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ihasafandom · 9 days

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Carnage Re-Write Part 6

Part 6/?

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Awesome, so now we just have to re-arrange our plot list into some semblance of order, add anything missing and remove anything extraneous, and boom! We have a plot outline, organized into scenes.

Villains: mayhem Mulligan: shoot frances Villains: in prison/institute Cletus, Shriek: love you/getting moved to another institute convo

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Eddie & V: movies/games Eddie & Mulligan: "he wants to talk to you" call Venom: hunger (out of chocolate)

Mrs Chen's out too. Friends =/= food intro Settle on sushi (expensive, not satisfying, dead [non-nutritious]) and fries (doesn’t have any of the stuff V needs)

Eddie & Cletus: demands convo Venom: sensory seeking behaviour Eddie: hush V while trying to work

Eddie: be in a hurry V&Eddie: stop mugger Venom: hungry (rebuffed)

Eddie, Anne & Dan: Marriage Convo Eddie: drive recklessly Venom: save them

Eddie & V: jealousy convo Friends =/= food reinforcement Re: Dan

Villains: pine for eachother (jealousy/pining resonance)

Eddie & V: wakeup sequence (first movie parallel) Eddie: experience depression Chickens: intro Venom: experience sensory deprivation, hunger; exhibit sensory-seeking behaviour

V: try to do something nice for Eddie (backfires) Eddie & Venom: breakfast scene Eddie: experience sensory overload

Eddie: be in a hurry, drive recklessly

Cletus: recount backstory Venom: like the sound of the mayhem Cletus: wants message delivered to Frances Venom: likens to wanting to fight for Anne

Venom: hunger (forbidden to leave apartment) Venom: Sensory seeking behaviour Venom: violate boundaries (go for a joyride)

Eddie: experience violated boundaries and consequences for V's actions (callback to Anne in 1st movie) Eddie & Venom: breakup fight

Venom: breakup aftermath, bad decision Venom: party hard Venom: "coming out" and being persecuted euphemisms Venom: do party drugs Venom: experience sensory overload

Venom: break down and discuss Eddie & bad hosts with drunk girls in bathroom while hiding in bathroom from overload Venom: miss Eddie for practical reasons Partygoers: suggest finding a better partner

Venom: find a better host

Eddie: breakup aftermath, bad decision Eddie: do productive writing Chickens: have needs

Eddie: head to Mrs Chen's for chicken advice Eddie: see someone in trouble along the way, get roughed up trying to help someone

Eddie & Mrs Chen: do business Mrs Chen: chickens=venom re:needs

Venom: break Cletus out

Mulligan: call Eddie re: breakout

Eddie: try to do Venom-style investigation without Venom Eddie: miss V for practical reasons Eddie: get arrested for B&E

Eddie: call on a friend

Anne: girlboss, practice law Eddie: get relationship advice Anne: getting Eddie out will take time

Eddie: experience consequences Eddie: experience sensory deprivation Eddie: sensory seeking behaviour Eddie: miss Venom for emotional reasons

Cletus & Venom: joyride Cletus: rescue Frances & other inmates

Villains: party hard, cause mayhem Cletus: experience minor setback Cletus & Carnage: sensory seeking behaviour Cletus: eats a "friend" Venom: Friends=/=Food Venom & Cletus: breakup fight Venom: experience violated boundaries Carnage: born

Venom: experience consequences Venom: get stranded with dying host Venom: call on a friend

Carnage & Cletus: introductions, insta-bond 100% match Frances: Jealous Cletus: proposes to Frances (carnage can come too) Villains: plan wedding guests

Dan: be helpful and unflappable Venom: explain panic & call for help Dan: patch someone up (temp host) Venom: miss Eddie for emotional reasons Venom: get relationship advice Dan: Liken Eddie to chickens re: needs Dan: confirm that he and Anne will still be their friends, Eddie or no Venom: forgive Dan & let go of Anne

Villains: burst into police station Carnage: gets hit by Scream's sonics Carnage: experience sensory overload Cletus: mediate Carnage & Shriek Mulligan: get kidnapped Carnage: smells Eddie Villains: 2 for 1, kidnap Eddie too Leave Anne alive, tell her to get word to V

Dan gets call from Anne

Dan & Venom: meet Anne and Mrs Chen at Church Anne is better host: She-venom She-Venom downs chocolate & chicken & tots from Mrs Chen

She-Venom: enter church Villains: have hostages Carnage: explain motivation re: venom Frances: explain motivation re: mulligan Cletus: explain motivation re: Eddie

Carnage, Shriek, Cletus: start marriage

She-Venom: Objects Venom: wishes to bond with Eddie instead of Anne for this wedding

