#lotr theories

[velvet4510]

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[elficially-done-with-life]

I'm currently rewatching the fellowship of the ring and I just remembered a theory that my ten-year-old self came up with when I first watched this movie. I still don't know how I came up with it, but ten year old me had the theory that Galadriel is actually Frodo's mother. No idea were that came from but yeah...

And now that I know more about tolkien lore I realise how WILD that plot twist would have been. I mean, it would have made Frodo Arwen's uncle AND he would have been of the line of Finwë.

#lotr theories #the fellowship of the ring #theory #frodo baggins #galadriel #lotr #lord of the rings #frodo

[lifblogs]

I have this theory that might be incorrect, but here I go anyway. I think Éowyn doesn’t speak Westron as well as some of the other people we meet in Rohan. Her use of the language is almost completely different, giving me the idea that she perhaps doesn’t know it as well. It’s also possible she was just given a very formal education with the language and hadn’t used it much since she isn’t traveling and meeting as many people as her brother. Actually I like this idea more because as her dialogue progresses throughout the story her use of Westron does change.

#The Lord of the Rings #Éowyn #lotr #lotr theories

[maedictus]

Boromir

#I love men in theory and I hope I can share it through my art with you guys #but I hate drawing horseback riding. it's way more difficult than it should be #boromir #lord of the rings #lotr #my art #art #tolkien #artists on tumblr #artwork #illustration

[tanoraqui]

Theory: Elrond effectively wears headlamps like a Dad(TM)

Proof:

Elrond, at least on semi-formal occasions, wears “a star upon his forehead” (RotK book 6, ch.9)—that is, presumably, a pale glowing gem on some sort of coronet. This comes across as very classically Elvish (light, jewelry, star imagery), and a nigh-explicit reference to his father Eärendil. However…

Elrond’s children don’t see as well as Elves, as cited here. If his children don’t, then Elrond, even less Elvish by blood, certainly doesn’t. Now, I will admit that I forget if “Elves can see in the dark” is canon or very popular, D&D-enabled fanon, but it certainly makes sense considering that Elves flourished for centuries or millennia under just starlight, before daylight even existed…and it’s equally reasonable to assume that half-elven night vision is as relatively “weak” as their cited distance vision.

Elrond is the proud father of three, and exhibits traditional Dadly behaviors such as being a little bit of a nerd (loremaster) but also one of the most reliable guys you know, adopting any child left in his presence for a sufficient amount of time (Aragorn), and telling his daughter’s aspiring bf that he won’t be good enough for her until he has a steady job (also Aragorn).

My dad irl, who I promise is a pretty typical Dad, was positively delighted when he discovered casual-use head-mounted flashlights about a decade ago, and has self-satisfiedly worn them on every camping trip and nighttime dog walk ever since.

CONCLUSION: Elrond regularly wears glowing, star-evocative gems on his brow, especially while traveling or at fancy evening parties, and he looks great and it make people respectfully murmur Eärendilion (whether he likes it or not)… But really, it’s not a fashion statement or implicit political position or whatever; it’s because if he doesn’t have some sort of flashlight, he will trip on torchlit steps or walk into low-hanging tree branches in the dark. And it’s so much easier if it’s hands-free! (Especially when he’s spelunking for lost texts!)

His kids all go through a phase of thinking he’s mortifyingly dorky about this, then begrudgingly come to accept that it is really convenient to have a hands-free light for dark nights, caves, etc, and start wearing one themselves.

#lotr #lord of the rings #the silmarillion #elrond #elrond peredhel #elrond half elven #peredhil #theories #headcanon accepted

[babybat98]

A cursed thought just occured to me and I decided to make you all suffer to

So in Tolkien lore elves are immortal right? After a certain point they don't age and will just keep living, save for the intervention of accidents, illness/poison, or very pointy objects. This leads to a whole laundry list of questions on biology but there's one in particular I want to bite into today(pun much intended).

Teeth.

How do elf teeth work? Because the main issue with teeth over time is that they wear down with use. This is not as much of a problem in modern times, we are spoiled with a lot of very soft easy to chew food, but it's still a thing and historicaly you wore down your teeth alot over the course of your life. Things like smoking a pipe can carve a grove in your teeth where you hold the pipe stem.

