius about how much you believe her about everyone at the TVA being Variants;
54. Didn’t even deny it the second time he called her your girlfriend;
55. When asked by Mobius if you cared about Sylvie, you didn’t know if “care” was the right word;
56. Straight-up told him, “I believe her” with such emotional conviction it’s hard to see it as anything else;
57. Nodded your head at her when the both of y’all were reunited at the very same elevators you met in front of (how poetic) and she asked you if you’re okay;
58. Literally had her back when the both of y’all fought the guards in the Timekeepers’ chambers;
59. Got distracted when she got knocked down to the floor by Judge Renslayer;
60. Were on the brink of telling her how you feel about her, telling her that revealing your emotions was kind of a new experience;
61. Decided the best option was to place your hands just by her shoulders for whatever reason;
62. Let go of her so that she wasn’t pruned like you were;
63. Admitted in a roundabout way in just three words that she was your glorious purpose (priorities shifted, eh?)
64. Proudly proclaimed that her being terrifying was the very thing that made her so brilliant;
65. Literally puffed out your chest when you said, “she needs me” (she will, much later, don’t worry);
66. Revealed that she’s the only one you do trust (oh, the way your voice just softens when you speak about her…);
67. Planned an unwise sneak attack (that would’ve involved stabbing a cloud, I mean…) on freakin’ ALIOTH because you believed that doing so would bring you back to her when you really had no idea whether it would or would not;
68. Ran down the hill you were on to reunite with her (classic reunion move, pity you didn’t complete it by hugging her, but I guess you’re not there yet) when she arrived by car and asked her if she’s okay (looks like it’s becoming a habit);
69. Hilariously tried to unsuccessfully argue, through telling her that you’ve been in the Void longer than she has (maybe for like, an hour or two? IDK) that stabbing a cloud with a dagger was your best line of defense;
70. Sat next to her and had a conversation with her, during which you…;
71. Said it was cold (whether it was or wasn’t, isn’t important), so you…;
72. Conjured up a blanket for yourself before asking if she wanted one as well and proceeded to deny that your budding romantic connection with her was the both of y’all’s nexus event;
73. Followed that up with revealing that your nexus event with her felt great, it was a nice moment (aww);
74. Proceed to deny it as another TVA lie (you really need to work on talking about your feelings!);
75. Reassured her that you don’t know what the both of y’all are doing with regards to this relationship you both have with each other;
76. Playfully wrapped part of your blanket around her shoulders (double aww, that’s the classic “I’m gonna fake yawn and drop my arm around her shoulders, y’all think she’ll notice” kind of move, and yes, she did, and she likes it) and smiled giddily like the lovesick puppy you are;
77. Acknowledged in a roundabout (and maybe not so subtle) way that she loves you;
78. Pledged to not betray her, to not let her down, because you’re not that kind of person anymore;
79. Adorably nudged her when you asked her what her plans were when all was said and done;
80. Suggested that the both of y’all could figure things out… “together”, you said (triple aww!);
81. Handed the TemPad she gave you to Mobius and told her, “You go, I go” (I mean…);
82. Let her take your hand before you went to attempt to enchant ALIOTH;
83. Interlocked both of y’all’s fingers while y’all were at it;
84. Walked hand in hand to the Citadel at the End of Time;
85. Asked her if everything’s okay after she becomes nervous before entering the Citadel;
86. Got really unimpressed when that creepy ghost clock offered the both of you a chance to rule the TVA together;
87. Stated that “We write our own destiny now”, cementing the fact that you and her are an item;
88. Warned her to not listen to He Who Remains;
89. Tried to stop her by warning her about the possible consequences of her actions;
90. Suggested that the best plan of action was to take a minute to think of whether allowing a multiversal war was better than the alternative both of y’all never wanted (unfortunate as it was to be a damned-if-you-do-damned-if-you-don’t situation);
91. Got upset when she told you she felt like you betrayed her (don’t worry, you didn’t);
92. Clashed blades with her even though you clearly didn’t want to;
93. Told her “No” when she suggested that you kill her and take a throne you never wanted;
94. Let her blade fall to your neck to get her to stop and consider;
95. Said to her that this feeling of revenge, bloodlust isn’t worth it because you’d once been in her shoes;
96. Told her that you didn’t want to hurt her (after acknowledging that she’s been hurt by the TVA for a lifetime) and that all you wanted was for her to be okay;