Villains: bicker Cletus, Shriek, and Carnage: domestic violence Cletus: Protest Frances: realization Carnage: violate boundaries Cletus: experience violated boundaries

Venom & Eddie: notice the villains are unsynched Eddie & Venom: Needs/wants talk while fighting villains Eddie & Venom: Get the upper hand

Villain: Grab a hostage Eddie & Venom: Lose the upper hand

Shriek: turn the tables on Carnage Carnage: experience sensory overload Shriek: fight Carnage for Cletus Villains: Breakup fight

Priest: the villains are like chickens Everyone:??? Priest: They will peck their own flockmates to death at the hint of blood Everyone: ???? Priest: I grew up on a farm

Venom & Eddie: Win fight

Cletus: complain to Eddie that he just wanted to be his friend Venom: Friends =/= food payoff "Friends are not food. … You, however" Cletus: Get eaten

Fight Wrap-Up Eddie & Venom: escape before cops get there Mulligan: buy them some time

Credits Roll

Mid-Credits Scene:

Eddie & Venom unpacking heavy-duty stim toys while discussing their plan to go on a vacation and have some "them" time to figure things out Venom: mention that they have some time now foodwise, since they glutted while in cletus Eddie: verbally accept that he's going to have to compromise some on the foood thing. Venom: verbally accept that Eddie needs quiet time sometimes, and mention some options for what it could do/who it could bond with in the meantime (Or this could be like a list of options on a whiteboard in the bg.)

End--credits scene:

Spider-man sees Venom break Cletus out of prison on cameras, then Eddie escaping from the Church aftermath

End Credits

Heads up: I'm probably going to stop with the outline, but if anyone wants to take it and make an actual fic, or a modified version of the movie script, or anything like that, be my guest! I'd love to see it, I just have too many wips already to actually get into the fic part. :)

Any other suggestions on things to change in this outline?

Regardless, I have at least one more post in this series: my initial re-write burst from right after I woke up, mentioned at the start of this all. I haven't looked at it since starting to write all this up, so we get to see what I've improved on or forgotten about since then.

Hopefully I will be finished @symbruary by May

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damndeacon · 1 year

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Screaming Crying at this cut scene from Venom 1 Tom Hardy just posted

Also guys, Venom 3 is officially in preproduction ! :D

#venom #Tom hardy #venom movie #venom 3 #eddie brock #venom let there be carnage #venom ltbc #venom 1 #symbrock #venom 2 #venom symbiote #veddie

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changelingspawn · 9 months

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What is the gayest moment in Venom ( like.... in general with the comics and also movies )

OMG that is really complex to answer, but I will try my darndest

My go-to answer is automatically Marvel Presents #5's final panel, where we essentially have a fade-to-black scene of Eddie inviting Venom too.... help him.

But we also have the iconic deleted scene from Venom 2: Let There Be Carnage, where Venom confesses his love for Eddie

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And we haven't even mentioned the general language that is used in the comics with Eddie referring to Venom as Love, My Darling, and comparing their bond to marriage. They also state that "this is a love story" at the beginning of Venom #150

Long story short, its hard to pick just one answer because they are gay all. the. fucking. time.

#venom #symbrock #eddie brock #eddie x venom #venom comics #venom x eddie #venom movies #venom 2 let there be carnage #venom 2 ltbc #mcu #marvel #marvel comics

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q-u-a-rantine-high-school · 8 months

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Come get y'all juice

#symbrock #veddie #venom #venom memes #venom ltbc #let there be carnage #venom comics #marvel comics #marvel memes #eddie brock #carlton drake #cletus kasady #carnage #carnage symbiote #riot symbiote #anne weying #tel-kar venom #venom first host

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bridoesotherjunk · 1 year

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Venom: Eddie how do you feel about kids?

Eddie: Like human kids or your kind of kids?

Venom: *nervous and very possibly pregnant* uuuuuuummmmmmmmm......

#Venom #Trying to broach the subject gently #Symbrock #Veddie #Babies #venom symbiote #Marvel #Sony #Eddie Brock #Lol #Love #Venom loves Eddie and wants the big family #Eddie is nervous after Carnage #venom let there be carnage #Venom ltbc #Tom Hardy venom

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symbiotic-slime · 1 year

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this clip single-handedly cured my mental illness

#symbrock #i’m losing my shit #I can’t believe this is real #eddie brock #venom #veddie #venom movie #venom symbiote #eddie x venom #venom let there be carnage #venom movies #venom ltbc

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incorrect-random-fandom · 2 years

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Venom: You use emoji’s like a straight person.

Eddie: That’s literally the worst thing anyone has ever said about me.