And this means that if you're immortan and alive long enough, your teeth will wear down to nothing because elves do need to eat. But obviously Galadriel and Elrond aren't looking like grandmas who forgot their dentures, so elves must have something to solve this.

I therefor present my 3 running theories for how elves keep their teeth:

- The OP Teeth Of Steel Theory

Elf teeth are simply to strong to wear down. A bit boring if you ask me.

- The Elves Are Rodents Theory

Rodent front teeth grow continiously their entire life, it's realy cool. It's also why they're always chewing on things, because if they don't their teeth will grow so long it stops them from eating. This theory proposes elf teeth also just grow forever(this could lead to a extremely annoying habit of elves to grind their teeth to keep them down, but oh well).

- The Elves Are Sharks Theory

Sharks tackle the problem of teeth by simply?

Growing more teeth?

Like they just keep loosing teeth and growing new ones. For elves this could mean that when a tooth gets to worn it simply falls out and a new one grown in, like human milk teeth but their entire life.

This was all writen in about 10min while getting ready for bed, so please enjoy these lovely cursed thoughts while I escape to dreamland :)

@tathrin

#lotr #lotr theory #tolkien elves #solving the ever increasing issues of immortality lol #teeth #tw teeth

[overthinkinglotr]

I was watching LOTR with friends the other day and someone pointed out that a major reason film!Elrond is upset about Arwen being in love with Aragorn is because of Elrond's own broken relationship with Isildur.

In the films Isildur and Elrond are kind of set up as....a broken failed parallel to Aragorn and Arwen?

Arwen reassures Aragorn that "he is Isildur's heir, not Isildur himself," and "is not bound to his fate"-- but Elrond disagrees, confident that Aragorn will be just like Isildur.

Film!Elrond is so certain that trusting in mankind is a mistake that will only lead Arwen to misery because he once trusted in mankind, and the man he trusted ended up failing him. His ally from the line of Elendil ended up falling to the power of the Ring and dying; he believes Aragorn may do the same thing. He doesn't just want to save Arwen's life and keep his daughter by his side; he wants to prevent Arwen from experiencing the same betrayal/heartbreak he experienced. Film!Elrond is very stoic and unsentimental, but there are all these hints at Elrond and Isildur's past relationship throughout the series. Everyone likes to make the joke "why didn't Elrond just toss Isildur into the fire?" but to me the answer is, partially, because he cared about Isildur. They were allies who fought side-by-side. After describing what happened in Mount Doom all those years ago, Elrond tells Gandalf that "It should've ended that day, but evil was allowed to endure." And I think it's interesting that he goes into passive voice for a moment, instead of saying that Isildur specifically allowed to evil to endure--because he's also blaming himself for allowing evil to endure, blaming his own failure to be harsh with Isildur and take the Ring from him by force. He's regretting that he was merciful and didn't "just toss Isildur into the fire."

His complicated emotions about Isildur also appear again in the Two Towers. After insisting that Arwen needs to give up Aragorn as a lost cause and travel into the West, Elrond has a conversation with Galadriel where she guilt-trips him for abandoning Middle Earth/mankind. When she asks him "do we let them stand alone?" Elrond walks into the study, and spends a long moment looking at his mural of Isildur.

He then, in the film's canon, agrees to send military support to one of Isildur's descendants."I don't care about Isildur anymore, men are weak," Elrond says, standing in front of his elaborate mural of Isildur and his shrine dedicated to Isildur's sword.