97. Shared a kiss with her.
98. Deepened that kiss (you know you did…);
99. Grieved the misfortune of not just losing her but also the outcome of recent events, knowing that what she had to do was her life’s mission that you’d previously supported her on;
100. Went up to a changed Mobius and told him by referring to her, “We made a terrible mistake. We freed the Timeline. We found him beyond the storm.”
And if that doesn’t say “she’s become my girlfriend and I’m damn proud of her”, I don’t know what does.
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Go get her, Loki. Go get Sylvie back. We’re betting on it.
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“I just want you to be okay.”
We all know that scene.
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I have to point out something about the Chinese subtitles because it makes this scene even better.
The subtitles read, 「我只想要你安然無恙」, which translates to “I only wish [for] and want you [to be] safe and sound.”
Which actually makes it so much sweeter and much more emotional, because remember, Sylvie had been on the run for her entire life, never entirely safe. She hid in the shadow of apocalyptic events, in the ends of a thousand worlds, which itself is dangerous, to hide from the TVA, which as we know, is also dangerous, if not more so.
A few minutes before this scene, Loki tries to appeal to her, saying, “I know the TVA has hurt us both.” And in this scene, he also says, “I don’t want to hurt you.”
What’s the opposite of danger? Safety.
Loki knows how badly the TVA has hurt Sylvie, how badly they have forced her to be on the run, over and over again, in sometimes increasingly dangerous situations, just so she can be free of the oppressive TVA.
Though we can see this entire scene as an outpouring of selfless love and concern from Loki, it’s really about Sylvie herself. She’s only known danger, the one constant in her life. And Loki, oh, Loki, you sweet, levelheaded, love-struck idiot, he tells her - while in tears himself - that all he ever wants, is for her to not just not be hurt by anything or anyone, but also be safe and sound, free from danger, where she no longer has to run.
Though she’s got her blade to his neck, she’s so overcome with raw and genuine emotion that she lets her machete slip from her fingers to clatter to the ground, and she kisses him.
“I just want you to be okay” translates directly to “I only wish for and want you to be safe and sound”, and if that’s not the most romantic shit I’ve ever heard Loki say to Sylvie, I don’t know what is.
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Sylki’s Theme Music
I don’t know if anyone’s talked about this yet, but in case anyone hasn’t, I will.
In large franchises, where two protagonists fall in love, there’s usually an entire theme song dedicated to them.
This happened at least twice in Star Wars - Across the Stars is for Anakin and Padme, while Han Solo and the Princess is for who else but Han and Leia, obviously. Composer John Williams wastes no time bringing this theme up whenever possible when Han and Leia have a moment.
Not even Dreamworks shies away from this - one example I can clearly remember is the first How To Train Your Dragon film, where there is a track explicitly titled Romantic Flight, where our inadvertent hero-to-be Hiccup and his crush Astrid are taken for a relaxing and no doubt romantic flight above the clouds at dusk. Composer John Powell also doesn’t hesitate to remind us of this theme both throughout the franchise, the series included. (Another might be For The Dancing and the Dreaming in HTTYD2 that’s basically Stoick and Valka’s reunion song.)
Now, having said that, I have to point out that twice in the LOKI series, there’s this little theme.