#source: tumblr #venom #venom movie #venom comics #venom 2 #venom symbiote #incorrect venom quotes #venom ltbc #eddie x venom #venom x eddie #eddie brock #symbrock #veddie #marvel cinematic universe #marvel comics #incorrect marvel quotes #marvel

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mikimeiko · 10 months

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Venom: Let There Be Carnage (Andy Serkis, 2021)

#venom: let there be carnage #venom let there be carnage #venomedit #venom ltbc #ok so this one was a lot more cohesive as a film #and in general i think a better film?#but still kinda eh #sadly #also i think it's interesting that it has a different aspect ratio from the first one #(i never notice while watching it's making the gifs that brings it to my attention XD)#films i watched in 2023 #i made this #i just want a tag for the things i personally put out into the world

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samd1o1 · 10 months

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Do They Look Bonita?

They're going on a date.

(Eddie is there too dw).

Spot dress obviously inspired by his spots, but for Venom this Barbie dress reminded me of his glow sticks from LTBC.

They sit on my desk and watch me rage at League of Legends.

BONUS: These hats were obviously too big for them so Pavitr and Spot Funkos can have them.

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ihasafandom · 2 months

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Carnage Rewrite Part 3

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Next are the major and side characters. Obviously we have Dan and Anne and Mrs Chen, but we’ve also got the partygoers, the police (specifically Mulligan), the Ravencroft Institute people, various inmates at both the prison and the institute.

My main desires going in to watch Carnage were that Anne and Dan remained safe and together and in character, with no jealousy/breakup plots related to their relationship. I got Some of those, but let’s see if we can knock it out of the park.

Dan: we’re gonna drop the jealousy and freaking out plot cause it sucks. Instead Dan will remain Dan the Man from the first movie. Open, trusting, kind, intelligent, competent, focused, caring, solutions-motivated, calm, and immune to romcom plots. He wants: to do right by Anne, to marry Anne, to get to know Eddie and check up on his health, for everyone to be safe, and to do his job. If we want to give him character flaws, make him somewhat clueless/naive/out of his depth for some subtle social and/or romantic subtexts and morally grey/black situations/people, and entirely lacking in street smarts. Dude’s upper class and maybe we’ll throw some autism at the wall cause it’ll stick.

Anne: remains Anne from the first movie. Focused, competent, intelligent, decisive, forward-thinking. She wants: for her relationship with Dan to work, to marry Dan, for Eddie to be okay, to rebuild a stable friendship with Eddie, to have a normal life, to do her job, for the danger to be dealt with and no longer threatening her and hers. She has a grudge agains Eddie for going behind her back, hurting her, and keeping things from her from the first movie that was never resolved and was instead reinforced by him not telling her that the symbiote was still alive at the end. She’s trying to let him back into her life but he’s still keeping secrets from her. The whole jailbreak scene in the movie was stupid, too. It outed Eddie as Venom and Anne as an accomplice and failed to use her lawyer smarts as anything but an entry device. Pathetic, when they could have broken IN and kidnapped him instead.

We can then have the following arcs: Dan builds a solid friendship with Eddie. Dan gets the confidence to propose. Anne says yes to Dan. They both provide specialized help that Eddie and Venom need. Anne and Eddie Talk and they come to an understanding about honesty and respect. Eddie agrees to rely on Anne and Dan for friendship, emotional support, logistics, and backup. Venom learns the Power of Friendship and levels it up with Anne and Dan.

So let’s start the movie a bit earlier than we do in canon and have the opening scene instead be Dan having a meal with Eddie because Eddie is important to Anne and Dan admired his moral crusades and journalistic pieces, so he’s trying to get to know him. Maybe he’s nervous and wants to propose to Anne, but isn’t sure he’s ready or if she’ll say yes.

Eddie can then be awkward as heck and sad and jealous and need to leave before Venom eats Dan. Itgives us an opportunity for the whole “get Anne back for ourselves” argument without letting Eddie blow up at Anne and ignore her agency and friendship, instead fighting against his own hurt and desires to say “no” to Venom and reluctantly declare that Dan is their friend and they don’t eat friends (or that Anne is their friend and Dan is HER friend, depending) This will tie into our Themes, and let us tie the chickens into said themes later.

Mrs Chen: I honestly don’t know what do do with Mrs Chen yet. She’s obviously going to have a spot in this movie, as she is somewhat of a fan favourite and a big part of Venom’s support system, both because she is clearly the major chocolate contributor and because she’s one of the few people that knows that it exists so that it can actually come out and interact. Other than that I’m not sure what kind of arc and influence she should have here. In canon she got a support role as the person that V would turn to in a crisis after the party, and she could hold that function here too, but she needs something of her own to add. Hit me in the comments with some ideas.