And yes this is all, again, a drastic departure from his characterization in the book-- most of the Aragorn-Arwen-Elrond stuff in the films is a drastic departure from the book. The films radically alter their dynamics, including eliminating stuff like Elrond being Aragorn's adopted father and all the "their bloodlines are related" stuff and etc etc etc etc etc. But honestly, now that I see it, this interpretation makes the film!Elrond-Arwen dynamic engaging in a way I hadn't recognized before? In some ways it puts Isildur into the role that Elrond's mortal brother Elros played for him in the books, because Elros is cut from the films entirely. Isildur is the reason film!Elrond knows what it's like to have some kind of close relationship with a mortal and then watch them die. When Elrond angrily speaks about the folly of trusting men, or insists to Arwen that Aragorn "is not coming back" so she should just get over him, he's speaking from experience--he's projecting his own weird failed broken betrayal-ridden Thing with Isildur onto Arwen and Aragorn. And in this context, his hopeless monologue about how Arwen will regret staying by Aragorn's side also feels like it's partially from his own experience. "If Sauron is defeated, and Aragorn is made king, and all that you hope for comes true, you will still have to taste the bitterness of mortality." When he fought three thousand years ago Sauron was defeated, and Isildur did become King, and yet... TL;DR : Film!Elrond had a nasty kind-of breakup with a mortal man 3000 years ago and instead of dealing with it he decided "Men Are trash Weak" and began projecting all of his drama onto Arwen

#overthinkinglotr #lotr #XD #I like book!Elrond better in theory #but to understand elrond better id have to reread the s*lmarillion #sorry #no #X #also Im so glad the films cut all stuff about Aragorn/Arwen/Elrond being related #and all the Elrond being Aragorn's foster father stuff #I don't like it #hot take unpopular opinoin #alskdjfsdf #there are some things i wish the films hadn't cut but those aren't them #Youtube

[ragrfisk]

I low key love the scene in The Hobbit where Legolas calls Gimli a hideous creature because I like to imagine when he sees him in Fellowship he’s like

“Oh.”

“Oh no.”

“He’s 𝘩𝘰𝘵."

#the hobbit movies #lotr gimli #incorrect lotr quotes #lotr memes #lotr #legolas #fan theory #gimli son of gloin #gimli #legolas x gimli #lord of the rings #the hobbit #hobbit movies #my silly little posts #silly #sillyposting #hot dwarves #tolkien #oh no he's hot

[morgulien]

y’all, i doubt i’m the first person to come up with it, but i have a new Tolkien crack theory:

Tom Bombadil and Goldberry are in fact Beren and Luthien.

#yes i know there’s probably more evidence against it than for it #but who cares it’s fun #crack theory #lotr #silmarillion #the silmarillion #tolkien #jrr tolkien #j.r.r. tolkien #lord of the rings #silm #silmposting #middle earth #beren and luthien #beren erchamion #luthien tinuviel #beren #luthien #tom bombadil #goldberry #headcanon #crack headcanons

[rohirric-hunter]

A friend and I came up with a concept for a humorous LotR fanfic a while ago. It was called, “The Heavily Suppressed Adventures of Bungo Baggins and Belladonna Took.” Took its inspiration from the one line in the Hobbit that implies that Belladonna might have gone on adventures before she married Bungo, with a splash of inspiration from the idea that at one point Tolkien was considering a line about how vanishing with one’s intended was a bit of a courting ritual among Hobbits.

So Bungo means to propose to Belladonna, but on the very night when he plans to do it she gets recruited for an Adventure by Gandalf, and Bungo, who is either not especially good at recognizing when he ought to change his plans or never one to let little obstacles deter him, depending on how you look at it, also volunteers to go on the Adventure, thinking that he’ll just propose the next day. But the next day is not a great day for it, nor is the next, nor the one after, and so the story goes on. Belladonna is very into the adventure, which she is well-suited for and has been looking forward to her whole life, and Bungo. Loathes. every second of it. But he keeps on going for Belladonna, because he hasn’t yet had the perfect moment to propose to her, and he’s determined to do it, and she’s so excited to share this whole amazing adventure with him.

We never fleshed out the adventure specifically, beyond that it had something to do with dragon eggs in the Blue Mountains. Rather a lot of it was intended to reflect The Hobbit. Bungo had an engagement ring that he was carrying with him and kept very very secret for obvious reasons, and it was meant to be a sort of lighter parallel to the Ring and Bilbo’s behavior towards it. The actual engagement itself was meant to be over the top, ridiculous, hopelessly, sloppily romantic; Bungo would drop the ring and his desperate efforts to get it back would get him into trouble, which Belladonna would save him from, at which point she would discover the ring and ask if he’d meant to propose to him. Or maybe the ring itself would be lost and Bungo would worry that everything was ruined, but it would be dramatically revealed that Belladonna had also intended to propose to him when the adventure was over. We ping-ponged between the two and both have their merits.