Titled Pep Talk, it first makes its debut in Episode 4, where after Sylvie discards the decapitated head of one of the animatronic Timekeepers, she proceeds to stand there awkwardly while Loki makes an attempt to get real honest with her. Though in reality it’s only a couple of notes, it’s being played in two phrases (0:00-0:35 and 0:36-0:50), by two very distinct instruments, both of them playing a mysterious melody in a minor key but in high tones, possibly to portray their romantic innocence and to give us a taste of what is yet to come. It only takes up the first 50 seconds of the track:
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=01YTt0MQgUk&list=OLAK5uy_kkdeYskELn5tfrjBn0fBEVUtyLyNJCYq0
But do pay attention to the 6-note mini-phrase that starts around 0:36. 
Because, it pops up again, in the track titled Stop in Episode 6 during THAT scene where Loki tells Sylvie all he wants is for her to be okay.
This two-phrase theme, which I must reiterate debuts in Pep Talk, makes its second but non-repeated appearance in the first 35 seconds of Stop.
Check it out:
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=ulWCRAWn_ms&list=OLAK5uy_kkdeYskELn5tfrjBn0fBEVUtyLyNJCYq0
The first 17 seconds are only a reminder of the theme that first played when a very nervous Loki takes hold of Sylvie’s shoulders in the Timekeeper’s chambers in Ep4, and then, from 0:18-0:30, it is also a reiteration, though not a repetition, that tells us that yeah, there’s something real romantic coming up. It’s pretty similar, because 0:30-0:37 is the lead up to The Kiss (you know the one) in which the entire orchestra is called up for a sweeping romantic theme. But it’s not 0:30-0:37 that I want to talk about. It’s literally the first 30 seconds I want y’all to pay attention to. This time there’s a quiet but persistent bass line, unlike Pep Talk. 
In short, these two tracks (0:00-0:50 of Episode 4′s Pep Talk and 0:00-0:30 of Episode 6′s Stop) are the only times in the soundtrack as a whole that this exact thematic melody is played (though I gotta admit, Ep6′s one is by far the more romantic variant of Ep4′s one, see what I did there?).
Meaning, that since Natalie Holt went all the way to introduce us to a musical theme that depicts the romance between Loki and Sylvie that pops up in not just one but TWO separate tracks, it would not be too far off for her to not just be hired again for Season 2 but also consequently develop AN ENTIRE TRACK dedicated to our favorite soulmates, Loki and Sylvie.
I’m not expecting this to happen, but if we’re talking about patterns here, what happens twice is bound to happen a third time, with the third time being the best one there ever is going to be.
And we know that sometime during S2 Loki and Sylvie are inevitably going to reunite, but how, when, and where remains an unknown for now. Perhaps it might not play when they reunite, but perhaps between a far happier moment for the two of them.
What I’m saying, is that once you give an onscreen couple a musical theme that plays not once but twice, with the second time being more romantic than the first, the third time is bound to be the most epically romantic shit you’ll ever hear in your lifetime.
So to all y’all Sylki fans out there, that’s something to look forward to.
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You know what we need in S2?
For the writers of Loki to successfully pull off a Han/Leia move with Loki and Sylvie by having her say something along the lines of “I love you” only for Loki to respond with “I know”. (I read a fanfic titled shelter from the storm, written by theonceandfuturecarpenter on AO3, where at the end, Loki tells Sylvie that he loves her, and she replies that she knows. So that’s what got me thinking.)
I mean, on one hand, you’ve got a tough and rogue survivalist princess who prioritizes her mission over all else, and on the other hand, you’ve got this halfway-flirtatiously mischievous romantic, and you know what they do? They argue, they bicker, and end up falling in love with each other.
Remember Empire Strikes Back? Leia kisses Han goodbye as he disappears through the smoke. It’s an emotional scene, and it’s sad, impactful, and likely went down in Star Wars history as the best and most painful goodbye between a couple who up until then had been an are-they-or-aren’t-they. Also, the bad guys are also in the same room, watching apathetically.