Sonny and Cher: The chickens are kind of just plopped into the movie withought much thought or follow-through. They KIND of touch on the key themes of nutrition, enrichment, and morality if you squint real hard, but we really need to double-down on that and pepper in references throughout the movie to really stick the landing. And obviously they don’t have their own arc in the movie, when they really could have. So, their arc: the chickens need enrichment, the chickens do not provide the correct type of food, the chickens are a metaphor for Venom gaining understanding of community and morality (if we get Disney in here we can have V watch a certain movie and have a “fish are friends not food” reference) and we can foreshadow Carnage by having one of the eggs hatching (one of the chickens is secretly male I guess; this could also be pulled on for hints at Symbrock if desired)

The partygoers: Venom at the party was fun, but it was kind of flat and all over the place. It was theme-adjacent, but again it just didn’t land. What we need the partygoers to be is a tie into community, enrichment, and communication. They also accept Venom far too readily, we never get any kind of “what the heck is that thing” scene, which deprives us of opportunities for V to either lie about it to try to keep secret or reveal itself to be fully accepted. He complains about Eddie and declared he’s coming out of the closet, but it’s clear that the audience does not really understand what that means (and that the symbiote has no clue what that phrase would mean to THEM) and we do not focus in enough on any of the partygoers for them to really connect and be individual characters themselves. More importantly, this is such a missed opportinuty for learning and growth re: Venom and Eddie’s relationship. We don’t see any reason why Venom couldn’t just stay with one of the partygoers, or why it actually should/wants to be with Eddie, other than a bit of whining about missing him. And we don’t get anything constructive that it could bring to the table when it reunites with him. So to have the scene be important to their journey we need to build those things in.

The temporary hosts: These were nothing people. There was no comparison/contrast to Eddie, there was no information on what makes a good or bad host in general or for V specifically, we get no reason for why sometimes a new host is in bad shape and sometimes it’s fine (the new guy before Mrs Chen v Mrs Chen herself). This sucks, so we’ve definitely got to build on that more.

The police/detectives: I don’t remember them at all. If they’re gonna be in this movie as more than mooks then they need something to them I suppose, but like with Mrs Chen I got nothing. Thoughts?

The other inmates (asylum or prison): Now here we have an interesting opportunity to compare/contrast how Eddie & V treat their friend group and how Cletus & Carnage do. This will tie into our community and morality themes, make the parallels between the two clearer, give us a chance for some backstabbing or lack of support as a consequence of ill treatment, and allow Venom to make some of his reasons for liking Eddie and being on the antihero side clear. Friends are Not Food.

The lead psych people in Scream’s asylum: These people sucked? Was there a reason that her treatment and all were so terrible? Maybe it’s building up for something in the future, but dang. Does NOT help with the huge amount of ableist and anti-mental-healthcare biases in fiction and irl. Can we do something with that? It could easily end up a parallel to Venom’s own situation, being cooped up and lacking enrichment and all, if we kept at least some of the mistreatment. But it could also have been a decently GOOD situation for her that Cletus takes her out of, and then she and the other inmates could bring the concept of enrichment to the table for Venom to describe what it’s lacking. Unsure which would be more compelling, what do you guys think?

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damndeacon · 1 year

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This WILL be the

SEXIEST

GAYEST

VENOM MOVIE

#Kelly basically INVENTED movie symbrock #and with her work on 50 shades controlling this movie will let our minds blow up #venom #venom 3 #venom movie #symbrock #Eddie Brock #venom symbiote #veddie #venom x Eddie #venom ltbc #venom let there be carnage

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hurtyknees · 10 months

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Venom could be watched as a metaphor for autism. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk

#venom #symbrock #veddie #eddie brock #venom ltbc #venom let there be carnage

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eyeslungspancreas · 1 year

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found this absolute gem on Twitter today and thought I'd share it with the symbrock community <3

#symbrock #eddie brock #venom #venom ltbc #veddie #losers in love #eddie has this hanging up in the apartment i just know

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bridoesotherjunk · 1 year

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remember how Venom LTBC ended with Eddie and Venom sitting on a beach together, watching the sunset while Venom stares at Eddie lovingly?

me too

#venom ltbc #venom #symbrock #venom let there be carnage spoilers #let there be carnage #veddie #venom let there be carnage #they're in love #the movie ended like the cheesiest romcom of your life #marvel #gay #sony #so glad we got this movie lmao

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symbiotic-slime · 2 years

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venom + text posts

#symbrock #venom comics #venom #eddie brock #veddie #eddie x venom #venom movie #venom let there be carnage #venom ltbc #text post

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tiger-in-the-flightdeck · 1 year

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Every time, I’m absolutely certain that the rave scene can’t be as gay as I remember, but then I watch it and it turns out that actually, it’s even gayer.

#venom #symbrock #venom ltbc #let there be carnage

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