Anyway, once the adventure was over, they would return to the Shire together, happily engaged, and live happily ever after to the end of their days. The real kicker was that all this was meant to be told in the frame story of Gandalf telling it to Bilbo on the trip to the Undying Lands; Bungo, unwilling to be known for an adventurer in the Shire, had sworn everyone involved to secrecy so long as they lived on Middle-earth, and Gandalf, who had been itching to tell Bilbo about it for decades, was reveling in the fact that he no longer lived on Middle-earth and was therefore not bound by the oath anymore. The whole thing was going to wrap up with Bilbo’s staunch insistence that he didn’t believe a word of it, to which Gandalf would respond that he was free not to, he supposed. Bilbo would then turn to Frodo and say, “Of course I believe it, Frodo, my boy. I was just hoping to get a turn out of old Gandalf! But of course he probably knows what I’m doing, after all. Well, that is a story! Don’t adventures ever have a start?”

#lotr #i would in theory love to write a fic but we all know im not going to

[velvet4510]

What if…

What if Maglor not only lived on in the shadows into the Fourth Age, but also pulled a Boo Radley one day, emerging from hiding to save Aragorn & Arwen’s children from a hostile Easterling when they disobeyed safety rules and went walking in dangerous territory…

And in the aftermath, he looked into the children’s faces, and then he took them home to Gondor and looked into their parents’ faces…

And then he refused all rewards and celebration, and returned to the shadows. For he’d already received his reward.

He’d seen his boys’ faces in all of theirs.

And that was enough.

#lotr #jrr tolkien #lotr books #lord of the rings #the silmarillion #lotr theories #lotr headcanons #maglor #elrond #elros #aragorn #arwen #aragorn and arwen #and perhaps this earned him a spot #on the last ship #many years later #gondor

[logicallyblind]

wait i’m going insane how did i not know frerin was only 48 when he fought at azanulbizar??? he was fourty eight he was just a baby i-

#like think about it #if we’re going off of the theory that dwarves come of age at 75 (forgive me if that’s wrong i’m basing this mostly on fanfic lore) like #he was a WEEUN #kíli was considered young on the quest and he was 77 #frerin was quite literally a tiny wee thing i can’t #i’m getting emotional about this #the hobbit #lotr #frerin durin #frerin #thorin oakenshield #bagginshield

[lifblogs]

@sindar-princeling, not sure if you would find this interesting, but seeing as we read about Tom the other day and he has another part to play in the story I thought it’d be relevant.

#The Lord of the Rings #The Fellowship of the Ring #Tom Bombadil #lotr theories

[torchwood-99]

Faramir: Can we talk in private?

Eomer: No!

Eowyn: Sure.

Eomer: It’s completely inappropriate for a single woman to entertain a man in private. If you insist on talking, you must do it in the throne room!

(Faramir and Eowyn go to her bower)

Eomer: All right, you may talk in her bower, but I want this door to remain open!

(Eowyn locks the door.)

Eomer: All right, just this once you may close the door. But keep in mind I’ll be right out here monitoring the situation! 

#Lotr #Lord of the Rings #Eomer #Faramir #Eowyn #incorrect quotes #source: Big Bang Theory

[tanoraqui]

Theory: It’s significant that of the three recorded Balrog slayings, two involved shoving them off a very high precipice and one was drowning them in a fountain. It’s not about just destroying their physical form—they’re strong Maiar; that’s not enough. I’m sure at least a dozen Elves successfully disembodied Balrogs throughout the First Age. But in order to keep them disembodied, as you wreck their physical form so much that they have to abandon it, you have to trap them in the demesne of a Vala—Manwë and Ulmo shown here—friendly to your cause and so willing to yoink that wayward Maia back to whatever corner of Mandos or maybe the Void that bad kids go.

#balrog #maiar #valar #theories #the silmarillion #lotr #fall of gondolin

[ntntpad-art]

Color theory practice for a class back in 2019

#lord of the rings #lotr #Archive #color theory #studies #my art