Think back to Loki Episode 6. Sylvie kisses Loki goodbye, and Loki ends up elsewhere. When Sylvie kisses Loki, it’s very different than all the other types of kisses we see in other movies and shows. Rewatch the scene, and see that the kiss is a couple of things. It’s small but dramatic, gentle but meaningful, beautiful but painful, sad but complicated, new but emotional, and soft but sincere.
Both scenes from Star Wars V: Empire Strikes Back and Loki 01x06 For All Time Always are painful to watch, and deliver an emotional gut punch because you don’t know, right after watching it, whether they’ll be getting back together, or if they do, when and how. Both sequences end up with the couple being separated, with their reunion being an unknown factor hanging in the air. Both Han and Loki end up in a bad and scary place, while Leia and Sylvie’s next steps are to look for their significant other.
What’s interesting is that for Empire Strikes Back, director Irvin Kershner discussed the scene with Harrison Ford. While Ford wanted Han to reassure Leia and tell her to not worry, the line morphed into one that had him tell his best friend “You have to take care of her.” This is because even though Han’s actual scripted line “I’ll be back” was ultimately not used, Kershner told Ford, “You can’t [reassure her] because you don’t know whether this is the end or not.”
Similarly, Loki cannot reassure Sylvie of anything, because of her need to see her mission to the end. He cannot say “It’s going to be okay”, because that is a definitive statement, and Loki cannot provide her with that surety. He does, however, tell her that he wants her to be okay. It’s not a reassurance, but it’s as close to an outright declaration of love as any variation of “I love you” will ever come. Loki ends up far out of reach from Sylvie, and so, according to Tom Hiddleston, “I don’t think [Loki] will stop searching [for Sylvie] now. He feels that this is something he has done, a mistake that he has made, and he’s invested in setting it right.”
Though Sylvie and Leia are princesses, they are by no means damsels in distress. They can rescue themselves AND others quite competently, which is why Leia went to rescue Han, and Sylvie may very well go looking for Loki (who, as we know for a fact, will go searching for her and stop at nothing to do so).
Loki doesn’t need to tell Sylvie that he loves her, because he knows that she knows, and she knows that he does. Saying “I love you” would undo the narrative dialogue framing progression by making it about him (which was made clear that that isn’t the case anymore), so instead, it (or something similar) could be said by Sylvie. Because if and when she does so, it would make so much sense for Loki to say “I know” because he does! It’s the truth! He knows for a fact that he loves her, and he also knows without a doubt that she loves him as well.
We really need Sylvie to tell Loki that she loves him and for Loki to tell her that he knows. 🥺
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Here are a couple of interesting quotes that concern the scenes from both franchises in general:
From Tom Hiddleston about Loki’s “I just want you to be okay” line…
“But [Loki’s] confronted with this huge disagreement on whether He Who Remains is telling the truth, and I believe his motivation is that he wants Sylvie to be okay… and if he believes He Who Remains, the idea that He Who Remains has actually been protecting the universe from something even worse, that Loki’s concern is Sylvie would not be okay in that other reality… that maybe in the multiverse, this series of alternate universes is worse for Sylvie, and Loki is concerned for her wellbeing.”
From Sophia di Martino about Sylvie kissing Loki…
“She kisses Loki to say goodbye and to get him out of there to save him.”
From Harrison Ford about Han’s “I know” response to Leia…
“I think she ought to just say ‘I love you’ as I’m passing by her. If she says, ‘I love you,’ and I say, ‘I know,’ it’s beautiful and it’s acceptable and it’s funny.”
From Carrie Fisher about saying “I love you”…
“When they first showed the dailies to the cast and crew, they used the live sound and so when I say, ‘I love you,’ I was body-miked and it was at the right level. But when Harrison replied, it came out a loud echo: ‘I KNOW!’ Well, the cast and crew laughed for about 15 minutes.… But it works because they actually can make the transition from that laugh into the fact that is something very sad.”
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